The first conversation, the first paragraph, if true is a cause for disbarment proceedings at a minimum and probably criminal as well. At least to the point where you could get someone to inquire into it. Get the person's name and let them know you are contacting the State Bar to file an action. Then let them know you are calling the State AG, Fraud div. Then let them know you WILL put something online and you WILL trash their reputation and it will wind up being the most expensive few dollars that company ever screwed someone out of.
When someone goes nutz like that over the phone, I've found that just laughing at them seems to work.
That's what will make everyone happy. This way the ESPN and HBO and Showtime can rape us on the charges, the soccermoms get to feel noble and all protecting the children and shit and the do-gooders get to pretend it all magically evaporated. I really don't see a downside. Wouldn't YOU pay extra for for Celebrity Fear Factor xTreme reruns where they eat rotten horse balls?
That's really the point. Getting a years late woefully problematic blob of code out de dawr early so it's even more rich with bugs and collapsing goodness is not actually an advantage.
But people will say it is because Win Nerds are typically disconnected from customer service and business reality on this point.
Hell it's borderline unethical to release early if you know it's broken just like sending poorly tested drugs out in the world.
Since when is Cray on the bleeding edge of anything? Since Seymour Cray ran things. Sorry but the Cray name doesn't have any cachet any more and no one cares. And Cray's technogical guts barely put them in the Top-500 list compared to all the others. So let MS have 'Cray'.
Because I work for one of the largest IT service vendors in the world and we can't move jobs there fast enough. Already our largest single site is there and in the next 3 years the total company employment will be the largest of any of ours in the world. And we are a US based company.
Although in the longer run we see Indian employers themselves outsourcing to Vietnam, Bangladesh and Malaysia. Not so much China though.
It's November 22. They have to move several MILLION of these in the next 30 days before sales fall off. Retailers who can't sell it out won't carry it. So of course it's hyped to the max. It's the best console ever, it's the greatest gadget in the world, it will make you taller, it will get you laid, it comes in 3 flavors, etc....
Once worked with a high functioning austistic named Chester (Cheddy) Abramowitz who typically coded COBOL as a monothlithic bloc from col 6-80 with no spaces, breaks, indents or lines. Moreover his dataset names were things like MASTER.BATE
Consumer advocates need to apply some pressure to the vendors to slow down the upgrade cycle and sink some of that money into better manageability, usability and so one. For instance I would gladly give up a piece of my CPU for hardware crypto and authentication or a service processor that maintains the rest of the machine and software etc to do all those 'fake upgrades'.
While most the denizens of Geek-Nerdistan Slashdotania are busy pouring over websites to eek that last 0.14% performance out of their machines most people don't worry that much about it. I can't say for example that anyone I know who isn't a Geek ever deals with any computer problem in any way other than turning the machine off and going away for a while. Not the kind of people who obsess over performance. The point is that most of us have been sold a bill of goods. A performance level that is as irrelvant as buying a Ferrari that you will never drive drive higher than 2nd of 7 gears.
In terms of real world performance. 95% of all consumers wouldn't know the difference and if you told them they could increase the speed of their PC by 50% they probably wouldn't care. Or, if they did they would say that the result isn't good enough.
Seriously - I used to work mightily to run Linux on the desktop but in this Windows uber alles shop it gradually became less and less relevant. Most of our corporate applications are coded specifically for Windows, anyway. Hell most of our stuff wont work with non IE browsers. So just getting application parity was a bear.
And then they decided to roll out a quasi-managed desktop which basically amounts to continuous on line health checks and audits and reports going up to Big Brain Central with all sorts of red check marks for the things YOU'RE not compliant to whether or not those are relevant things for Linux. It's their machine, it's their management, but it's YOUR problem.
So I gave up. I'll have a nice compliant chubby resource choked 'managed' up the ass Windows standard client and at least now when something goes badly in the ditch I can just tell my manager "Shit that build blew up on me again, buncha things don't work so I'll be out of pocket for a few days."
My company finds that is an effective, economic and practical use of my time and their money and I honestly am done arguing this point with them.
You could put in your EULA that the customer has to give you his daughter's hand in marriage too. EULAs are not valid if they break the law. And requiring someone to harm themselves is breaking the law.
You can't force something on someone unbeknownst to them and then outlaw any possibility they may have to find out about it. Someone banning spyware would be harming ALL the OTHER software on the machine. They can't legally do that. They're not the government.
But a generation raised on a spoonfed diet of the People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn, it doesn't amaze me.
Say for example you have a brand new stem cell treatment methodology that can cure Parkinson's. But the 'ethics' of some people stand in the way of using it because they don't feel its in line with their values and their morality. It 'exploits' someone. Still want to erect that strawman?
In either case what's clear is that if that stem cell work doesn't go on here then it can go to South Korea which doesn't have the same ethical concerns about it. Ergo capitalism is neither moral nor immoral.
In other words, people SHOULD NOT look to capitalism to solve ethical or moral questions.
Might not be as reliable as clipper ship either. I fail to see the significance of an artificially encumbered economy as a rationale for saying it makes no sense on its face.
See car companies could make the economics work just like we could make a plausible economic rationale for nationwide high quality rail service. Guess who does all the studies that say it makes no sense? Car companies, oil companie and the road builders.
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If thine eye offend thee pluck it the hell out. Divestment movements are built for this. But I as a shareholder, watching you demand they harm my investment, well I'd like to come to your house and burn it down. Or better yet, you can pay for my kid's college education.
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The first conversation, the first paragraph, if true is a cause for disbarment proceedings at a minimum and probably criminal as well. At least to the point where you could get someone to inquire into it. Get the person's name and let them know you are contacting the State Bar to file an action. Then let them know you are calling the State AG, Fraud div. Then let them know you WILL put something online and you WILL trash their reputation and it will wind up being the most expensive few dollars that company ever screwed someone out of.
When someone goes nutz like that over the phone, I've found that just laughing at them seems to work.
That's what will make everyone happy. This way the ESPN and HBO and Showtime can rape us on the charges, the soccermoms get to feel noble and all protecting the children and shit and the do-gooders get to pretend it all magically evaporated. I really don't see a downside. Wouldn't YOU pay extra for for Celebrity Fear Factor xTreme reruns where they eat rotten horse balls?
Which sux vis a vis performance.
What's wrong with being conservative and cautious as opposed to MS which thinks your hard drive ist their sandbox?
That's really the point. Getting a years late woefully problematic blob of code out de dawr early so it's even more rich with bugs and collapsing goodness is not actually an advantage.
But people will say it is because Win Nerds are typically disconnected from customer service and business reality on this point.
Hell it's borderline unethical to release early if you know it's broken just like sending poorly tested drugs out in the world.
There I said it. Now mod me down you clonebots.
Since when is Cray on the bleeding edge of anything? Since Seymour Cray ran things. Sorry but the Cray name doesn't have any cachet any more and no one cares. And Cray's technogical guts barely put them in the Top-500 list compared to all the others. So let MS have 'Cray'.
Because I work for one of the largest IT service vendors in the world and we can't move jobs there fast enough. Already our largest single site is there and in the next 3 years the total company employment will be the largest of any of ours in the world. And we are a US based company.
Although in the longer run we see Indian employers themselves outsourcing to Vietnam, Bangladesh and Malaysia. Not so much China though.
stop talking shit - I couldn't give a fuck if it was MS or MartianSoft so STFU
Only outlaws will have office supplies.
It's November 22. They have to move several MILLION of these in the next 30 days before sales fall off. Retailers who can't sell it out won't carry it. So of course it's hyped to the max. It's the best console ever, it's the greatest gadget in the world, it will make you taller, it will get you laid, it comes in 3 flavors, etc....
Once worked with a high functioning austistic named Chester (Cheddy) Abramowitz who typically coded COBOL as a monothlithic bloc from col 6-80 with no spaces, breaks, indents or lines. Moreover his dataset names were things like MASTER.BATE
It kept him employed.
Consumer advocates need to apply some pressure to the vendors to slow down the upgrade cycle and sink some of that money into better manageability, usability and so one. For instance I would gladly give up a piece of my CPU for hardware crypto and authentication or a service processor that maintains the rest of the machine and software etc to do all those 'fake upgrades'.
While most the denizens of Geek-Nerdistan Slashdotania are busy pouring over websites to eek that last 0.14% performance out of their machines most people don't worry that much about it. I can't say for example that anyone I know who isn't a Geek ever deals with any computer problem in any way other than turning the machine off and going away for a while. Not the kind of people who obsess over performance. The point is that most of us have been sold a bill of goods. A performance level that is as irrelvant as buying a Ferrari that you will never drive drive higher than 2nd of 7 gears.
In terms of real world performance. 95% of all consumers wouldn't know the difference and if you told them they could increase the speed of their PC by 50% they probably wouldn't care. Or, if they did they would say that the result isn't good enough.
If someone told me they discovered a new continent I would not be more impressed.
Seriously - I used to work mightily to run Linux on the desktop but in this Windows uber alles shop it gradually became less and less relevant. Most of our corporate applications are coded specifically for Windows, anyway. Hell most of our stuff wont work with non IE browsers. So just getting application parity was a bear.
And then they decided to roll out a quasi-managed desktop which basically amounts to continuous on line health checks and audits and reports going up to Big Brain Central with all sorts of red check marks for the things YOU'RE not compliant to whether or not those are relevant things for Linux. It's their machine, it's their management, but it's YOUR problem.
So I gave up. I'll have a nice compliant chubby resource choked 'managed' up the ass Windows standard client and at least now when something goes badly in the ditch I can just tell my manager "Shit that build blew up on me again, buncha things don't work so I'll be out of pocket for a few days."
My company finds that is an effective, economic and practical use of my time and their money and I honestly am done arguing this point with them.
You could put in your EULA that the customer has to give you his daughter's hand in marriage too. EULAs are not valid if they break the law. And requiring someone to harm themselves is breaking the law.
You can't force something on someone unbeknownst to them and then outlaw any possibility they may have to find out about it. Someone banning spyware would be harming ALL the OTHER software on the machine. They can't legally do that. They're not the government.
But a generation raised on a spoonfed diet of the People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn, it doesn't amaze me.
Say for example you have a brand new stem cell treatment methodology that can cure Parkinson's. But the 'ethics' of some people stand in the way of using it because they don't feel its in line with their values and their morality. It 'exploits' someone. Still want to erect that strawman?
In either case what's clear is that if that stem cell work doesn't go on here then it can go to South Korea which doesn't have the same ethical concerns about it. Ergo capitalism is neither moral nor immoral.
In other words, people SHOULD NOT look to capitalism to solve ethical or moral questions.
How much sense does it make to jump in the 4 door V10 truck to go 3 miles to get another 12 pack?
Might not be as reliable as clipper ship either. I fail to see the significance of an artificially encumbered economy as a rationale for saying it makes no sense on its face.
See car companies could make the economics work just like we could make a plausible economic rationale for nationwide high quality rail service. Guess who does all the studies that say it makes no sense? Car companies, oil companie and the road builders.
And the panic mongers are just that.
And for every single one of your fuzzy puppy issues I can find a benefit.
If thine eye offend thee pluck it the hell out. Divestment movements are built for this. But I as a shareholder, watching you demand they harm my investment, well I'd like to come to your house and burn it down. Or better yet, you can pay for my kid's college education.
Leave YOUR morality at the door, thank you.