Did Microsoft turn you down for a job? Its pretty sad when you devote so much energy to bashing someone else's product you don't even compete with. I'm glad i bought a vista PC, and its far better than XP.
well said. I kicked off my sp1 install and went to lunch. Came back to a machine needing 1 reboot, and then back into my work. Later found I needed to reinstall my monitor driver which was apparently not certified. Took 5 mins. the fact that a few people might be moaning wildly does not mean the service pack met with a bad reception. This is the only place where it is vaguely an issue.
Which enemies would that be? The last people who 'attacked america' were a dozen guys with boxcutters. Amazingly, the existence of stealth bombers did not dissuade them on bit. Only the US thinks that all wars can be won by technology. They cannot. If you still want to continue with this belief that your country needs to spend such an obscene amount on weaponry, don't be surprised when your economy is beaten by China and Russia. Nobody else on earth has tried to 'keep up' with americas military spending for a good 20 years now. Rather than being an effective method to bankrupt the USSR, the USA's military budget is now only effective at brankrupting itself.
If technology won wars, iraq would be firmly under US control, and the US would have won in Vietnam.
What the fuck? You do realize that you can actually BUY content without pirating it right? How the fuck does stopping Japanese people using bit-torrent to steal stuff represent cultural isolation? If US music stores started banning sales of western DVDs to japan, you may have a point. The prosecuting of people for copyright infringement is just the Japanese enforcing the law, not censorship or cultural isolation. get a grip.
Its a dumbass idea dreamt up by idiots that think all customers are identical. I don't EVER download music off the net, partly because I don't really listen to new music. I buy a maximum of 1 CD a year. Why the fuck should my internet access charges be used to subsidise a bunch of kids music listening habits? Are they going to subsidise my reading habits? This is a fucking stupid idea. Just enforce copyright, prosecute piracy, and offer DRM-free lossless music at a reasonable cost through legal means.
well you should be 100% behind them using p2p for legal means the right? as they are making the slashdot point, that p2p has legal uses. You can't be defensive about legal P2p, and against companies using it at the same time...
I see no problem with them being anti-piracy, pro-copyright, and pro-using p2p for legal means.
but by your logic, the solution is for the movie industry to make more widescreen blockbusters with big special effects, that only look good on a big screen. Exactly the kind of bubblegum crap that/. posters whine about. I want people to make good movies, not movies that are designed to only be viewable on a theater screen to prevent rampant piracy.
The point of the article is for his company to slag off a pklatform it has recently failed on, so the investors think they are still doing well. I bought a Nintendo wii, just for wii sports, but will always be a PC gamer. the idea that the games available to me have to be pre-approved by men in suits from sony, Nintendo or Microsoft is just stupid. In the immediate future we have Spore and The Sims 3 coming up, and I certainly haven't finished with COD 4 or Sins of a solar Empire yet either. The PC will always be the ultimate games machine. Ultimate flexibility, ultimate storage space, moddability, processor power, memory. This guy should just shut the fuck up.
This is for domestic flights in the UK. the UK is SMALL. I can drive to Scotland in about a day, if I meet no traffic and I get up early. Last time I went on holiday within the UK (to Scotland) I got a sleeper train. it was as cheap, less hassle and way more comfortable than flying, and did my bit for less carbon emissions at the same time. And I didn't need to get treated like a terrorist to catch the train.
I don't holiday in the USA any more, because I won't visit a country that treats me like a terrorist on my holidays. I never flew internally in the UK anyway, but I'm even more determined not to do so now. You can even get an overnight train from London to Venice. There is literally no need for 90% of the flights UK travellers take.
gimme a break. this whole web 2.0 thing was a meaningless buzzword. Someone wake me up when we reach web 10.0. Its still using browsers to talk over port 80 with IPv4. we are still web 1.0. Bloody marketers.
explain to me how walmarts business survives without the law? Without the law, I can walk into any bricks and mortar store, or for that matter, your house, with a machinegun, and take what the fuck I want. All commerce is only possible because ultimately, there are legal ramifications for breaking the rules. That's as true of shoplifting as it is of copyright theft. The only difference is, that in some areas now, it is easier to break copyright law than laws applying to B&M stores. That doesn't magically make one business model substantially different to the other.
But this means the only producable type of movie is one which can support action figures and bumper stickers? I'm pretty glad that my favorite movie makers are not tearing up whole scripts because "none of the characters make good poseable action figures".
I still don't see why we cant just pay for entertainment we like. I like the movie 'Pride And Prejudice', so I paid to see it at the theater, and I bought the DVD. Everyone is happy, me, the movie theater, the movie maker. If I had done the slashdot thing and just torrented it, the whole system breaks down, and suddenly films like that aren't made because they cant sell 'mr darcy action figures'.
Its amazing how well the system works when people just pay for what they want to watch.
I'm sure some actors make millions for what tey do. Good luck to them. the head of exxon makes a lot more than you do too. People trot out arguments about overpaid actors because it lets them justify stealing movies. You never mention overpaid CEOS, because physical shoplifting isn't as easy to do. Apart from that, where is the difference?
Excellent post, it says a lot about the mentality of people here that they modded you flamebait. there is nothing flamebait whatsoever about your post, its reasonable, well thought out, and entirely correct.
agreed 100%. The thing is, people like to *pretend* there is a difference, because this allows them to feel ok about downloading copyrighted material made by corporations (defined therefore as evil) whilst still supporting cases like this, where the bad guy can still be identified as a corporation (defined as evil). Somehow, a lot of people have deluded themselves that everything individuals do is just dandy, and everything corporations do is evil, despite them being owned, run and employing the same individuals. It's good to see a lot of slashdot posters realise how hypocritical this attitude is, although its also sad to see idiots tagging the story with 'copywrong'. I bet some even added 'MAFIAA' to it automatically too.:(
So lets get this straight, he can take a full copy (against my wishes) , and if he wants to, he can play it every day for 6 hours a day, but still decide its not worth anything right?
In which case I demand a refund for every piece of music or movie I ever bought, as I have suddenly decided that despite still enjoying music and movies, I put in place my voluntary ability to declare them worthless.
This is just silly wordplay to avoid paying for stuff, and everyone knows it. If you enjoy the fruits of someone else's labour, and they are charging for it, you should pay for it. That's just decent manners.
hmm. I make PC games. do you have a fundamental right to copy my games for free? if yes, then given that any sane person would only behave in a way he believes everyone else should be ok to behave, then in a world where everyone does as you do, why would I ever make games again? Why would anyone, anywhere, ever make anything that can be digitally encoded again? except as a hobby?
If you accept that your right to take anything digital for free does not scale up to society, do you accept that this means you are, be definition, leeching off the actions of the majority?
Can we stop calling travelling salesmen 'road warriors'. Its a pathetic attempt to make very safe ordinary jobs done by people in suits sound like ninjas.
more likely they are a software company rolling out tens of millions of copies of an O/S onto completely random hardware. I'd be amazed if there were not a few problems.
yes all very passionate, but say I'm a movie director. I have a great idea for a movie, that we can all agree is awesome. To make the movie will cost (at least) 2 million dollars. that's to do a professional job. I am an unknown movie director, but very talented, and enough venture capitalists are prepared to put up the money on the basis that the film will be watched by at least a million people, ensuring a healthy return on investment.
Now we all know how the story goes when we can assume 95% of the people who watch the movie will pay for it. How does it work when copyright is abolished and everyone can (and does) watch the movie for free?
face facts, the movie won't get made. And before you start a diatribe about how you hate 'crappy hollywood blockbusters', please explain why if so many geeks hate hollywood blockbusters, they are all torrenting them 24/7?
Copyright can be abused, that doesn't mean the concept is wrong. in fact, without it, the future of the US economy, and most developed world economies is fucked, because places like china found out how to produce physical stuff cheaper than we do long ago.
"if distributors are removed, i think maybe 1/10th of the money involved goes away. but as before artists saw only 1/1,000th of the money in play, now they will see 900% of the money in play. so artists make out better for the destruction of distributors"
keep telling yourself this if it makes you feel better about piracy, but its a pathetic justification. I don't even use middlemen 90% of the time, I sell my stuff direct. And people still pirate it. 90% of the money sued to go to me. When people pirate the stuff, 0% of it goes it me. It seems like you, like many slashdotters read a few bullshit statistics once about the amount per copy some musician negotiated (yes this stuff is written in the contract they THEY signed), and have used it as a blanet justification for mass piracy ever since.
Do you check to see what chunk the content creator gets before you 'justify' each torrent? or do you just leech what the fuck you want anyway, and screw the creator?
You can compare me to a chimney sweep if it makes you feel technologically superior, but the progress being described is hardly progress. We currently have thriving creative industries. Widespread piracy will kill them all off. I'm not asking for anyone's sympathy, just pointing out that the music and movie loving warez kids are acting like the easter island occupants.
I don't expect to change any hardcore pirates minds anyway, you all think that other people exist purely to entertain you at our expense. This is why content is increasingly aimed at young kids or people over 30. People make content aimed at who buys it, not who likes it.
So the movie makers, musicians, writers, software developers and game designers should all go do a basic course in plumbing and carpentry? I don't know about you, but I need to pay the bills. You are basically saying that thanks to selfish leeches who think everyone owes them free entertainment for life, our entire collective digital industries are now dead and buried, to be pursued only by hobbyists at the weekends? Personally, I'd rather it didn't come to that, and if that means using the law to crack down on people blatantly and repeatedly infringing copyright, then good. Someone copying a mates Cd was never the issue. Its people who leave servers on 24/7 distributing tens of thousands of files that were only released yesterday that is the problem.
your water and electricity supplies to your house have a single point of failure. OH NOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not vaguely worried about Microsoft going under. And even if they did, my O/S would still work perfectly. If I unplug the internet it still works. Whats your point?
Hurl abuse all you want, I have an O/S that I find easy to use, it came pre-installed at my request, it has features I like and use all the time, and in my opinion its the best O/S I've ever used. Sorry that I can't join you over there in the 'elite' who want to recompile their O/S every week, but like 99% of real people (or sheeple to you) I use the O/S to do work, not to fiddle with as a hobby. The arrogant elitist slashdot attitude to vista is why linux is still used by virtually nobody in the mainstream. You don't persuade people to join you by insulting them.
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so fucking what?
How much of that 10-20 million did you get personally?
Did Microsoft turn you down for a job? Its pretty sad when you devote so much energy to bashing someone else's product you don't even compete with. I'm glad i bought a vista PC, and its far better than XP.
well said. I kicked off my sp1 install and went to lunch. Came back to a machine needing 1 reboot, and then back into my work. Later found I needed to reinstall my monitor driver which was apparently not certified. Took 5 mins.
the fact that a few people might be moaning wildly does not mean the service pack met with a bad reception. This is the only place where it is vaguely an issue.
Which enemies would that be? The last people who 'attacked america' were a dozen guys with boxcutters. Amazingly, the existence of stealth bombers did not dissuade them on bit.
Only the US thinks that all wars can be won by technology. They cannot. If you still want to continue with this belief that your country needs to spend such an obscene amount on weaponry, don't be surprised when your economy is beaten by China and Russia.
Nobody else on earth has tried to 'keep up' with americas military spending for a good 20 years now. Rather than being an effective method to bankrupt the USSR, the USA's military budget is now only effective at brankrupting itself.
If technology won wars, iraq would be firmly under US control, and the US would have won in Vietnam.
What the fuck?
You do realize that you can actually BUY content without pirating it right? How the fuck does stopping Japanese people using bit-torrent to steal stuff represent cultural isolation? If US music stores started banning sales of western DVDs to japan, you may have a point. The prosecuting of people for copyright infringement is just the Japanese enforcing the law, not censorship or cultural isolation.
get a grip.
Its a dumbass idea dreamt up by idiots that think all customers are identical. I don't EVER download music off the net, partly because I don't really listen to new music. I buy a maximum of 1 CD a year. Why the fuck should my internet access charges be used to subsidise a bunch of kids music listening habits? Are they going to subsidise my reading habits?
This is a fucking stupid idea. Just enforce copyright, prosecute piracy, and offer DRM-free lossless music at a reasonable cost through legal means.
well you should be 100% behind them using p2p for legal means the right? as they are making the slashdot point, that p2p has legal uses. You can't be defensive about legal P2p, and against companies using it at the same time...
I see no problem with them being anti-piracy, pro-copyright, and pro-using p2p for legal means.
but by your logic, the solution is for the movie industry to make more widescreen blockbusters with big special effects, that only look good on a big screen. Exactly the kind of bubblegum crap that /. posters whine about.
I want people to make good movies, not movies that are designed to only be viewable on a theater screen to prevent rampant piracy.
a book.
The point of the article is for his company to slag off a pklatform it has recently failed on, so the investors think they are still doing well.
I bought a Nintendo wii, just for wii sports, but will always be a PC gamer. the idea that the games available to me have to be pre-approved by men in suits from sony, Nintendo or Microsoft is just stupid. In the immediate future we have Spore and The Sims 3 coming up, and I certainly haven't finished with COD 4 or Sins of a solar Empire yet either.
The PC will always be the ultimate games machine. Ultimate flexibility, ultimate storage space, moddability, processor power, memory.
This guy should just shut the fuck up.
This is for domestic flights in the UK. the UK is SMALL. I can drive to Scotland in about a day, if I meet no traffic and I get up early. Last time I went on holiday within the UK (to Scotland) I got a sleeper train. it was as cheap, less hassle and way more comfortable than flying, and did my bit for less carbon emissions at the same time. And I didn't need to get treated like a terrorist to catch the train.
I don't holiday in the USA any more, because I won't visit a country that treats me like a terrorist on my holidays. I never flew internally in the UK anyway, but I'm even more determined not to do so now.
You can even get an overnight train from London to Venice. There is literally no need for 90% of the flights UK travellers take.
gimme a break. this whole web 2.0 thing was a meaningless buzzword. Someone wake me up when we reach web 10.0.
Its still using browsers to talk over port 80 with IPv4. we are still web 1.0.
Bloody marketers.
explain to me how walmarts business survives without the law?
Without the law, I can walk into any bricks and mortar store, or for that matter, your house, with a machinegun, and take what the fuck I want.
All commerce is only possible because ultimately, there are legal ramifications for breaking the rules. That's as true of shoplifting as it is of copyright theft.
The only difference is, that in some areas now, it is easier to break copyright law than laws applying to B&M stores. That doesn't magically make one business model substantially different to the other.
But this means the only producable type of movie is one which can support action figures and bumper stickers? I'm pretty glad that my favorite movie makers are not tearing up whole scripts because "none of the characters make good poseable action figures".
I still don't see why we cant just pay for entertainment we like. I like the movie 'Pride And Prejudice', so I paid to see it at the theater, and I bought the DVD. Everyone is happy, me, the movie theater, the movie maker. If I had done the slashdot thing and just torrented it, the whole system breaks down, and suddenly films like that aren't made because they cant sell 'mr darcy action figures'.
Its amazing how well the system works when people just pay for what they want to watch.
I'm sure some actors make millions for what tey do. Good luck to them. the head of exxon makes a lot more than you do too. People trot out arguments about overpaid actors because it lets them justify stealing movies. You never mention overpaid CEOS, because physical shoplifting isn't as easy to do. Apart from that, where is the difference?
Excellent post, it says a lot about the mentality of people here that they modded you flamebait. there is nothing flamebait whatsoever about your post, its reasonable, well thought out, and entirely correct.
agreed 100%. The thing is, people like to *pretend* there is a difference, because this allows them to feel ok about downloading copyrighted material made by corporations (defined therefore as evil) whilst still supporting cases like this, where the bad guy can still be identified as a corporation (defined as evil). :(
Somehow, a lot of people have deluded themselves that everything individuals do is just dandy, and everything corporations do is evil, despite them being owned, run and employing the same individuals.
It's good to see a lot of slashdot posters realise how hypocritical this attitude is, although its also sad to see idiots tagging the story with 'copywrong'. I bet some even added 'MAFIAA' to it automatically too.
*sigh*
So lets get this straight, he can take a full copy (against my wishes) , and if he wants to, he can play it every day for 6 hours a day, but still decide its not worth anything right?
In which case I demand a refund for every piece of music or movie I ever bought, as I have suddenly decided that despite still enjoying music and movies, I put in place my voluntary ability to declare them worthless.
This is just silly wordplay to avoid paying for stuff, and everyone knows it. If you enjoy the fruits of someone else's labour, and they are charging for it, you should pay for it. That's just decent manners.
hmm. I make PC games. do you have a fundamental right to copy my games for free?
if yes, then given that any sane person would only behave in a way he believes everyone else should be ok to behave, then in a world where everyone does as you do, why would I ever make games again?
Why would anyone, anywhere, ever make anything that can be digitally encoded again? except as a hobby?
If you accept that your right to take anything digital for free does not scale up to society, do you accept that this means you are, be definition, leeching off the actions of the majority?
Can we stop calling travelling salesmen 'road warriors'. Its a pathetic attempt to make very safe ordinary jobs done by people in suits sound like ninjas.
more likely they are a software company rolling out tens of millions of copies of an O/S onto completely random hardware. I'd be amazed if there were not a few problems.
yes all very passionate, but say I'm a movie director. I have a great idea for a movie, that we can all agree is awesome. To make the movie will cost (at least) 2 million dollars. that's to do a professional job. I am an unknown movie director, but very talented, and enough venture capitalists are prepared to put up the money on the basis that the film will be watched by at least a million people, ensuring a healthy return on investment.
Now we all know how the story goes when we can assume 95% of the people who watch the movie will pay for it.
How does it work when copyright is abolished and everyone can (and does) watch the movie for free?
face facts, the movie won't get made. And before you start a diatribe about how you hate 'crappy hollywood blockbusters', please explain why if so many geeks hate hollywood blockbusters, they are all torrenting them 24/7?
Copyright can be abused, that doesn't mean the concept is wrong. in fact, without it, the future of the US economy, and most developed world economies is fucked, because places like china found out how to produce physical stuff cheaper than we do long ago.
"if distributors are removed, i think maybe 1/10th of the money involved goes away. but as before artists saw only 1/1,000th of the money in play, now they will see 900% of the money in play. so artists make out better for the destruction of distributors"
keep telling yourself this if it makes you feel better about piracy, but its a pathetic justification.
I don't even use middlemen 90% of the time, I sell my stuff direct. And people still pirate it. 90% of the money sued to go to me. When people pirate the stuff, 0% of it goes it me.
It seems like you, like many slashdotters read a few bullshit statistics once about the amount per copy some musician negotiated (yes this stuff is written in the contract they THEY signed), and have used it as a blanet justification for mass piracy ever since.
Do you check to see what chunk the content creator gets before you 'justify' each torrent? or do you just leech what the fuck you want anyway, and screw the creator?
You can compare me to a chimney sweep if it makes you feel technologically superior, but the progress being described is hardly progress. We currently have thriving creative industries. Widespread piracy will kill them all off. I'm not asking for anyone's sympathy, just pointing out that the music and movie loving warez kids are acting like the easter island occupants.
I don't expect to change any hardcore pirates minds anyway, you all think that other people exist purely to entertain you at our expense. This is why content is increasingly aimed at young kids or people over 30. People make content aimed at who buys it, not who likes it.
"intellectual property is dead"
So the movie makers, musicians, writers, software developers and game designers should all go do a basic course in plumbing and carpentry?
I don't know about you, but I need to pay the bills. You are basically saying that thanks to selfish leeches who think everyone owes them free entertainment for life, our entire collective digital industries are now dead and buried, to be pursued only by hobbyists at the weekends?
Personally, I'd rather it didn't come to that, and if that means using the law to crack down on people blatantly and repeatedly infringing copyright, then good. Someone copying a mates Cd was never the issue. Its people who leave servers on 24/7 distributing tens of thousands of files that were only released yesterday that is the problem.
your water and electricity supplies to your house have a single point of failure. OH NOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not vaguely worried about Microsoft going under. And even if they did, my O/S would still work perfectly. If I unplug the internet it still works. Whats your point?
Hurl abuse all you want, I have an O/S that I find easy to use, it came pre-installed at my request, it has features I like and use all the time, and in my opinion its the best O/S I've ever used. Sorry that I can't join you over there in the 'elite' who want to recompile their O/S every week, but like 99% of real people (or sheeple to you) I use the O/S to do work, not to fiddle with as a hobby.
The arrogant elitist slashdot attitude to vista is why linux is still used by virtually nobody in the mainstream. You don't persuade people to join you by insulting them.