Er, I guess you don't know how 'peer' sharing works and how that invalidates all three of your points. They knew what they were doing, and they were doing it.
Chairman of Boston University's Computer Science Department went to bat -- as an expert witness -- for the BU students
What does some limp-wrist academic testify to as an expert - 'Yes, students are ok to download copywritten work because I read on the slashdot that Information is Free and it is only taking money from evil labels not from artists. Why, your honor, do CDs cost 12.99 in stores when they cost only pennies to produce!'
No, I have 7% body fat and you can count my abs. I do triathlons (iron distance and shorter), marathons, and hit the gym at least three times a week. But my weight swings as much as 10 lbs a day and at 5'9" I think it says I'm overweight when I hit 165 which is where I tend to max out at during the day after the gym (when I'm sucking down water and after I've eaten 2nd lunch).
BMI is a pretty useless measure of someone's health.
Aside from a select few, it's actually a pretty good indicator of people who are overweight. There are a few muscled types who show up as overwieight/obese (I'm one of them) that have very low BF and high muscle mass. But for most of you, if BMI says you are obese, you are obese and need to step away from the cookie.
Inviting some idiot to your place for a sting is completely different.
Wow - great apology/mistatement for being child molestor.
Yes, at DEFCON they ran some chick off the premises (and acted like they'd never seen a girl in the process), but she didn't do anything illegal under any definition. There were many bloggers there no registered as press either.
Totally cool to run her back to Englewood Cliffs. But I wonder - I'm sure almost all of those folks have blogs - and many will mention DF15 on the blog. Did they all have to get press passes, too?
Wow, such a respectable response to getting 'abused' by the media and missing out on your 'date' with an 11 year old boy.
Maybe NAMBLA should buy advertising here since they have so many defenders against legitemate and long-since legal sting operations. South Carolina's atty gen's office and many others have been running these for years. If only all of them had the decency to put a bullet in their head like that one guy did....
Here's a tip - go to Thialand instead of around the corner.
In short, the arguments of distributors, rather than producers or consumers.
Typical argument of media theifs that they aren't stealing from the producers. WRONG. The distributors work as agents of the producers. It's so lame and immature - you sound like a petulent child making stupid arguments about why they should get to smoke pot.
You realize that it is in their interest to sell them at as low a price as they can as the attach rate + XBL transactions are where they will make their money. There are some sensitive curves involved here and MS has the market research; we do not.
Don't be so obtuse in thinking you are smarter than the business people at EA, MS Games, etc.
First, MS and the publishers both know if you playing the demo resulted in a sale of the game. They will know the exact conversion rates (assuming you got the demo from XBL.)
Also, realize that game developers currently PAY OXM to put the games on their disks, not the other way around. It's doubful that XBL will be allowed to hinder distribution of the developers games - especially since MS makes more money off the sale of a game than $2.50.
The fee to consumer to play demos pits OXM/XBL's line item against MS/Publishers. And since MS owns XBL and oversees OXM and make money the same way the publishers do, you can forget about paying for demos off of XBL.
I think they went with small size at the expense of having a higher cost. What if they had not used flash memory and went with a traditional HD instead. What if they went with a slightly larger MB/chipset - cheaper still. Or heavier components.
When optimizing for cost (purely), the device would be both larger and have a spinning HD.
Right - but that's only because people are willing to pay. A lot of people bought Crackdown just for the brief demo (though Crackdown seems to have been a good game).
Really, I've gotten a helluva lot of play from demos over the years when I never bought the actual. FEAR for example. The Age of Empires online demo (played the hell out of that).
But, you know, for the 100s of other game demos out there, they only get tried for fun and maybe sell you on the game, so they best keep the first 'hit' of the gaming goodness free like any other crack dealer.
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Er, I guess you don't know how 'peer' sharing works and how that invalidates all three of your points. They knew what they were doing, and they were doing it.
What does some limp-wrist academic testify to as an expert - 'Yes, students are ok to download copywritten work because I read on the slashdot that Information is Free and it is only taking money from evil labels not from artists. Why, your honor, do CDs cost 12.99 in stores when they cost only pennies to produce!'
So I have to ask.... what DID they buy it for?
And IE. I wonder what browser it works on - if any.
No, I have 7% body fat and you can count my abs. I do triathlons (iron distance and shorter), marathons, and hit the gym at least three times a week. But my weight swings as much as 10 lbs a day and at 5'9" I think it says I'm overweight when I hit 165 which is where I tend to max out at during the day after the gym (when I'm sucking down water and after I've eaten 2nd lunch).
But seeing fat people, who are an eyesore, makes me sick.
And yeah, fatties are much more prone to health problems - and that isn't a different issue, it is the issue.
Aside from a select few, it's actually a pretty good indicator of people who are overweight. There are a few muscled types who show up as overwieight/obese (I'm one of them) that have very low BF and high muscle mass. But for most of you, if BMI says you are obese, you are obese and need to step away from the cookie.
And realistically violent videogames are a genre, not a medium.
Aren't there multiple worlds in Spore? How do you factor that in?
Wow - great apology/mistatement for being child molestor.
Yes, at DEFCON they ran some chick off the premises (and acted like they'd never seen a girl in the process), but she didn't do anything illegal under any definition. There were many bloggers there no registered as press either.
Totally cool to run her back to Englewood Cliffs. But I wonder - I'm sure almost all of those folks have blogs - and many will mention DF15 on the blog. Did they all have to get press passes, too?
Maybe NAMBLA should buy advertising here since they have so many defenders against legitemate and long-since legal sting operations. South Carolina's atty gen's office and many others have been running these for years. If only all of them had the decency to put a bullet in their head like that one guy did....
Here's a tip - go to Thialand instead of around the corner.
Typical argument of media theifs that they aren't stealing from the producers. WRONG. The distributors work as agents of the producers. It's so lame and immature - you sound like a petulent child making stupid arguments about why they should get to smoke pot.
The Brady Bill has expired. In all states there is an instant background check instead. Takes about 3 minutes.
Totally. And then they use the criminals to try to pass laws like the Brady Bill and the 'Assault' Weapons Ban and ...
Oh wait...
Wow. Still not modded down for 'too much common sense.' Well said, well said.
You realize that it is in their interest to sell them at as low a price as they can as the attach rate + XBL transactions are where they will make their money. There are some sensitive curves involved here and MS has the market research; we do not.
The revisions you are likely to find on the shelf will not have this problem.
You mean the game with the dolphin?
First, MS and the publishers both know if you playing the demo resulted in a sale of the game. They will know the exact conversion rates (assuming you got the demo from XBL.)
Also, realize that game developers currently PAY OXM to put the games on their disks, not the other way around. It's doubful that XBL will be allowed to hinder distribution of the developers games - especially since MS makes more money off the sale of a game than $2.50.
The fee to consumer to play demos pits OXM/XBL's line item against MS/Publishers. And since MS owns XBL and oversees OXM and make money the same way the publishers do, you can forget about paying for demos off of XBL.
Right - in a way - we agree. Because they made too small to have the least expensive HDD.
When optimizing for cost (purely), the device would be both larger and have a spinning HD.
Really, I've gotten a helluva lot of play from demos over the years when I never bought the actual. FEAR for example. The Age of Empires online demo (played the hell out of that).
But, you know, for the 100s of other game demos out there, they only get tried for fun and maybe sell you on the game, so they best keep the first 'hit' of the gaming goodness free like any other crack dealer.
What some fat Chicago has-been says who doesn't even watch the movies he reviews thinks?
The answer is more than likely the latter. I don't expect this to change.
Silly slashdotters - the market usually solves questions in the consumers favor.