You don't have anything to post? How about this? It's a description written by those responsible of how they cracked apache.org.
What? apache.org was cracked?? Yep--yet another story Slashdot apparently declined to post. (those who submitted respond to this post so we know you're out there)
On the main page if you will look to your right and then down the side of the page you will see under 'Science' for some odd reason, the story about the Apache.org crack. Please, be sure of your facts before you post.
you'd be amazed how many jobs don't require the use or proximity of network devices. there is something called "labor pool", for people who can't get a regular job. they come pick you up at home, at about 5AM, take you to the job site where you do manual labor, drive you home at the end of the day, and pay you daily in cash. you will probably have to live in a rooming house. you won't need an ATM card because you'll never have enough pay left over to have a bank account. the last time I checked, nobody needed a network device to ride a mop. that said, I agree that these terms are abusive and vindictive. it would be better for all concerned to make good use of Mitnick's knowledge and experience toward better security and practices.
Hopefully he isn't working within 50 feet of an office building, or anything else. Isn't there a proximity to technology restriction on him?
Not in his case it doesn't. At least when incarcerated he was fed, housed, clothed, now that he's out he's not allowed near computerized cash registers, computers, palm devices, cell phones, and a myriad of other technology. The man can't even work on a construction site because the foreman carries an electronic pager and cellphone. He CAN NOT make a living in modern society at all. He may as well become a petty pick pocekt for all of the options they've left him. The man can not even FLIP BURGERS for dog's sake!
responsibility for himself is the 18th (or 21st, depending on what we're talking about ahem BEER) birthday.
Let me see here... I'm qualified to do all of the following: 1. Pilot a 1 ton vehicle at speeds exceeding 55 mph. 2. Elect the governing officials of our nation. 3. Go to war and wield a fully automatic m-16.
I am not qualified to do the following: 1. Purchase Alcohol. 2. Enter certain establishments where alcohol is sold. (specifically a bunch of clubs in New Orleans and other places, strip joints mostly)
Does anyone else see something wrong with this list? I wouldn't buy beer even if I could, because I don't drink. But it's the principle of the thing.
Sign me up! I'm a crack shot as long as I have my glasses on.>:) Of course, I prefer the Apple Newton to those Cringe devices.... But I'm sure that won't set me back to much. Probably keep me out of officer training though.>:)
I got it for christmas a couple of years ago. I'll get the name and company and post them here tonight sometime. I can't remember who produces it off hand.
I don't know what you're talking about. I pity anybody who does all their reading on a computer screen. Unless there's some underground book-pirating scene of which I am unaware, that's a pretty limited amount of information (if there is, though, please email me!). I've only actually read one book online cover-to-cover (metaphorically speaking, of course), but I've used a few more than that. Having a searchable text, or being able to look up a quote you remember in a book without running down to the library, or being able to copy a few pages or a chapter verbatim (for whatever reason) without typing them out are, regardless of the current quality of computer displays, very valuable tools, available far less frequently than I would like. Not to mention the expense of books -- which by any standard of human decency should be sold at most at cost, considering their value to society. Making information available to more people, even if it means printing on pulp or shitty CRTs, can be nothing but noble and beneficial. You don't have to enjoy either (pulp or CRTs) to realize that. So I guess I just can't understand Billington's position.
My favorite CD is contains 500 of the greatest works of literature known to man. Including religious texts, shakespeare, tolstoy, twain, many many great authors from all over the world. Instead of taking up 5 bookshelves it takes up 1 slot in my CD book. I love to browse through it and read shakespeare. It does have its annoying side though, hard to get comfy in bed with the monitor on my chest, strains my eyes after 4 or 5 hours of reading, but it's definately worth it to have so much information at my fingertips.
Kintanon
Re:See a sampling of questions asked of Jeeves...
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AskJeeves Interview
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· Score: 3
Ok, this one just Cracked me up!
"Where can I find the auction site Amazon.com? "
Someone actually ASKED this?!?!?! How stupid can you get....
Re:Two Words For Ya! (Score:3) by garver on 10:16 AM April 18th, 2000 EST (#36) (User Info) As always, when looking at cache, you compare bang for buck. Adding cache costs money, lots of money sometimes. Some processor architectures get more mileage out of added cache than others.
For example, the G4 seems to love cache and screams faster and faster as you add it. Apple/Motorola have found the 1MB cache level to be their sweetspot, most bang for buck. On the other hand, the PIII is not as cache loving. Giving it another 0.75MB doesn't do it all that much good, so why waste the money? Their sweetspot seems to be 0.25MB.
Then why dump so much more onto their high end systems if the performance increase is negligible? Just fleecing their corporate customers? I still feel that 1mb cache would do a bit towards increasing the performance of x86 processors based machines.
Yippy skip, for 6K$ extra I can drop another 1.75 megs of fullspeed cache on a processor. Gee, big surprise, that increases the performance, whoulda thunkit?! What I want is for the X86 processor makers to catch up with Motorola and put 1m of full speed cache on their regular processors. I have a hard time finding a processor with 512K of cache, WTF is the problem here? This is just IBM slapping the market around to try and increase their profits without actually giving us anything new.
From what I understand and have been told this uses almost the exact same method as the Sega Dreamcast. In fact, it has been rumored that it is possible to remove the watercooling system from the dreamcast and install it in one of the larger Toshiba laptops with a bit of hackery. But I've never seen it done, so I have my doubts.
I was pissed over that too! The easiest way to do it is just focus on one dot at a time. The rest fade to grey and black but the one you focus on stays white. My favorite optical illusion is the one where you stare at some spots for 30 seconds then look at a white picture of a tiger, and you get a spotted tiger.... I've always found that to be terribly amusing.
Oh, and by the way...please let me know who's going around surveying and drilling wells for free. I'm sure a lot of refined country folks like yourself would love to make use of such a service.
Hmmm... Let me see, we paid for a pump, we paid for a surveyor, we paid for a drill. Now we have water. I don't notice anywhere actually paying for the water itself. You see, we paid for the labor involved in creating access to the water. See my other post a bit further down for some more on that concept.
Getting water out of a well: You pay W dollars for drilling, X dollars for the pump and Z amount of dollars for filration/treatment for Y amount of water....and let's not forget E amount of dollars for the power required to operate the pump....or the possibility that the well may either a) run dry or b) require multiple holes to be drilled before a good "tap" is found.
Ahh, but you see, we aren't paying for the water, we're paying for the DISTRIBUTION METHOD. That's they key difference. In none of these is the water really the commodity being traded. It's the distribution of that water. In the case of music and movies the creation IS the product being paid for as well as the distribution. If the distribution costs nothing, then the price of the product should go down, but you should still pay for the product. Because it took TIME to create that product. And time is the be all, end all of currency. The only thing on earth which is TRULY finite.
Nope, because you have a legal right to the water. Either you have paid for the water in the pipes through taxes or paid at the store for the bottled water.
Look city boy, we don't all pay for our water. My family has a 75 foot deep hole in the front yard with a pump on it. We get our water from that. It's called a WELL. We didn't pay for that water in any way, shape, or form.
However, the difference between music and water is that someone had to CREATE the music, the water is just THERE. Don't think of it as paying for a copy of the music, think of it as paying for the amount of TIME that the person took out of their life in order to create that. I think 6 months of Metallica's life for 10 songs is worth 15$.
There will always be some compensation in the form of reputation and appreciation. Some people would be happy with that, if they also had basic life support paid for. I program because I enjoy it and because there are programs I want that no one else has written. I'm lucky because I can also program for (lots of) money, but I'd do it regardless.
The flaw here is that someone somewhere has to devote their time to providing that basic life support. Someone has to build the houses, grow the food, transpor the food, store the food, build the appliances, transport the appliances, etc.. etc... Unless THOSE people are also adequately compensated the system breaks down. So either we have a system where a few people are able to feed and house many, our current system, or where everyone feeds and houses themselves, say... pre-feudal europe. Our current economic model is better than any previous economic model. But it still has room for improvement. For one thing people should be allowed to choose where their taxes go. That way no one would be paying to find out how many eggs a sturgeon lays or how much catsup the US eats.... Unless they were interested in that sort of thing.
In my books, there's really not much difference between shooting deer with a rifle or dropping 1000lbs. of cluster-bombs on the same site. The deer has just about as much awareness, or ability to take evasive action. Nor, in my books, is there any difference between deer hunting, whale hunting, hare coursing, fox hunting, badger baiting or any other similar pursuits. There's no "challange", no uncertainty in the results, no respect for the life you're about to erase, no compassion for the animal or anything dependent on it.
As for American Football, it's just Rugby with armour and some glamour girls on the sidelines. Like modern hunting, all the reality is removed and you're left with an empty shell. Desensitised and meaningless.
Personally, if I were running something like Pinkerton's program, I'd have those two activities as the two strongest indicators of a sociopath.
Do you group the slaughtering of a few thousand cows and pigs by repeated blows to the skull in with the hunting pursuits? Or would that make it harder to eat your Double Quarter pounder with cheese? How much respect and compassion did you have for that bacon you ate for breakfast? Unless you are a complete vegan you are being unbelievably hypocritical. I AM NOT a vegan, or a vegitarian, I have been hunting, I have spent 4 hours stalking a herd of deer through the woods, silently. I have carefully lined up a shot and taken down a deer. I have cleaned that deer, gutted it, tanned the hide and eaten the meat. It was NOT easy. The Deer are hard as hell to get close enough to to shoot. They blend in with the forest extremely well. Most hunters DO have respect for the animals they hunt, not all, but most. So don't bitch about hunting unless you are also going to bitch about cattle farms and things like that. And doubly, don't bitch about them unless you are Vegan.
This takes us to the crux of the argument, which is whether there can be sufficient motivation for IP creation without IP protection. For the moment, I think the answer is no, and I believe your IP scheme is probably preferable to the status quo. However, in the long run, I think we will move to a gift economy and that this will work even better.
We will never move to a gift economy until each individual has an infinite amount of TIME. You see, when you pay for a piece of IP, or even a copy of IP, you aren't really paying for the item itself, or the copy, you're paying for the amount of TIME that someone has lost for ever in creating that piece of IP. We all have a finite amount of Time, some have more than others, but that makes Time the most valuable commodity we have. So anything that takes time to create will be valuable in some way. Maybe not to everyone, but to the person that created it. Because that is time they can never get back. So unless everyone gets compensated for the time they spend volunteering things to the gift economy no one will participate.
For the real assholes, I think they are just kids being kids, trust me though they will grow out of it. Try to stay away from #hAx0Rs and #grits on irc.
The sad thing about it is that these people go anywhere from 12 to 30, and they all act alike. So apparently they don't all grow out of it, and they seem to be in the majority! Just makes it VERY refreshing to play against someone that isn't a jackass....
Go "get off" on women then and stop flaming geeks for "getting off" on 1's and 0's
I'm not flaming anyone for getting off on 1's and 0's. I'm a hardware geek, I wired up my basement and I'm working on the rest of my house now. And usually the people I'm talking about aren't geeks. I've gamed with other geeks, there is an entirely different feel to that kind of gaming than to random server gaming where you run into 20 llamas that like to spew lamer script swear words across the top of the screen through the entire game. Women gamers tend to avoid meaningless swear words. If they trash talk you they do it right.... And if you meet them on IRC or something after the fight they can talk to you without continuing the game trashtalk. Geeks can usually do the same thing. They can switch gears to talking about the best way to run cable through the walls or the best OS to use on my fileserver. But the adolescent male gamers that make up 70% of the gaming population continue to spew the "0wX0r3d b14tCh!!" crap no matter where you run into them. And it doesn't even matter who won the game, they will STILL cream obsceneties. It's not that they lack social skills, it's that they lack basic manners.
Well way to go associating men with being savages. That's going to win you a lot of respect.
*glances over his post* Hmmm... I can't find the part where I said 'I'm trying to win everyone's respect with this post'. I couldn't give a flying fuck about whether people on this board respect me.... My observation is that a lot of men online, regardless of their age, come across as adolescent imbeciles. It's like as soon as they get away from that face to face contact they revert to the high school jackass mentality, the kind of person that laughs for 20 minutes at a 'fart' joke. I tend to run into guys between the ages of 17 and 21 in real life, and most of them are still acting that way. I'm not claiming that this is a 100% accurate evaluation, I'm just offering my opinion. Women are just more amusing for me to socialize with than men....
I for one have to say that I prefer to play Q3:A against Females. They tend to be better trashtalkers with less lame gibberish, better players on average, and generally more fun to play with/against. All of the guys I play Q3:A against come off as screaming, hormone enhanced, adolescent losers. Hmmm... of course so do most of the guys I run into in real life.... Heck, my Wife beats the hell out of me at Tekken and any Racing game you can name....
Anyhow, I'm straying from my point, my point is that it's a good thing that more females are getting onto the net, it means I'll have more victims to frag...>:)
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You don't have anything to post? How about this? It's a description written by those responsible of how they cracked apache.org.
What? apache.org was cracked?? Yep--yet another story Slashdot apparently declined to post. (those who submitted respond to this post so we know you're out there)
On the main page if you will look to your right and then down the side of the page you will see under 'Science' for some odd reason, the story about the Apache.org crack. Please, be sure of your facts before you post.
Kintanon
Seriously, when do they send a couple of big ol' shuttles up there and convert this useless space rock into valuable space station materials?
Kintanon
you'd be amazed how many jobs don't require the use or proximity of network devices. there is something called "labor pool", for people who can't get a regular job. they come pick you up at home, at about 5AM, take you to the job site where you do manual labor, drive you home at the end of the day, and pay you daily in cash. you will probably have to live in a rooming house. you won't need an ATM card because you'll never have enough pay left over to have a bank account. the last time I checked, nobody needed a network device to ride a mop. that said, I agree that these terms are abusive and vindictive. it would be better for all concerned to make good use of Mitnick's knowledge and experience toward better security and practices.
Hopefully he isn't working within 50 feet of an office building, or anything else. Isn't there a proximity to technology restriction on him?
Kintanon
Hell, it beats more incarceration!
Not in his case it doesn't. At least when incarcerated he was fed, housed, clothed, now that he's out he's not allowed near computerized cash registers, computers, palm devices, cell phones, and a myriad of other technology. The man can't even work on a construction site because the foreman carries an electronic pager and cellphone. He CAN NOT make a living in modern society at all. He may as well become a petty pick pocekt for all of the options they've left him. The man can not even FLIP BURGERS for dog's sake!
Kintanon
responsibility for himself is the 18th (or 21st, depending on what we're talking about ahem BEER) birthday.
Let me see here... I'm qualified to do all of the following:
1. Pilot a 1 ton vehicle at speeds exceeding 55 mph.
2. Elect the governing officials of our nation.
3. Go to war and wield a fully automatic m-16.
I am not qualified to do the following:
1. Purchase Alcohol.
2. Enter certain establishments where alcohol is sold. (specifically a bunch of clubs in New Orleans and other places, strip joints mostly)
Does anyone else see something wrong with this list? I wouldn't buy beer even if I could, because I don't drink. But it's the principle of the thing.
Kintanon
Sign me up! I'm a crack shot as long as I have my glasses on.>:)
Of course, I prefer the Apple Newton to those Cringe devices.... But I'm sure that won't set me back to much. Probably keep me out of officer training though.>:)
Kintanon
I got it for christmas a couple of years ago.
I'll get the name and company and post them here
tonight sometime. I can't remember who produces it off hand.
Kintanon
Great, the one program that I actually WANT my tax dollars to fund and Congress decides they don't need my money.... Woohoo...
Kintanon
I don't know what you're talking about. I pity anybody who does all their reading on a computer screen. Unless there's some underground book-pirating scene of which I am unaware, that's a pretty limited amount of information (if there is, though, please email me!).
I've only actually read one book online cover-to-cover (metaphorically speaking, of course), but I've used a few more than that. Having a searchable text, or being able to look up a quote you remember in a book without running down to the library, or being able to copy a few pages or a chapter verbatim (for whatever reason) without typing them out are, regardless of the current quality of computer displays, very valuable tools, available far less frequently than I would like. Not to mention the expense of books -- which by any standard of human decency should be sold at most at cost, considering their value to society. Making information available to more people, even if it means printing on pulp or shitty CRTs, can be nothing but noble and beneficial. You don't have to enjoy either (pulp or CRTs) to realize that. So I guess I just can't understand Billington's position.
My favorite CD is contains 500 of the greatest works of literature known to man. Including religious texts, shakespeare, tolstoy, twain, many many great authors from all over the world.
Instead of taking up 5 bookshelves it takes up 1 slot in my CD book. I love to browse through it and read shakespeare. It does have its annoying side though, hard to get comfy in bed with the monitor on my chest, strains my eyes after 4 or 5 hours of reading, but it's definately worth it to have so much information at my fingertips.
Kintanon
Ok, this one just Cracked me up!
"Where can I find the auction site Amazon.com? "
Someone actually ASKED this?!?!?! How stupid can you get....
Kintanon
Re:Two Words For Ya! (Score:3)
by garver on 10:16 AM April 18th, 2000 EST (#36)
(User Info)
As always, when looking at cache, you compare bang for buck. Adding cache costs money, lots of money sometimes. Some processor architectures get more mileage out of added cache than others.
For example, the G4 seems to love cache and screams faster and faster as you add it. Apple/Motorola have found the 1MB cache level to be their sweetspot, most bang for buck. On the other hand, the PIII is not as cache loving. Giving it another 0.75MB doesn't do it all that much good, so why waste the money? Their sweetspot seems to be 0.25MB.
Then why dump so much more onto their high end systems if the performance increase is negligible?
Just fleecing their corporate customers?
I still feel that 1mb cache would do a bit towards increasing the performance of x86 processors based machines.
Kintanon
Bah, whatever....
My typo, replace all instances of IBM with INTEL.
That'll teach me to PREVIEW the damn posts...
Kintanon
Not impressed.
Yippy skip, for 6K$ extra I can drop another 1.75 megs of fullspeed cache on a processor. Gee, big surprise, that increases the performance, whoulda thunkit?!
What I want is for the X86 processor makers to catch up with Motorola and put 1m of full speed cache on their regular processors. I have a hard time finding a processor with 512K of cache, WTF is the problem here?
This is just IBM slapping the market around to try and increase their profits without actually giving us anything new.
Kintanon
From what I understand and have been told this uses almost the exact same method as the Sega Dreamcast. In fact, it has been rumored that it is possible to remove the watercooling system from the dreamcast and install it in one of the larger Toshiba laptops with a bit of hackery. But I've never seen it done, so I have my doubts.
Kintanon
I was pissed over that too!
The easiest way to do it is just focus on one dot at a time. The rest fade to grey and black but the one you focus on stays white.
My favorite optical illusion is the one where you stare at some spots for 30 seconds then look at a white picture of a tiger, and you get a spotted tiger.... I've always found that to be terribly amusing.
Kintanon
Soooooo.....who did you steal the pump from?
Oh, and by the way...please let me know who's going around surveying and drilling wells for free. I'm sure a lot of refined country folks like yourself would love to make use of such a service.
Hmmm... Let me see, we paid for a pump, we paid for a surveyor, we paid for a drill. Now we have water. I don't notice anywhere actually paying for the water itself. You see, we paid for the labor involved in creating access to the water.
See my other post a bit further down for some more on that concept.
Kintanon
Getting water out of a well: You pay W dollars for drilling, X dollars for the pump and Z amount of dollars for filration/treatment for Y amount of water....and let's not forget E amount of dollars for the power required to operate the pump....or the possibility that the well may either a) run dry or b) require multiple holes to be drilled before a good "tap" is found.
Ahh, but you see, we aren't paying for the water, we're paying for the DISTRIBUTION METHOD.
That's they key difference. In none of these is the water really the commodity being traded. It's the distribution of that water.
In the case of music and movies the creation IS the product being paid for as well as the distribution. If the distribution costs nothing, then the price of the product should go down, but you should still pay for the product. Because it took TIME to create that product. And time is the be all, end all of currency. The only thing on earth which is TRULY finite.
Kintanon
Nope, because you have a legal right to the water. Either you have paid for the water in the pipes through taxes or paid at the store for the bottled water.
Look city boy, we don't all pay for our water. My family has a 75 foot deep hole in the front yard with a pump on it. We get our water from that. It's called a WELL. We didn't pay for that water in any way, shape, or form.
However, the difference between music and water is that someone had to CREATE the music, the water is just THERE.
Don't think of it as paying for a copy of the music, think of it as paying for the amount of TIME that the person took out of their life in order to create that. I think 6 months of Metallica's life for 10 songs is worth 15$.
Kintanon
There will always be some compensation in the form of reputation and appreciation. Some people would be happy with that, if they also had basic life support paid for. I program because I enjoy it and because there are programs I want that no one else has written. I'm lucky because I can also program for (lots of) money, but I'd do it regardless.
The flaw here is that someone somewhere has to devote their time to providing that basic life support. Someone has to build the houses, grow the food, transpor the food, store the food, build the appliances, transport the appliances, etc.. etc... Unless THOSE people are also adequately compensated the system breaks down.
So either we have a system where a few people are able to feed and house many, our current system, or where everyone feeds and houses themselves, say... pre-feudal europe. Our current economic model is better than any previous economic model. But it still has room for improvement. For one thing people should be allowed to choose where their taxes go. That way no one would be paying to find out how many eggs a sturgeon lays or how much catsup the US eats....
Unless they were interested in that sort of thing.
Kintanon
In my books, there's really not much difference between shooting deer with a rifle or dropping 1000lbs. of cluster-bombs on the same site. The deer has just about as much awareness, or ability to take evasive action.
Nor, in my books, is there any difference between deer hunting, whale hunting, hare coursing, fox hunting, badger baiting or any other similar pursuits. There's no "challange", no uncertainty in the results, no respect for the life you're about to erase, no compassion for the animal or anything dependent on it.
As for American Football, it's just Rugby with armour and some glamour girls on the sidelines. Like modern hunting, all the reality is removed and you're left with an empty shell. Desensitised and meaningless.
Personally, if I were running something like Pinkerton's program, I'd have those two activities as the two strongest indicators of a sociopath.
Do you group the slaughtering of a few thousand cows and pigs by repeated blows to the skull in with the hunting pursuits? Or would that make it harder to eat your Double Quarter pounder with cheese? How much respect and compassion did you have for that bacon you ate for breakfast? Unless you are a complete vegan you are being unbelievably hypocritical. I AM NOT a vegan, or a vegitarian, I have been hunting, I have spent 4 hours stalking a herd of deer through the woods, silently. I have carefully lined up a shot and taken down a deer. I have cleaned that deer, gutted it, tanned the hide and eaten the meat. It was NOT easy. The Deer are hard as hell to get close enough to to shoot. They blend in with the forest extremely well. Most hunters DO have respect for the animals they hunt, not all, but most. So don't bitch about hunting unless you are also going to bitch about cattle farms and things like that. And doubly, don't bitch about them unless you are Vegan.
Kintanon
This takes us to the crux of the argument, which is whether there can be sufficient motivation for IP creation without IP protection. For the moment, I think the answer is no, and I believe your IP scheme is probably preferable to the status quo. However, in the long run, I think we will move to a gift economy and that this will work even better.
We will never move to a gift economy until each individual has an infinite amount of TIME. You see, when you pay for a piece of IP, or even a copy of IP, you aren't really paying for the item itself, or the copy, you're paying for the amount of TIME that someone has lost for ever in creating that piece of IP. We all have a finite amount of Time, some have more than others, but that makes Time the most valuable commodity we have.
So anything that takes time to create will be valuable in some way. Maybe not to everyone, but to the person that created it. Because that is time they can never get back.
So unless everyone gets compensated for the time they spend volunteering things to the gift economy no one will participate.
Kintanon
For the real assholes, I think they are just kids being kids, trust me though they will grow out of it. Try to stay away from #hAx0Rs and #grits on irc.
The sad thing about it is that these people go anywhere from 12 to 30, and they all act alike. So apparently they don't all grow out of it, and they seem to be in the majority! Just makes it VERY refreshing to play against someone that isn't a jackass....
Kintanon
Go "get off" on women then and stop flaming geeks for "getting off" on 1's and 0's
I'm not flaming anyone for getting off on 1's and 0's. I'm a hardware geek, I wired up my basement and I'm working on the rest of my house now. And usually the people I'm talking about aren't geeks. I've gamed with other geeks, there is an entirely different feel to that kind of gaming than to random server gaming where you run into 20 llamas that like to spew lamer script swear words across the top of the screen through the entire game. Women gamers tend to avoid meaningless swear words. If they trash talk you they do it right.... And if you meet them on IRC or something after the fight they can talk to you without continuing the game trashtalk. Geeks can usually do the same thing. They can switch gears to talking about the best way to run cable through the walls or the best OS to use on my fileserver. But the adolescent male gamers that make up 70% of the gaming population continue to spew the "0wX0r3d b14tCh!!" crap no matter where you run into them. And it doesn't even matter who won the game, they will STILL cream obsceneties.
It's not that they lack social skills, it's that they lack basic manners.
Kintanon
Well way to go associating men with being savages. That's going to win you a lot of respect.
*glances over his post* Hmmm... I can't find the part where I said 'I'm trying to win everyone's respect with this post'. I couldn't give a flying fuck about whether people on this board respect me.... My observation is that a lot of men online, regardless of their age, come across as adolescent imbeciles. It's like as soon as they get away from that face to face contact they revert to the high school jackass mentality, the kind of person that laughs for 20 minutes at a 'fart' joke.
I tend to run into guys between the ages of 17 and 21 in real life, and most of them are still acting that way. I'm not claiming that this is a 100% accurate evaluation, I'm just offering my opinion. Women are just more amusing for me to socialize with than men....
Kintanon
I for one have to say that I prefer to play Q3:A against Females. They tend to be better trashtalkers with less lame gibberish, better players on average, and generally more fun to play with/against. All of the guys I play Q3:A against come off as screaming, hormone enhanced, adolescent losers.
Hmmm... of course so do most of the guys I run into in real life....
Heck, my Wife beats the hell out of me at Tekken and any Racing game you can name....
Anyhow, I'm straying from my point, my point is that it's a good thing that more females are getting onto the net, it means I'll have more victims to frag...>:)
Valis