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It'd be great to build furniture on your own time, you'd make good money (probably) and don't think you'd worry about OT.. I meant factory-style furniture work.. Which I have done before college.. Even the strongest guys get tired of pick up 100lb desk/table/cabinet.. whatever.. put down perfectly.. put in 5-10 screws and then pick it up and move it along all in less than 2 minutes.. It's boring, you're physically exhausted by bedtime, dirty as hell, and god help you if you're bothered by dust and such.. Physical work CAN be rewarding, but I still think most of the/. users would be in hell if they had to try most any manufacturing/factory job out there instead of doing what they do now.. I mean you can't sit on your ass, play with office toys, read slashdot, or eat twinkies while you work in many of the kind of places I'm talking about;)
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You just have to look at it as part of your job.. If you don't like it you have to go somewhere else I guess.. The fact is, they're cutting overtime pay out because they usually just can't afford it.. Whether it's because they're paying their CEOs and whoever wayyy too much is a different matter.. Anyway what I'm saying is, if you did force companies to pay OT a lot of the companies doing this garbage now would basically just lay more people off, then just cut down everyone's salaries to make up for the difference.. If they'r paying you 50,000 (round number) without OT, they'll find a way to pay you 50,000 with OT. Or they can just (try) to do what my last place of business did.. Cut out OT and then rush the hell out of the employees to get the same amount of work done in 40 hours that used to take 50-60 hours.. Sure you'll have increased accidents and errors, but all upper management cares about is how much is getting done overall..
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Being rebuilt with U.S. loans had nothing to do with Americans working their asses off in the factories to sent equipment to aid the allies either I bet right?.. Or Americans putting their lives on the line and dying in a foreign country far away from their loved ones right?..
I know that it wasn't just America.. but I'm sure you're smart enough to see our own sacrifice in the world wars..
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rofl.. This either gets modded down as a troll because the person is saying people have to work hard to get ahead in life.. Or because of the liberal comment.. Which was a lot nicer than most of the anti-bush comments I see that get modded +5 Funny
Times like this I wish I had mod points to offset some of the morons around here..
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While I believe everyone should be granted overtime pay.. Which would the average slashdot poster do? Build furniture 50-60 hours a week, or code.. Seriously.. If you've never had a physical job, you have no idea how much it takes out of you.. If I had to choose which type of person should get OT pay, it'd be the physical laborer that (we assume) doesn't know as much as your average code geek or accountant... I think working in a factory setting vs office setting is already incentive enough to get the training they need.
What difference does it really make though? Are you afraid they're going to call over the intercom that passenger #whatever has this or that wrong with their body? Come on.. This isn't stripping in front of a crowd of sorority girls or something okay? Get over yourself.. You're not so hot these people are going to remember you, you're not too ugly (assumed), and they see thousands and thousands of people.. The people who work at my local grocery store have a hard enough time remembering me.. You aren't gonna get judged anymore with your clothes off than you are with them on.....
uhh.. Why not take it as a compliment? Isn't it nice that you have money for it? If you're ashamed of having (or your parents, I dunno) a little extra cash, tell him to keep it why don't ya? Hell, personally if I did get pissed off about it (and I've heard those comments before about my cheapass cellphone or calculator and such) I'd just grin.. He/she may be pissing you off, but I'm pretty sure they're the one that's feeling the hurt..
As a follow up.. I also wanted to point out that high-price lawyers would also be going for these types of cases just because they'll be making the same amount of money as if they were only representing millionaires and such.. I mean.. Seriously, good lawyers will be able to double.. triple.. etc.. their pay because they'd be able to take on many more cases while charging the same amount of money they might charge on 3 or 4 cases a year as it is.
You talk as if you can magically increase your income to match the expense of paying for a lawyer.
I'm not saying you can magically get a million dollar lawyer, I'm saying you could borrow money.. get friends/family help.. If possible
More likely then not, if you are a good lawyer, you already have a name for yourself, and thus aren't inclined to do pro bono work
I never said pro bono. My point was though this could be the fast track to better things for a good yet inexperienced lawyer.
Also, if they lawyer is good, why would he make a deal that if he loses they'll 'work something else out'? Wouldn't he probably just take a case where he knows he's going to get paid because the client can afford it?
I'm pretty sure I stipulated that the lawyer would want to do it if he/she thought they had a chance of winning the case. They would do it to take a chance.. It's like playing the lottery, but with much much much better odds. No, Mr Million-Dollar-A-Year lawyer isn't going to go for this.. However there are lots of lawyers just barely done with public defender work or ambulance chasing, that just might see their chance to get to the top. I don't see how it could be much worse than it is now..
People can't stick to thier guns if they cannot continue to pay a lawyer. As soon as that happens, the unjustly accused is defenseless, loses the case, and then has even more legal bills to pay.
I'm not going to argue what a law could be corrupted into or whatever.. but.. In a honest loser-pays system.. If the accused is truly innocent, they often could either FIND ways of paying for their lawyer in the mean time knowing they'll win eventually (might be rough, but..) or.. You figure, if I'm a good lawyer trying to break out and make a name for myself.. I go represent Joe.. Joe's being sued by RIAA, but since I'm a pretty good hot shot lawyer.. I know I can win the case for him. I say to Joe, I charge $500,000 to win this case for you.. If we lose, we'll just 'work something out'.. Joe's okay with this, it's better than nothing.. He has a great interest in winning.. If he loses he's going to be in debt anyway.. Since I'm a great lawyer though.. I win, Joe wins, I have $500,000 straight from the pockets of RIAA.
I never said tax cuts to big companies who outsource are good. If you've ever paid attention to anything I've ever posted on slashdot (I only say it about every other post) I am against outsourcing anyway.. I thought you were all for it with your global economy/free trade ideas though.. All I asked for was your reasoning because I didn't understand what you were saying, thanks for the follow up post though. I get what you're saying now.
Just wondering what I missed.. or don't understand.. Where did you get your facts that companies that get tax breaks hire from other countries? If you do have any references, please post as I'm curious.. However, I don't understand why a company getting tax breaks would rather pay taxes anyway to another country..
They deserve the jobs more than the Canadian ones because of the time and work they've already spent, the families they've started that they might not have if they didn't have jobs. They deserve the jobs because they're part of the population that's going to be buying the furniture that the canadian lumber will be used to make.. I'm sure all of this will regulate itself eventually (one day people won't be able to buy imported materials because they don't have the money), but in the mean time.. Companies like the one I used to work at are closing down, putting hundreds of people out of work each time. Sure some of the ones in management and sales will get jobs in other places.. However plenty of people have family histories at these place, grandfather, father, son.. Instead of going to college they just went into the factories.. Spent 20-30 years there.. Now with familes and mortgages, someone who may have been really skilled and making half decent money at a manufacturing job has to work at McDonalds or spend money he doesn't have to move near another factory where he'll get an entrylevel job again.. Only to have that factory close on him too. I'm not saying Americans deserve jobs because they're Americans.. I'm saying that when people in other countries undercut prices, they ruin families here, men and women who have been working their whole lives.
It may give them the ability to raise prices, but they probably won't. Why is that you ask? Well.. If memory from one place is going up 44%, Micron would automatically get more sales. Think about it for a while. Micron will be making more money just because their prices aren't being undercut. Why would they raise prices? They want places like Dell to keep buying from them.
I'm off to bed, but I just wanted to rant.. YOU mentioned chess first, not me. That's why I mentioned the chess club etc.. I was just saying if that was your thing..
I do live in NC right now and I was naming off some places, but I've lived in other areas with fine parks.. No not NYC or LA, but still.. Anyway if the parks are that bad (and I know places like central park are) I would say more cops could help, otherwise it's out.. Fact is though every day many many people go to central park and such without any problem.. You say that it's bad because people sell drugs in parks.. Well.. In NYC you can get drugs on about every corner, when you walk out of a youth group the dealers will be happy to tempt you. You cannot get rid of this element, it was started long before we were born.. With roots being in places we've never been to.
You kindof contridict yourself though, I was just pointing out that what you want is already out there.. I never said that all kids have to be geeks or athletes (I consider myself both, including some other things thrown in).. I was only saying what you want can be pretty much found already, and I don't agree that a whole community is responsible for raising children. It's my personal opinion that if you have time to have kids, you should have time to take care of them. Of course I know what you're going to respond to that though so don't bother.. My only question is.. How will you get kids to go to your community centers instead of parties? I've never been much of a party guy myself.. but the ones I've been too were fun for most people, usually plenty of alcohol and sex.. and in America.. You'll be hard pressed to find someone that doesn't love those things =P
You tell me to have compassion, but you should know from my other posts that it's not that I don't have compassion.. It's just that I enjoy playing devil's advocate and finding holes.. finding motives.. better understanding the opinions..
Just the thing I had a problem with, was that.. You're saying the people that would go to these groups or whatever are kids that:
1. Go to parties and raves instead
2. Buy and sell drugs
3. Hate cops (authority)
I'm NOT THAT OLD, I'm a college freshman straight out of HS.. Society hasn't changed that much, I know how it is.. My point wasn't that kids and families are just like leave it to beaver and only 2 or 3 kids are bad and we can deal with them.. No no.. My point is only I don't see people going to the youth group that couldn't already find something else to do.. I'm sure some people want a way out, but those people are going to need more than Hanzo's Local Youth Group opening up in their city.
We need more than just geeky library hangouts for our kids, we need true afterschool programs, meaning internet cafes, tvs, pool tables, chess, and lots of people who are adults and good rolemodels. We need to do a backround check to make sure they dont have a criminal record, we need to make sure they have a good viewpoint on education and that they have something to teach the kids, then we put these kids around mature successful adults in a safe enviornment it would really help them.
We have lots of things for kids these days.. Parks.. Public pools.. and while libraries may not be cool, they do usually have the internet.. Personally, I'd rather be seen in a library than a computer cafe as far as the geek factor goes.. TVs.. Well.. You can find at home or friends' homes.. Plus, most if not all schools have junior sports.. There are often local clubs for chess, foreign languages, and even stuff like computers and astronomy for even young children.. All of these places I've mentioned are in my own little area which is out in the middle of no where NC (oh and did I mention farm work as an afterschool hobby?;P) I KNOW there are many more privately funded resources in the big cities..
My own "afterschool program" was spending evenings at one of my friends' houses, church, library, baseball, football, a little tennis, yard work, and of course the usual.. Watching tv and playing nintendo..
The fact is, you can have ALL the after school programs you want, but you can't force kids to go to them. Better role models are required at home, in school, and law enforcement can play a big role in this. My point is, you can almost always find free or charity funded programs out there.. It's the parents' or the kid's fault for not going there. Maybe the kid was led into the underworld so to speak and you can't really blame him for not wanting on the school football team, but then again.. A government subsidized youth center isn't going to change that fact.. I have a habit of rambling, but I think you should understand what I'm saying.
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If engineers make a roll cage that can protect 4+ occupants and keep the equipment inside the car from killing them anyway, then that's great. I didn't mean to sound as if there couldn't be new engineering ideas which would allow safety of everyone involved. However.. Indy cars are totally different from the cars we drive on the road, they do not house the equipment we have, they do not seat more than one person, they are uncomfortable, and they aren't designed to withstand normal conditions. I'm not saying the safety features couldn't EVER be implemented in a passenger car, but these are totally different situations and an engineering nightmare. Trust me, the car manufacturers would LOVE to sell cars that don't hurt anyone and even force you to get a whole new car (paid by you or insurance, they don't care)..
We are currently not at that stage yet is all I'm saying, and I believe the current technology is very unsafe for the car's occupants in many two car collisions. Then again, there aren't many cars at all that can withstand a 70-80mph head on collision..
Right now, I think the best idea would be to better teach people how to drive.. My driver ed guy was about 95% right when he said that the driver can always prevent a crash. The 5% would be some extreme like other person drunk driving, homicide, or... bridge collapsing beneath you or something..
Uhh.. Dude.. I live not far from the city I work/shop/play in =p It's in NC, but I have 20 acres and a *new* house.. The land and house together were just under $100,000.. You just need to learn how to shop around buddy..
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Just call it the bumper car theory =P The simple fact that people don't freaking understand though, is that degrading the.. for lack of a better word.. exoskeleton of the car.. Doesn't help anyone. Anyone that has seen high speed car wrecks would see, if a "weak" car hits anything else including another weak car.. It's fucked. It's like... Well, crumple up two pieces of aluminum foil.. Make yourself a simulated crash (smoosh them together). They both flatten out, right? Do the same thing with some plastic, at a high rate of speed it breaks.. Now you take like steel ball bearings or something.. No effect right?.. Same thing with heavy composite plastics (stuff that "indestructable" items are made out of).. Close to no effect again.. Get the point? People who think cars should be made to crumple on impact are thinking backwards;(
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That's not 100% safe though because someone could still be hit and suffer injury or worse from it. Little thought involved from you here.
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Love how the people with no sense of humor (or reality) feel the need to post AC..
It'd be great to build furniture on your own time, you'd make good money (probably) and don't think you'd worry about OT.. I meant factory-style furniture work.. Which I have done before college.. Even the strongest guys get tired of pick up 100lb desk/table/cabinet.. whatever.. put down perfectly.. put in 5-10 screws and then pick it up and move it along all in less than 2 minutes.. It's boring, you're physically exhausted by bedtime, dirty as hell, and god help you if you're bothered by dust and such.. Physical work CAN be rewarding, but I still think most of the /. users would be in hell if they had to try most any manufacturing/factory job out there instead of doing what they do now.. I mean you can't sit on your ass, play with office toys, read slashdot, or eat twinkies while you work in many of the kind of places I'm talking about ;)
You just have to look at it as part of your job.. If you don't like it you have to go somewhere else I guess.. The fact is, they're cutting overtime pay out because they usually just can't afford it.. Whether it's because they're paying their CEOs and whoever wayyy too much is a different matter.. Anyway what I'm saying is, if you did force companies to pay OT a lot of the companies doing this garbage now would basically just lay more people off, then just cut down everyone's salaries to make up for the difference.. If they'r paying you 50,000 (round number) without OT, they'll find a way to pay you 50,000 with OT. Or they can just (try) to do what my last place of business did.. Cut out OT and then rush the hell out of the employees to get the same amount of work done in 40 hours that used to take 50-60 hours.. Sure you'll have increased accidents and errors, but all upper management cares about is how much is getting done overall..
Being rebuilt with U.S. loans had nothing to do with Americans working their asses off in the factories to sent equipment to aid the allies either I bet right?.. Or Americans putting their lives on the line and dying in a foreign country far away from their loved ones right?..
I know that it wasn't just America.. but I'm sure you're smart enough to see our own sacrifice in the world wars..
rofl.. This either gets modded down as a troll because the person is saying people have to work hard to get ahead in life.. Or because of the liberal comment.. Which was a lot nicer than most of the anti-bush comments I see that get modded +5 Funny
Times like this I wish I had mod points to offset some of the morons around here..
While I believe everyone should be granted overtime pay.. Which would the average slashdot poster do? Build furniture 50-60 hours a week, or code.. Seriously.. If you've never had a physical job, you have no idea how much it takes out of you.. If I had to choose which type of person should get OT pay, it'd be the physical laborer that (we assume) doesn't know as much as your average code geek or accountant... I think working in a factory setting vs office setting is already incentive enough to get the training they need.
What difference does it really make though? Are you afraid they're going to call over the intercom that passenger #whatever has this or that wrong with their body? Come on.. This isn't stripping in front of a crowd of sorority girls or something okay? Get over yourself.. You're not so hot these people are going to remember you, you're not too ugly (assumed), and they see thousands and thousands of people.. The people who work at my local grocery store have a hard enough time remembering me.. You aren't gonna get judged anymore with your clothes off than you are with them on.....
uhh.. Why not take it as a compliment? Isn't it nice that you have money for it? If you're ashamed of having (or your parents, I dunno) a little extra cash, tell him to keep it why don't ya? Hell, personally if I did get pissed off about it (and I've heard those comments before about my cheapass cellphone or calculator and such) I'd just grin.. He/she may be pissing you off, but I'm pretty sure they're the one that's feeling the hurt..
As a follow up.. I also wanted to point out that high-price lawyers would also be going for these types of cases just because they'll be making the same amount of money as if they were only representing millionaires and such.. I mean.. Seriously, good lawyers will be able to double.. triple.. etc.. their pay because they'd be able to take on many more cases while charging the same amount of money they might charge on 3 or 4 cases a year as it is.
Since you're stubborn, please explain to me how it's so much better to have a bad lawyer that's going to lose your case anyway.
You talk as if you can magically increase your income to match the expense of paying for a lawyer.
I'm not saying you can magically get a million dollar lawyer, I'm saying you could borrow money.. get friends/family help.. If possible
More likely then not, if you are a good lawyer, you already have a name for yourself, and thus aren't inclined to do pro bono work I never said pro bono. My point was though this could be the fast track to better things for a good yet inexperienced lawyer.
Also, if they lawyer is good, why would he make a deal that if he loses they'll 'work something else out'? Wouldn't he probably just take a case where he knows he's going to get paid because the client can afford it?
I'm pretty sure I stipulated that the lawyer would want to do it if he/she thought they had a chance of winning the case. They would do it to take a chance.. It's like playing the lottery, but with much much much better odds. No, Mr Million-Dollar-A-Year lawyer isn't going to go for this.. However there are lots of lawyers just barely done with public defender work or ambulance chasing, that just might see their chance to get to the top. I don't see how it could be much worse than it is now..
People can't stick to thier guns if they cannot continue to pay a lawyer. As soon as that happens, the unjustly accused is defenseless, loses the case, and then has even more legal bills to pay.
I'm not going to argue what a law could be corrupted into or whatever.. but.. In a honest loser-pays system.. If the accused is truly innocent, they often could either FIND ways of paying for their lawyer in the mean time knowing they'll win eventually (might be rough, but..) or.. You figure, if I'm a good lawyer trying to break out and make a name for myself.. I go represent Joe.. Joe's being sued by RIAA, but since I'm a pretty good hot shot lawyer.. I know I can win the case for him. I say to Joe, I charge $500,000 to win this case for you.. If we lose, we'll just 'work something out'.. Joe's okay with this, it's better than nothing.. He has a great interest in winning.. If he loses he's going to be in debt anyway.. Since I'm a great lawyer though.. I win, Joe wins, I have $500,000 straight from the pockets of RIAA.
I hope they do put tracking devices in cellphones.. Then should I ever want to commit a crime, I'll leave my cellphone at home.. Instant alibi.
I never said tax cuts to big companies who outsource are good. If you've ever paid attention to anything I've ever posted on slashdot (I only say it about every other post) I am against outsourcing anyway.. I thought you were all for it with your global economy/free trade ideas though.. All I asked for was your reasoning because I didn't understand what you were saying, thanks for the follow up post though. I get what you're saying now.
Just wondering what I missed.. or don't understand.. Where did you get your facts that companies that get tax breaks hire from other countries? If you do have any references, please post as I'm curious.. However, I don't understand why a company getting tax breaks would rather pay taxes anyway to another country..
Do you even know what you're talking about? Didn't think so.
They deserve the jobs more than the Canadian ones because of the time and work they've already spent, the families they've started that they might not have if they didn't have jobs. They deserve the jobs because they're part of the population that's going to be buying the furniture that the canadian lumber will be used to make.. I'm sure all of this will regulate itself eventually (one day people won't be able to buy imported materials because they don't have the money), but in the mean time.. Companies like the one I used to work at are closing down, putting hundreds of people out of work each time. Sure some of the ones in management and sales will get jobs in other places.. However plenty of people have family histories at these place, grandfather, father, son.. Instead of going to college they just went into the factories.. Spent 20-30 years there.. Now with familes and mortgages, someone who may have been really skilled and making half decent money at a manufacturing job has to work at McDonalds or spend money he doesn't have to move near another factory where he'll get an entrylevel job again.. Only to have that factory close on him too. I'm not saying Americans deserve jobs because they're Americans.. I'm saying that when people in other countries undercut prices, they ruin families here, men and women who have been working their whole lives.
It may give them the ability to raise prices, but they probably won't. Why is that you ask? Well.. If memory from one place is going up 44%, Micron would automatically get more sales. Think about it for a while. Micron will be making more money just because their prices aren't being undercut. Why would they raise prices? They want places like Dell to keep buying from them.
I'm off to bed, but I just wanted to rant.. YOU mentioned chess first, not me. That's why I mentioned the chess club etc.. I was just saying if that was your thing..
I do live in NC right now and I was naming off some places, but I've lived in other areas with fine parks.. No not NYC or LA, but still.. Anyway if the parks are that bad (and I know places like central park are) I would say more cops could help, otherwise it's out.. Fact is though every day many many people go to central park and such without any problem.. You say that it's bad because people sell drugs in parks.. Well.. In NYC you can get drugs on about every corner, when you walk out of a youth group the dealers will be happy to tempt you. You cannot get rid of this element, it was started long before we were born.. With roots being in places we've never been to.
You kindof contridict yourself though, I was just pointing out that what you want is already out there.. I never said that all kids have to be geeks or athletes (I consider myself both, including some other things thrown in).. I was only saying what you want can be pretty much found already, and I don't agree that a whole community is responsible for raising children. It's my personal opinion that if you have time to have kids, you should have time to take care of them. Of course I know what you're going to respond to that though so don't bother.. My only question is.. How will you get kids to go to your community centers instead of parties? I've never been much of a party guy myself.. but the ones I've been too were fun for most people, usually plenty of alcohol and sex.. and in America.. You'll be hard pressed to find someone that doesn't love those things =P
You tell me to have compassion, but you should know from my other posts that it's not that I don't have compassion.. It's just that I enjoy playing devil's advocate and finding holes.. finding motives.. better understanding the opinions..
Just the thing I had a problem with, was that.. You're saying the people that would go to these groups or whatever are kids that:
1. Go to parties and raves instead
2. Buy and sell drugs
3. Hate cops (authority)
I'm NOT THAT OLD, I'm a college freshman straight out of HS.. Society hasn't changed that much, I know how it is.. My point wasn't that kids and families are just like leave it to beaver and only 2 or 3 kids are bad and we can deal with them.. No no.. My point is only I don't see people going to the youth group that couldn't already find something else to do.. I'm sure some people want a way out, but those people are going to need more than Hanzo's Local Youth Group opening up in their city.
We need more than just geeky library hangouts for our kids, we need true afterschool programs, meaning internet cafes, tvs, pool tables, chess, and lots of people who are adults and good rolemodels. We need to do a backround check to make sure they dont have a criminal record, we need to make sure they have a good viewpoint on education and that they have something to teach the kids, then we put these kids around mature successful adults in a safe enviornment it would really help them.
;P) I KNOW there are many more privately funded resources in the big cities..
We have lots of things for kids these days.. Parks.. Public pools.. and while libraries may not be cool, they do usually have the internet.. Personally, I'd rather be seen in a library than a computer cafe as far as the geek factor goes.. TVs.. Well.. You can find at home or friends' homes.. Plus, most if not all schools have junior sports.. There are often local clubs for chess, foreign languages, and even stuff like computers and astronomy for even young children.. All of these places I've mentioned are in my own little area which is out in the middle of no where NC (oh and did I mention farm work as an afterschool hobby?
My own "afterschool program" was spending evenings at one of my friends' houses, church, library, baseball, football, a little tennis, yard work, and of course the usual.. Watching tv and playing nintendo..
The fact is, you can have ALL the after school programs you want, but you can't force kids to go to them. Better role models are required at home, in school, and law enforcement can play a big role in this. My point is, you can almost always find free or charity funded programs out there.. It's the parents' or the kid's fault for not going there. Maybe the kid was led into the underworld so to speak and you can't really blame him for not wanting on the school football team, but then again.. A government subsidized youth center isn't going to change that fact.. I have a habit of rambling, but I think you should understand what I'm saying.
If engineers make a roll cage that can protect 4+ occupants and keep the equipment inside the car from killing them anyway, then that's great. I didn't mean to sound as if there couldn't be new engineering ideas which would allow safety of everyone involved.
However.. Indy cars are totally different from the cars we drive on the road, they do not house the equipment we have, they do not seat more than one person, they are uncomfortable, and they aren't designed to withstand normal conditions. I'm not saying the safety features couldn't EVER be implemented in a passenger car, but these are totally different situations and an engineering nightmare. Trust me, the car manufacturers would LOVE to sell cars that don't hurt anyone and even force you to get a whole new car (paid by you or insurance, they don't care)..
We are currently not at that stage yet is all I'm saying, and I believe the current technology is very unsafe for the car's occupants in many two car collisions. Then again, there aren't many cars at all that can withstand a 70-80mph head on collision..
Right now, I think the best idea would be to better teach people how to drive.. My driver ed guy was about 95% right when he said that the driver can always prevent a crash. The 5% would be some extreme like other person drunk driving, homicide, or... bridge collapsing beneath you or something..
Uhh.. Dude.. I live not far from the city I work/shop/play in =p It's in NC, but I have 20 acres and a *new* house.. The land and house together were just under $100,000.. You just need to learn how to shop around buddy..
Excuse the bold crap, forgot to preview and see my mistake..
Just call it the bumper car theory =P The simple fact that people don't freaking understand though, is that degrading the.. for lack of a better word.. exoskeleton of the car.. Doesn't help anyone. Anyone that has seen high speed car wrecks would see, if a "weak" car hits anything else including another weak car.. It's fucked. It's like... Well, crumple up two pieces of aluminum foil.. Make yourself a simulated crash (smoosh them together). They both flatten out, right? Do the same thing with some plastic, at a high rate of speed it breaks.. Now you take like steel ball bearings or something.. No effect right?.. Same thing with heavy composite plastics (stuff that "indestructable" items are made out of).. Close to no effect again.. Get the point? People who think cars should be made to crumple on impact are thinking backwards ;(
That's not 100% safe though because someone could still be hit and suffer injury or worse from it. Little thought involved from you here.
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Nothing is impossible.
Actually, lots of things are impossible.
Yes, please do.
If you agree with the person, at least take your own advice.
Love how the people with no sense of humor (or reality) feel the need to post AC..