Yes, we all get the point that the computers SHOULD come with recovery discs. But Circuit City doesn't manufacture or pack the computers, does it? You think it should be up to Circuit City to spend a couple hours waiting for your discs to burn? And for you and every other customer who comes in there and buys a computer that they make almost 0% margin on, no less?
Go bitch to HP for not including the discs, or spend the $0.50 on 2 blank DVD-Rs and do it yourself, but don't raise hell with a salesperson just doing his job and offering you a convenience (unless he lies about whether you can make them yourself). Ask nicely if they'll throw it in. If you're getting other services from them, they will probably do it for you at no extra cost.
You're right about the repetitive comments - but didn't we just see a study on here showing that 81% of (web-browsing) users are still on XP, and only 4% are on Vista?
The experience index still means no more to an XP user than it does to (for example) a Linux user, so the GP had a point.
Sometimes it's best to have a "professional-grade" brand versus a consumer-grade one.
So.. what exactly is the situation right now with Cisco and Linksys, if that's not it? Cisco already makes its "toasters" under the Linksys name, and its professional-grade tools under Cisco.
Oh shit, I originally read your post as meaning any PS3, not just the 20GB one. Sorry, those are the 60GB ones that get used like that. And it doesn't matter because the ones out on the floor never sell.
They were short, yes. I didn't know if I'd call them sparse, being after every 2 paragraphs.
And they were exactly the type of thing you'd see in Wired. That's not a good thing: they were the type of thing your mother would see in Wired, and then cut out and show to you because it was so "cool and different", and then watch as you roll your eyes because the code snippets are corny and irrelevant.
Well, we're talking about two separate users and iTunes stores the library file in My Documents\My Music\iTunes\ so it'd be a different one for both users anyway.
Noted, but my point is that Vista will run VERY comfortably on that 1GB. However, 2000 runs like absolute shit (if at all) on the 32MB you listed, same with XP on 128. More comparable figures to the 1GB for Vista are 128-256 for 2000 and 256-384 for XP.
You can't mix recommended and required amounts of RAM to make Vista look worse. Vista only requires 512MB. And if you're saying these are recommended amounts, I don't know what you do on your Windows machines... sit there idling, staring at the desktop?
My mom is 50, and she had a World of Warcraft account, on which she got her character to level 25, before complaining of the grind. Also, she really likes Morrowind.
You're absolutely right, this is such an outrage! When I started mapping in Half-Life 1, I made a replica of half a block of the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee campus, starting with my dorm room. It made for quite an interesting map, and it was very rewarding seeing a place people could recognize that _I_ made on the HL1 engine.
What shift to the Battlefield series? More people still play CS than BF, easily. And where do you get that most gamers avoided HL2? What "stiff opposition"? Most gamers were foaming at the mouth for it, myself included. HL2 is a great game. I would accept that people were apprehensive about using STEAM, but that didn't stop many people from getting HL2.
Oh, I know the VM size is usually around 40mb, but the Mem Usage column is all that matters, as it's the physical memory being used. I have a 3gb page file in addition to my 2gb of RAM, so it's not a problem either way, especially since the 40mb that's probably in the pagefile isn't causing my hard drive to thrash or anything...
I also wouldn't really blame Steam for that, lots of programs use a lot of VM but very little physical memory (Winamp 5 takes up about 40mb VM for me and 3mb physical when it's in the tray, and that's definitely a slim and well-done program).
Also, Comcast just upgraded me to 1.5MB/s internet out of nowhere and for free (yes, that's megabytes) so your 64 kilobits a second could indeed be hindering the startup time if it has to check for updates, etc. My Steam CPU usage is always at 0 unless I'm doing something though, although if I leave it on for a few days it'll start using some, but I don't need to leave it running that long anyway...
That being said, I do wish there were standalone versions of the games available, as I usually only play CS Source with bots and I certainly shouldn't need the internet to play HL1 and HL2...
I tend to think comments about Steam's "poor execution" reek of 2004, when it actually did suck and was in beta. I just started Steam, and it took all of 5 seconds, and now it's sitting in my tray using 3MB of RAM and 0% CPU.
All you have to do is click the arrow on the upper-right to make it use the "old" interface, which is what I prefer anyway. Then set your Favorite Window to Games in Settings. Voila, every time you start Steam, it'll only go to the old-style games window, which is fast, and as you can see above, not resource intensive.
I will admit every once in a great while it'll do an automatic update or something, which does use CPU. But I wouldn't call it a resource hog, unless you're still on a Pentium II with 256MB of RAM. I'm running an Athlon 64 4000+, which nowadays is in the $90 range on Newegg.
As another ex-alpha (for Factions and Nightfall) I can tell you they've never listened to such large design decisions from us. And I do know the quests are pretty strictly linear, but those aren't really what I played, I was speaking more in terms of everything you can do (running, playing the market, working out a solo build for that boss, etc).
And no one ever comes close in open-endedness to Elder Scrolls games, which is why Morrowind and Oblivion are my favorite games of all time:-)
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Yes, we all get the point that the computers SHOULD come with recovery discs. But Circuit City doesn't manufacture or pack the computers, does it? You think it should be up to Circuit City to spend a couple hours waiting for your discs to burn? And for you and every other customer who comes in there and buys a computer that they make almost 0% margin on, no less?
Go bitch to HP for not including the discs, or spend the $0.50 on 2 blank DVD-Rs and do it yourself, but don't raise hell with a salesperson just doing his job and offering you a convenience (unless he lies about whether you can make them yourself). Ask nicely if they'll throw it in. If you're getting other services from them, they will probably do it for you at no extra cost.
You're right about the repetitive comments - but didn't we just see a study on here showing that 81% of (web-browsing) users are still on XP, and only 4% are on Vista?
The experience index still means no more to an XP user than it does to (for example) a Linux user, so the GP had a point.
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What's a "shoot themselves in the foot"? Is that something the grammar Nazis own?
Oh shit, I originally read your post as meaning any PS3, not just the 20GB one. Sorry, those are the 60GB ones that get used like that. And it doesn't matter because the ones out on the floor never sell.
Weird, the Circuit City I work at has so many in the back room that we actually use them for doorstops around the store and in the back..
And they were exactly the type of thing you'd see in Wired. That's not a good thing: they were the type of thing your mother would see in Wired, and then cut out and show to you because it was so "cool and different", and then watch as you roll your eyes because the code snippets are corny and irrelevant.
Well, we're talking about two separate users and iTunes stores the library file in My Documents\My Music\iTunes\ so it'd be a different one for both users anyway.
I'd rather eat the shit than the veggie burger.
Don't forget P-Mate!
I loved that show. My favorite was this one from 2 minutes to 7 minutes ("Change for a dollar")..
Try Whitest Kids U Know. Some of my favorite sketches:
Leg peeing
Cubicle boss
Slow jerk
Abe Lincoln - the true story
Noted, but my point is that Vista will run VERY comfortably on that 1GB. However, 2000 runs like absolute shit (if at all) on the 32MB you listed, same with XP on 128. More comparable figures to the 1GB for Vista are 128-256 for 2000 and 256-384 for XP.
Look again at that page, scroll down to the bottom. All editions, minimum is 512.
You can't mix recommended and required amounts of RAM to make Vista look worse. Vista only requires 512MB. And if you're saying these are recommended amounts, I don't know what you do on your Windows machines... sit there idling, staring at the desktop?
My mom is 50, and she had a World of Warcraft account, on which she got her character to level 25, before complaining of the grind. Also, she really likes Morrowind.
You're absolutely right, this is such an outrage! When I started mapping in Half-Life 1, I made a replica of half a block of the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee campus, starting with my dorm room. It made for quite an interesting map, and it was very rewarding seeing a place people could recognize that _I_ made on the HL1 engine.
What shift to the Battlefield series? More people still play CS than BF, easily. And where do you get that most gamers avoided HL2? What "stiff opposition"? Most gamers were foaming at the mouth for it, myself included. HL2 is a great game. I would accept that people were apprehensive about using STEAM, but that didn't stop many people from getting HL2.
THE BEEEES
How many words per minute?
Oh, I know the VM size is usually around 40mb, but the Mem Usage column is all that matters, as it's the physical memory being used. I have a 3gb page file in addition to my 2gb of RAM, so it's not a problem either way, especially since the 40mb that's probably in the pagefile isn't causing my hard drive to thrash or anything...
I also wouldn't really blame Steam for that, lots of programs use a lot of VM but very little physical memory (Winamp 5 takes up about 40mb VM for me and 3mb physical when it's in the tray, and that's definitely a slim and well-done program).
Also, Comcast just upgraded me to 1.5MB/s internet out of nowhere and for free (yes, that's megabytes) so your 64 kilobits a second could indeed be hindering the startup time if it has to check for updates, etc. My Steam CPU usage is always at 0 unless I'm doing something though, although if I leave it on for a few days it'll start using some, but I don't need to leave it running that long anyway...
That being said, I do wish there were standalone versions of the games available, as I usually only play CS Source with bots and I certainly shouldn't need the internet to play HL1 and HL2...
I tend to think comments about Steam's "poor execution" reek of 2004, when it actually did suck and was in beta. I just started Steam, and it took all of 5 seconds, and now it's sitting in my tray using 3MB of RAM and 0% CPU.
All you have to do is click the arrow on the upper-right to make it use the "old" interface, which is what I prefer anyway. Then set your Favorite Window to Games in Settings. Voila, every time you start Steam, it'll only go to the old-style games window, which is fast, and as you can see above, not resource intensive.
I will admit every once in a great while it'll do an automatic update or something, which does use CPU. But I wouldn't call it a resource hog, unless you're still on a Pentium II with 256MB of RAM. I'm running an Athlon 64 4000+, which nowadays is in the $90 range on Newegg.
Tit for tat, as it were.
As another ex-alpha (for Factions and Nightfall) I can tell you they've never listened to such large design decisions from us. And I do know the quests are pretty strictly linear, but those aren't really what I played, I was speaking more in terms of everything you can do (running, playing the market, working out a solo build for that boss, etc).
:-)
And no one ever comes close in open-endedness to Elder Scrolls games, which is why Morrowind and Oblivion are my favorite games of all time