In many ways the SNES was superior to the Genesis and yet Sega had a huge following because the games were fun.
I know what you're saying (Sega was close to Nintendo in those days), but the light you paint it in is that the SNES was technologically superior to the Genesis but had no fun games.
I think the opposite was also true: the Genesis tech was superior to that of the SNES in some ways, but it was Nintendo's (more) fun first-party games that caused it to have a larger following. I remember a lot of the third-party games in those days being on both Genesis and SNES, but at the end of the day I was on the Nintendo side of the fence because Mario, Zelda, and Metroid were more fun to me than Sonic and Ecco:-)
Also, I, too was sad about the Dreamcast's fate. It was great hardware, and had some fun and unique games (and at the time, more so than PS2, although the PS2 in its later years far surpassed the Dreamcast in that regard (and granted, the Dreamcast didn't have a chance to fully mature and gain the library it could have)). Wow, hope you can parse my double parentheses there.
Firstly, anyone owning a Core 2 Duo Mac (that paid for it themself) is not going to have trouble paying an extra $4.99 to enable state-of-the-art wireless technology. Hell, even someone with a minimum-wage job who got it as a gift could shell that out.
Secondly, everyone's stance on this seems to be "extortion for extra profit". Please. Their reason sounds legitimate to me, but let's look at what Apple even has to gain from this:
Currently, over 50 million people own an Apple product (I'm getting this from a quick Google search, and all the following numbers are just arbitrary guesses to prove my point). Let's say half of those are iPods. And of the 25 million computers, how many are the new Core 2 Duo mac? Let's say 1 million (that's being generous, I'm sure, as this is a higher-end model, correct?). And how many of the owners of these are going to need (or want) 802.11n? Let's say half. So 500,000 people at $5 a pop, 2.5 million dollars.
And Apple is what, a multi-billion dollar company? Does everyone here really think they'd do something to upset their customers like this over 2.5 million dollars? I don't think so. They could simply raise the price of every computer $5 for the same effect, with less backlash.
I realize these numbers are incredibly rough estimates, but my point is there's no way they're making enough money off this (with the bad press and all) for it to be some evil for-profit extortion.
And being someone who prefers to do the labor and tinker and put together a computer, in addition to being able to upgrade any component I need to in the future, I choose the do-it-yourself method. It's not really like lumber/glue/sealant, since all the parts are still professionally made. I just get to choose exactly which ones I want. Agreed, though, that's not Apple's market.
What I originally meant was I'd buy Apple hardware if the price tag was lower, just because it's so slick and pretty (and then I'd get to play around with slick and pretty OS X as well). But, being someone who enjoys tinkering and free (as in beer) software, I prefer to run Linux normally, and Windows (got a license for $5 through the University) for gaming. Yes, you can use Mac hardware for those things but I just can't afford to spend an extra $1000 to get an equivalent-performance Mac box.
Or, going back to the original topic, I can't afford $500-600 for a phone. Didn't mean it in a negative way towards Apple, just a possible counterpoint to my point that the iPhone probably won't fail because of the tactile feedback concern.
Ah. Well maybe I misinterpreted your original reply or confused you with someone else who replied to me and actually was flaming (there were several). Better job will come when I can commit more hours when I'm done with school, thanks.
I never said I'd like an iPhone. I honestly don't really care what phone I have if it has a camera and it makes calls, and having an iPhone or a new G5 would not improve my life. I'm sorry to see you're so shallow.
As for the fries comment, I'm still in college and my last 2 jobs (over the past 4 years) have been in network administration. So yeah, those jobs are changing the oil just fine, and for only being 21, I'm completely satisfied.
And as for the people skills, I don't afford them to people on Slashdot who take an offhand comment of mine out of context, read way too far into it, and then flame me.
My Razr was a gift. I'd never spend $300 on a phone on my own, let alone $500-$600.
I'll be sure to never to post anything remotely negative about Apple on Slashdot ever again: I can't even remember the last time I got a reply to a comment on Slashdot this quickly, let alone three replies, all rabidly defending Apple and flaming me for "trolling", while making assumptions about me (like that I spent hundreds of dollars on my phone or that I'd ever consider buying from Dell or Gateway) because of half a sentence I put out there that was simply providing a counterpoint to my point (which was that the iPhone would probably succeed despite tactile feedback).
However, your comment was pleasant to read compared to the other, more scathing replies (despite your condescension).
I was trolling? "Get a life"? Because I made a quick reply to a comment on Slashdot, saying why I thought the iPhone would succeed, and then made a small concession about why it might not, I should get a life? You need to cool down. I would never buy from Gateway or Dell, so don't throw me that bullshit about Apple being cheaper than them. I build everything off Newegg, meaning I get a near-top-of-the-line computer with a free OS for under $1000. Apple can't beat that.
I don't know, the RAZR's buttons are pretty un-tactile.
Sure, they're flat and don't move much when you press them, but they've got ridges and you can still find your way around, and feel that you have indeed pressed a button. I've taught myself to blind-dial with my Razr in spite of their lack of feedback. I don't think this would be very possible with iPhone (unless maybe some sort of clicking sound was implemented.. but that wouldn't help much).
Everyone knew the first time they used a Razr that the buttons sucked, and that the UI was slow, but it was just so cool and had features most phones didn't at the time, so there's no saying whether the iPhone would really suffer commercially from the touch screen. The price, however... I won't be getting one for the same reason I've never owned other Mac hardware.
Do you just break every rubber band you use every time you use it? You'd only need a couple rubber bands, not a whole bag, and that's still assuming you're so incompetent you can't pull one off and put it back on a few times over the course of your trip without breaking it.
I think you must be talking about a 5800, not a 6800? I know the FX 5xxx series was horribly half-assedly "DirectX 9 compatible", but I'm pretty sure the 6800 series is 100% DX9 (9.0c even) compatible.. that was one of its main selling points.
Nope, but in 1996 Opera had buttons in their browser for each page along the top, which worked EXACTLY LIKE TABS. NetCaptor was just the first to draw them like tabs in their interface. Stop spreading the myth.
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Nice UID.
Good points, but in Windows 2000's defense, it really was fantastically better than 98.
It really shows when you don't know what you're talking about... if you want to save some face, just don't even try.
I know what you're saying (Sega was close to Nintendo in those days), but the light you paint it in is that the SNES was technologically superior to the Genesis but had no fun games.
I think the opposite was also true: the Genesis tech was superior to that of the SNES in some ways, but it was Nintendo's (more) fun first-party games that caused it to have a larger following. I remember a lot of the third-party games in those days being on both Genesis and SNES, but at the end of the day I was on the Nintendo side of the fence because Mario, Zelda, and Metroid were more fun to me than Sonic and Ecco :-)
Also, I, too was sad about the Dreamcast's fate. It was great hardware, and had some fun and unique games (and at the time, more so than PS2, although the PS2 in its later years far surpassed the Dreamcast in that regard (and granted, the Dreamcast didn't have a chance to fully mature and gain the library it could have)). Wow, hope you can parse my double parentheses there.
I'd also recommend reading Masters of Doom.
Firstly, anyone owning a Core 2 Duo Mac (that paid for it themself) is not going to have trouble paying an extra $4.99 to enable state-of-the-art wireless technology. Hell, even someone with a minimum-wage job who got it as a gift could shell that out.
Secondly, everyone's stance on this seems to be "extortion for extra profit". Please. Their reason sounds legitimate to me, but let's look at what Apple even has to gain from this:
Currently, over 50 million people own an Apple product (I'm getting this from a quick Google search, and all the following numbers are just arbitrary guesses to prove my point). Let's say half of those are iPods. And of the 25 million computers, how many are the new Core 2 Duo mac? Let's say 1 million (that's being generous, I'm sure, as this is a higher-end model, correct?). And how many of the owners of these are going to need (or want) 802.11n? Let's say half. So 500,000 people at $5 a pop, 2.5 million dollars.
And Apple is what, a multi-billion dollar company? Does everyone here really think they'd do something to upset their customers like this over 2.5 million dollars? I don't think so. They could simply raise the price of every computer $5 for the same effect, with less backlash.
I realize these numbers are incredibly rough estimates, but my point is there's no way they're making enough money off this (with the bad press and all) for it to be some evil for-profit extortion.
Did they do that for the whole movie, or just for that scene (that was a flashback scene if I remember correctly)?
What I originally meant was I'd buy Apple hardware if the price tag was lower, just because it's so slick and pretty (and then I'd get to play around with slick and pretty OS X as well). But, being someone who enjoys tinkering and free (as in beer) software, I prefer to run Linux normally, and Windows (got a license for $5 through the University) for gaming. Yes, you can use Mac hardware for those things but I just can't afford to spend an extra $1000 to get an equivalent-performance Mac box.
Or, going back to the original topic, I can't afford $500-600 for a phone. Didn't mean it in a negative way towards Apple, just a possible counterpoint to my point that the iPhone probably won't fail because of the tactile feedback concern.
Ah. Well maybe I misinterpreted your original reply or confused you with someone else who replied to me and actually was flaming (there were several). Better job will come when I can commit more hours when I'm done with school, thanks.
As for the fries comment, I'm still in college and my last 2 jobs (over the past 4 years) have been in network administration. So yeah, those jobs are changing the oil just fine, and for only being 21, I'm completely satisfied.
And as for the people skills, I don't afford them to people on Slashdot who take an offhand comment of mine out of context, read way too far into it, and then flame me.
you could go rant on some luxury car forums
My original half-sentence remark hardly qualified as a rant, and certainly didn't warrant an asshole reply. Fuck off.
My Razr was a gift. I'd never spend $300 on a phone on my own, let alone $500-$600.
I'll be sure to never to post anything remotely negative about Apple on Slashdot ever again: I can't even remember the last time I got a reply to a comment on Slashdot this quickly, let alone three replies, all rabidly defending Apple and flaming me for "trolling", while making assumptions about me (like that I spent hundreds of dollars on my phone or that I'd ever consider buying from Dell or Gateway) because of half a sentence I put out there that was simply providing a counterpoint to my point (which was that the iPhone would probably succeed despite tactile feedback).
However, your comment was pleasant to read compared to the other, more scathing replies (despite your condescension).
I was trolling? "Get a life"? Because I made a quick reply to a comment on Slashdot, saying why I thought the iPhone would succeed, and then made a small concession about why it might not, I should get a life? You need to cool down. I would never buy from Gateway or Dell, so don't throw me that bullshit about Apple being cheaper than them. I build everything off Newegg, meaning I get a near-top-of-the-line computer with a free OS for under $1000. Apple can't beat that.
You don't have to be a dick about it. I'm sorry I can only afford about $150 for a phones and $1000 for a computer (newegg).
Sure, they're flat and don't move much when you press them, but they've got ridges and you can still find your way around, and feel that you have indeed pressed a button. I've taught myself to blind-dial with my Razr in spite of their lack of feedback. I don't think this would be very possible with iPhone (unless maybe some sort of clicking sound was implemented.. but that wouldn't help much).
Everyone knew the first time they used a Razr that the buttons sucked, and that the UI was slow, but it was just so cool and had features most phones didn't at the time, so there's no saying whether the iPhone would really suffer commercially from the touch screen. The price, however... I won't be getting one for the same reason I've never owned other Mac hardware.
What about Hotel California? You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.
Yes, killing badguys is fun but when it comes to physics and the good guy, it can be A LOT OF FUN to just inflict pain on the protaginist.
The scientists in Half-Life instantly come to mind.
Nope, just for making that joke ;-)
Nah, I pretty much agree with you there.. I just thought you were pushing the rubber-band-breaking point a bit much.
Do you just break every rubber band you use every time you use it? You'd only need a couple rubber bands, not a whole bag, and that's still assuming you're so incompetent you can't pull one off and put it back on a few times over the course of your trip without breaking it.
..and securely resting in their own butt.
I think you must be talking about a 5800, not a 6800? I know the FX 5xxx series was horribly half-assedly "DirectX 9 compatible", but I'm pretty sure the 6800 series is 100% DX9 (9.0c even) compatible.. that was one of its main selling points.
Nobody likes black frosting. Consider it an obscene gesture.
And this is why we don't make drug jokes to a crowd like Slashdot...
Nope, but in 1996 Opera had buttons in their browser for each page along the top, which worked EXACTLY LIKE TABS. NetCaptor was just the first to draw them like tabs in their interface. Stop spreading the myth.