First Data (if you don't know what they do, just look it up) already volunteered their services to the Bush administration and the Pentagon (they now make up one of the inputs to T.I.A.) immediately after those attacks on 9/11/01 - so that, takes care of that.....
Remember, many of them think the bill of rights "grants" too much freedom.
This sentiment derives from several polls taken - but what wasn't elucidated from those polls was the background of the pollees.
The majority of those stating the bill of rights "grants" too much freedom were of Eastern European ancestry, and such an ethnic background strongly accented their responses.
Democracy in America should never back imbued with any Eastern European thinking, which is anathema to the Magna Carta and the basis for Western Democracy. A Pole or an Albanian isn't the measurement of human freedom and dignity. (Never could stand this groups, anyway.....they are also overrepresented in wife-beating groups as well.)
..but I don't ever remember it about being about customers..
While it has been quite some time since I worked at M$/Redmond, it was never, ever about the customers - EVERYTHING about McSoftware is about keeping a massive firewall between THEM and the unwashed customer masses. So I thoroughly agree with your post, Citizen yagu....and now that firewall is mostly made up of various and assorted Punjabis, etc.
They know that need the support of these guys if they are going to win this thing.
Man, you don't even make ONE bit of sense in any of your meandering rambling --- your post ain't even in the category of discourse, dood.
Win what thing? The occupation? How does one win an occupation?
It no longer matters why we went to war. The fact right now, today, this second is that we are there. Now we have to decide if we want to take the easy way out, or the right way.
The right way? Listen, you sociopathic 'tard, two amoral actions don't add up to a moral solution! There exists no valid reason for the foreign invaders of America - and the puppet government they installed - to continue to occupy Iraq and mistreat the Iraqi people. As to the "right way" - such a way obviously escapes your amoral compass.....Do some research as to the behavior of the PMCs over there along with all those transnational corporate pirates operating there....learn something for a change....
So, Traitor ArcherB, you DO support the soldiers of America by offering them up to useless deaths for an Islamic Theocracy which has legalized Pedophilia?
What kind of miscreant are you? I definitely DO NOT support the foreign invaders of ANY country, which includes the American invaders of Iraq. Thousands died in vain in the war I was drafted into (Vietnam) as they are dying for nothing more than the loot from Iraq and the American Treasury to go to Halliburton and other Bush cronies.
the wiretapping was between calls from the US to out of the country for the purpose of national security. The legality of this is far from clear.
Why do you make such clearly dishonest statements? Are you privy to some esoteric information hidden from the rest of us??? Do you work at the Penta(costal)gon, perhaps??
To those of us with any data communications' background, the placement of sniffer programs and hardware at IXP sites around the country demonstrates THEY have the capacity to do whatever they like, etc., etc., etc. Speak truth, or speak not....
The engineer cited in this news article is frequently cited as the engineering expert for claims that the WTC Towers collapsed "normally" and from those two jets crashing into them.....What credibility rating would you give him?????
Perhaps, Good Citizen whisper jeff, but to those of us who wish to grow gills when so much of the planet has become covered with ever more water (I guess you'd have to be a real Aquaman fan to appreciate the future) - just prior to the resulting Ice Age, think it may just be durned fun......
Thanks to the availability of commercial satellite photos, many were able to see the next-day satellite photos of the Pentagon after the 9/11/01 attack. I hope everyone noted the scorch marks still on the Pentagon's roof which clearly denoted a dead-center strike on that one wall.
Interesting how the one way to do the least amount of damage to the Pentagon (striking the wall using the most difficult flying maneuver instead of performing the easiest flying maneuver and striking the Pentagon's top to do the most damage --- and striking the one reinforced wall) was used.....
And other gibberish..... With over 300,000 National Security Letters implemented by the FBI on American citizens, with said NSL having multiple data acquisitions, and many of those simply on anti-war protesters, it is most obvious to all (except moronic types such as N8F8) that much of this has nothing to do with any phony anti-terrorism efforts.
Again and again, so WTF is Osama...these clowns like N8F8 always refuse to address this problem....what the f**k does this have to do with catching that Bush Crime Family friend, Osama......
As many citizens as possible must incorporate, then obtain all that so-called private information on the Verizon execs and all federal-level elected politicians, Congresspeople, Bushevik administration personnel, etc., then publish said info for all to see.......including those private all-boy club memberships, etc.....
Well....there has been that fiction, promulgated on a head note found on an 1886 case law book - and SCOTUS and the fed courts have been wrongfully using that as precedent ever since....but those "human rights" accorded to a corporation aren't that broad....
Gee, why wouldn't anyone believe these analysts....why, people have started to say Halliburton may move their corporate headquarters to Dubai sometime soon.....even though they moved it sometime ago.....
It saddens me to say this, but it is now time for the French citizenry to read de Tocqueville'sDemocracy in America (something, admittedly, far too few Americans have read).
As a descendant of one who served beside Lafayette, it saddens me to see the French go down a similar (although hopefully not exact) path as the US of feeble sheeple.
It's worse than that....I believe if you keep going back a few more generations you'll find he comes from cattle-rustling stock. (Remember that Olde Wild West poster: "Cattle rustlers and other varmints will be hung.")
Or maybe that pertained to the Bush Crime Family.....
Billg typically has his eyes closed and he's rocking back and forth. He could be asleep; he could be thinking about something else; he could be listening intently to everything you're saying.
He could be fantasizing about Melissa??????
21st Century Reading List:
American Dynasty by Kevin Phillips, Blood Money by T. Christian Miller, Hostile Takeover by David Sirota, The Bush Agenda by Antonia Juhasz, Armed Madhouse by Greg Palast, Jacked and also Other People's Money by Nomi Prins, Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins, No Place To Hide by Robert O'Harrow, What Every American Should Know About Who's Really Running the World by Melissa L. Rossi, War is a Racket by General Smedley Butler, Licensed to Kill by Robert Young Pelton, Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace by Gore Vidal
While Mr. Madsen presents one possible, and likely, scenario, it is important to realize that with the advent of the Bushevik administration there are now something like 61 commercial databases currently under government contract and online - constantly being accessed by the TIA organization: everything from ChoicePoint (sometime take a look at their current and previous directors) to OnStar with First Data volunteering their databases.....
Given that the firm, Blackwater USA, is responsible for performing the security background checks on TSA employees (I believe there was a news article several months back where four recently hired employees in the Seattle-Tacoma area were convicted - and jailed - for pilfering luggage - another fine Blackwater USA mission accomplished!), any compromised data is pretty much a moot point......
No offense, Citizen aurispector, but both you and the one you are posting to are clueless.
The capital borrowed from China is actually tied to those American jobs being offshored there, the weak point is that a bunch of the capital borrowed from the Middle Kingdom is then used to buy war materiel from them for the US's occupation of Iraq and anti-humanitarian farting around in Afghanistan (trust me, this combat vet knows whereof he speaks) - not an economic loop, but a one-way quick drain. When the situation becomes really tense, the corporate rulers in America will concoct some reason to send a nuke barrage to China - or vice-versa - either way, it is not the correct or proper human way to do things.
The stuff that is happening isn't quite as haphazard as it sounds, in fact, if you've ever bother to study history, it sounds rather repetative......
Shame there's all these pesky immigration laws that keep people from moving as freely as the work does.
Sounds as if you've really thought this out...No, just kidding...sounds like you flunked any critical thinking skills course you've ever taken!
If one had to continuously move everytime their job was offshored, the economic devastation would be approximately equal or greater - nothing gained, in other words.....You have to think things through from the economic vantage point - strongly recommend you read Ricardo, Veblen, Keynes, Henry George, Jean-Baptiste Say and a bunch of other real economists.....
Actually, treason is traitors at work. If a fellow countryman offshores your job - that individual is a stinking traitor. If a fellow countryman lays you off and replaces you with a legal, quasi-legal or illegal foreign replacement worker, that individual is a stinking traitor.
Traitors should be dealt with in the most severest manner possible.....
Stand up for yourself. Have some self respect. Do not train your replacements.
I heartily agree with your sentiments, Good Citizen HomelessinLaJolla, unfortunately, far too many Americans today only qualify as Sheeple, so such stalwart suggestions will fall by the wayside. We are waaaay overdue for a one million armed man march on the nation's capitol.....
Dood, you are living in candyland....the offshoring will not only continue unabated, it will likewise continue to grow. The level of the typical CEO today is even below that of the typical US general officer, which is truly pathetically low due to ever increasing corrupt selection practices over the past 26 years (in the USA).
Saying that outsourcing (offshoring) isn't working is liking forever claiming there's some sort of "Iraq war", when anyone with an IQ above an insect realizes it is an occupation. Word up - catch a clue.....
There is NO ONE in Bangalore available. Where does IBM think they'll get 150,000 engineers?
What are you talking about, dood???? Since when does Korporate AmeriKa give a rat's ass about qualified?? Everyone is a module - are you aware how few, if any, corps actually vetted any of those non-American, offshored slots?? Crappy coding has no bearing on the matter - meanwhile, all those TRAITOR NEOCONs stateside will continue to claim none of the quality programmers will have difficulty getting jobs.
Everyday, over 1 billion people use the products I had a hand in creating.....
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Many years ago they did just that in Armonk, NY. Then the entire town swallowed itself.....(see the movie).
First Data (if you don't know what they do, just look it up) already volunteered their services to the Bush administration and the Pentagon (they now make up one of the inputs to T.I.A.) immediately after those attacks on 9/11/01 - so that, takes care of that.....
This sentiment derives from several polls taken - but what wasn't elucidated from those polls was the background of the pollees.
The majority of those stating the bill of rights "grants" too much freedom were of Eastern European ancestry, and such an ethnic background strongly accented their responses.
Democracy in America should never back imbued with any Eastern European thinking, which is anathema to the Magna Carta and the basis for Western Democracy. A Pole or an Albanian isn't the measurement of human freedom and dignity. (Never could stand this groups, anyway.....they are also overrepresented in wife-beating groups as well.)
While it has been quite some time since I worked at M$/Redmond, it was never, ever about the customers - EVERYTHING about McSoftware is about keeping a massive firewall between THEM and the unwashed customer masses. So I thoroughly agree with your post, Citizen yagu....and now that firewall is mostly made up of various and assorted Punjabis, etc.
Man, you don't even make ONE bit of sense in any of your meandering rambling --- your post ain't even in the category of discourse, dood.
Win what thing? The occupation? How does one win an occupation?
It no longer matters why we went to war. The fact right now, today, this second is that we are there. Now we have to decide if we want to take the easy way out, or the right way.
The right way? Listen, you sociopathic 'tard, two amoral actions don't add up to a moral solution! There exists no valid reason for the foreign invaders of America - and the puppet government they installed - to continue to occupy Iraq and mistreat the Iraqi people. As to the "right way" - such a way obviously escapes your amoral compass.....Do some research as to the behavior of the PMCs over there along with all those transnational corporate pirates operating there....learn something for a change....
What kind of miscreant are you? I definitely DO NOT support the foreign invaders of ANY country, which includes the American invaders of Iraq. Thousands died in vain in the war I was drafted into (Vietnam) as they are dying for nothing more than the loot from Iraq and the American Treasury to go to Halliburton and other Bush cronies.
Why do you make such clearly dishonest statements? Are you privy to some esoteric information hidden from the rest of us??? Do you work at the Penta(costal)gon, perhaps??
To those of us with any data communications' background, the placement of sniffer programs and hardware at IXP sites around the country demonstrates THEY have the capacity to do whatever they like, etc., etc., etc. Speak truth, or speak not....
The engineer cited in this news article is frequently cited as the engineering expert for claims that the WTC Towers collapsed "normally" and from those two jets crashing into them.....What credibility rating would you give him?????
Women will be dressing down more, but they always want better air conditioning for randy acts to take place......
Perhaps, Good Citizen whisper jeff, but to those of us who wish to grow gills when so much of the planet has become covered with ever more water (I guess you'd have to be a real Aquaman fan to appreciate the future) - just prior to the resulting Ice Age, think it may just be durned fun......
Interesting how the one way to do the least amount of damage to the Pentagon (striking the wall using the most difficult flying maneuver instead of performing the easiest flying maneuver and striking the Pentagon's top to do the most damage --- and striking the one reinforced wall) was used.....
And other gibberish..... With over 300,000 National Security Letters implemented by the FBI on American citizens, with said NSL having multiple data acquisitions, and many of those simply on anti-war protesters, it is most obvious to all (except moronic types such as N8F8) that much of this has nothing to do with any phony anti-terrorism efforts.
Again and again, so WTF is Osama...these clowns like N8F8 always refuse to address this problem....what the f**k does this have to do with catching that Bush Crime Family friend, Osama......
As many citizens as possible must incorporate, then obtain all that so-called private information on the Verizon execs and all federal-level elected politicians, Congresspeople, Bushevik administration personnel, etc., then publish said info for all to see.......including those private all-boy club memberships, etc.....
Well....there has been that fiction, promulgated on a head note found on an 1886 case law book - and SCOTUS and the fed courts have been wrongfully using that as precedent ever since....but those "human rights" accorded to a corporation aren't that broad....
Gee, why wouldn't anyone believe these analysts....why, people have started to say Halliburton may move their corporate headquarters to Dubai sometime soon.....even though they moved it sometime ago.....
As a descendant of one who served beside Lafayette, it saddens me to see the French go down a similar (although hopefully not exact) path as the US of feeble sheeple.
Or maybe that pertained to the Bush Crime Family.....
He could be fantasizing about Melissa??????
21st Century Reading List:
American Dynasty by Kevin Phillips, Blood Money by T. Christian Miller, Hostile Takeover by David Sirota, The Bush Agenda by Antonia Juhasz, Armed Madhouse by Greg Palast, Jacked and also Other People's Money by Nomi Prins, Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins, No Place To Hide by Robert O'Harrow, What Every American Should Know About Who's Really Running the World by Melissa L. Rossi, War is a Racket by General Smedley Butler, Licensed to Kill by Robert Young Pelton, Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace by Gore Vidal
While Mr. Madsen presents one possible, and likely, scenario, it is important to realize that with the advent of the Bushevik administration there are now something like 61 commercial databases currently under government contract and online - constantly being accessed by the TIA organization: everything from ChoicePoint (sometime take a look at their current and previous directors) to OnStar with First Data volunteering their databases.....
Given that the firm, Blackwater USA, is responsible for performing the security background checks on TSA employees (I believe there was a news article several months back where four recently hired employees in the Seattle-Tacoma area were convicted - and jailed - for pilfering luggage - another fine Blackwater USA mission accomplished!), any compromised data is pretty much a moot point......
The capital borrowed from China is actually tied to those American jobs being offshored there, the weak point is that a bunch of the capital borrowed from the Middle Kingdom is then used to buy war materiel from them for the US's occupation of Iraq and anti-humanitarian farting around in Afghanistan (trust me, this combat vet knows whereof he speaks) - not an economic loop, but a one-way quick drain. When the situation becomes really tense, the corporate rulers in America will concoct some reason to send a nuke barrage to China - or vice-versa - either way, it is not the correct or proper human way to do things.
The stuff that is happening isn't quite as haphazard as it sounds, in fact, if you've ever bother to study history, it sounds rather repetative......
Sounds as if you've really thought this out...No, just kidding...sounds like you flunked any critical thinking skills course you've ever taken!
If one had to continuously move everytime their job was offshored, the economic devastation would be approximately equal or greater - nothing gained, in other words.....You have to think things through from the economic vantage point - strongly recommend you read Ricardo, Veblen, Keynes, Henry George, Jean-Baptiste Say and a bunch of other real economists.....
Actually, treason is traitors at work. If a fellow countryman offshores your job - that individual is a stinking traitor. If a fellow countryman lays you off and replaces you with a legal, quasi-legal or illegal foreign replacement worker, that individual is a stinking traitor.
Traitors should be dealt with in the most severest manner possible.....
I heartily agree with your sentiments, Good Citizen HomelessinLaJolla, unfortunately, far too many Americans today only qualify as Sheeple, so such stalwart suggestions will fall by the wayside. We are waaaay overdue for a one million armed man march on the nation's capitol.....
Saying that outsourcing (offshoring) isn't working is liking forever claiming there's some sort of "Iraq war", when anyone with an IQ above an insect realizes it is an occupation. Word up - catch a clue.....
What are you talking about, dood???? Since when does Korporate AmeriKa give a rat's ass about qualified?? Everyone is a module - are you aware how few, if any, corps actually vetted any of those non-American, offshored slots?? Crappy coding has no bearing on the matter - meanwhile, all those TRAITOR NEOCONs stateside will continue to claim none of the quality programmers will have difficulty getting jobs.
Everyday, over 1 billion people use the products I had a hand in creating.....