Sorry, didn't mean to imply anything was wrong with JCs. I find them to be an excellent way of making education accesible to those of us who aren't rolling in dough. It just happens that Athens is 20 minutes from where I grew up and the University pretty much IS the town.... So that's where I went.>:)
ah, you're getting off topic. As you argue against the philosophy going to college, you admit that you will go back. The thread said: "...many young
men are skipping formal college to pursue high paying IT jobs." You, obviously, are planning to do both because apparently you place value on a
college education. I personally would not be where I'm at had it not been for my college education. I own my own consulting and training firm. Without
the ability to communicate with customers and students, I would be nowhere fast. Without a great understanding of accounting principles, I wouldn't
be able to control my books. Without my understanding in psychology, I wouldn't be as insightful when dealing with employees and students. You get
the point. Yes, some people can skip the college, and do just fine. If you're interested in management, and understanding business, I sincerely believe 4
years of college places you LEAPS ahead of taking the road of "hard knocks" and learning it on your own. Lastly, yes, I could have read all those on
my own, but lets get real. Once in a career, you seldom can catch up to what you have to do, let alone learn to count beans, the human psyche, etc.
Joshua
The reason I am returning is because I want to be able to play with things that regular people just can't buy. I'm going back to go into Mechanical Engineering and Robotics. And while I can work on junkyard battlebots at home what I'd really like to do is work on creating a perfect human exoskeleton thatis controllable by nothing but a brain. A perfect cure for paralysis. And while the mechanics are relatively simple compared to the control mechanism it still is an extremely difficult problem and requires multi-million dollar equipment to test.
But I digress, I've been working full time for a year and a half. That hasn't cut into my time very much at all. I still get in 3 hours of Martial Arts every day. I still read a couple of books a week, and I still discuss philosophy with me net enabled friends. I have no desire to associate on professional or personal basis with idiots if I can avoid it. However I LOVE doing tech support. I enjoy teaching people things, and explaining, and figuring out problems. It doesn't matter if the person is rock stupid. I've taught kids that could barely walk because of a physical disability Taekwondo. I don't mind helping idiots. But I don't want to associate with them on a personal level. And I don't want to be in a learning establishment that can only go as quickly as the person who is both uninterested and an idiot.
Wasn't a junior College, it was the University of Georgia. Which isn't a BAD school. Not all of us can afford Harvard or an equivelant ivy league school. And when you sleep through high school so you can stay up late reading Tolstoy and running a BBS and learning things that actually interest you, you don't usually end up with much in the way of academic scholarships.
There may be quite a few "self-made intellectuals" out there, but nothing can replace the interchange that takes place within a community of learning. Communication skills are essential to good product (and personal) development, and college is the best choice for the vast majority of people to develop those skills. If there's one thing I regret about my college years, it's that I didn't indulge myself with more philosophy, history, or lit courses.
Community of learning? Oh, you mean the coffee house! I get it....
I mean really, I expemted eng 101 and went to lit 102, in that class I found out that the sophomores were no smarter than the freshmen, and just as few were able to hold a conversation for more than two minutes without mentioning getting drunk. I met exactly 2 people out of the 200 I had contact with that were on my level in any way. The classes were dull repetition of things I'd gone through countless times in high school. The occasional insight was marred by the fact that we had to halt the entire class while a dozen people had it explained to them. I went in to college with high hopes of encountering intellectuals, people interested in knowledge and learning, people able to discuss a vast range of topics. Instead I found that it was exactly like my senior year of highschool, only infinitely more expensive. When I go back, it will be simply to take the classes I want to get the degree I want. My general knowledge and interests will continue to be excersised outside of that area in places like Slashdot, and in group philosophy sessions with my the group of friends I've gradually acquired over the years who can keep up with me and occasionally surpass me.
Then you need to get out more. There are many many many self made intellectuals who spend their free time studying history, philosophy, culture, literature, anthropology, group psychology and dozens of other prusuits. I like to study behavioral psychology and eastern philosophy and martial arts in my spare time. I like to read anything I can get my hands on, ranging from Sun Tzu to Socrates (assuming there is a decent english translation of the work, which sometimes there just isn't, sigh...) so do not dismiss those of us who forego college in favor of money, we are not hopelessly one dimensional.
Incidentally I do plan on returning to college in a couple of years (Just as all of my peers are graduating) in order to pursue a degree in Computer or Mechanical Engineering. But I definately won't be studying any philosophy there.
Gee, sounds like SOMEONE got ass-raped this morning... Where's your fucking sense of humor? The damn post was supposed to be at least mildly amusing, and the word 'cleverer' helped set that mood. Now Piss Off, Troll.
If I were cleverer I would come up with a way to convert this to a song along the lines of 'Rock the body'...
Like 'Who's got the Knowledge to Hack your Body?!'
And it comes out later that they were away from their desk and someone else visited that site from their PC, or someone sets their PC to the victim's IP when the victim's PC is down, or...
That is a risk. A possibly expensive risk.
I don't think you understand how corporations work, they aren't going to just notice hits to pr0n and fire the guy and announce it. They are going to notice the hits, set up some more intrusive monitoring on his machine, and find out everything they need to know to be sure it's who they think it is. Then discuss it with them, and continue monitoring. Corporations are VERY cautious because they don't like wrongful termination suites any more than any other kind of lawsuit.
This just sounds like a defamation lawsuit waiting to happen... IANAL, but anything more than "Bob violated the posted Internet policy" will be challenged by somebody, then the company will need to prove why it released personnel details on a terminated employee
The fact that you visited www.livenudegoatpr0n.com at work is not a personal detail. It's information that the company can release to anyone it bloody well chooses because the entire transaction took place using company equipment and property and on company time. That means that it wasn't a private act, but a public act within the company. So you can't bitch that your company announced that you were fired because you were filling up the companies hard drive with pr0n.
As for there being 70,000 programs that run on the various incarnations of Windows, it would only be possible if they counted each new version of the program as a seperate program. If that's the case, there's easily 70,000 programs for Windows.
Hrmm. Just doing a quick search for *.exe on my win95 box I find 605 files. If your definition of Application is just an executable the works then there are 605 seperate applications on my machine.
And I have a very small sampling of software.
Seems like 70 thousand is a pretty conservative estimate to me.
. Explosives or Flammable Solids - This includes, but is not limited to the following:
DOT Class C devices
Gunpowder/Cartridge Primers
Military Explosives, etc.
But a Flammable Gas/Flammable liquid isn't a flammable solid. So would a gass or liquid flamethrower be allowed? Spraying flaming goo all over your oponents control system could pretty much end it if there are any exposed wires...
Ooh. Gas and liquid fuels are also allowed. There's a pressure limit on gases, and 10 oz of liquid fuels. I wonder how quickly a grinder uses up fuel...
Speaking of this, did anyone see if there is a specific restriction against Flamethrowers/Explosives? I couldn't find anything specifically prohibitting, but I imagine their effectiveness would be limited... Would make for an interesting show though... >:)
I thought the ladybug was genius, myself. It got me thinking, what would the rules say about enclosing an opposing robot in a Faraday cage to prevent RF signals from reaching it. Technically, it's not electric and it's not actually *jamming* the signal...
The major flaw in the lady bug was that the saw blade was attached to the upper casing. So that if a bot caught the casing with something the saw blade could be prvented from reaching it. As soon as the Lady bug goes up against something with an offense other than flipping (A saw blade or something) it's going to get destroyed. If the saw blad had its own movement system whereby it could move around under the shell more it would be far more effective.
My own design that I'm working on implementing is well nigh invincible in every test so far. I hope to actually get the full sized model built and entered in the contest eventually.
. I don't know about any of you, but I was a teenager before I viewed any of that stuff, and even then I didn't have access to a lot of it.
Lessee, everyone I know first saw porn when they were a teen, everyone I know first became interested in the concept of porn when they were a teen, gee, it seems like as soon as the kid becomes interested in porn they find some regardless.
And yes I was a really good kid, because the 1 time I disobeyed my father he gave me one hell of a spanking. That's all it took for me to know that when he told me to do something he meant business. And that's the last time I was ever spanked.
However, my parents never said anything one way or the other about nudity, or porn, or any of that. So I of course eventually became interested it and found some, and lost interest in it because frankly a picture of a naked female isn't all that entertaining if you have the real thing around.
And yes, there is a proliferation of porn ON THE NET, so teach your kids that if they hit a site to just close it (And all of the popups it will no doubt spawn) and go about their business.
It's not a matter of "trust" or "upbringing"; kids by nature have an insatiable curiosity and will naturally gravitate to whatever is forbidden and easily accessible.
And what about the parents who aren't as attentive as I am? My kids are going to school with those kids, interacting with those kids, maybe even becoming friends with them; their influence will be felt. What we are building towards is not a parental problem, but a societal one.
You say that censorware isn't the answer. Fine. You also say that government intervention isn't the answer. That's fine, too, but tell me how you're going to shift the balance of power back in favor of the parents without doing these things
Soo... Try this, instead of forbidding things to the kids, why not EDUCATE them about why you believe it's wrong? If you give your kids a decent dose of your brand of morality and teach them some kind of values then they will likely follow them. But if you just say 'NO! Don't do that, I don't want you do and I'm going to lock you out of it!' then of course they are going to do their damndest to break into it.
'grew up on' implies that the 'net was already in existence during the formative years of the persons life, say age 3 and up.
This week, I'm going to learn all about how technology can enable politics; and, while I'm at it, I'll also potty train! Words must be interpreted within
the context with which they were written. The exposure of the average person into politics does not normally begin until mid teens.
Quiz time everybody. At 12 years old, which had more importance to you? Whether Jimmy stole Mary's notebook with the heart stickers all over it?
Or whether the latest highway subsidy bill got out of committee in the House?
What in the world are you talking about? We're talking about whether someone grew up immersed in technology to the point where it affects their outlook on life, not at what point people begin to take an interest in politics. The people who truly grew up with the net don't give a rats ass about politics right now (which might be what you were implying) but they will in a few more years.
The people who created the net are the ones who are now eligible to run for office, but aren't doing anything of the sort because they spent their lives creating technology, not becoming career politicians. So I fail to see how the generation that grew up with the net is doing jack shit about politics right now. The 35+ age group that is running for office are still for the majority technophobes of one kind or another, or at best people who are not comfortable with the pace of technology. As I stated before those people won't be running for office for another 16 to 20 years. And even then, it will be the people who grew up with technology but don't truly understand who are running for office. Because career politicians understand politics, it's their job, not computers.
that this will be the first election in which people who grew up on the Net and the Web will run for office
'grew up on' implies that the 'net was already in existance during the formative years of the persons life, say age 3 and up. Since the 'net as a public entity has been around since about 1988 (Public entity remember, I know it was around before then, but there wasn't even much of a public BBS system before the mid 80s) the people who 'gre up on' the net are just now turning 16-20. None of them are eligible to run for anything higher than class president. So I think instead of 2002 you might want to aim at 2016 for the Age of the Net to be ushered in. The People who grew up on the net are now VOTEING (well, eligible to), but they aren't running for anything.
As much as it may pain download-happy net users, I think that the IOC is right to prevent websites from broadcasting the Olympics, and even more right to be worried about people sneaking in with digital cameras and mobile phones for live broadcasts.
Ohh, so just because the IOC wants a few more bucks I'm going to miss the TKD and Judo prelims and lower ranked bouts. They only show the final few rounds of the Martial arts competitions if even that much. I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing some of the people I've competed with fight in the Olympics this year, and If I miss them because of this I'm gonna be pissed.
You said: "The Theory of Evolution is not fact. That is why we say theory of evolution" When will people stop spouting this drivel ? The word theory does not mean something is unproven, for example, I spent 2 years at university studying "Number Theory", including large slabs of mathematical proofs that what we were studying was _known_to_be_true_, and you don't get anyone more finicky about 'proof' than a pure mathematician. In fact, when mathematicians want to make it clear that something is unproven, they usually call it a conjecture. In general, most things in science are called theories, including such well established and uncontroversial things as "the earth revolves around the sun" (Copernican Theory). I went to a debate between a Scientist and Creationist on Evolution, and when the Creationist said "evolution is only a theory" the scientist produced a car-battery and set of jumper leads and said "wanna test the theory of electricity ?"
Hrmmm, if you look at it in the proper light this guy is a religious nut.
I mean come on, how can you prove to me that 2 + 2 is 4? What the hell is a 2? And what's a 4? Someone told him that 2+2 was 4 and he believed them. Talk about gullible. And if 2/2 = 1, and 0/2 = 0, why does 0/0 = undefined instead of 1? or 0? Math is just as much specious religious raving as any OTHER religion. It's all a matter of perspective. Micro-Evolution can be demonstrated and is obviously factual. However Macro-Evolution has no such proof. No one has yet been able to change one species into another, no one has been able to demonstrate Macro-Evolution in any fashion, hence it's still bullshit.
in reference to the WWF comment, if you've been watching your political news, you'd have seen The Rock give a small speach at the Republican Convention in philly, and actually be seated in the row infront of former president Bush. Something in reference to their being over a million people that pay-per-view to watch the WWF matches, and many of those people are eligible to vote.
1 Million? Hah, try 14 million. Every monday and thursday 14 million people tune in to watch the Rock 'Layeth the Smacketh down' on someone's Candy Ass. And the WWF is trying to get that demographic (18-24 yr old Males) to vote, not to vote FOR someone, just to Vote. And if those 14 million people get off of their asses and all write in 'The Rock' or 'Mick Foley', we WILL have some WWF candidates in there.
Except that it will allow terrorists and criminals to learn how to bypass it, thus making it ineffective. Which is, I suppose, what liberals like you want to happen isn't it?
In case no one has noticed yet, this guy is a troll, pure and simple. He isn't making any valid points, isn't providing any kind of logical argument, and isn't showing any evidence to back up anything he's said.
With that said, I'll look out for my own safety and all those Pig Fucking Cops can go to hell. Useless bunch of bastards, I've never seen a cop do anything useful. In fact, usually when I see a cop they are either doing nothing or pulling over some poor guy for driving faster than the posted speed limit.
Fire 'em all, take their guns, give them to the citizens, use the budget for the cops to train all of the citizens to use guns.
Kintanon
Note: This was simply a notice that you've been talking to a troll followed by my own Ranting opinion. I have no arguments, no facts, and no evidence and do not expect any responses or moderations.
i don't see what the difference will be, i mean cos everyone just goes around with the rocket launcher anyway. the only thing i can think of is that instead of being in a complex map, the fight will be in some kind of "arena." sounds exciting.
You don't get a lot of first place finishes do you? Weapon selection is a critical strategy element. If you just run around throwing rockets everywhere you might to a lot of collateral damage but people who actually know how to play are going to waste you.
Exactly, so 68% of the web is blocked allowing one to view (Get ready for a surprise!) 32% of the web!! >:) His math is correct, you just misunderstood.
Well, considering that at the moment the easiest fix is to install ANOTHER piece of their software which happens to be a web browser (It's not part of the OS, you can remove it whenever you want, it won't break anything, WE PROMISE!) I think that this bug might just be a vendor lock-in feature.>:)
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Sorry, didn't mean to imply anything was wrong with JCs. I find them to be an excellent way of making education accesible to those of us who aren't rolling in dough. It just happens that Athens is 20 minutes from where I grew up and the University pretty much IS the town.... So that's where I went.>:)
Kintanon
ah, you're getting off topic. As you argue against the philosophy going to college, you admit that you will go back. The thread said: "...many young
men are skipping formal college to pursue high paying IT jobs." You, obviously, are planning to do both because apparently you place value on a
college education. I personally would not be where I'm at had it not been for my college education. I own my own consulting and training firm. Without
the ability to communicate with customers and students, I would be nowhere fast. Without a great understanding of accounting principles, I wouldn't
be able to control my books. Without my understanding in psychology, I wouldn't be as insightful when dealing with employees and students. You get
the point. Yes, some people can skip the college, and do just fine. If you're interested in management, and understanding business, I sincerely believe 4
years of college places you LEAPS ahead of taking the road of "hard knocks" and learning it on your own. Lastly, yes, I could have read all those on
my own, but lets get real. Once in a career, you seldom can catch up to what you have to do, let alone learn to count beans, the human psyche, etc.
Joshua
The reason I am returning is because I want to be able to play with things that regular people just can't buy. I'm going back to go into Mechanical Engineering and Robotics. And while I can work on junkyard battlebots at home what I'd really like to do is work on creating a perfect human exoskeleton thatis controllable by nothing but a brain. A perfect cure for paralysis. And while the mechanics are relatively simple compared to the control mechanism it still is an extremely difficult problem and requires multi-million dollar equipment to test.
But I digress, I've been working full time for a year and a half. That hasn't cut into my time very much at all. I still get in 3 hours of Martial Arts every day. I still read a couple of books a week, and I still discuss philosophy with me net enabled friends. I have no desire to associate on professional or personal basis with idiots if I can avoid it. However I LOVE doing tech support. I enjoy teaching people things, and explaining, and figuring out problems. It doesn't matter if the person is rock stupid. I've taught kids that could barely walk because of a physical disability Taekwondo. I don't mind helping idiots. But I don't want to associate with them on a personal level. And I don't want to be in a learning establishment that can only go as quickly as the person who is both uninterested and an idiot.
Kintanon
Wasn't a junior College, it was the University of Georgia. Which isn't a BAD school. Not all of us can afford Harvard or an equivelant ivy league school. And when you sleep through high school so you can stay up late reading Tolstoy and running a BBS and learning things that actually interest you, you don't usually end up with much in the way of academic scholarships.
Kintanon
Heh, and now I'm laughing at myself for not previewing and leaving 'expemted' instead of exempted... oh well.
Kintanon
There may be quite a few "self-made intellectuals" out there, but nothing can replace the interchange that takes place within a community of learning. Communication skills are essential to good product (and personal) development, and college is the best choice for the vast majority of people to develop those skills. If there's one thing I regret about my college years, it's that I didn't indulge myself with more philosophy, history, or lit courses.
Community of learning? Oh, you mean the coffee house! I get it....
I mean really, I expemted eng 101 and went to lit 102, in that class I found out that the sophomores were no smarter than the freshmen, and just as few were able to hold a conversation for more than two minutes without mentioning getting drunk. I met exactly 2 people out of the 200 I had contact with that were on my level in any way. The classes were dull repetition of things I'd gone through countless times in high school. The occasional insight was marred by the fact that we had to halt the entire class while a dozen people had it explained to them. I went in to college with high hopes of encountering intellectuals, people interested in knowledge and learning, people able to discuss a vast range of topics. Instead I found that it was exactly like my senior year of highschool, only infinitely more expensive. When I go back, it will be simply to take the classes I want to get the degree I want. My general knowledge and interests will continue to be excersised outside of that area in places like Slashdot, and in group philosophy sessions with my the group of friends I've gradually acquired over the years who can keep up with me and occasionally surpass me.
Kintanon
Then you need to get out more. There are many many many self made intellectuals who spend their free time studying history, philosophy, culture, literature, anthropology, group psychology and dozens of other prusuits. I like to study behavioral psychology and eastern philosophy and martial arts in my spare time. I like to read anything I can get my hands on, ranging from Sun Tzu to Socrates (assuming there is a decent english translation of the work, which sometimes there just isn't, sigh...) so do not dismiss those of us who forego college in favor of money, we are not hopelessly one dimensional.
Incidentally I do plan on returning to college in a couple of years (Just as all of my peers are graduating) in order to pursue a degree in Computer or Mechanical Engineering. But I definately won't be studying any philosophy there.
Kintanon
Gee, sounds like SOMEONE got ass-raped this morning... Where's your fucking sense of humor? The damn post was supposed to be at least mildly amusing, and the word 'cleverer' helped set that mood. Now Piss Off, Troll.
Kintanon
If I were cleverer I would come up with a way to convert this to a song along the lines of 'Rock the body'...
Like 'Who's got the Knowledge to Hack your Body?!'
Come on, someone run with that idea.>:)
Kintanon
And it comes out later that they were away from their desk and someone else visited that site from their PC, or someone sets their PC to the victim's IP when the victim's PC is down, or ...
That is a risk. A possibly expensive risk.
I don't think you understand how corporations work, they aren't going to just notice hits to pr0n and fire the guy and announce it. They are going to notice the hits, set up some more intrusive monitoring on his machine, and find out everything they need to know to be sure it's who they think it is. Then discuss it with them, and continue monitoring. Corporations are VERY cautious because they don't like wrongful termination suites any more than any other kind of lawsuit.
Kintanon
This just sounds like a defamation lawsuit waiting to happen... IANAL, but anything more than "Bob violated the posted Internet policy" will be challenged by somebody, then the company will need to prove why it released personnel details on a terminated employee
The fact that you visited www.livenudegoatpr0n.com at work is not a personal detail. It's information that the company can release to anyone it bloody well chooses because the entire transaction took place using company equipment and property and on company time. That means that it wasn't a private act, but a public act within the company. So you can't bitch that your company announced that you were fired because you were filling up the companies hard drive with pr0n.
Kintanon
As for there being 70,000 programs that run on the various incarnations of Windows, it would only be possible if they counted each new version of the program as a seperate program. If that's the case, there's easily 70,000 programs for Windows.
Hrmm. Just doing a quick search for *.exe on my win95 box I find 605 files. If your definition of Application is just an executable the works then there are 605 seperate applications on my machine.
And I have a very small sampling of software.
Seems like 70 thousand is a pretty conservative estimate to me.
Kintanon
. Explosives or Flammable Solids - This includes, but is not limited to the following:
DOT Class C devices
Gunpowder/Cartridge Primers
Military Explosives, etc.
But a Flammable Gas/Flammable liquid isn't a flammable solid. So would a gass or liquid flamethrower be allowed? Spraying flaming goo all over your oponents control system could pretty much end it if there are any exposed wires...
Kintanon
Ooh. Gas and liquid fuels are also allowed. There's a pressure limit on gases, and 10 oz of liquid fuels. I wonder how quickly a grinder uses up fuel...
Speaking of this, did anyone see if there is a specific restriction against Flamethrowers/Explosives? I couldn't find anything specifically prohibitting, but I imagine their effectiveness would be limited... Would make for an interesting show though... >:)
Kintanon
I thought the ladybug was genius, myself. It got me thinking, what would the rules say about enclosing an opposing robot in a Faraday cage to prevent RF signals from reaching it. Technically, it's not electric and it's not actually *jamming* the signal...
The major flaw in the lady bug was that the saw blade was attached to the upper casing. So that if a bot caught the casing with something the saw blade could be prvented from reaching it. As soon as the Lady bug goes up against something with an offense other than flipping (A saw blade or something) it's going to get destroyed. If the saw blad had its own movement system whereby it could move around under the shell more it would be far more effective.
My own design that I'm working on implementing is well nigh invincible in every test so far. I hope to actually get the full sized model built and entered in the contest eventually.
Kintanon
. I don't know about any of you, but I was a teenager before I viewed any of that stuff, and even then I didn't have access to a lot of it.
Lessee, everyone I know first saw porn when they were a teen, everyone I know first became interested in the concept of porn when they were a teen, gee, it seems like as soon as the kid becomes interested in porn they find some regardless.
And yes I was a really good kid, because the 1 time I disobeyed my father he gave me one hell of a spanking. That's all it took for me to know that when he told me to do something he meant business. And that's the last time I was ever spanked.
However, my parents never said anything one way or the other about nudity, or porn, or any of that. So I of course eventually became interested it and found some, and lost interest in it because frankly a picture of a naked female isn't all that entertaining if you have the real thing around.
And yes, there is a proliferation of porn ON THE NET, so teach your kids that if they hit a site to just close it (And all of the popups it will no doubt spawn) and go about their business.
Kintanon
It's not a matter of "trust" or "upbringing"; kids by nature have an insatiable curiosity and will naturally gravitate to whatever is forbidden and easily accessible.
And what about the parents who aren't as attentive as I am? My kids are going to school with those kids, interacting with those kids, maybe even becoming friends with them; their influence will be felt. What we are building towards is not a parental problem, but a societal one.
You say that censorware isn't the answer. Fine. You also say that government intervention isn't the answer. That's fine, too, but tell me how you're going to shift the balance of power back in favor of the parents without doing these things
Soo... Try this, instead of forbidding things to the kids, why not EDUCATE them about why you believe it's wrong? If you give your kids a decent dose of your brand of morality and teach them some kind of values then they will likely follow them. But if you just say 'NO! Don't do that, I don't want you do and I'm going to lock you out of it!' then of course they are going to do their damndest to break into it.
Kintanon
'grew up on' implies that the 'net was already in existence during the formative years of the persons life, say age 3 and up.
This week, I'm going to learn all about how technology can enable politics; and, while I'm at it, I'll also potty train! Words must be interpreted within
the context with which they were written. The exposure of the average person into politics does not normally begin until mid teens.
Quiz time everybody. At 12 years old, which had more importance to you? Whether Jimmy stole Mary's notebook with the heart stickers all over it?
Or whether the latest highway subsidy bill got out of committee in the House?
What in the world are you talking about? We're talking about whether someone grew up immersed in technology to the point where it affects their outlook on life, not at what point people begin to take an interest in politics. The people who truly grew up with the net don't give a rats ass about politics right now (which might be what you were implying) but they will in a few more years.
The people who created the net are the ones who are now eligible to run for office, but aren't doing anything of the sort because they spent their lives creating technology, not becoming career politicians. So I fail to see how the generation that grew up with the net is doing jack shit about politics right now. The 35+ age group that is running for office are still for the majority technophobes of one kind or another, or at best people who are not comfortable with the pace of technology. As I stated before those people won't be running for office for another 16 to 20 years. And even then, it will be the people who grew up with technology but don't truly understand who are running for office. Because career politicians understand politics, it's their job, not computers.
Kintanon
that this will be the first election in which people who grew up on the Net and the Web will run for office
'grew up on' implies that the 'net was already in existance during the formative years of the persons life, say age 3 and up. Since the 'net as a public entity has been around since about 1988 (Public entity remember, I know it was around before then, but there wasn't even much of a public BBS system before the mid 80s) the people who 'gre up on' the net are just now turning 16-20. None of them are eligible to run for anything higher than class president. So I think instead of 2002 you might want to aim at 2016 for the Age of the Net to be ushered in. The People who grew up on the net are now VOTEING (well, eligible to), but they aren't running for anything.
Kintanon
As much as it may pain download-happy net users, I think that the IOC is right to prevent websites from broadcasting the Olympics, and even more right to be worried about people sneaking in with digital cameras and mobile phones for live broadcasts.
Ohh, so just because the IOC wants a few more bucks I'm going to miss the TKD and Judo prelims and lower ranked bouts. They only show the final few rounds of the Martial arts competitions if even that much. I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing some of the people I've competed with fight in the Olympics this year, and If I miss them because of this I'm gonna be pissed.
Kintanon
You said: "The Theory of Evolution is not fact. That is why we say theory of evolution" When will people stop spouting this drivel ? The word theory does not mean something is unproven, for example, I spent 2 years at university studying "Number Theory", including large slabs of mathematical proofs that what we were studying was _known_to_be_true_, and you don't get anyone more finicky about 'proof' than a pure mathematician. In fact, when mathematicians want to make it clear that something is unproven, they usually call it a conjecture. In general, most things in science are called theories, including such well established and uncontroversial things as "the earth revolves around the sun" (Copernican Theory). I went to a debate between a Scientist and Creationist on Evolution, and when the Creationist said "evolution is only a theory" the scientist produced a car-battery and set of jumper leads and said "wanna test the theory of electricity ?"
Hrmmm, if you look at it in the proper light this guy is a religious nut.
I mean come on, how can you prove to me that 2 + 2 is 4? What the hell is a 2? And what's a 4? Someone told him that 2+2 was 4 and he believed them. Talk about gullible. And if 2/2 = 1, and 0/2 = 0, why does 0/0 = undefined instead of 1? or 0? Math is just as much specious religious raving as any OTHER religion. It's all a matter of perspective. Micro-Evolution can be demonstrated and is obviously factual. However Macro-Evolution has no such proof. No one has yet been able to change one species into another, no one has been able to demonstrate Macro-Evolution in any fashion, hence it's still bullshit.
Kintanon
in reference to the WWF comment, if you've been watching your political news, you'd have seen The Rock give a small speach at the Republican Convention in philly, and actually be seated in the row infront of former president Bush. Something in reference to their being over a million people that pay-per-view to watch the WWF matches, and many of those people are eligible to vote.
1 Million? Hah, try 14 million. Every monday and thursday 14 million people tune in to watch the Rock 'Layeth the Smacketh down' on someone's Candy Ass. And the WWF is trying to get that demographic (18-24 yr old Males) to vote, not to vote FOR someone, just to Vote. And if those 14 million people get off of their asses and all write in 'The Rock' or 'Mick Foley', we WILL have some WWF candidates in there.
Kintanon
Except that it will allow terrorists and criminals to learn how to bypass it, thus making it ineffective. Which is, I suppose, what liberals like you want to happen isn't it?
In case no one has noticed yet, this guy is a troll, pure and simple. He isn't making any valid points, isn't providing any kind of logical argument, and isn't showing any evidence to back up anything he's said.
With that said, I'll look out for my own safety and all those Pig Fucking Cops can go to hell. Useless bunch of bastards, I've never seen a cop do anything useful. In fact, usually when I see a cop they are either doing nothing or pulling over some poor guy for driving faster than the posted speed limit.
Fire 'em all, take their guns, give them to the citizens, use the budget for the cops to train all of the citizens to use guns.
Kintanon
Note: This was simply a notice that you've been talking to a troll followed by my own Ranting opinion. I have no arguments, no facts, and no evidence and do not expect any responses or moderations.
i don't see what the difference will be, i mean cos everyone just goes around with the rocket launcher anyway. the only thing i can think of is that instead of being in a complex map, the fight will be in some kind of "arena." sounds exciting.
You don't get a lot of first place finishes do you? Weapon selection is a critical strategy element. If you just run around throwing rockets everywhere you might to a lot of collateral damage but people who actually know how to play are going to waste you.
Kintanon
Exactly, so 68% of the web is blocked allowing one to view (Get ready for a surprise!) 32% of the web!! >:)
His math is correct, you just misunderstood.
Kintanon
Well, considering that at the moment the easiest fix is to install ANOTHER piece of their software which happens to be a web browser (It's not part of the OS, you can remove it whenever you want, it won't break anything, WE PROMISE!) I think that this bug might just be a vendor lock-in feature.>:)
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