I see, I'm a big evil company because I make software. Show me these billions in tax breaks, you know, the ones small devs like me MUST be getting, as you claim this justifies taking our work for free.
For me the big story is the one-sided nature of this treaty. We regularly extradite suspects to the USA, yet the USA refuses to do the same for people living in the USA wanted for crimes in the UK. That's just insane, and our government are spineless scum for agreeing to it.
people don't ride horses, because something better cam along (the car). People use more software, more often now, and place a greater reliance on it than at any point ever in human history.
So the comparison isn't exactly right is it?
How do you expect to get high quality software in future? it will be made as a side project by people making hardware? Be serious.
then don't buy it. if the price is too high, then they have priced it out of your range. deal with it.
Movie theatres set different prices during the day. Loyal customers get given discount coupons by many companies. Some places let the unemployed, or retired, or disabled people in cheaper or even free. Some bars let women drink for free, some events let people in free in fancy dress, some places give discounts to members of the armed forces.
NOT EVERYONE GETS OFFERED THE SAME PRICE.
There is no major news here. Sorry if that deflates the slashdot readers attempts to justify theft though, as 99% of stories on here attempt to do.
wow, you just don't understand simple concepts do you. Like capitalism and communism. you advocate people being free to profit from the works of others with zero compensation (by profit, I mean enjoy their work). that is called COMMUNISM You seem to think that someone who creates something has no right to set the price he sells it at. Those rights are part of the system we call CAPITALISM
You seem to have confused the two, a common mistake by anti-DRM, pro-communist kids on here.
It always amazes me how ill-educated and silly the arguments of the children in 'the pirate party' are. And yes, regardless of your physical age, you are thinking like a child, doubtless one still living off dads allowance, or expecting to live off other peoples efforts once the allowance stops.
One day, you will grow up and realise how juvenile and silly the 'pirate party' was. Its like joining the 'free money' party.
do you work for yourself? or someone else? If someone else, do you approve of EVERYTHING they do? You know where they invest their pension funds? you know which companies they do business with and what those companies invest it? do you know where your companies supplies come from, and what the ethical stances of those companies are?
You can't live like that. If you did, suddenly you can't buy bread from the bakers because the bakers website logo was done by a guy who bought sneakers from a company who invests their pension fund in a car company that donates to the republican party...
Agreed. And the way the pro-piracy camps keep calling it 'file-sharing' rather than piracy or copyright infringement is completely reasonable. And humorous attempts to re-spell MPAA are entirely reasonable and an intelligent contribution to the debate.
maybe they will stop saying DRM when 6 year olds on digg stop posting "Fuck the RIAA!!!!!" in every single story.
just curious... how do you deal with this 'utter insult'. Do you pirate the music, or not listen to it at all?
And are you utterly insulted by security guards, cameras and security tags in clothes stores? Or are they ok? How about the unique identifier that they screw to the front and back of every car to assist the authorities in prosecuting you if you break the law. are they ok? or does your car have no plates?
what about a defence lawyer who hates his client guts? I guess in your world he should not try very hard and hope the guy gets sentenced? Sometimes your job is to promote what someone else believes. I think its amazing that you can't get your head around that. Did marketing people beat you up as a kid?
agreed. Also, most people I know who go to the movies enjoy what they see. Its only on digg and slashdot you get this "all movies suck!!!111" attitude. I think the answer is pretty simple:
1) movies aren't made for people like that, simply because those people pirate them. Why make films for people who wont buy them
2) People naturally value free stuff below paid stuff. if watching a movie cost you nothing, you have nothing invested in it, and you are much more easily bored or distracted or cynical. If you don't think that people don't appreciate expensive stuff more than identical cheap stuff, you've never run a business. Its subconscious, and universal.
Wow. firstly, your employer pays you for the work you do. Unless you work holding a sign all day, it goes beyond just 'your time'.
Also, has it ever occured to you that the marketing guys might be wrong? or have different tastes? believe it or not, ad men and marketers make a living selling EVERYTHING. If company A hires them to say buy X, then they promote that over Y. If hired to sell Y...
The fact that the 'marketing' men might not believe in it doesn't mean the actors, director, producer don't, as it sure doesn't mean the marketing man is right. If the guys who were behind marketing star wars (fox) thought it sucked (as they did), did that make the film worse?
Calling people thieves for putting aside their personal tastes and doing a good job promoting someone else's product is just juvenile. I guess now the slashdot hive mind considers piracy to be a human right and not theft, you are keen to assign the word to some bullshit other meaning?
in what way is it difficult to pronounce nintendo? It's said exactly the way it is written. Not only is their name hard to remember, its pronounced the same as a totally different word. Fail Fail.
these guys fell at the first fence. They have to include an explanation of how to pronounce their product name. That's such a basic mistake it's laughable. If you want to build a global brand, starting with a name people can't remember or pronounce will not help.
I'm sure it makes you feel all erect to think that my games don't sell, because you disagree with my views on IP, but tough shit dude, they sell pretty well.
You have no idea how much money I make from my business, but feel free to rant and throw insults at me if it makes you deal with puberty kid.
How much do you pay for cellphones, mobile broadband, home broadband, computers, etc vs hollywood trash?
sorry to burst your bubble, but outside the slashdot "information is free!!!!1111" mentality, people actually DO buy DVDs and software and games and music, and don't upgrade their hardware each year.
I love the way slashdottters love to rant about all music and movies being 'trash' whilst painstakingly adding it all to their bit-torrent queue. This must be why the top 100 lists at p2p sites are always linux distros and indie bands
its not exactly a major chunk of my marketing budget to post those 20 odd characters is it? But whats my ad budget for those sites? Zero What sites are specifically excluded from advertising campaigns? All the anti-copyright, pro-filesharing ones. Those people aren't customers, just bandwidth leechers. In commercial terms, irrelevant, and unwanted.
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who Am I? someone with the fucking balls to post non anonymously. unlike abusive twats such as yourself.
grow up.
I see, I'm a big evil company because I make software. Show me these billions in tax breaks, you know, the ones small devs like me MUST be getting, as you claim this justifies taking our work for free.
grow some fucking braincells.
For me the big story is the one-sided nature of this treaty. We regularly extradite suspects to the USA, yet the USA refuses to do the same for people living in the USA wanted for crimes in the UK.
That's just insane, and our government are spineless scum for agreeing to it.
christ talk about everyone MISSING THE POINT.
The software develeopers need to be paid. you understand so far? they need food right. and here is the AMAZING FACT:
SOME PEOPLE BUY THE STUFF.
if they didn't, those software devs wouldn't be making it.
understand now?
the self-righteous pirates just leech off of those people.
i stopped reading your offensive drivel at the first line. go play in the road with the other children your (mental) age dumbass.
people don't ride horses, because something better cam along (the car).
People use more software, more often now, and place a greater reliance on it than at any point ever in human history.
So the comparison isn't exactly right is it?
How do you expect to get high quality software in future? it will be made as a side project by people making hardware? Be serious.
then don't buy it. if the price is too high, then they have priced it out of your range. deal with it.
Movie theatres set different prices during the day. Loyal customers get given discount coupons by many companies. Some places let the unemployed, or retired, or disabled people in cheaper or even free. Some bars let women drink for free, some events let people in free in fancy dress, some places give discounts to members of the armed forces.
NOT EVERYONE GETS OFFERED THE SAME PRICE.
There is no major news here. Sorry if that deflates the slashdot readers attempts to justify theft though, as 99% of stories on here attempt to do.
lol what drivel.
you are from the group who tries to rename it 'file sharing' to make it sound like you are sharing your lunch, and keep saying 'sharing is caring'.
yeah, its caring when you share someone else's work, but not your own.
try again, preferably with some brain cells.
you realise all the stuff on there is only made because they rely on honest people buying copies right?
You might think its cool to just leech off of honest people, but some of us would have a real problem with that.
or did you think pixies from outer space made all the software?
anyone who thinks he is born with a right to enjoy the fruits of other peoples labour whilst contributing fuck-all himself, is either
a) a communist
b) an anarchist
or
c) an idiot.
Choose one.
wow, you just don't understand simple concepts do you. Like capitalism and communism.
you advocate people being free to profit from the works of others with zero compensation (by profit, I mean enjoy their work).
that is called
COMMUNISM
You seem to think that someone who creates something has no right to set the price he sells it at. Those rights are part of the system we call
CAPITALISM
You seem to have confused the two, a common mistake by anti-DRM, pro-communist kids on here.
It always amazes me how ill-educated and silly the arguments of the children in 'the pirate party' are.
And yes, regardless of your physical age, you are thinking like a child, doubtless one still living off dads allowance, or expecting to live off other peoples efforts once the allowance stops.
One day, you will grow up and realise how juvenile and silly the 'pirate party' was. Its like joining the 'free money' party.
do you work for yourself? or someone else? If someone else, do you approve of EVERYTHING they do?
You know where they invest their pension funds? you know which companies they do business with and what those companies invest it? do you know where your companies supplies come from, and what the ethical stances of those companies are?
You can't live like that. If you did, suddenly you can't buy bread from the bakers because the bakers website logo was done by a guy who bought sneakers from a company who invests their pension fund in a car company that donates to the republican party...
Agreed. And the way the pro-piracy camps keep calling it 'file-sharing' rather than piracy or copyright infringement is completely reasonable.
And humorous attempts to re-spell MPAA are entirely reasonable and an intelligent contribution to the debate.
maybe they will stop saying DRM when 6 year olds on digg stop posting "Fuck the RIAA!!!!!" in every single story.
just curious... how do you deal with this 'utter insult'. Do you pirate the music, or not listen to it at all?
And are you utterly insulted by security guards, cameras and security tags in clothes stores? Or are they ok?
How about the unique identifier that they screw to the front and back of every car to assist the authorities in prosecuting you if you break the law. are they ok? or does your car have no plates?
it means taking someone else's work for free, against the desires and will of that person.
At least it does to anyone who doesn't want to wiggle out of admitting what he is doing is leeching, freeloading or just plain wrong.
1) the MPAA and RIAA do no represent software or games developers, so the ideas useless
2) Amazingly not all internet users pirate stuff and will not want to pay to subsidise people who do.
Why don't you just take the money you would have spent on this and *gasp* buy the music legitimately?
what about a defence lawyer who hates his client guts? I guess in your world he should not try very hard and hope the guy gets sentenced?
Sometimes your job is to promote what someone else believes. I think its amazing that you can't get your head around that. Did marketing people beat you up as a kid?
agreed. Also, most people I know who go to the movies enjoy what they see. Its only on digg and slashdot you get this "all movies suck!!!111" attitude. I think the answer is pretty simple:
1) movies aren't made for people like that, simply because those people pirate them. Why make films for people who wont buy them
2) People naturally value free stuff below paid stuff. if watching a movie cost you nothing, you have nothing invested in it, and you are much more easily bored or distracted or cynical. If you don't think that people don't appreciate expensive stuff more than identical cheap stuff, you've never run a business. Its subconscious, and universal.
Wow. firstly, your employer pays you for the work you do. Unless you work holding a sign all day, it goes beyond just 'your time'.
Also, has it ever occured to you that the marketing guys might be wrong? or have different tastes? believe it or not, ad men and marketers make a living selling EVERYTHING. If company A hires them to say buy X, then they promote that over Y. If hired to sell Y...
The fact that the 'marketing' men might not believe in it doesn't mean the actors, director, producer don't, as it sure doesn't mean the marketing man is right. If the guys who were behind marketing star wars (fox) thought it sucked (as they did), did that make the film worse?
Calling people thieves for putting aside their personal tastes and doing a good job promoting someone else's product is just juvenile. I guess now the slashdot hive mind considers piracy to be a human right and not theft, you are keen to assign the word to some bullshit other meaning?
in what way is it difficult to pronounce nintendo? It's said exactly the way it is written.
Not only is their name hard to remember, its pronounced the same as a totally different word.
Fail
Fail.
I suspect they want their site to be used by people other than slashdot users. Just a thought.
these guys fell at the first fence. They have to include an explanation of how to pronounce their product name.
That's such a basic mistake it's laughable. If you want to build a global brand, starting with a name people can't remember or pronounce will not help.
I'm sure it makes you feel all erect to think that my games don't sell, because you disagree with my views on IP, but tough shit dude, they sell pretty well.
You have no idea how much money I make from my business, but feel free to rant and throw insults at me if it makes you deal with puberty kid.
Nope, you are bull.
How much do you pay for cellphones, mobile broadband, home broadband, computers, etc vs hollywood trash?
sorry to burst your bubble, but outside the slashdot "information is free!!!!1111" mentality, people actually DO buy DVDs and software and games and music, and don't upgrade their hardware each year.
I love the way slashdottters love to rant about all music and movies being 'trash' whilst painstakingly adding it all to their bit-torrent queue. This must be why the top 100 lists at p2p sites are always linux distros and indie bands
its not exactly a major chunk of my marketing budget to post those 20 odd characters is it?
But whats my ad budget for those sites?
Zero
What sites are specifically excluded from advertising campaigns?
All the anti-copyright, pro-filesharing ones.
Those people aren't customers, just bandwidth leechers. In commercial terms, irrelevant, and unwanted.