I would need some proof that anyone with an IQ of 300 is in existance. That would put them more than THIRTEEN standard deviations above the mean (m=100, sd=15)!!!! That is so statistically improbable as to be laughable. I need proof.
That said, you do have a good point.
FWIW, most standardized tests of IQ don't reliably measure anyone with an IQ over about 150 or 160 (160=4 std deviations), and the GIGA only requires an IQ of 196. Currently the membership of the Giga society stands at SIX. You should check out the requirements for joining.
to both you and the guy right above you: so my math ain't perfect! Sue me. I'll think about it some more. (runs away embarrased...)
As far as IQ is concerned, I guess you could say that it is discrete, but if I am remembering correctly, the issue is somewhat moot, since the number of discrete items is so high that its REALLY hard to tell the difference. (let me put it this way--whats the difference between a continuous scale and a discrete scale with an infinite number of items?)
(for the humor impaired....nah if you can't figure this one out, you probably won't make the metric conversion either.)
(FWIW, sarin IV is one of the deadliest nerve agents on the planet. It is also stored in large quantities near Richmond KY, where I grew up, hence the alias. If some of you are wondering if I might have been exposed (thus explaining my humor impairment), just remember that if I were ever exposed, I'd be dead. We REALLY can't afford to have the terrorists get hold of this stuff!)
given a population n, there can be n-1 people at median, given a range of 2.
For range of size 3, there can only be n-2 at median. In fact you can say for a population of size n, there is a maximum of n-(x-1) possible individuals exactly at median, where x=range of the distribution.
Now, the only question left about this, is why am I posting such a useless bit of information to/.?
That's all fine and dandy, and to a large degree I think you're right. That said, there is something wrong with a world in which all too often, one is afraid that the police and/or government might do something harmful with your identification.
I don't trust the government, not because I think it is run by bad people, or that anyone there wants to hurt US citizens. On the contrary, I don't trust the gov't because they are responsible for setting their own salaries, and for raising the taxes that pay those salaries. It sounds basic, but the problem is that they have far too much personal interest in high taxes and lots of power (in order to be able to collect those taxes).
It is sad, but I honestly believe that there will come a time when we will no longer have certain freedoms, all in the name of security. That day, unfortunately, is now. We have lost so many freedoms due to security concerns. Unfortunately we live in a country where the vast majority feels that the gov't should take care of them (re: social security, gov't healthcare, welfare, etc.), and have extended this to personal safety (a road we have been on for a long time with things like anti-gun laws and even speeding laws). The further we go down this road, however, the less freedom we have. I personally would rather have more responsibility, and more freedom.
Okay, so give specific references to an educational journal that does not have an interest in demonstrating that one or the other (public vs. private) is better than the other, and I'll roll with that one.
As far as pay is concerned, I know that it varies widely in both sectors. The reasoning behind saying that private schools should be better is the whole idea of competition. Why would any parent spend the extra cash on private school if they were not better than public schools (other than stupid elitism, which I'm not interested in myself)? It doesn't make sense. If a private school sucks, they will go out of business, just like any other company. If a public schools sucks, the gov't will just throw more money into it--they CAN'T just shut it down.
As far as social growth of students, that's not really an issue for private schools any more than it is of public schools.
You mention averages. Perhaps the averages work out similarly, but what are the ranges, the deviatiions, etc. Sorry, but I also don't trust the local paper--unless they happen to have a bias free analyst on staff, which I highly doubt.
As far as products of public schools, I don't have much faith in the system as a whole. Perhaps this is a product of having grown up in a state that is ranked at the bottom of the heap in education. Maybe I would have a different take if I lived in one of the top 5 or 10 education states. But if you live in certain states, then private schools make sense. Growing up in KY, I think that it makes more sense to send your kid to private school.
Have you stopped to consider, for even a moment, that there is the distinct possibility that they might be correct.
I am amazed at all the idiocy (not in reference to you, mind), that is on this forum. It is smart business to save money. Most businesses perceive that outsourcing saves money. Saving money means that the business can either spend more on employees, invest in better equipment, new tech, etc, or just give the shareholders a nice return. If they give it to the shareholders, then those SH's will either spend it or reinvest it. Both of these outcomes will help the economy.
Dead money is very rare. Even sitting in a bank account, money is being used.
Now I realize it doesn't help you now when your job just got cut. Nothing but another job will do that. John Kerry will not alleviate that any more than Bush will. The president will NOT make much difference. Unless the entire congress, senate and white house are all in agreement, there will be no significant change in offshoring practices. This is true for Bush or Kerry, regardless of what you think.
Sorry, you just need to think through this stuff more carefully.
Thank you. It's weird when I hear people lumb libertarians with the right--no one favors business less than libertarians (at least as compared to individual rights).
Sad thing is, though, that the left does that at the same the right is calling libertarians leftist. This is the whole problem with a two party system such as we have here in the US--it makes us think in only 1 dimension, when there are really so many more. It's kinda like wearing glasses that makes everything look like a shade of gray--you forget that there's something called blue or red.
I have to agree, there isn't much difference between the left and the right. It is mostly a matter of where they want to spend your tax dollars. The left plans to spend it on social programs and whatnot, and the right on various big projects (defense budget). But they both want to spend it. Only the libertarians are interested in really just not spending it, and therefore lightening the tax burden. A novel concept, but one that would work if federal spending were cut. Yes, that means that schools don't get as much money, but then again, it allows parents to send their children to private schools, which are better than public schools 9 out of 10 times anyway.
Sorry for the rant, but I find it annoying that I should be called politically "right" just because I live in the US. I personally find it very important to judge each political candidate on their personal merits. Take Bush Jr. for instance. He's not the brightest president we've ever had. He's not got a flawless record, but as far as I can tell, he's basically honest. An idiot, perhaps, but an honest one.
Kerry, like Gore, wouldn't know the truth if you hit him with it.
Does that mean I want Bush as President? Not necessarily, but I don't really want any of the other options either. Personally, I will probably find a write in for this years election, or vote non-two-party. Think of it as a protest against people who want you to believe that there is nothing but gray in this world.
Since I am now doing design (don't look at my personal site--it sucks for now), for a business, I have to think about this stuff, and frankly, I have encountered very little that makes me want to use javascript.
Now, that said, I will commit virtual suicide and admit that I use PHP--and I like it.
seriously, I think somebody has their sarcasm/humor detector broken.
If you modded doug down, think about it this way--it would have been just as funny with almost any other politician's name instead of John Kerry. If you had happened to dislike said politician, mr. moderator, then you probably would have marked it as funny, not flamebait.
for me, it's hilarious. I would have still laughed if he had said bush, but not as hard. Why not? Bush, despite his many other failings, is not known for his reversals of position in the same way that Kerry is. So it's not as funny.
WIth Kerry's name, however, its amusing. Not politically correct, but I don't really think its flamebait either.
I'm saying that if you use the intel compiler (which you may or may not trust) to compile GCC, then it is less likely to be able to insert hacks that will show up in stuff compiled by GCC. Once again, I don't know, but I am speculating.
There is a simple method of getting around what he describes (if I understand his argument well enough--not being a C programmer, I may not, so proceed with that in mind!).
If you compile everything on your system with a compiler to which you have access to the source code, then you should be able to scrutinize these sources. This is similar to the idea of having code that you wrote yourself, only in this case, you need to have access to not just the program's source, but also the compiler's source. In the OSS world, this is possible, which is why it is likely to be more secure.
Think about it like this: You can only implement Thompson's suggestion if you control both the source and the compiler. In a system like Gentoo, or another ports based setup (BSD's come to mind), this is much more difficult, and would have to be evident at a distribution wide level. But in all these systems, you do have access to the code before you even install the first binary. It would be perfectly feasible to: 1. Examine the code before install, and do the first compile with GCC that you trust. This is a serious bootstrap effort, but possible.
2. Examine the code that you install every time you upgrade.
3. If you are uber paranoid, you could use the Intel compiler to compile GCC (or something of that sort), to avoid GCC inserting it's own nastiness. I am, of course, assuming that that is possible, but I don't see why not.
There are ways around the situation Ken Thompson describes, but they take time, effort, and knowledge. I am not technically capable of doing the routine (I'd be dead lost in the code, and I know it), but there are plenty of people who are. Maybe a "trusted" GCC, signed by the reviewer's GPG sigs, would be a worthy effort. It's just a thought.
****Disclaimer: I am not a C programmer. I don't really know what I'm talking about, and shame on you if you don't critique this mentally before accepting my premises. Now, do some thinking!
Even more important--actual password requirements. On 98 all you need to do to get past the password/username prompt is hit escape and you're in. XP at least beats that.
I have to agree that XP is a huge step up from 98SE. I find it to be much more stable, though I have had it hang on shut down, but that's pretty rare, and frequently a hardware problem.
I also like USB 2.0 support, even though none of my peripherals actually use it.
This is, of course, why gpg/pgp is such a great idea--an open source encryption method allows you to look for said back-door. Good luck. I don't think you'll find one.
I do use pgp for my email with certain individuals. Does that likely put me on the 'radar'? Maybe, but if we were all using it, then the gov't would have to rely on other indicators to find suspect emails. Personally, I am in favor of a government that doesn't have the right to look at my information without my permission or a court order. Does this cause a loss in the FBI's ability to gather information? Certainly. Am I willing to deal with that? Absolutely.
I don't know why it is that you feel it necessary to bash any particular religion, especially one that you don't seem to like.
While I can't agree with anyone sending you a hate mail, I do think you are being excessively inflammatory, trollish, and otherwise offensive to a group of people who are trying to live their life the way they feel is best. The goal of proselyting is not to _force_ an idea on anyone, but to allow others to hear your view and hopefully off them information that they did not previously have.
Many people, LDS missionaries (which you oh so politely refer to as 'morons', and obviously have no hatred for whatsoever) included, make the mistake of being overly heavy handed.
As someone who has been involved in missionary work, I find it very disturbing to read accounts like yours. If you don't want to hear the message someone has, then ignore them. If you do, then fine. But I don't see the point in doing what you are doing. It only makes you seem immature.
I do agree with part of your post, however. That there is a huge difference between Asian and American culture. Americans, for the most part, have forgotten how to be polite. We are, by and large, an excessively rude group of people. I am sad to see that the Australians seem to be following in our footsteps (the Europeans are marching lockstep in the same direction too, so don't get on any high horse there). It seems that only the Asians (and not all of them), are maintaining a culture of politeness and civility (at least on the face of it).
Jesus saves. The others take 2d20 crushing damage.
Yes, but does he save for half damage or no damage? It is a very important question...
In all seriousness, however, piracy may or may not be an issue. After all, it does partly depend on how traceable an individual is. If the email address comes at a price (non-free that is), then they will need your credit card info, which means that they could trace any pirates to the source. I wouldn't be caught dead doing things like that.
I suspect that the real reason that this does not occur is because most review type sites are a) not using linux at all, b) cater to a specific audience and c) want to use all the same test suites and benchies that everyone else does, and therefore can't use linux.
Personally, I think its a huge mistake. IF I had the money to start doing these types of reviews, that's exactly what I would do...use linux and bench against ppc as well as x86.
The reason is that linux is multi-architectural, unlike windows, and could give some added insight to the tech field. Furthermore, we could start seeing some tests of 64-bit goodness, and really see how these procs are doing. Even better, we could throw in some other chips, such as the UltraSparc and the Alpha to get a really cool look at how they stack up.
Unfortunately, I don't have the cash. I would take donations, and/or equipment, however...
Don't get your hopes up...the RAM may hold you back unless you run a minimalist wm (xfce4 anyone) under linux. If you run winXP, you should double that.
I believe that there's a number of reasons they don't. First, many of the people who pirate windows would not actually purchase it if they had to. Instead they would start using linux or some other alternative. So doing this could actually hurt them in the long run (after all, every user of linux does hurt MS, since it breeds familiarity with something new).
As for not being allowed to update security, I didn't think that they should be allowed to until just recently. Now I can understand the reasoning. They should be given the update.
Compact flash prices vary widely (.14 USD per MB for a 2GB module or.39 USD per MB for a 64MB model). Currently SATA HDD's cost as little as 0.0007625 USD per MB, by comparison (This is not an average, its just one drive -- a seagate 7200 RPM 160GB drive, so YMMV).
Of course, compared to DDR RAM, compact flash may be cheaper, but for mass storage its not really an option.
I personally love good cooking. It is smart to eat good food. I don't think cheetos is a good way to live. It's like chocolate. Yes you can get cheap chocolate, but if you had a choice between a snickers and a really good turtle brownie with ice cream, which would you rather eat? I'd take the brownie.
So it is with cheetos--yeah, they have some fake cheese, but I'd rather eat something with real cheese (just about anything, really).
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I would need some proof that anyone with an IQ of 300 is in existance. That would put them more than THIRTEEN standard deviations above the mean (m=100, sd=15)!!!! That is so statistically improbable as to be laughable. I need proof.
That said, you do have a good point.
FWIW, most standardized tests of IQ don't reliably measure anyone with an IQ over about 150 or 160 (160=4 std deviations), and the GIGA only requires an IQ of 196. Currently the membership of the Giga society stands at SIX. You should check out the requirements for joining.
Heres a link: The Giga Society.
to both you and the guy right above you: so my math ain't perfect! Sue me. I'll think about it some more. (runs away embarrased...)
As far as IQ is concerned, I guess you could say that it is discrete, but if I am remembering correctly, the issue is somewhat moot, since the number of discrete items is so high that its REALLY hard to tell the difference. (let me put it this way--whats the difference between a continuous scale and a discrete scale with an infinite number of items?)
not as my parents tell it...
(for the humor impaired....nah if you can't figure this one out, you probably won't make the metric conversion either.)
(FWIW, sarin IV is one of the deadliest nerve agents on the planet. It is also stored in large quantities near Richmond KY, where I grew up, hence the alias. If some of you are wondering if I might have been exposed (thus explaining my humor impairment), just remember that if I were ever exposed, I'd be dead. We REALLY can't afford to have the terrorists get hold of this stuff!)
given a population n, there can be n-1 people at median, given a range of 2.
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For range of size 3, there can only be n-2 at median. In fact you can say for a population of size n, there is a maximum of n-(x-1) possible individuals exactly at median, where x=range of the distribution.
Now, the only question left about this, is why am I posting such a useless bit of information to
That's all fine and dandy, and to a large degree I think you're right. That said, there is something wrong with a world in which all too often, one is afraid that the police and/or government might do something harmful with your identification.
I don't trust the government, not because I think it is run by bad people, or that anyone there wants to hurt US citizens. On the contrary, I don't trust the gov't because they are responsible for setting their own salaries, and for raising the taxes that pay those salaries. It sounds basic, but the problem is that they have far too much personal interest in high taxes and lots of power (in order to be able to collect those taxes).
It is sad, but I honestly believe that there will come a time when we will no longer have certain freedoms, all in the name of security. That day, unfortunately, is now. We have lost so many freedoms due to security concerns. Unfortunately we live in a country where the vast majority feels that the gov't should take care of them (re: social security, gov't healthcare, welfare, etc.), and have extended this to personal safety (a road we have been on for a long time with things like anti-gun laws and even speeding laws). The further we go down this road, however, the less freedom we have. I personally would rather have more responsibility, and more freedom.
Okay, so give specific references to an educational journal that does not have an interest in demonstrating that one or the other (public vs. private) is better than the other, and I'll roll with that one.
As far as pay is concerned, I know that it varies widely in both sectors. The reasoning behind saying that private schools should be better is the whole idea of competition. Why would any parent spend the extra cash on private school if they were not better than public schools (other than stupid elitism, which I'm not interested in myself)? It doesn't make sense. If a private school sucks, they will go out of business, just like any other company. If a public schools sucks, the gov't will just throw more money into it--they CAN'T just shut it down.
As far as social growth of students, that's not really an issue for private schools any more than it is of public schools.
You mention averages. Perhaps the averages work out similarly, but what are the ranges, the deviatiions, etc. Sorry, but I also don't trust the local paper--unless they happen to have a bias free analyst on staff, which I highly doubt.
As far as products of public schools, I don't have much faith in the system as a whole. Perhaps this is a product of having grown up in a state that is ranked at the bottom of the heap in education. Maybe I would have a different take if I lived in one of the top 5 or 10 education states. But if you live in certain states, then private schools make sense. Growing up in KY, I think that it makes more sense to send your kid to private school.
Have you stopped to consider, for even a moment, that there is the distinct possibility that they might be correct.
I am amazed at all the idiocy (not in reference to you, mind), that is on this forum. It is smart business to save money. Most businesses perceive that outsourcing saves money. Saving money means that the business can either spend more on employees, invest in better equipment, new tech, etc, or just give the shareholders a nice return. If they give it to the shareholders, then those SH's will either spend it or reinvest it. Both of these outcomes will help the economy.
Dead money is very rare. Even sitting in a bank account, money is being used.
Now I realize it doesn't help you now when your job just got cut. Nothing but another job will do that. John Kerry will not alleviate that any more than Bush will. The president will NOT make much difference. Unless the entire congress, senate and white house are all in agreement, there will be no significant change in offshoring practices. This is true for Bush or Kerry, regardless of what you think.
Sorry, you just need to think through this stuff more carefully.
Thank you. It's weird when I hear people lumb libertarians with the right--no one favors business less than libertarians (at least as compared to individual rights).
Sad thing is, though, that the left does that at the same the right is calling libertarians leftist. This is the whole problem with a two party system such as we have here in the US--it makes us think in only 1 dimension, when there are really so many more. It's kinda like wearing glasses that makes everything look like a shade of gray--you forget that there's something called blue or red.
I have to agree, there isn't much difference between the left and the right. It is mostly a matter of where they want to spend your tax dollars. The left plans to spend it on social programs and whatnot, and the right on various big projects (defense budget). But they both want to spend it. Only the libertarians are interested in really just not spending it, and therefore lightening the tax burden. A novel concept, but one that would work if federal spending were cut. Yes, that means that schools don't get as much money, but then again, it allows parents to send their children to private schools, which are better than public schools 9 out of 10 times anyway.
Sorry for the rant, but I find it annoying that I should be called politically "right" just because I live in the US. I personally find it very important to judge each political candidate on their personal merits. Take Bush Jr. for instance. He's not the brightest president we've ever had. He's not got a flawless record, but as far as I can tell, he's basically honest. An idiot, perhaps, but an honest one.
Kerry, like Gore, wouldn't know the truth if you hit him with it.
Does that mean I want Bush as President? Not necessarily, but I don't really want any of the other options either. Personally, I will probably find a write in for this years election, or vote non-two-party. Think of it as a protest against people who want you to believe that there is nothing but gray in this world.
amen and amen!
Since I am now doing design (don't look at my personal site--it sucks for now), for a business, I have to think about this stuff, and frankly, I have encountered very little that makes me want to use javascript.
Now, that said, I will commit virtual suicide and admit that I use PHP--and I like it.
I think its funny....
seriously, I think somebody has their sarcasm/humor detector broken.
If you modded doug down, think about it this way--it would have been just as funny with almost any other politician's name instead of John Kerry. If you had happened to dislike said politician, mr. moderator, then you probably would have marked it as funny, not flamebait.
for me, it's hilarious. I would have still laughed if he had said bush, but not as hard. Why not? Bush, despite his many other failings, is not known for his reversals of position in the same way that Kerry is. So it's not as funny.
WIth Kerry's name, however, its amusing. Not politically correct, but I don't really think its flamebait either.
I'm saying that if you use the intel compiler (which you may or may not trust) to compile GCC, then it is less likely to be able to insert hacks that will show up in stuff compiled by GCC. Once again, I don't know, but I am speculating.
I'm not that paranoid--just making an argument.
There is a simple method of getting around what he describes (if I understand his argument well enough--not being a C programmer, I may not, so proceed with that in mind!).
If you compile everything on your system with a compiler to which you have access to the source code, then you should be able to scrutinize these sources. This is similar to the idea of having code that you wrote yourself, only in this case, you need to have access to not just the program's source, but also the compiler's source. In the OSS world, this is possible, which is why it is likely to be more secure.
Think about it like this: You can only implement Thompson's suggestion if you control both the source and the compiler. In a system like Gentoo, or another ports based setup (BSD's come to mind), this is much more difficult, and would have to be evident at a distribution wide level. But in all these systems, you do have access to the code before you even install the first binary. It would be perfectly feasible to:
1. Examine the code before install, and do the first compile with GCC that you trust. This is a serious bootstrap effort, but possible.
2. Examine the code that you install every time you upgrade.
3. If you are uber paranoid, you could use the Intel compiler to compile GCC (or something of that sort), to avoid GCC inserting it's own nastiness. I am, of course, assuming that that is possible, but I don't see why not.
There are ways around the situation Ken Thompson describes, but they take time, effort, and knowledge. I am not technically capable of doing the routine (I'd be dead lost in the code, and I know it), but there are plenty of people who are. Maybe a "trusted" GCC, signed by the reviewer's GPG sigs, would be a worthy effort. It's just a thought.
****Disclaimer: I am not a C programmer. I don't really know what I'm talking about, and shame on you if you don't critique this mentally before accepting my premises. Now, do some thinking!
Even more important--actual password requirements. On 98 all you need to do to get past the password/username prompt is hit escape and you're in. XP at least beats that.
I have to agree that XP is a huge step up from 98SE. I find it to be much more stable, though I have had it hang on shut down, but that's pretty rare, and frequently a hardware problem.
I also like USB 2.0 support, even though none of my peripherals actually use it.
Okay, mr. Delta-9, that is uber-paranoid.
This is, of course, why gpg/pgp is such a great idea--an open source encryption method allows you to look for said back-door. Good luck. I don't think you'll find one.
I do use pgp for my email with certain individuals. Does that likely put me on the 'radar'? Maybe, but if we were all using it, then the gov't would have to rely on other indicators to find suspect emails. Personally, I am in favor of a government that doesn't have the right to look at my information without my permission or a court order. Does this cause a loss in the FBI's ability to gather information? Certainly. Am I willing to deal with that? Absolutely.
I don't know why it is that you feel it necessary to bash any particular religion, especially one that you don't seem to like.
While I can't agree with anyone sending you a hate mail, I do think you are being excessively inflammatory, trollish, and otherwise offensive to a group of people who are trying to live their life the way they feel is best. The goal of proselyting is not to _force_ an idea on anyone, but to allow others to hear your view and hopefully off them information that they did not previously have.
Many people, LDS missionaries (which you oh so politely refer to as 'morons', and obviously have no hatred for whatsoever) included, make the mistake of being overly heavy handed.
As someone who has been involved in missionary work, I find it very disturbing to read accounts like yours. If you don't want to hear the message someone has, then ignore them. If you do, then fine. But I don't see the point in doing what you are doing. It only makes you seem immature.
I do agree with part of your post, however. That there is a huge difference between Asian and American culture. Americans, for the most part, have forgotten how to be polite. We are, by and large, an excessively rude group of people. I am sad to see that the Australians seem to be following in our footsteps (the Europeans are marching lockstep in the same direction too, so don't get on any high horse there). It seems that only the Asians (and not all of them), are maintaining a culture of politeness and civility (at least on the face of it).
I do hope you have a wonderful day, however.
Yes, but does he save for half damage or no damage? It is a very important question...
In all seriousness, however, piracy may or may not be an issue. After all, it does partly depend on how traceable an individual is. If the email address comes at a price (non-free that is), then they will need your credit card info, which means that they could trace any pirates to the source. I wouldn't be caught dead doing things like that.
I suspect that the real reason that this does not occur is because most review type sites are a) not using linux at all, b) cater to a specific audience and c) want to use all the same test suites and benchies that everyone else does, and therefore can't use linux.
Personally, I think its a huge mistake. IF I had the money to start doing these types of reviews, that's exactly what I would do...use linux and bench against ppc as well as x86.
The reason is that linux is multi-architectural, unlike windows, and could give some added insight to the tech field. Furthermore, we could start seeing some tests of 64-bit goodness, and really see how these procs are doing. Even better, we could throw in some other chips, such as the UltraSparc and the Alpha to get a really cool look at how they stack up.
Unfortunately, I don't have the cash. I would take donations, and/or equipment, however...
Yes, it was dreamworks.
did you miss shrek? If so watch it...I still hesitate to let my kids watch it.
Don't get your hopes up...the RAM may hold you back unless you run a minimalist wm (xfce4 anyone) under linux. If you run winXP, you should double that.
Perhaps, but I happen to like the way nvidia actually supplies current drivers for linux
I believe that there's a number of reasons they don't. First, many of the people who pirate windows would not actually purchase it if they had to. Instead they would start using linux or some other alternative. So doing this could actually hurt them in the long run (after all, every user of linux does hurt MS, since it breeds familiarity with something new).
As for not being allowed to update security, I didn't think that they should be allowed to until just recently. Now I can understand the reasoning. They should be given the update.
Cheap? Do the math.
.39 USD per MB for a 64MB model). Currently SATA HDD's cost as little as 0.0007625 USD per MB, by comparison (This is not an average, its just one drive -- a seagate 7200 RPM 160GB drive, so YMMV).
Compact flash prices vary widely (.14 USD per MB for a 2GB module or
Of course, compared to DDR RAM, compact flash may be cheaper, but for mass storage its not really an option.
So this is OT, but hey!
I personally love good cooking. It is smart to eat good food. I don't think cheetos is a good way to live. It's like chocolate. Yes you can get cheap chocolate, but if you had a choice between a snickers and a really good turtle brownie with ice cream, which would you rather eat? I'd take the brownie.
So it is with cheetos--yeah, they have some fake cheese, but I'd rather eat something with real cheese (just about anything, really).
Food is important.