In a way, you are right. I'd like to thank all the open source programmers, tests, supports, etc as they are the one who paid with their time and money to make Linux possible.
No, not really. I downloaded them at my work (we are starting to use Linux servers) and didn't really have to even pay for the CD-Rs! I guess my friend's did have to invest less than $1 worth in CD-Rs when I let them copy. Besides, even if I downled the images from home, ISP expenses are fixed cost, so I pay the same amount no matter what. And I didn't get the home connection to download Linux ISO images.
One more thing to add, you can use the downloaded versions of Linux distros for commerical purposes but you can't with the cheap download version of Sol. for Intel.
Solaris for Intel isn't really free. First, you'll have to pay to download it. Second, the "free" version has restrictions, as it is restricted to uniprocessor machines and you can't use it for commerical purposes.
If you've done your research, you'll know that Linux kernel is not bulletproof and there has been patches out for the Linux kernel.
It would be unfair to call vulnerabilities for Apache/MySQL/Any other open source programs for Windows are Windows vulnerabilities just as it would be unfair to call vulnerabilities for Apache/MySQL/Any other open source programs for "Linux" and call them Linux vulnerabilities. If I write 1,000 shitty programs full of security holes and if they can run on *BSD, does that mean that vunlerabilities for *BSD increased by 1,000?
"For the record, I'm also a BSD user."
For the sake of other *BSD users I'd say you are a MS user pretending to be a BSD user to start a flame war. If you are a true BSD user, you should've known that kernels can have exploits as well.
You know it must be true when Sun says Solaris is better. Expect for the Intel version, since they admitted that it sucked. I always buy Sun branded underware, and nothing wipes your ass better can the Sun Solaris, Toilet Paper Edition(TM).
1. Treat sendmail vulnerabilities as Linux vulerabilities because sendmail can run on Linux.
2. Treat OpenSSH vulnerabilities as Linux vulerabilities because OpenSSH can run on Linux.
3. Treat mySQL vulnerabilities as Linux vulerabilities because MySQL can run on Linux.
4. Treat lsh vulnerabilities as Linux vulerabilities because lsh can run on Linux.
5. Treat all open source software vulnerabilities as Linux vulerabilities because Linux is open source.
6. Double counting "Linux" vulnerabilities by counting all the patches put out by different distros.
7. Ignorant of the fact that Linux itself is not an operating system. Yes, that means that KDE and GNOME are not Linux. In fact, they are not operating systems, either.
I third that. You don't have to be a coder to contribute to open source projects. If you can't code, you can still contribute by donating cash (tax deductable in most cases!), setting up mirrors, and/or form user groups and provide free support.
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"Stop your bitching and read up,"
Do you really expect slashdotters to do some research before posting?
You are right about my wealthy friend and im not squandering his money. One of my friend is a loan officer and he tells me that there are guys who make $100,000+ a year that come in for emergency loan because they quander all their money and live paycheck to paycheck.
Your statement about the easy credit is true but they have no one but themselves to blame, otherwise it will be same as saying that it's McDonalds fault that some people are fat.
"This prevents the middle class from being able to buy income producing assets."
Can you tell me why people in middle class can by nice home entertainment systems and computers but not be able to buy income producing assets? One wealthy person I know of drives a rusty old Toyota truck. He can easily buy a nice new mega sized truck, but instead, he invests his free money.
Take a look at the gaming articles on slashdot. There are plenty of slashdotters who spend $$$$ on high end gaming machines, yet bitch because rich is getting richer. When you spend $50 a pop on games, aren't you the one that's making the rich richer?
I didn't know Gates and Dell started their companies with nine-figure capital and a staff of 200. I'm not sure about Gates, but I believe Dell started out with $1000. Maybe you should limit playing Evercrack and start doing some research.
I think that some people chose to bash Windows while others bash Microsoft as whole. For example, slammer is not a Windows vulnerability but it is a Microsoft product vulnerability. So while it is not fair to bash Windows for slammer, it is fair to bash Microsoft for slammer (esp. for their patch that negated the earlier patch). I guess it is all about how you word it.
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In a way, you are right. I'd like to thank all the open source programmers, tests, supports, etc as they are the one who paid with their time and money to make Linux possible.
No, not really. I downloaded them at my work (we are starting to use Linux servers) and didn't really have to even pay for the CD-Rs! I guess my friend's did have to invest less than $1 worth in CD-Rs when I let them copy. Besides, even if I downled the images from home, ISP expenses are fixed cost, so I pay the same amount no matter what. And I didn't get the home connection to download Linux ISO images.
One more thing to add, you can use the downloaded versions of Linux distros for commerical purposes but you can't with the cheap download version of Sol. for Intel.
I don't remember having to pay anything to download Red Hat, Debian, Slackware, or Mandrake.
Solaris for Intel isn't really free. First, you'll have to pay to download it. Second, the "free" version has restrictions, as it is restricted to uniprocessor machines and you can't use it for commerical purposes.
"Answer? It can't. It's a kernel."
If you've done your research, you'll know that Linux kernel is not bulletproof and there has been patches out for the Linux kernel.
It would be unfair to call vulnerabilities for Apache/MySQL/Any other open source programs for Windows are Windows vulnerabilities just as it would be unfair to call vulnerabilities for Apache/MySQL/Any other open source programs for "Linux" and call them Linux vulnerabilities. If I write 1,000 shitty programs full of security holes and if they can run on *BSD, does that mean that vunlerabilities for *BSD increased by 1,000?
"For the record, I'm also a BSD user."
For the sake of other *BSD users I'd say you are a MS user pretending to be a BSD user to start a flame war. If you are a true BSD user, you should've known that kernels can have exploits as well.
You know it must be true when Sun says Solaris is better. Expect for the Intel version, since they admitted that it sucked. I always buy Sun branded underware, and nothing wipes your ass better can the Sun Solaris, Toilet Paper Edition(TM).
1. Treat sendmail vulnerabilities as Linux vulerabilities because sendmail can run on Linux.
2. Treat OpenSSH vulnerabilities as Linux vulerabilities because OpenSSH can run on Linux.
3. Treat mySQL vulnerabilities as Linux vulerabilities because MySQL can run on Linux.
4. Treat lsh vulnerabilities as Linux vulerabilities because lsh can run on Linux.
5. Treat all open source software vulnerabilities as Linux vulerabilities because Linux is open source.
6. Double counting "Linux" vulnerabilities by counting all the patches put out by different distros.
7. Ignorant of the fact that Linux itself is not an operating system. Yes, that means that KDE and GNOME are not Linux. In fact, they are not operating systems, either.
Only problem is that most people will blow their share of million dollars away and we will be back to square one with rich vs. poor situation again.
I third that. You don't have to be a coder to contribute to open source projects. If you can't code, you can still contribute by donating cash (tax deductable in most cases!), setting up mirrors, and/or form user groups and provide free support.
"Stop your bitching and read up,"
Do you really expect slashdotters to do some research before posting?
I would think that only reason why China would be interested in this is for military purposes.
You are right about my wealthy friend and im not squandering his money. One of my friend is a loan officer and he tells me that there are guys who make $100,000+ a year that come in for emergency loan because they quander all their money and live paycheck to paycheck.
Your statement about the easy credit is true but they have no one but themselves to blame, otherwise it will be same as saying that it's McDonalds fault that some people are fat.
IANAL, but this is indeed funny.
If that's the case, go buy some Govt. bonds or stocks and share in on that interest.
"This prevents the middle class from being able to buy income producing assets."
Can you tell me why people in middle class can by nice home entertainment systems and computers but not be able to buy income producing assets? One wealthy person I know of drives a rusty old Toyota truck. He can easily buy a nice new mega sized truck, but instead, he invests his free money.
Take a look at the gaming articles on slashdot. There are plenty of slashdotters who spend $$$$ on high end gaming machines, yet bitch because rich is getting richer. When you spend $50 a pop on games, aren't you the one that's making the rich richer?
He's not being cold, he's being real. If you give an average slashdotter $1000 what do you think he'll do with it?
1. Feed the hungry.
2. Buy a phat gaming machine.
Come on, tell the truth. We all know that Shakespeare copied Hamlet out of SCO's System V source code.
1. Nazis invaded mainland Russia
2. Otherwise, they would've been content sitting on their asses.
2. How about the fine job Russia did with the East Germany?
This just shows that enough public backlash can change the minds of politicians.
More Americans would have been required to serve but they fled to Canada.
How about 500,000 US Military deaths in WWII vs. 39,000 for Canada?
Since you can run Linux on top of Windows, that'll make all Linux "apps" Windows apps, too?
I didn't know Gates and Dell started their companies with nine-figure capital and a staff of 200. I'm not sure about Gates, but I believe Dell started out with $1000. Maybe you should limit playing Evercrack and start doing some research.
So you are saying that mysql is a Linux "app" even though it runs on Linux, BSD, UNIX, and Windows?
I think that some people chose to bash Windows while others bash Microsoft as whole. For example, slammer is not a Windows vulnerability but it is a Microsoft product vulnerability. So while it is not fair to bash Windows for slammer, it is fair to bash Microsoft for slammer (esp. for their patch that negated the earlier patch). I guess it is all about how you word it.