For hardware, windows support is vastly more comprehensive and complete than linux... though linux has better support of hardware more than a year old, as things improve...
Hardware support maybe more complete on the x86 platform but that's it. Linux has far superior hardware support over all.
would like to see more effort towards binary compatability in the kernel to support binary drivers a bit more consistantly though.
There is a reason that binary compatibility doesn't exist in proprietary drivers. Linux is a free system and was never intended to support 3rd party, proprietary drivers.
IMHO BSD is probably a better OS option than Linux is in a lot of ways (free/open/net)... though linux has the fame, glory, and fanatic following. I like windows, I use windows...
I see this posted all the time but It just leads me to beleive the poster has never used Linux or BSD. It seems like people are using this line to try and ward of criticism by saying "look, I like free software, just not Linux", or "I like Unix, just not Linux".
And your "proof" that errno.h is original because the numbers are different is not proof at all. Anyone could copy it, then change the numbers. I'm only pointing out that your argument wasn't based on substantive evidence.
I never said it was "my" proof. I am just repeating what Linus said and I thought I made that clear when I said "his proof". In defense of Linus though there was no good reason for him to change the error numbers when it caused some things to break.
As far as JFS goes, you need to read this: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=69. In it, Steve Best describes how the JFS team redesigned JFS and started with new source. In another published article, he describes key team members as being members of the original AIX JFS team. (See slide 8 here: http://www.perl.org/tpc/2002/sessions/best_steve.p df ) And in another part of one article, he states that JFS for AIX was around for 10 years before they started the new JFS. That's a very long time. This doesn't meet the standard definition of a "sterile" redevelopment environment.
Here you are missing a key point. The JFS that was created for OS/2 was completely different than the JFS for AIX. The fact that 10 years went by is also very telling, that is a long time in the world of computers and nearly all the technologies used in the original JFS were probably outdated or trivial by the time the second incarnation of JFS arrived. Just because it was called "JFS" doesn't mean it was even close to the same thing. The fact that IBM used some of the same developers for the new JFS means nothing because they never ported that JFS to Linux. They ported another filesystem by the same name that only got ported to AIX after it was ported to Linux.
And errno.h goes back a lot farther than Linux, so you'd have to prove to me that Linus typed it in. Personally, I suspect it came from GNU, and their compilers were available for years before Linus started on Linux.
It is true that errno.h goes back a lot farther than Linux but Linus did in fact create his own errno.h and his proof is that his original errno.h doesn't even use the same error numbers as a "real" UNIX.
And OS/2 and Warp never had a journalling file system quite like what IBM implemented in AIX. As I recall, that file system actually appeared in AIX first, and early versions were being developed on the CS9000. You may not recall that, an early IBM Xenix computer that predated their RS6000 AIX system. There was some research done while the CS9000 was out on a journalling file system. That was in 1983, and OS/2 didn't start to surface until 1986.
True but the journalling file system that was used in Linux WAS taked from OS/2 and not AIX. So while JFS came about in AIX first, it is very different from the JFS used in OS/2 and that is the version of JFS that is used in Linux, not the AIX one.
You seem to be totally dependant on the big media companies for your info. We have the internet now. If you noticed, the politicos are trying to control that too, but with much less success than they have with traditional media.
Actually I don't rely on big media at all. I don't think you've been listening to what I've been saying. You are living in your own little world where everyone has the internet. That's not the case. There is a lot of alternative media out there but you have to know about it in the first place. Not everyone lives in the city or suburbia where they have access to alternative media or even know about it.
Sorry. The electorate was aware that the admin withheld that info.
Where did the electorate get their hands on classified information? No one but the governement and the airlines knew about the warnings. You are full of it if you think anyone else knew.
Yeah, I know a tiny bit of US history. I didn't see in there any requirement for the free press to be anybody's watchdog. It is a nice sentiment, though.
I never said it was a requirement. It was the intention of making the a free press. Read some US history and find out for yourself.
I don't know if you know anything about the history of the United States but the Free Press is there to be the watchdog of the government and they're NOT doing their job. The media has been cowed by the myth of the "liberal media" charge and has lost sight of their purpose. I don't know how you can even pretend that the "facts are there for all to see". This administration explicity witheld information concerning their knowledge of the 9/11 attacks until AFTER the election. Tell me how people were supposed to know that? Maybe the real issue is that you don't know the facts.
Hint, look in the mirror. Look next door, next city, next county, next state.
That's a pretty ignorant statement. You make it seem like I am personally responsible for how this shit happens. I don't vote for canidates with agenda's for big business. Maybe a lot of other people do but how does that make me responsible? In fact I am railing against this shit constantly to try and RAISE awareness. It may be the fault of the people because of their ignorance but then you would have to blame the media for not reporting it, the politicians for hiding it, and the corporations for doing it. Despite what you may want to do you can't let them off the hook that easily.
Oh, are you thinking of saying that "The cinemas already make enough money, so they don't need any more?" Go ahead, say it, but back it up, please, because from what I have heard from movie theater owners, they barely break even after paying for the rights to show a film.
That's right they don't need anymore money, so I don't go to them. When would you consider ticket prices too high? $20? $50? or will you just continue to get raped by them because you don't realize or care that there are alternatives? Movie theaters didn't have a problem making a profit when they didn't show ads. Ads are a relatively recent addition to the moviegoing experience and they only get longer and longer. I already paid my 10 dollars why the hell should I have to pay with 30 more minutes of my time.
As for the food situation, no, I don't need to eat every two hours but that's a part of the movie experience for me. I could always sneak the food in but then I would be just as bad as those file sharers, taking profit away from the theaters, wouldn't I?
That is the attitude the linux community should have. Because its an accurate description of the current state of linux. Just don't waste my time with daily Slashdot headlines about Microsoft trembling in their boots because linux is poised to conquer the world.
You seem to think that the hobbyists actually care whether or not Linux takes off. I'll let you in on a little secret, THEY DON'T. Take your complaints to IBM, Novell, or Sun. Personally I don't give a shit whether Linux takes the world over. It works for me and that's good enough. If you don't like it then use Windows. I don't care either way.
My real issue with movie theaters these days is that I have to pay $10 to get in, another $8 on a soda and popcorn, and then I am forced to sit through a half hour of commercials! Now I actually look forward to the previews.
I rarely go to the movies anymore though. The shit that comes out is usually pretty bad anyway and It's a real test of patience to deal with getting raped on the way in, and then having to deal with babies crying, cellphones ringing, and unsupervised children running around the movie theater.
I watch some of the independent films that play at the local universities and if I feel like a hollywood movie is really worth it I'll usually just buy it on DVD, or rip it from from a friend.
This just shows how powerful corporations have become. Somehow the governemnt can justify throwing a file sharer in jail for three years because they might have cut into some corporations profits while crooked CEOs who steal millions and destroy the life and livelihood of thousands walk free or with a slap on the wrist. Every day the class divisions are becoming more apparent in this country.
If the hobbyists want Linux to take off, they better start listening to their 'customers.
Where did you get the idea that hobbyists have customers? Corporations have customers and if they want changes in the kernel or another open source application then they can code it themselves. Hobbyists don't care if Linux "takes off" because they make no money off of it and don't care to. For most of us hobbyists Linux is good enough as it is and if we want something more then we'll code it for OURSELVES. It's nice when big corporations contribute code but we don't owe them a damn thing, they are using our free code after all.
If you mess up a known quantity, then that's OK because there are known ways of resolving that problem.
Format and reinstall? You can do that with Linux if you really like but there actually are ways to find out what's wrong and fix the problem without doing that in Linux.
While at the same point, SOMEONE definately needs to survive from the content in his own work.
You make a common mistake believing that musicians actually make money off albums. Record companies make all the money and often drive their artists into poverty. You don't hear about them because they're not one of the ten bands/groups/whatever that you hear on the radio. This is actually a much more common occurrence than the reverse. It's funny that the music industry got along fine when records were used to promote live shows, instead of being the main source of revenue.
Myself, I consider it a waste of money to spend over $40,000 a year so these wastes of space can watch cable TV and eat better than I do.
It's an even bigger waste of money to execute someone. It costs much more to execute someone than it does to imprison them for life. I personally beleive that life in prison is a much worse fate than death anyway.
It's still better than arming nasty dictatorships so we can blow them up (along with thousands of innocent victims) at a later date.
Oh and liberals and democrats are NOT the same thing.
Oh wait, one more thing. This administration (which is extremely right wing) has spent more money than any other in the history of this country. In fact we have BILLIONS unaccounted for in Iraq alone. Now who is throwing money at a problem? Please think before you spew outdated cliches.
If it really was Bush he would have said "4,000 years ago", not 3.5 billion years ago. We all know that Christians don't believe all that science mumbo jumbo.
Are you aware of what is going on in the US at all? You and your buddies do not represent the direction of the Republican party even if you are a part of it. Where do you think all this sudden outrage about gay marriage came from? Not many secular people give a shit about homosexuality. Where do you think all the FCC bullshit came from? For crying out loud Bush invokes the Lord's name shamelessly in his speeches.
That's a standard government trick. You pass a whole bunch of bills right before you leave power, so that you look good; usually these bills involve dumping enormous amounts of money into social programs. The next administration has to repeal them all (usually because they're completely impractical), and has to look like jerks for it.
If that was the case with the mercury levels then why did Bush lower them again? Was he trying to screw himself?
What does Democrat and Republican stand for? Both seem rather rightwing...
That made me laugh only because it's true. Republicans are the right wing party in the United States. Democrats are the left wing party. It is true that compared to a lot of European countries the Democrats are right of center.
And why are only these two standpoints ever mentioned?
Are there only two parties? What if I'm not satisfied with those two? Am I allowed to start my own party?
America has a two party system. You are allowed to start your own party and there are actually more parties out there but the system is set up in such a way as to make it very hard to have more than two major parties.
Of course he's planning ahead. Republican "yesism" is notoriously well organized. Bush "bashing" isn't even necessary any more; Republicans get mileage out of crying about it even when it doesn't materialize. When the fascists are on the march, their propaganda is always in order.
This is the same as the "liberal media" charge. It doesn't matter what the truth really is because they can always blame the news on the "liberal media" and now they can defend Bush's idiotic decisions by just claiming the opposing side are "bush bashers".
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Hardware support maybe more complete on the x86 platform but that's it. Linux has far superior hardware support over all.
would like to see more effort towards binary compatability in the kernel to support binary drivers a bit more consistantly though.
There is a reason that binary compatibility doesn't exist in proprietary drivers. Linux is a free system and was never intended to support 3rd party, proprietary drivers.
IMHO BSD is probably a better OS option than Linux is in a lot of ways (free/open/net)... though linux has the fame, glory, and fanatic following. I like windows, I use windows...
I see this posted all the time but It just leads me to beleive the poster has never used Linux or BSD. It seems like people are using this line to try and ward of criticism by saying "look, I like free software, just not Linux", or "I like Unix, just not Linux".
I never said it was "my" proof. I am just repeating what Linus said and I thought I made that clear when I said "his proof". In defense of Linus though there was no good reason for him to change the error numbers when it caused some things to break.
As far as JFS goes, you need to read this: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=69. In it, Steve Best describes how the JFS team redesigned JFS and started with new source. In another published article, he describes key team members as being members of the original AIX JFS team. (See slide 8 here: http://www.perl.org/tpc/2002/sessions/best_steve.p df ) And in another part of one article, he states that JFS for AIX was around for 10 years before they started the new JFS. That's a very long time. This doesn't meet the standard definition of a "sterile" redevelopment environment.
Here you are missing a key point. The JFS that was created for OS/2 was completely different than the JFS for AIX. The fact that 10 years went by is also very telling, that is a long time in the world of computers and nearly all the technologies used in the original JFS were probably outdated or trivial by the time the second incarnation of JFS arrived. Just because it was called "JFS" doesn't mean it was even close to the same thing. The fact that IBM used some of the same developers for the new JFS means nothing because they never ported that JFS to Linux. They ported another filesystem by the same name that only got ported to AIX after it was ported to Linux.
It is true that errno.h goes back a lot farther than Linux but Linus did in fact create his own errno.h and his proof is that his original errno.h doesn't even use the same error numbers as a "real" UNIX.
And OS/2 and Warp never had a journalling file system quite like what IBM implemented in AIX. As I recall, that file system actually appeared in AIX first, and early versions were being developed on the CS9000. You may not recall that, an early IBM Xenix computer that predated their RS6000 AIX system. There was some research done while the CS9000 was out on a journalling file system. That was in 1983, and OS/2 didn't start to surface until 1986.
True but the journalling file system that was used in Linux WAS taked from OS/2 and not AIX. So while JFS came about in AIX first, it is very different from the JFS used in OS/2 and that is the version of JFS that is used in Linux, not the AIX one.
Actually I don't rely on big media at all. I don't think you've been listening to what I've been saying. You are living in your own little world where everyone has the internet. That's not the case. There is a lot of alternative media out there but you have to know about it in the first place. Not everyone lives in the city or suburbia where they have access to alternative media or even know about it.
Sorry. The electorate was aware that the admin withheld that info.
Where did the electorate get their hands on classified information? No one but the governement and the airlines knew about the warnings. You are full of it if you think anyone else knew.
Yeah, I know a tiny bit of US history. I didn't see in there any requirement for the free press to be anybody's watchdog. It is a nice sentiment, though.
I never said it was a requirement. It was the intention of making the a free press. Read some US history and find out for yourself.
I don't know if you know anything about the history of the United States but the Free Press is there to be the watchdog of the government and they're NOT doing their job. The media has been cowed by the myth of the "liberal media" charge and has lost sight of their purpose. I don't know how you can even pretend that the "facts are there for all to see". This administration explicity witheld information concerning their knowledge of the 9/11 attacks until AFTER the election. Tell me how people were supposed to know that? Maybe the real issue is that you don't know the facts.
That's a pretty ignorant statement. You make it seem like I am personally responsible for how this shit happens. I don't vote for canidates with agenda's for big business. Maybe a lot of other people do but how does that make me responsible? In fact I am railing against this shit constantly to try and RAISE awareness. It may be the fault of the people because of their ignorance but then you would have to blame the media for not reporting it, the politicians for hiding it, and the corporations for doing it. Despite what you may want to do you can't let them off the hook that easily.
That's right they don't need anymore money, so I don't go to them. When would you consider ticket prices too high? $20? $50? or will you just continue to get raped by them because you don't realize or care that there are alternatives? Movie theaters didn't have a problem making a profit when they didn't show ads. Ads are a relatively recent addition to the moviegoing experience and they only get longer and longer. I already paid my 10 dollars why the hell should I have to pay with 30 more minutes of my time.
As for the food situation, no, I don't need to eat every two hours but that's a part of the movie experience for me. I could always sneak the food in but then I would be just as bad as those file sharers, taking profit away from the theaters, wouldn't I?
You seem to think that the hobbyists actually care whether or not Linux takes off. I'll let you in on a little secret, THEY DON'T. Take your complaints to IBM, Novell, or Sun. Personally I don't give a shit whether Linux takes the world over. It works for me and that's good enough. If you don't like it then use Windows. I don't care either way.
I rarely go to the movies anymore though. The shit that comes out is usually pretty bad anyway and It's a real test of patience to deal with getting raped on the way in, and then having to deal with babies crying, cellphones ringing, and unsupervised children running around the movie theater.
I watch some of the independent films that play at the local universities and if I feel like a hollywood movie is really worth it I'll usually just buy it on DVD, or rip it from from a friend.
This just shows how powerful corporations have become. Somehow the governemnt can justify throwing a file sharer in jail for three years because they might have cut into some corporations profits while crooked CEOs who steal millions and destroy the life and livelihood of thousands walk free or with a slap on the wrist. Every day the class divisions are becoming more apparent in this country.
Where did you get the idea that hobbyists have customers? Corporations have customers and if they want changes in the kernel or another open source application then they can code it themselves. Hobbyists don't care if Linux "takes off" because they make no money off of it and don't care to. For most of us hobbyists Linux is good enough as it is and if we want something more then we'll code it for OURSELVES. It's nice when big corporations contribute code but we don't owe them a damn thing, they are using our free code after all.
If you mess up a known quantity, then that's OK because there are known ways of resolving that problem. Format and reinstall? You can do that with Linux if you really like but there actually are ways to find out what's wrong and fix the problem without doing that in Linux.
You make a common mistake believing that musicians actually make money off albums. Record companies make all the money and often drive their artists into poverty. You don't hear about them because they're not one of the ten bands/groups/whatever that you hear on the radio. This is actually a much more common occurrence than the reverse. It's funny that the music industry got along fine when records were used to promote live shows, instead of being the main source of revenue.
I hope you don't think you are in the majority. Most people don't even have jobs that have anything to do with their degree.
Old news to me. I have a DLP theater down the street from me. It's one of the joys of living in a city.
It's an even bigger waste of money to execute someone. It costs much more to execute someone than it does to imprison them for life. I personally beleive that life in prison is a much worse fate than death anyway.
Oh and liberals and democrats are NOT the same thing .
Oh wait, one more thing. This administration (which is extremely right wing) has spent more money than any other in the history of this country. In fact we have BILLIONS unaccounted for in Iraq alone. Now who is throwing money at a problem? Please think before you spew outdated cliches.
If it really was Bush he would have said "4,000 years ago", not 3.5 billion years ago. We all know that Christians don't believe all that science mumbo jumbo.
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Are you aware of what is going on in the US at all? You and your buddies do not represent the direction of the Republican party even if you are a part of it. Where do you think all this sudden outrage about gay marriage came from? Not many secular people give a shit about homosexuality. Where do you think all the FCC bullshit came from? For crying out loud Bush invokes the Lord's name shamelessly in his speeches.
If that was the case with the mercury levels then why did Bush lower them again? Was he trying to screw himself?
That made me laugh only because it's true. Republicans are the right wing party in the United States. Democrats are the left wing party. It is true that compared to a lot of European countries the Democrats are right of center.
And why are only these two standpoints ever mentioned? Are there only two parties? What if I'm not satisfied with those two? Am I allowed to start my own party?
America has a two party system. You are allowed to start your own party and there are actually more parties out there but the system is set up in such a way as to make it very hard to have more than two major parties.
Power corrupts and abolute power corrupts absolutely. It's not a new concept.
I like the way they look. I guess I just never got into the rounded, plastic look of Apple's products.
This is the same as the "liberal media" charge. It doesn't matter what the truth really is because they can always blame the news on the "liberal media" and now they can defend Bush's idiotic decisions by just claiming the opposing side are "bush bashers".