I'm sorry but no, the few female coders I know are probably more competent than the many male coders I know. They have to be, and what's more, they have to want it more in order to put up with the stereotypical nerdrage(/nerdlust/nerdmysogyny/nerdetc...) which is all but inescapable in tech circles. Usually the girls that survive the circus are the ones who really have that davinci-esque mindset necessary to out-think everyone around them just to make their unacceptable [female/insightful/whole-brained]-ness juxtapose successfully with our [male/self-obsessedly/single-mindedly] driven tech worker society. Given a change of scenery, we might find that women are better at coding, as it requires deep and multi-faceted insight which is difficult to come by for the mouth breathing, leg humping portion of the geek scene.
Just to be a pedant, as that seems to be the prevalent mode of thought in this discussion thread, you clearly intended your first sentence as the interrogative:
"You do realize that poor grammar makes you sound juvenile and uneducated, don't you?" Clearly the poster you were referring to didn't understand that, and you were asking the question. In latin: "Nonne scit, mala grammatica facit ineruditus et praetextatus sonas?" There. I hope you're all satisfied with the level of ridiculous over-reaction and mindless self-appreciation I put into this post. Grins!
Interestingly enough, as an exercise in boredom, I have recently been having all of my text message conversations, with certain qualified individuals, in reverse..yaw siht nettirw eb dluow ecnetnes siht,ecnatsni rof,oS
Pedantic, yes.
Waste of time, yes.
Utterly hilarious when you get good at it, also yes.
when sapiens, fraught with entropy\
began to stop, and die and bleed\
up from the muck, no kings did rise\
the ratfrog, maddened, claimed its prize\\
large, nocturnal, semi-aquatic\
ratfrog overlord, not bionic\
gnashing teeth, by night they swim\
kill people coming from the gym\\
if only human kind had done\
what nature wrought them to and run\
they might have had athletic thigh\
and claimed the wicked ratfrogs prize!
Unfortunately it is the "slack-jawed, mouth breathing rednecks from the hinterlands" who tend to make the most noise and get the most attention. If smart people ran around yelling at (and/or threatening personal violence towards) people they disagreed with perhaps they would get more traction. On the other hand, you are correct, people should lay off the theist-bashing. Just because someone holds one or two unfalsifiable personal beliefs does not by proxy mean that their other, more scientifically rigorous claims should be dismissed.
I understand not junking up lagrange points with non-functional space junk, but if we leave it orbiting the sun or crashing into the sun or a dozen other possibilities aren't we a) just cluttering up the wider solar system, or b) eliminating our chance at recouping and reusing the materials onboard? I think a giant pile of junk satellites on the moon would be pretty anyway. Future tourist attraction/place for disenfranchised lunar youth to go scavving.
Speaking of very expensive, don't we spend lots of money to build these complicated telescopic and other satellites? Don't we use quantities of rare materials to create the sensitive instrumentation onboard? Why, then, are we sending them off into a graveyard orbit whose FINAL DESTINATION (hahemm, scuse me, didn't mean to shout, too much hollywood) is destruction? Shouldn't we try to find some way to stash all the defunct satellites somewhere in space for future (as in when we have facilities set up to do so) recycling of the rare component materials? This just seems like more of the arrogant human "Gimme all the resources, me use once then throw away forever" attitude that gets us into trouble ON the planet. (singing): 'In the year 2525, if man is still alive, he'll be wondering, why did I have to go and fire all those grams of neodymium into the sun? Now we can't build any more sentient teddy bears.'
Call me a hippy, and flame away for my lack of concrete knowledge about the subject, but it just seems like a waste.
I know when people ask me questions in a survey, there comes a point in time when I begin to get bored, and another point in time very near to that when I begin to answer questions either randomly or in an intentionally absurd manner just so I can get some revenge over having them waste my time. If the writers of the survey know something about how to incur that attitude hey could be intentionally skewing the results by placing the questions in the portion of the survey guaranteed to have the most people answering randomly. Then again, maybe I should just not take surveys...
I miss the good old days, before these newfangled wax cylinders. Back then you had to go find a group of musicians if you wanted music. Back then the only ones making any money were the ones selling booze. Maybe those days will come again...
Once there were parking lots, now its a peaceful oasis. This was a pizza hut, now its all covered in daisies... etc.
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Their brilliance was exactly that, the fact that from their many differing viewpoints they were able to rise above petty differences and put together some form of cohesive government.
Also, for the record, there are many people in government today who hold views which I find completely abhorrent, although not slavery per se.
The reason people can think this is a good thing is that some people don't believe that tracking people is a bad thing. There are people in the world naive enough to believe that the government and the authorities in general always have humanity's best interests at the top of their priority list. It is this sheeplike behavior exhibited by a large portion of our "raised by TV" society that turns said into a place that isn't very pleasant to live in for people who enjoy thinking their own thoughts.
Inside, you'll find enough modern technology to make even nerds drool./me looks on as drool slowly pours from his chin to lightly touch the submit button...
Similarly, my friend's roommate failed to lock the door one night and one of their hallmates drunkenly walked into their room half-asleep and took a leak all over my friend's couch and roommate's GIRLFRIEND's pants. Took about 20 minutes, an RA and the threat of a call to the uni poilice to get the guy to admit he'd done it and apologize for it. So yeah, lock your door when you're asleep, or copy the womens restroom sign in bright red and tape it to your door...
(PS one defense against thieves is a really smelly/abnoxious roommate, mine stunk and while all #1 was pretty much off-limits in my room, girls have rooms too, usually cleaner and nicer)
I am not sure why this can't be explained normally, without changing anything. Object X (orbiting Object Y) is between Object Y and the object it orbits, Object Z. The gravitational pull from the direction of Object Z should be increased by the gravitational pull from Object X, thereby negating or increasing the amount of gravitational pull measured (esp. by pendulum) on the surface of Object Y depending upon position (Northern Hemisphere/Southern Hemisphere, Summer/Winter). I just wonder if the idea of location on the surface of Object Y (quaintly called Earth) has been factored into these various experiments, not to mention the location of the total eclipse in relation to the location of the experiment.
Or maybe my head is pointed away from the sun, thereby causing my body to have more difficulty pumping it to my sorely overworked brain.
One point here, if the artist wants to release a song the record label considers a 'hit', its 99c, if they want to also throw some experimental material out there, package it for free with the download of a priced song...
First of all, as was already mentioned, the article doesn't really deal with actual spam (where someone sends out a bazillion (tech. term) emails to people they don't know to try and find that one bozo who has not the internet sense god gave a script kiddie who will buy their worthless product.
The second issue would be the fact that their statistics in the article are invalid (I think, not that I am any sort of stats major.) If their sample WAS good, they didn't show it in the article, as they didn't tell how many of the people received an email with mutliple recipients vs how many received one with just their email message.
The entirety of my problem with the current situation stems from the fact that the United States is becoming, whether we like it or not, a Corporate Republic instead of a Democratic one. Corporations have far more influence over what actually happens here than the average individual, or even group of individuals. Now I am not preaching against big corporations, they do many good things for the country, but that doesn't change the fact that their existance has changed the face of American politics. Not that I have any sort of a solution to the issue, just posting this hoping someone agrees/disagrees has genuine thoughts on the issue.
TV rots your brain!
Bob Maltby
bmaltby@www.answer(NO SPAM)factory.com
To the contrary it seems to me that an interface like the pin-grid array would merely open the door to a myriad of problems. Remember that the more control over our environment we give the computer the more likely it is that someone will find a way to make that computer abuse said power. Just imagine a rash of viruses hitting AOLers with pin-grid pointing devices and having thousands of people in hospitals with the words "AOL SUX" tattooed on their hand by their own mouse!
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In soviet russia, 6 digit Slashdot accounts still have Linux fanboys...
I'm sorry but no, the few female coders I know are probably more competent than the many male coders I know. They have to be, and what's more, they have to want it more in order to put up with the stereotypical nerdrage(/nerdlust/nerdmysogyny/nerdetc...) which is all but inescapable in tech circles. Usually the girls that survive the circus are the ones who really have that davinci-esque mindset necessary to out-think everyone around them just to make their unacceptable [female/insightful/whole-brained]-ness juxtapose successfully with our [male/self-obsessedly/single-mindedly] driven tech worker society. Given a change of scenery, we might find that women are better at coding, as it requires deep and multi-faceted insight which is difficult to come by for the mouth breathing, leg humping portion of the geek scene.
Just to be a pedant, as that seems to be the prevalent mode of thought in this discussion thread, you clearly intended your first sentence as the interrogative:
"You do realize that poor grammar makes you sound juvenile and uneducated, don't you?"
Clearly the poster you were referring to didn't understand that, and you were asking the question. In latin:
"Nonne scit, mala grammatica facit ineruditus et praetextatus sonas?"
There. I hope you're all satisfied with the level of ridiculous over-reaction and mindless self-appreciation I put into this post. Grins!
Interestingly enough, as an exercise in boredom, I have recently been having all of my text message conversations, with certain qualified individuals, in reverse. .yaw siht nettirw eb dluow ecnetnes siht ,ecnatsni rof ,oS
Pedantic, yes.
Waste of time, yes.
Utterly hilarious when you get good at it, also yes.
when sapiens, fraught with entropy\ began to stop, and die and bleed\ up from the muck, no kings did rise\ the ratfrog, maddened, claimed its prize\\ large, nocturnal, semi-aquatic\ ratfrog overlord, not bionic\ gnashing teeth, by night they swim\ kill people coming from the gym\\ if only human kind had done\ what nature wrought them to and run\ they might have had athletic thigh\ and claimed the wicked ratfrogs prize!
qui homo libertarian est?
Unfortunately it is the "slack-jawed, mouth breathing rednecks from the hinterlands" who tend to make the most noise and get the most attention. If smart people ran around yelling at (and/or threatening personal violence towards) people they disagreed with perhaps they would get more traction. On the other hand, you are correct, people should lay off the theist-bashing. Just because someone holds one or two unfalsifiable personal beliefs does not by proxy mean that their other, more scientifically rigorous claims should be dismissed.
I understand not junking up lagrange points with non-functional space junk, but if we leave it orbiting the sun or crashing into the sun or a dozen other possibilities aren't we a) just cluttering up the wider solar system, or b) eliminating our chance at recouping and reusing the materials onboard? I think a giant pile of junk satellites on the moon would be pretty anyway. Future tourist attraction/place for disenfranchised lunar youth to go scavving.
Speaking of very expensive, don't we spend lots of money to build these complicated telescopic and other satellites? Don't we use quantities of rare materials to create the sensitive instrumentation onboard? Why, then, are we sending them off into a graveyard orbit whose FINAL DESTINATION (hahemm, scuse me, didn't mean to shout, too much hollywood) is destruction? Shouldn't we try to find some way to stash all the defunct satellites somewhere in space for future (as in when we have facilities set up to do so) recycling of the rare component materials? This just seems like more of the arrogant human "Gimme all the resources, me use once then throw away forever" attitude that gets us into trouble ON the planet. (singing): 'In the year 2525, if man is still alive, he'll be wondering, why did I have to go and fire all those grams of neodymium into the sun? Now we can't build any more sentient teddy bears.' Call me a hippy, and flame away for my lack of concrete knowledge about the subject, but it just seems like a waste.
I know when people ask me questions in a survey, there comes a point in time when I begin to get bored, and another point in time very near to that when I begin to answer questions either randomly or in an intentionally absurd manner just so I can get some revenge over having them waste my time. If the writers of the survey know something about how to incur that attitude hey could be intentionally skewing the results by placing the questions in the portion of the survey guaranteed to have the most people answering randomly. Then again, maybe I should just not take surveys...
I miss the good old days, before these newfangled wax cylinders. Back then you had to go find a group of musicians if you wanted music. Back then the only ones making any money were the ones selling booze. Maybe those days will come again...
Once there were parking lots, now its a peaceful oasis.
This was a pizza hut, now its all covered in daisies... etc.
Now, THAT would work, for there is no such place.
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Their brilliance was exactly that, the fact that from their many differing viewpoints they were able to rise above petty differences and put together some form of cohesive government.
Also, for the record, there are many people in government today who hold views which I find completely abhorrent, although not slavery per se.
The reason people can think this is a good thing is that some people don't believe that tracking people is a bad thing. There are people in the world naive enough to believe that the government and the authorities in general always have humanity's best interests at the top of their priority list. It is this sheeplike behavior exhibited by a large portion of our "raised by TV" society that turns said into a place that isn't very pleasant to live in for people who enjoy thinking their own thoughts.
Sounds like high school
-no i dont care about karma
Inside, you'll find enough modern technology to make even nerds drool. /me looks on as drool slowly pours from his chin to lightly touch the submit button...
Similarly, my friend's roommate failed to lock the door one night and one of their hallmates drunkenly walked into their room half-asleep and took a leak all over my friend's couch and roommate's GIRLFRIEND's pants. Took about 20 minutes, an RA and the threat of a call to the uni poilice to get the guy to admit he'd done it and apologize for it. So yeah, lock your door when you're asleep, or copy the womens restroom sign in bright red and tape it to your door...
(PS one defense against thieves is a really smelly/abnoxious roommate, mine stunk and while all #1 was pretty much off-limits in my room, girls have rooms too, usually cleaner and nicer)
I am not sure why this can't be explained normally, without changing anything. Object X (orbiting Object Y) is between Object Y and the object it orbits, Object Z. The gravitational pull from the direction of Object Z should be increased by the gravitational pull from Object X, thereby negating or increasing the amount of gravitational pull measured (esp. by pendulum) on the surface of Object Y depending upon position (Northern Hemisphere/Southern Hemisphere, Summer/Winter). I just wonder if the idea of location on the surface of Object Y (quaintly called Earth) has been factored into these various experiments, not to mention the location of the total eclipse in relation to the location of the experiment.
Or maybe my head is pointed away from the sun, thereby causing my body to have more difficulty pumping it to my sorely overworked brain.
The customer is only right if I say so.
One point here, if the artist wants to release a song the record label considers a 'hit', its 99c, if they want to also throw some experimental material out there, package it for free with the download of a priced song...
First of all, as was already mentioned, the article doesn't really deal with actual spam (where someone sends out a bazillion (tech. term) emails to people they don't know to try and find that one bozo who has not the internet sense god gave a script kiddie who will buy their worthless product.
The second issue would be the fact that their statistics in the article are invalid (I think, not that I am any sort of stats major.) If their sample WAS good, they didn't show it in the article, as they didn't tell how many of the people received an email with mutliple recipients vs how many received one with just their email message.
The entirety of my problem with the current situation stems from the fact that the United States is becoming, whether we like it or not, a Corporate Republic instead of a Democratic one. Corporations have far more influence over what actually happens here than the average individual, or even group of individuals. Now I am not preaching against big corporations, they do many good things for the country, but that doesn't change the fact that their existance has changed the face of American politics. Not that I have any sort of a solution to the issue, just posting this hoping someone agrees/disagrees has genuine thoughts on the issue.
TV rots your brain!
Bob Maltby
bmaltby@www.answer(NO SPAM)factory.com
To the contrary it seems to me that an interface like the pin-grid array would merely open the door to a myriad of problems. Remember that the more control over our environment we give the computer the more likely it is that someone will find a way to make that computer abuse said power. Just imagine a rash of viruses hitting AOLers with pin-grid pointing devices and having thousands of people in hospitals with the words "AOL SUX" tattooed on their hand by their own mouse!
gophish@wcnet.org