I did a degree in economics at LSE, don't try and patronise me with wikipedia links. I understand what was in the post. It's still a total failure to understand my point. I give up.
you have not understood my point. I don't give a fuck how much $1,000 is worth TO ME. I care about what its worth to SOMEONE ELSE.
That was entirely the point I was making, the complete opposite of what you are assuming.
You don't 'forget' how much $1,000 is worth to ordinary people just because you become rich. Not unless you are born a billionaire and never meet anyone who isn't one.
Even if I was Bill gates, I would NEVER just throw $1000 away on something silly. Because I know the opportunity cost of that is $1,000 donated to some charity. That probably saves 20 kids eyesight in Africa for fucks sake.
You have to be pretty amazingly selfish or stupid to throw that kind of cash away, no matter how much you have. It's just an insult to those living on a pittance.
she's been blatantly downloading copyrighted music and probably warez, and no surprise, some of the dodgy sites she visited infected her machine with malware. So she is ripping artists off, and probably part of a botnet that sends me spam.
Explain again why I give a damn about this person? (unless of course I am a lawyer that wants to make money defending people like her...)
what if the second doctor tells you his investigations will take another year, but the first guy said you have 6 months to live? Still not tempted by the pills?
Not surprisingly I agree 100%. If the idea is really that good, you could make a lot of money selling it direct yourself. If it's not, then the chances of anyone else doing anything with it were always pretty slim.
The idea is 100% yours, why use it to make *other people* rich?
there is much we don't know about cancer and aids, but if doctors suspect you have either, and suspect they have some drugs that might stop it, do you tell them "thanks but no thanks"?
You DO realise that hundreds of thousands of voters WORK in the entertainment industry and quite sensibly will vote to enforce copyright laws right?
I see slashdot is still foaming at the mouth to defend this woman who blatantly and obviously copied music without paying for it. Nobody even pretends she is innocent, yet somehow she has become a hero for taking other peoples work for free...
you are talking about something that works in all weathers, times of day and lighting conditions, spotting all different styles of plates at different angles, with reflections, dirt etc, differentiating between plates and bumper stickers or other signs and lettering.
Having a gadget that passes a test in the lab is a different kettle of fish to one that works out in the real world.
what about speeding? you cool with that too? even dangerous speeding outside a school. still cool? what about when your kid gets smeared over the tarmac? still cool? Or would you be first in line to argue why the hell hadn't someone caught this speeding lunatic before he did this?
Personally I object paying more in car insurance to cover the damage done by irresponsible jerks without insurance. Fine the bastards.
The thing is this technology is out there, its very efficient and useful, and can help solve crimes. And you want to somehow 'undo' it's invention?
Good luck with that. The people on here who would like to pretend such surveillance tech didn't happen, and want to prevent it being used are the exact same people who tell the media companies that P2P is a tech that cannot be un-invented, and that people should stop trying to prevent it's use...
I we prevent use of a tech because it *could* be misused, surely we block all P2P tech and all encryption yes? You can't have it both ways.
oh joy. another idiot suggesting copyright should be dumped. Assuming for a minute you are from the USA a technologically advanced country whom each year shifts its balance of economics production more and more away from physical (thanks china!) towards IP, how exactly do you think the US economy will be once people like you have enforced a value of zero on all IP? Nothing would please India, China and Africa more than the west being stupid enough to dump copyright. Think it through for once.
now explain why you pirate movies and software too...
Or are you privy to every deal ever sigend between a software dev and a publisher and an actor and a movie studio, and always check against that list of 'acceptable' deals when you decide whether or not to torrent stuff?
you've been modded as flamebait which is 100% predictable on slashdot. People here know its totally out-of-order to take everyone else's work for free, but they will type reams of pseudo-intellectual bullshit on slashdot to try and justify it. They also HATE it when they are reminded how retarded the anti-copyright position is, so try to mod down pro-copyright posters so they don't get seen. Sad isn't it?
I see. I pay corporation tax, based on accounts I provide. Next year I'll lie, and not pay a penny. I'm sure you don't mind making up my shortfall. Meanwhile, I'll be in the pub celebrating. Cheers mate.
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If you get your opinions from the anti-copyright maniac NYCL and you sue the phrase MAFIAA without irony, you seriously need to get some fucking perspective.
When its YOUR job that's on the line, I bet you don't dismiss it as 'bleating'.
By the way, the fortunes behind WalMart and Tescos make coldplay look like peasants. maybe you should shoplift a bit next time, in order to 'put things right'? Or is it only righteous theft if you think you can get away with it?
yes I think you have, although you missed out the more brain dead arnarcho-communist-teenage angst ones...
"Information wants to be free!!!111" "the marginal cost of production is zero, therefore I can have it for free!!!" "I'm stikc1ng it to the m4n!" "Musicians are all billionaires" "The artists don't get the money anyway" "Its no different to listening to the radio" "its just like using the library!!!11" "Everyone does it! "stopping copyright infringement is censorship"
Sad times, that such bullshit is rattled out as justification for taking other peoples work for free.
No it accomplishes a lot. It decimates USAs international tourism. Nobody I know has flown to holiday in the USA since 9/11. Your security bullshit makes the trip unenjoyable. Meanwhile Canadian hotel companies are doing well.
In economic terms, auctions are more efficient. Auctions ensure that people pay the value to them of the product, and that the seller gets the correct price from the market.
If I price a good at $10, and nobody wants to buy it, I sell none, nobody enjoys the product, and I am none the wiser as to the value of the product, other than I know its under $10 (or it may be due to their being zero demand). An auction makes the *real* value and price of the product immediately apparent to both parties, and allows it to vary over time to capture markets that otherwise would not be satisfied. Rather than suffering from understock or overstock, the price automatically adjusts so that all products get sold, and every slice of the market gets access to the product.
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I did a degree in economics at LSE, don't try and patronise me with wikipedia links. I understand what was in the post. It's still a total failure to understand my point.
I give up.
Since when do you have to be responsible about a bad situation someone else is in, in order to feel that you should do something to help?
What a jaded attitude...
you have not understood my point. I don't give a fuck how much $1,000 is worth TO ME. I care about what its worth to SOMEONE ELSE.
That was entirely the point I was making, the complete opposite of what you are assuming.
You don't 'forget' how much $1,000 is worth to ordinary people just because you become rich. Not unless you are born a billionaire and never meet anyone who isn't one.
Even if I was Bill gates, I would NEVER just throw $1000 away on something silly. Because I know the opportunity cost of that is $1,000 donated to some charity. That probably saves 20 kids eyesight in Africa for fucks sake.
You have to be pretty amazingly selfish or stupid to throw that kind of cash away, no matter how much you have. It's just an insult to those living on a pittance.
Excellent point.
she's been blatantly downloading copyrighted music and probably warez, and no surprise, some of the dodgy sites she visited infected her machine with malware.
So she is ripping artists off, and probably part of a botnet that sends me spam.
Explain again why I give a damn about this person? (unless of course I am a lawyer that wants to make money defending people like her...)
what if the second doctor tells you his investigations will take another year, but the first guy said you have 6 months to live?
Still not tempted by the pills?
Not surprisingly I agree 100%. If the idea is really that good, you could make a lot of money selling it direct yourself. If it's not, then the chances of anyone else doing anything with it were always pretty slim.
The idea is 100% yours, why use it to make *other people* rich?
there is much we don't know about cancer and aids, but if doctors suspect you have either, and suspect they have some drugs that might stop it, do you tell them "thanks but no thanks"?
you don't understand. this is slashdot. it doesn't matter how blatantly guilty she is, we have to find a way to twist logic to make piracy seem ok.
You DO realise that hundreds of thousands of voters WORK in the entertainment industry and quite sensibly will vote to enforce copyright laws right?
I see slashdot is still foaming at the mouth to defend this woman who blatantly and obviously copied music without paying for it. Nobody even pretends she is innocent, yet somehow she has become a hero for taking other peoples work for free...
you are talking about something that works in all weathers, times of day and lighting conditions, spotting all different styles of plates at different angles, with reflections, dirt etc, differentiating between plates and bumper stickers or other signs and lettering.
Having a gadget that passes a test in the lab is a different kettle of fish to one that works out in the real world.
what about speeding? you cool with that too? even dangerous speeding outside a school. still cool? what about when your kid gets smeared over the tarmac? still cool?
Or would you be first in line to argue why the hell hadn't someone caught this speeding lunatic before he did this?
Personally I object paying more in car insurance to cover the damage done by irresponsible jerks without insurance. Fine the bastards.
The thing is this technology is out there, its very efficient and useful, and can help solve crimes. And you want to somehow 'undo' it's invention?
Good luck with that. The people on here who would like to pretend such surveillance tech didn't happen, and want to prevent it being used are the exact same people who tell the media companies that P2P is a tech that cannot be un-invented, and that people should stop trying to prevent it's use...
I we prevent use of a tech because it *could* be misused, surely we block all P2P tech and all encryption yes? You can't have it both ways.
oh joy. another idiot suggesting copyright should be dumped.
Assuming for a minute you are from the USA a technologically advanced country whom each year shifts its balance of economics production more and more away from physical (thanks china!) towards IP, how exactly do you think the US economy will be once people like you have enforced a value of zero on all IP?
Nothing would please India, China and Africa more than the west being stupid enough to dump copyright.
Think it through for once.
now explain why you pirate movies and software too...
Or are you privy to every deal ever sigend between a software dev and a publisher and an actor and a movie studio, and always check against that list of 'acceptable' deals when you decide whether or not to torrent stuff?
you've been modded as flamebait which is 100% predictable on slashdot. People here know its totally out-of-order to take everyone else's work for free, but they will type reams of pseudo-intellectual bullshit on slashdot to try and justify it. They also HATE it when they are reminded how retarded the anti-copyright position is, so try to mod down pro-copyright posters so they don't get seen.
Sad isn't it?
I see. I pay corporation tax, based on accounts I provide. Next year I'll lie, and not pay a penny. I'm sure you don't mind making up my shortfall. Meanwhile, I'll be in the pub celebrating.
Cheers mate.
If you get your opinions from the anti-copyright maniac NYCL and you sue the phrase MAFIAA without irony, you seriously need to get some fucking perspective.
When its YOUR job that's on the line, I bet you
don't dismiss it as 'bleating'.
By the way, the fortunes behind WalMart and Tescos make coldplay look like peasants. maybe you should shoplift a bit next time, in order to 'put things right'? Or is it only righteous theft if you think you can get away with it?
do you expect other people to pay taxes too? or you happy to be the only guy paying that as well?
yes I think you have, although you missed out the more brain dead arnarcho-communist-teenage angst ones...
"Information wants to be free!!!111"
"the marginal cost of production is zero, therefore I can have it for free!!!"
"I'm stikc1ng it to the m4n!"
"Musicians are all billionaires"
"The artists don't get the money anyway"
"Its no different to listening to the radio"
"its just like using the library!!!11"
"Everyone does it!
"stopping copyright infringement is censorship"
Sad times, that such bullshit is rattled out as justification for taking other peoples work for free.
No it accomplishes a lot. It decimates USAs international tourism. Nobody I know has flown to holiday in the USA since 9/11. Your security bullshit makes the trip unenjoyable.
Meanwhile Canadian hotel companies are doing well.
In economic terms, auctions are more efficient. Auctions ensure that people pay the value to them of the product, and that the seller gets the correct price from the market.
If I price a good at $10, and nobody wants to buy it, I sell none, nobody enjoys the product, and I am none the wiser as to the value of the product, other than I know its under $10 (or it may be due to their being zero demand).
An auction makes the *real* value and price of the product immediately apparent to both parties, and allows it to vary over time to capture markets that otherwise would not be satisfied. Rather than suffering from understock or overstock, the price automatically adjusts so that all products get sold, and every slice of the market gets access to the product.
he referred to two separate incidents. you are the one linking them.