Except that kind of reasoning is the job of legislators, not judges. Like many judges, he has forgotten his role and taken the job of dictator for life.
Xbox 360 Core can do all of this. And play DVDs and other formats of video and music. And play games. And download stuff from the internet directly if you add a hard drive to it (or just get the premium package).
Ok, granted, if you don't want to deal with a wire, you MUST buy that rediculous wireless adapter. I wonder why there are no third party devices for like $15 that do the same thing yet.
I don't think that the designers of the console should be entitle to anything.
The spreadsheet that is made to determine whether or not a project goes forward considers many things: both the upfront revenue and future revenue. All of this, minus costs, get calculated into a NET PRESENT VALUE.
If the net present value, minus the liscence fee that you don't think should exist, was not sufficient, the company would either not produce as good a console or not produce the console at all.
It doesn't MATTER if a company makes money on the console sale itself or makes it on the console + three games.
No, completely relevant to you being a whiner. I imagine you make your kids dress up like they are going on a moon walk to ride their bikes. THE WORLD IS SO HARSH AND EVIL!!!!
It's useless to get into a political argument here. Must better to put that energy into actually winning elections rather than arguing with a bunch of fat slobs who either aren't US citizens or aren't registered or if they are registered, it was through motorvoter and they never show up to vote.
However, your scenario was interesting and there are a few conflicts there in that such a person can't really exist. Being a Randian Objectivist is sort of like being a Catholic in that there are people who 'own' that line of thinking, so you can't really disagee with them about what it means to be a Catholic/Objectivist like you can argue about what it means to be an idiot, I mean a liberal (US).
Anyway, the Randian Objectivists are fiercely pro-war. Off the charts. If they had their way the US would invade Brazil right now for nationalizing US property (and so would the US if this was 100 years ago. The USMC did this about 130 times around that period).
Also, while they are typically considered 'pro-choice', Rand did not support it beyond the first trimester and could well have changed her position based on where science is today as viability marches back to conception.
Starcraft's battle.net had a place where you could play player moded games. There were some HUGELY fun modifications made. Once you downloaded someone's mod, you could mod it, too. So you would often see an original work marked 1.0 and then someone else would do a 1.1 or whatever and they would keep getting better, bug fixes, etc.
If the tools are there and it's a fun environment, I think you could find enough people making a few cool maps that would make it worthwhile. Not ALL will be great, but many may be good.
I kind of enjoyed this because I got to think creatively about your statement 'But I will NEVER give one thin dime to any company that puts adverts in their product.' I just find it obnoxious how folks on the net and elsewhere make these sweeping and obviously false statements.
It's also a sort of anti-industrial mindset that I find disturbing. Someone makes a product that can make someone else's life better. They tell other people about it. And you turn that into some nefarious evil conspiracy.
Adding to the list...You have probably also bought a newspaper at some point. You probably own a car. In the US there are advertisements on the gas pumps - I'm guessing the same for Canada. And I mean, this is a gaming story. What games do you have sitting on you shelf? Did any come with demos like most do?
It's illogical because adverts themselves are innocuous and by now he is probably immune to them. That is why it is illogical.
And I go out on a limb to say that he is a hypocrit because there is a 99% chance he does have games with advertising in them AND that if a game came out that was good enough, this pledge of his would be as forgotten as this thread.
Exactly how am I a hypocrit, because you believe I must have games with ads in them?
Wow. Do you not know the definition of hypocracy (I know I mispelt it there).
I meant it because I am wagering you already to own such games and that if a game came out that was really awesome, you wouldn't care about a few static ads or something being displayed during a load screen. What games do you own now?
But I will NEVER give one thin dime to any company that puts adverts in their product.
GP here. Time to make you out to be a hypacrit. I'll explain if you aren't too busy looking out for black helicopters. chopchopchopchopchopchopchopchopchop
You've never paid money to see a movie? You do not have Cable or satallite TV? You do not buy music CDs (they have adverts in their jewel cases for other products)? You do not ever buy a magazine? You've never bought tickets to attend a sporting event?
Are you going to reply? You have never paid for a ride in a cab or a metro bus or a metro rail train or an airplane (airplanes typically have those TV ads playing during longer flights).
It's like saying you won't buy a game if the box is blue. It doesn't have anything to do with your enjoyment of the game.
I'd also wager you a hypocrit. Someone else like you mentioned the same thing but also had a link to their game collection in their sig which had many games with adverts.
Maybe you should rephrase your statement so you are not a current or potential victim of hypocracy by saying 'if the adverts interfere with or somehow break the game, I will not buy it, just as I will not buy a very buggy game.'
Your puritanism on this is obnoxious. And typical.
There was a time when there were a lot of premium games on the Zone where you had to buy the PC game and the zone would be the matchmaking area. Age of Empires, Birth of the Federation, and other PC games like that. I even remember some of MS's subscription titles like Allegiance and Asheron's Call launched through the zone.
I just checked the site out, and it's entirely these casual games. When did this change happen? I missed the old zone from a nostalgic point of view. Just looking for someone to play Birth of the Federation with.... I suppose games these days come with their own networking software/matchmaking or use gamespy.
Maybe Windows Gaming Live is an attempt to bring this all back.
If you enjoy online poker and are not a junkie running five or six tables at the same time with some kind of computer assist, XBL is a great environment.
You can chat with others at the table, the pacing is just right. You can build a competitive bank roll so, by the time you get to the second level, people play like they actually have something at stake.
And I got in on the game when it was available for free in the full version. But it's definitely worth the $6 or whatever it costs to purchase with points.
One is 10 months old, the other two are two months old.
I think the guy in the story's problem is likely his power system in the building. It may be low or have some kind of wiring issue. That's way too much of a coincidence.
Also, he will probably violate his own principals because odds are he went to a public university OR took federal funding if he went to a private university. Surely he wants the freedom to choose where to go and what to study and for profs to have academic freedom - totally contradicting his point in the post. His logic... fails.
Also, ask him why 57% of DC public school teachers with children opt to send their kids to private schools, and why shouldn't everyone have that choice? Citation.
Yet another solution that could easily be solved by Home School or Educational Choice.
You don't like your neighbors democratically deciding what religion your children should have or what type of job you should take or what your living arrangements should be or determining what kind of medical procedures you have. Why do you want your neighbors democratically deciding what to teach your kids?
Don't like your child learning / not learning about sex ed / evolution / intelligent design / Islam / Christianity? Want or not want your kid to have a homosexual teacher? That's your business and by allowing you to choose what kind of school (a liberal one or a conservative one or a religious one or a.... ) or deciding to educate the child yourself, then it is completely removed as a matter of political debate.
Google or Amazon can run whatever they want for whatever reason. If you don't like it, shop elsewhere or start your own store. This has absolutely nothing to do with free speech. If it does, you probably have a problem with whose bumper stickers I decide to put on my car or what yard signs I put on my front yard.
It is imformative about the ethics of the companies. You kind of learn that Google is a bunch of cowards and that freak-of-nature Rosie O'Donnell's concerns about violent Christians are phony. You also learn that Amazon is ok with being complicit in probably the cruelest treatment as animals that you can imagine and are also as ignorant as the poster about what is 'free speech.'
Nothing there suggests the judges were biased. Almost every organization out there that gives awards requires you be a member. USA Triathlon requires you PAY MONEY to be considered.
Capcom should just pay up. Joining was not an issue for Activision, Big Huge Games, BioWare/Pandemic Studios, Buena Vista Games, Day 1 Studios, Electronic Arts, Epic Games, High Moon Studios, id Software, Insomniac Games, Microsoft, Midway, NCsoft, Nintendo, NovaLogic, Oddworld Inhabitants, Pi Studios, PlayFirst, RedOctane, Sega, Sony, Spark Unlimited, Square Enix, Stormfront Studios, Sucker Punch, THQ, TT Games, Take 2 Interactive, Ubisoft, Vivendi/Universal Games, or Warner Bros. Interactive.
This is just a stupid canard to try and dis MS. I don't think GoW was a good game at all. They won because the judges were stupid, not because they were bought.
And to hear Capcom complaining about this is even more pathetic.
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Except that kind of reasoning is the job of legislators, not judges. Like many judges, he has forgotten his role and taken the job of dictator for life.
Ok, granted, if you don't want to deal with a wire, you MUST buy that rediculous wireless adapter. I wonder why there are no third party devices for like $15 that do the same thing yet.
The spreadsheet that is made to determine whether or not a project goes forward considers many things: both the upfront revenue and future revenue. All of this, minus costs, get calculated into a NET PRESENT VALUE.
If the net present value, minus the liscence fee that you don't think should exist, was not sufficient, the company would either not produce as good a console or not produce the console at all.
It doesn't MATTER if a company makes money on the console sale itself or makes it on the console + three games.
MS's own 360 games cost $50 still.
No, completely relevant to you being a whiner. I imagine you make your kids dress up like they are going on a moon walk to ride their bikes. THE WORLD IS SO HARSH AND EVIL!!!!
If parents weren't total pussies they would raise their kids with enough character to see through this. The nagging is a teachable moment.
I think it has one good game that is exclusive - and it's not even that 'great' a game.
Maybe more time will help with GOW3.
Pretty happy with the 360 for now. Online really rocks.
However, your scenario was interesting and there are a few conflicts there in that such a person can't really exist. Being a Randian Objectivist is sort of like being a Catholic in that there are people who 'own' that line of thinking, so you can't really disagee with them about what it means to be a Catholic/Objectivist like you can argue about what it means to be an idiot, I mean a liberal (US).
Anyway, the Randian Objectivists are fiercely pro-war. Off the charts. If they had their way the US would invade Brazil right now for nationalizing US property (and so would the US if this was 100 years ago. The USMC did this about 130 times around that period).
Also, while they are typically considered 'pro-choice', Rand did not support it beyond the first trimester and could well have changed her position based on where science is today as viability marches back to conception.
Starcraft's battle.net had a place where you could play player moded games. There were some HUGELY fun modifications made. Once you downloaded someone's mod, you could mod it, too. So you would often see an original work marked 1.0 and then someone else would do a 1.1 or whatever and they would keep getting better, bug fixes, etc.
If the tools are there and it's a fun environment, I think you could find enough people making a few cool maps that would make it worthwhile. Not ALL will be great, but many may be good.
This is a PS2 game, right? So I imagine it wouldn't damage the game to have a static image up and rotating during the 3 hour load times, right?
It's also a sort of anti-industrial mindset that I find disturbing. Someone makes a product that can make someone else's life better. They tell other people about it. And you turn that into some nefarious evil conspiracy.
Adding to the list...You have probably also bought a newspaper at some point. You probably own a car. In the US there are advertisements on the gas pumps - I'm guessing the same for Canada. And I mean, this is a gaming story. What games do you have sitting on you shelf? Did any come with demos like most do?
And I go out on a limb to say that he is a hypocrit because there is a 99% chance he does have games with advertising in them AND that if a game came out that was good enough, this pledge of his would be as forgotten as this thread.
Wow. Do you not know the definition of hypocracy (I know I mispelt it there).
I meant it because I am wagering you already to own such games and that if a game came out that was really awesome, you wouldn't care about a few static ads or something being displayed during a load screen. What games do you own now?
Did I not explicitly say he should rephrase it to apply to game-breaking advertising?
You've never paid money to see a movie? You do not have Cable or satallite TV? You do not buy music CDs (they have adverts in their jewel cases for other products)? You do not ever buy a magazine? You've never bought tickets to attend a sporting event?
Are you going to reply? You have never paid for a ride in a cab or a metro bus or a metro rail train or an airplane (airplanes typically have those TV ads playing during longer flights).
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I'm guessing not.
It's like saying you won't buy a game if the box is blue. It doesn't have anything to do with your enjoyment of the game.
I'd also wager you a hypocrit. Someone else like you mentioned the same thing but also had a link to their game collection in their sig which had many games with adverts.
Maybe you should rephrase your statement so you are not a current or potential victim of hypocracy by saying 'if the adverts interfere with or somehow break the game, I will not buy it, just as I will not buy a very buggy game.'
Your puritanism on this is obnoxious. And typical.
You can download the demo on XBL. It's pretty fun but lacks any depth to the AI. Very GTA though the targeting system seems to work better.
There was a time when there were a lot of premium games on the Zone where you had to buy the PC game and the zone would be the matchmaking area. Age of Empires, Birth of the Federation, and other PC games like that. I even remember some of MS's subscription titles like Allegiance and Asheron's Call launched through the zone.
I just checked the site out, and it's entirely these casual games. When did this change happen? I missed the old zone from a nostalgic point of view. Just looking for someone to play Birth of the Federation with.... I suppose games these days come with their own networking software/matchmaking or use gamespy.
Maybe Windows Gaming Live is an attempt to bring this all back.
You can chat with others at the table, the pacing is just right. You can build a competitive bank roll so, by the time you get to the second level, people play like they actually have something at stake.
And I got in on the game when it was available for free in the full version. But it's definitely worth the $6 or whatever it costs to purchase with points.
I think the guy in the story's problem is likely his power system in the building. It may be low or have some kind of wiring issue. That's way too much of a coincidence.
Well put.
Also, he will probably violate his own principals because odds are he went to a public university OR took federal funding if he went to a private university. Surely he wants the freedom to choose where to go and what to study and for profs to have academic freedom - totally contradicting his point in the post. His logic ... fails.
Also, ask him why 57% of DC public school teachers with children opt to send their kids to private schools, and why shouldn't everyone have that choice? Citation.
You don't like your neighbors democratically deciding what religion your children should have or what type of job you should take or what your living arrangements should be or determining what kind of medical procedures you have. Why do you want your neighbors democratically deciding what to teach your kids?
Don't like your child learning / not learning about sex ed / evolution / intelligent design / Islam / Christianity? Want or not want your kid to have a homosexual teacher? That's your business and by allowing you to choose what kind of school (a liberal one or a conservative one or a religious one or a .... ) or deciding to educate the child yourself, then it is completely removed as a matter of political debate.
It is imformative about the ethics of the companies. You kind of learn that Google is a bunch of cowards and that freak-of-nature Rosie O'Donnell's concerns about violent Christians are phony. You also learn that Amazon is ok with being complicit in probably the cruelest treatment as animals that you can imagine and are also as ignorant as the poster about what is 'free speech.'
Free Market > Government Mandate
Capcom should just pay up. Joining was not an issue for Activision, Big Huge Games, BioWare/Pandemic Studios, Buena Vista Games, Day 1 Studios, Electronic Arts, Epic Games, High Moon Studios, id Software, Insomniac Games, Microsoft, Midway, NCsoft, Nintendo, NovaLogic, Oddworld Inhabitants, Pi Studios, PlayFirst, RedOctane, Sega, Sony, Spark Unlimited, Square Enix, Stormfront Studios, Sucker Punch, THQ, TT Games, Take 2 Interactive, Ubisoft, Vivendi/Universal Games, or Warner Bros. Interactive.
This is just a stupid canard to try and dis MS. I don't think GoW was a good game at all. They won because the judges were stupid, not because they were bought.
And to hear Capcom complaining about this is even more pathetic.