My example is Championship Manager, a football/soccer management game with it's fair share of adicted devotees.
the grail is developing your own formation that maximises the strengths of your players and this beat the computer run teams.
Thing is, there is an actual formation that plays on a few design flaws or bugs that means that you just win pretty much all the time. Once you know this you try it and it's true. So you win to yoiu get bored.
then, you start again vowing not to use this 'cheat'. Thing is you know it's there. You are in the middle of a 6 match losing streak and you know that all you have to do is switch formations.
You know you have reached middle age when you ask what is the maximum you are allowed to put into your employer pension per month rather than what is the minimum...
Finding an 'OK' office suite is fine but finding one that completely replicates the entire functionality of MS Office (especially macros, pivot tables etc) is not that easy. The current options are either much slower or as fast but with half the features.
Now it's true that most people dont' use most features but, in any reasonably sized organisation, there will be enough people doing important work using these extra features that will make the transition require like for like feature replacement.
Someone mentioned Crossover Office from Codeweavers. This is an excellent product as it runs Word and Excel perfectly and much faster than Oopen Office on any platform. If MS produced a native version, it would save me having to pay extra for Crossover.
No points for posts that just agree with stuff and it has already been modded up but it's not just in this guy's HO (ITGHO) either - all intranet apps these days use all kinds of windows specific stuff to make web apps more like traditional apps. Some mix and match javascript, vbscript, java and activex to get what they want in a refreshable interface.
This is the first place we need to start curing. Thing is that they will al have to be changed at once because most places now have a mix of webapps internally - so web interfaces from a few different vendors plus the intranet plus the webmail plus plus plus....
MAybe not - the databases are in the csv's excel is acting as a transformation engibe if anything, and pivot tables are just the business.
Theis approach also has a great accessibility factory for competent wired up folks and does not mean putting Access on the desktop (which is not that common)
Actually, Windows doesn't really crash any more, this is really old fashioned fud. I have 2k at home and on vmware at work and it simpply does not crash for regular work. Office, Project, Firefox, Putty, some games, Groupwise etc etc. we have 800 2k desktops and thats not what people ring support with. Not any more since we binned 9x.
So security, yes fine, eula's that won't hold up in court, yes fine. And as for slippage - who cares?
Finally, Office is their main product really, an os is just an os and Office is better than some other suites I have used.
Using Project or MrProject or any other similar app allows you to do something you can't do with simple sort by start or due date type apps. It allows you to stack all your tasks and say when do I have to start this task given all the other stuff I have to do.
PDF's are poor for internal use because they are uneditable without very expensive software. When people pass me a doc they expect me to mark up edits and then maybe pass it on to someone else.
Thats why I use Word under CrossoverOffice on my island.
but then, when Joe Bloggs tries to access his online bank account and fails, then AOL will get known as incompatible. Crazy but true. So why would they want to do that. Every commercial website is built to cope with IE regardless of whether they are standards compliant by the by.
When the next IE comes out, they will al become compliant with that.
"And beyond that, Web-based groupware solutions are superior anyhow in most cases."
No, they are always worse. No keyboard interface, no pressing enter to read and email and escape to leave it and del to delete it. Always clicking, then waiting, then redrawing the screen. No autocomplete addresses. I am just goign to stop now cos this is a very long list.
Then it's download and install but what of the apps that are updated all the time - then you have to wait a while to see them in your downloadable list. Otherwise it's a little bit into the unknown with someone elses build of an rpm.
Although fees and licensing is an issue for sure, it is not/that/ huge compared to the wage bill of most IT organisations - usually 60% of the cost are salaries then WAN etc then mtce then finally capitalised software purchases way down the list.
Not really a function of being poor but the vast non-IT-literate classes get their pcs from PCWorld or Time here in the UK or even Dixons - they normally charge between 600 and 900 quid for a celeron - so thats about 900 USD plus. They will probably buy it on shop credit at 29% and pay if off slowly therefore costing about twice that. Most people do not have the knowledge and practical skills to muck about with upgrades and the like, regardless of how cheap.
Now you're just confusing things. The author is talking about the effect that modern WP system have in interfering with the creative process of pgetting words in your head onto paper (in the end).
Candles vs lightbulbs would have no effect therefore that is a spurious comparison.
I have IE here at work + the google bar, which gives my the right click search, the blog this, the block these popups etc etc.
So they are not cool tricks that are restricted to moz or anything else. They are just standard now across browsers.
Fact is that if we want people to use free software, then the key, unique selling point is that the software is free as in speech. Not particularly in feature sets for desktop apps.
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My example is Championship Manager, a football/soccer management game with it's fair share of adicted devotees.
the grail is developing your own formation that maximises the strengths of your players and this beat the computer run teams.
Thing is, there is an actual formation that plays on a few design flaws or bugs that means that you just win pretty much all the time. Once you know this you try it and it's true. So you win to yoiu get bored.
then, you start again vowing not to use this 'cheat'. Thing is you know it's there. You are in the middle of a 6 match losing streak and you know that all you have to do is switch formations.
takes all the fun out I can tell you.
You know you have reached middle age when you ask what is the maximum you are allowed to put into your employer pension per month rather than what is the minimum ...
Finding an 'OK' office suite is fine but finding one that completely replicates the entire functionality of MS Office (especially macros, pivot tables etc) is not that easy. The current options are either much slower or as fast but with half the features.
Now it's true that most people dont' use most features but, in any reasonably sized organisation, there will be enough people doing important work using these extra features that will make the transition require like for like feature replacement.
Someone mentioned Crossover Office from Codeweavers. This is an excellent product as it runs Word and Excel perfectly and much faster than Oopen Office on any platform. If MS produced a native version, it would save me having to pay extra for Crossover.
Just use google - it's probably where you found the site in the first place :-)
No points for posts that just agree with stuff and it has already been modded up but it's not just in this guy's HO (ITGHO) either - all intranet apps these days use all kinds of windows specific stuff to make web apps more like traditional apps. Some mix and match javascript, vbscript, java and activex to get what they want in a refreshable interface.
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This is the first place we need to start curing. Thing is that they will al have to be changed at once because most places now have a mix of webapps internally - so web interfaces from a few different vendors plus the intranet plus the webmail plus plus plus.
MAybe not - the databases are in the csv's excel is acting as a transformation engibe if anything, and pivot tables are just the business.
Theis approach also has a great accessibility factory for competent wired up folks and does not mean putting Access on the desktop (which is not that common)
J
Actually, Windows doesn't really crash any more, this is really old fashioned fud. I have 2k at home and on vmware at work and it simpply does not crash for regular work. Office, Project, Firefox, Putty, some games, Groupwise etc etc. we have 800 2k desktops and thats not what people ring support with. Not any more since we binned 9x.
So security, yes fine, eula's that won't hold up in court, yes fine. And as for slippage - who cares?
Finally, Office is their main product really, an os is just an os and Office is better than some other suites I have used.
So, just relax a bit. Breathe in.
Using Project or MrProject or any other similar app allows you to do something you can't do with simple sort by start or due date type apps. It allows you to stack all your tasks and say when do I have to start this task given all the other stuff I have to do.
Fab if you really have alot to do.
Actually, you don't need to download Windows, it's usually already installed.
PDF's are poor for internal use because they are uneditable without very expensive software. When people pass me a doc they expect me to mark up edits and then maybe pass it on to someone else.
Thats why I use Word under CrossoverOffice on my island.
"My question is "How did you get IE installed on Linux?""
x office/
Using Crossover Office? Easy.
http://www.codeweavers.com/site/products/c
Or actually "baked" ...
but then, when Joe Bloggs tries to access his online bank account and fails, then AOL will get known as incompatible. Crazy but true. So why would they want to do that. Every commercial website is built to cope with IE regardless of whether they are standards compliant by the by.
When the next IE comes out, they will al become compliant with that.
AOL will just stick with what works the widest.
Not only, as someone else has pointed out, did YOU not read the article but neither did all those folks who modded you up!
Sheesh!
"And beyond that, Web-based groupware solutions are superior anyhow in most cases."
No, they are always worse. No keyboard interface, no pressing enter to read and email and escape to leave it and del to delete it. Always clicking, then waiting, then redrawing the screen. No autocomplete addresses. I am just goign to stop now cos this is a very long list.
Then it's download and install but what of the apps that are updated all the time - then you have to wait a while to see them in your downloadable list. Otherwise it's a little bit into the unknown with someone elses build of an rpm.
Although fees and licensing is an issue for sure, it is not /that/ huge compared to the wage bill of most IT organisations - usually 60% of the cost are salaries then WAN etc then mtce then finally capitalised software purchases way down the list.
Not really a function of being poor but the vast non-IT-literate classes get their pcs from PCWorld or Time here in the UK or even Dixons - they normally charge between 600 and 900 quid for a celeron - so thats about 900 USD plus. They will probably buy it on shop credit at 29% and pay if off slowly therefore costing about twice that. Most people do not have the knowledge and practical skills to muck about with upgrades and the like, regardless of how cheap.
Now you're just confusing things. The author is talking about the effect that modern WP system have in interfering with the creative process of pgetting words in your head onto paper (in the end).
Candles vs lightbulbs would have no effect therefore that is a spurious comparison.
But. From what I see, mostly people just start again rather than review the code (and what, fork?).
In fact both free and non-free software follow this model with whole new applications competing.
So I'm not really disagreeing that competitive processes are at work, just that they are not the sole preserve of free software
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Where most people have to queue to share the village phone let alone download porn.
Picture of an LCAC here including a short .mov of one in action.
>OOo does have slightly better MS Office
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>compatibility,
The article was _specifically_ about this issue
I have IE here at work + the google bar, which gives my the right click search, the blog this, the block these popups etc etc.
So they are not cool tricks that are restricted to moz or anything else. They are just standard now across browsers.
Fact is that if we want people to use free software, then the key, unique selling point is that the software is free as in speech. Not particularly in feature sets for desktop apps.
J