If this last remastering followed in the progressively worse steps of the previous 3 or 4, I suspect that it would be hardly recognizable as the Beatles.
A quick Google shows that it's probably about the same dreck as the 2000 CDs, based on reviews from people who really know.
I wouldn't be too sure. The 24 bit lossless release from late last year is a dramatically better mastering than I've heard before. IF (and I don't know if they are, but if) Apple is offering the 24 bit lossless for download, then it'll be dramatically better than people have from ripping their CDs.
Hm. I'm responsible for operations for 2300+ Unix servers, it's possible that I do in fact know the difference. I'm not really interested in comparing resumes here, but, sometimes people make comments that they _are_ qualified to make, after all.
Microsoft's error messages for "This vendor hasn't paid the extortion fee to get this app certified for a microsoft icon" pretty well predicts how they would implement this whole thing. An alarming error message saying "Whoa, dude, if you install this, it may just Shut. Down. EVERYTHING." or whatever. They're extorting payola from potential business partners, and intentionally spreading FUD against those who won't play that game with them. I don't expect this concept, pure as the driven snow as presented but we all know Ballmer and freinds, to be executed any more honorably.
I'm sure he does. Right now, my Mac is asking to install "security update 2010.06". How many security updates has 'doze had so far this year? Unix/Linux, vs. Windows, have an entirely different security model. You know that, right?
The part that really bothers me is when otherwise intelligent friends are convinced by some retail-droid that the reason their 2 year old Windows box is slow, is because it's old. Um, no, it's because you've installed every malware toolbar, weatherbug, animated email notifying dancing teddy bear, and Crom knows whatever else.
When I suggest to them that perhaps they buy me a bottle of Scotch, or case of (good) beer, and I'll sort it out for them if they leave me alone while I do it, suddenly _I'm_ the bad guy.
So I shake my head sadly, watch them piss away another grand or so on hardware that will render their FarmVille farms 23.8% faster, and, well, yeah, I can't even find a way to take pleasure in it. A simple "let me install a REAL antivirus and adblocker...or let's do this for real and let me install this leenucks thing that you've never heard of, it'll be fine".
The few people who have gone with that, haven't asked me to put VirusOS back on. The rest, keep buying new hardware when they get re-infected badly enough. Wow. I should figure out a way to get those people to pay too much for computerspeedup.com or something.
I have a very talented team of guys working for me. At this time, I pull a call rotation just like they do. Our employer pays us about 100 bucks a week when we're on call, to be available. It really mostly means just weekends, as we have 24x5 coverage.
I've worked a lot of jobs where on-call wasn't paid, and, every time, being paged was mightily annoying. At least now it pays a bit. Being able to tell a prospective hire who I want to come work for me that on-call actually pays 100 bux a week, has helped me to land at least 2 of the last 4 people I've hired. It's not a big expense for the employer, and your talent that you want to hire will see you as better than the other potential employers if you pay for on-call.
The market for Unix admins especially, is getting much better in the last 6 months (for job seekers). If you don't offer your potential hires some sort of differentiating factor, you risk losing them to those of us who understand that talent warrants respect, which is best shown to techies in the form of payment.
Translation for managers: Trust your techie team leads; pay your techies for the extra work they do. If you respect them, they'll work harder for you. If you pull the "your job is to be here 9 to 5, on-call hours don't change that" crap, then I will be happy to hire them away from you as someone who DOES respect the techies.
If you don't want it and won't use it, sell it on eBay and move on. This isn't a complicated thing. For centuries, people have won random shiat they don't care about in lotteries. Sell the useful shiat, profit, live happy, and let whatever minor player who buys (thing you won) manage it.
Sure, they might do better than you might have. Yet, say, 20 Million now, vs. 40 million if you guess right, well, I'm with the $20M right now crowd of thinking.
You should see our datacenter. Holy crap, how could anyone do better?
I can't say that this is surprising at all. Most Windows people who bash Mac, do so out of ignorance. Most Mac people who bash Windows, do so out of direct personal experience with both.
If I was surveyed, sure, I have a PC in the house. 3 or 4, probably. Haven't been on in years, but, by Crom, if I ever need a PII-450 running Windows 98, well, it probably still works. Also, as pointed out, any Intel Mac can run Windows, or Windows apps with Fusion or virtualbox or whatever, so the lines get fuzzy. I haven't used a Windows instance of my own (work laptop doesn't count, I think?) since the Windows 98 I bought back in the day.
I love having a Unix box at home, that I don't have to fix. Got enough of 'em at work that I _do_ have to fix.
PEX tubing is used for this application, at least in the US. Copper may be a better conductor, but, it's a LOT more expensive. If you can have double the length, still get the heat density you need, at less cost of copper spaced further apart, why not use it? The fact that it IS what is used, and the whole corrosion problem with copper and concrete, are probably why it's done the way it is.
Not all plastics have the same thermal insulative properties.
You know, I can't think of a single subscription service I have that _doesn't_ auto-renew. In fact, I would be quite annoyed if I had to explicitly tell them "Yes, please, I want the Internet / satellite TV / newspaper tomorrow as well".
Is there anyone surprised that if you sign up for a subscription, that it keeps going?
I find the real advantage of "The Scotty Factor" is that if you know a problem will take 2 hours, you have 2*S hours to deal with the unforeseen clusterfsck issues that, somehow, are all tangled in there.
Absolutely. You can even mention you're giving your answer with "Scotty time" built in. Even our CTO is used to the term now, and knows that 2 hours really might mean 45 minutes, but, it might mean 2 hours.
Right. "I can help you, and I'm going to help you by pointing you to the process. Escalating to the L3 team lead to get a ticket done, that isn't even to the L2 team yet, isn't the right way to do this. Let me send you the link to the ticketing system (again), so you can get this going." Even if I'm gonna fix it myself, they need a ticket. We've got 2000 Unix servers and who knows how many users; every one of them wants their job in front of everyone else's. If you let them, they'll do it again and tell their friends.
Gotta be firm; there's a process for a reason. Worst case you can always pull out the "We need to keep our ticket count accurate to justify our jobs" which might not be true, but they can relate to that. Either way, your request isn't more important than the other 30 people in my queue, so, get in line, and it starts here (link).
He joined linkedin.com during the election, too, and made a forum post about "How can I help you (to help me get elected" or whatever. Bunch of responses from people, no ack from him that I ever saw.
I responded to his forum post to ask if he was really there to participate and have any kind of dialog, or if he was just there to make it look like he was tech-savvy and connected, and all I got back was an invitation to connect.
film - you mean like 35mm? There are filters in most semi-advanced photo programs that will emulate this.
Hrrrm. I've seen some fake "let's add film-ish image artifacts to this obviously digital image" and (the ones I noticed anyway...) all looked obvious and crappy. I can't help but think that a geek who is going to be the sort of person who notices this sort of thing, is going to notice and be annoyed by it if it's done poorly. I'd be interested in seeing examples of it having been done well, though...
What the fuck? Your Unix is so inadequate you have to run another Unix under it? I can understand running Windows under Linux or OSX, but running Linux on OSX is just bizarre. Why not just run the Unix that you need to get shit done on the bare metal, and throw away the candy-coated one? Alternatively, why does OSX suck so bad that you need Linux concurrently, and why are you still willing to run it?
You know, drinkypoo, your points might be better received by your audience if you weren't such an arrogant prick about your delivery. Just saying. Unless that's what you're going for, in which case, well done.
Calling MacOSX a 'commercial unix' just doesn't taste right coming out of the mouth. It's like calling Microsoft Windows a 'Server Operating System' or an 'Enterprise Solution'.
I'm guessing you've never actually opened up a shell on the Mac. It's right there in "Applications" or maybe "Utilities". MacOSX is just FreeBSD with a kickass GUI and nice apps. Doesn't get more Unix'y than that.
Yeah, there are people who use them that way, but that way madness lies.
'Enterprise Solution' tastes pretty damn foul all by itself.
Any decent Unix admin will be at home on MacOSX. It's just another Unix.
Hm, ipodbatteries.com and a bunch of other sites would like to have a word with you. I'm really not seeing how it's a problem - my first gen iPhone is going on, what, 2 years old now? Battery life is still several days, hasn't decreased noticably. If it does, it's easy to get swapped out, either go third party or send it to Apple - they'll even send me a loaner to put my SIM card in, so it's completely painless. I don't think it's so much about control or whatever, as about making a cleaner design. For me, by the time the battery gets soft, it'll probably be about time to upgrade phones anyway, because something newer will come out that has enough feature change from what I have, that I'll want it.
Same with the "non-replacable" (if you don't have a screwdriver, that is) batteries in the new laptops - are you using the laptop you bought 5 years ago? I'm not... And, I don't see getting out a screwdriver to change a battery once every few years to be a showstopper.
Can we please just get the US out of the UN?
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Seriously, this isn't a troll, even if you disagree with me. But when is the last time the UN did a thing for the US? We get resolutions of "Give money to undeveloped countries" and "Sure, go to war, but we're not gonna do shiat"...when is the last time they actually did something positive for the US?
An organization that has devolved into "the rich countries should give aid to the poor countries", has stopped being useful to anyone but the leeches. Seriously, can anyone tell me what the UN has done for the US lately, and is there a real reputation hit we'd take from leaving it (as opposed to what we do now, which is to largely ignore it)?
Well... american technology history rewriting, according to the president of the USA america even invented the automobile. I am glad Daimler and Benz are dead already and have been for a long time:-)
I've _never_ heard it claimed that the USA invented the automobile. But you say it came from a President - curious what you mean. It _is_ accurate to say that Ford's assembly line was the invention of the mass-production concept.
A more sensible approach might involve writing a well spoken, coherent, concise email. No reason to come across as a raving nutter - if someone is considering the "angry rant" approach, I'd suggest that perhaps what they are doing, is the opposite of help.
Was it Netwurx? Are they as farked up internally as they are as seen by a tech-savvy customer point of view? I can't wait for 3G in my area so I can dump them. The killer is how they have techs doing work in the evening (like updating my paddle, and shutting off my service because billing is hard, but terminating accounts for nonpayment is not), but those techs don't answer the support number. So my stuff breaks, and I can't even leave a message, I just get the "Call back when we're not closed" message on the phone. It's like they took a customer-service class but they took the "Don't do this" page and thought it was advice on how to set up their support structure. The techs were good if I could actually get to one, though, so there's something.
My WISP (in south-eastern Wisconsin) is absolutely horrible. They've improved over the last 6 months to lousy, to be fair, but there are problems - some fixable, some not.
They're a small shop. So small that at 6:00:00 PM on weekdays, the phones go into "Hello, we're closed" mode. Even for the support number. Of course, they have second shift techs doing things, like upgrading firmware on my personally owned "paddle" (without notifying me or seeing if I was using it), which several times ended up with a dead paddle and the tech just leaving it for tomorrow. With no way of getting ahold of them (see previous re: phones off).
The billing folks have a hard time with understanding credit card expiration dates, and when I asked them for a paper bill, twice, I got nothing. Months later, at 8:30 at night, my link went dead. No phone of course, because the support folks are working but don't answer the phone. So next day, I call them up, they're all bitchy because I haven't paid my bill. "What bill! Fine, you have my credit card number on file, change 2008 to 2011 on the expiration date and resubmit. Like I told you 4 months ago." 2 days later, I got my 2 bills from them, both postmarked the day I paid by credit card over the phone. Oh, I could go on but one last thing - the on-hold music is the same song, on a loop. Remember "Goody Two-shoes" by whoever the fark that was in the early 80s? Yeah, that. Over and over and over. Complete with gratuitous splice at neither the beginning, nor end, of the song, looped.
I am looking forward to 3G coverage reaching my area. It's slower but, I bet if I call Verizon or whomever because something is broken, they'll at least answer the phone.
They're also highly ineffective. Very little fallout can be spread through conventional means. And of the fallout that does spread, you'll kill very few people. The explosion intended to disperse the materials is guaranteed to kill more people than the radioactive fallout.
True. But the point of a dirty bomb isn't to kill, but to have psychological effects. "All of our city is radioactive!!!" kind of panic. People are stupid about radioactivity, look how much they over-reacted to Three Mile Island. That kind of psychological thrash and turmoil is a very powerful weapon - a bunch of long-halflife isotopes scattered around a city would have a profound psychological effect, even if the real radiation hazard was minimal.
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If this last remastering followed in the progressively worse steps of the previous 3 or 4, I suspect that it would be hardly recognizable as the Beatles.
A quick Google shows that it's probably about the same dreck as the 2000 CDs, based on reviews from people who really know.
I wouldn't be too sure. The 24 bit lossless release from late last year is a dramatically better mastering than I've heard before. IF (and I don't know if they are, but if) Apple is offering the 24 bit lossless for download, then it'll be dramatically better than people have from ripping their CDs.
Hm. I'm responsible for operations for 2300+ Unix servers, it's possible that I do in fact know the difference. I'm not really interested in comparing resumes here, but, sometimes people make comments that they _are_ qualified to make, after all.
Microsoft's error messages for "This vendor hasn't paid the extortion fee to get this app certified for a microsoft icon" pretty well predicts how they would implement this whole thing. An alarming error message saying "Whoa, dude, if you install this, it may just Shut. Down. EVERYTHING." or whatever. They're extorting payola from potential business partners, and intentionally spreading FUD against those who won't play that game with them. I don't expect this concept, pure as the driven snow as presented but we all know Ballmer and freinds, to be executed any more honorably.
I'm sure he does. Right now, my Mac is asking to install "security update 2010.06". How many security updates has 'doze had so far this year? Unix/Linux, vs. Windows, have an entirely different security model. You know that, right?
The part that really bothers me is when otherwise intelligent friends are convinced by some retail-droid that the reason their 2 year old Windows box is slow, is because it's old. Um, no, it's because you've installed every malware toolbar, weatherbug, animated email notifying dancing teddy bear, and Crom knows whatever else. When I suggest to them that perhaps they buy me a bottle of Scotch, or case of (good) beer, and I'll sort it out for them if they leave me alone while I do it, suddenly _I'm_ the bad guy. So I shake my head sadly, watch them piss away another grand or so on hardware that will render their FarmVille farms 23.8% faster, and, well, yeah, I can't even find a way to take pleasure in it. A simple "let me install a REAL antivirus and adblocker...or let's do this for real and let me install this leenucks thing that you've never heard of, it'll be fine". The few people who have gone with that, haven't asked me to put VirusOS back on. The rest, keep buying new hardware when they get re-infected badly enough. Wow. I should figure out a way to get those people to pay too much for computerspeedup.com or something.
I have a very talented team of guys working for me. At this time, I pull a call rotation just like they do. Our employer pays us about 100 bucks a week when we're on call, to be available. It really mostly means just weekends, as we have 24x5 coverage. I've worked a lot of jobs where on-call wasn't paid, and, every time, being paged was mightily annoying. At least now it pays a bit. Being able to tell a prospective hire who I want to come work for me that on-call actually pays 100 bux a week, has helped me to land at least 2 of the last 4 people I've hired. It's not a big expense for the employer, and your talent that you want to hire will see you as better than the other potential employers if you pay for on-call. The market for Unix admins especially, is getting much better in the last 6 months (for job seekers). If you don't offer your potential hires some sort of differentiating factor, you risk losing them to those of us who understand that talent warrants respect, which is best shown to techies in the form of payment. Translation for managers: Trust your techie team leads; pay your techies for the extra work they do. If you respect them, they'll work harder for you. If you pull the "your job is to be here 9 to 5, on-call hours don't change that" crap, then I will be happy to hire them away from you as someone who DOES respect the techies.
If you don't want it and won't use it, sell it on eBay and move on. This isn't a complicated thing. For centuries, people have won random shiat they don't care about in lotteries. Sell the useful shiat, profit, live happy, and let whatever minor player who buys (thing you won) manage it. Sure, they might do better than you might have. Yet, say, 20 Million now, vs. 40 million if you guess right, well, I'm with the $20M right now crowd of thinking. You should see our datacenter. Holy crap, how could anyone do better?
I can't say that this is surprising at all. Most Windows people who bash Mac, do so out of ignorance. Most Mac people who bash Windows, do so out of direct personal experience with both. If I was surveyed, sure, I have a PC in the house. 3 or 4, probably. Haven't been on in years, but, by Crom, if I ever need a PII-450 running Windows 98, well, it probably still works. Also, as pointed out, any Intel Mac can run Windows, or Windows apps with Fusion or virtualbox or whatever, so the lines get fuzzy. I haven't used a Windows instance of my own (work laptop doesn't count, I think?) since the Windows 98 I bought back in the day. I love having a Unix box at home, that I don't have to fix. Got enough of 'em at work that I _do_ have to fix.
PEX tubing is used for this application, at least in the US. Copper may be a better conductor, but, it's a LOT more expensive. If you can have double the length, still get the heat density you need, at less cost of copper spaced further apart, why not use it? The fact that it IS what is used, and the whole corrosion problem with copper and concrete, are probably why it's done the way it is. Not all plastics have the same thermal insulative properties.
traces of cocaine, heroin, cannabis, amphetamine and methamphetamine.
Reminds me of the sing-song thing from... Sesame Street? "One of these things is not like the others, one of these things does not belong."
JM2C, YMMV, lighten up, and all that.
You mean, "two of these things"? Pot and amphetamines are harmless and, often prescribed, in some combination.
You know, I can't think of a single subscription service I have that _doesn't_ auto-renew. In fact, I would be quite annoyed if I had to explicitly tell them "Yes, please, I want the Internet / satellite TV / newspaper tomorrow as well".
Is there anyone surprised that if you sign up for a subscription, that it keeps going?
I find the real advantage of "The Scotty Factor" is that if you know a problem will take 2 hours, you have 2*S hours to deal with the unforeseen clusterfsck issues that, somehow, are all tangled in there.
Absolutely. You can even mention you're giving your answer with "Scotty time" built in. Even our CTO is used to the term now, and knows that 2 hours really might mean 45 minutes, but, it might mean 2 hours.
Right. "I can help you, and I'm going to help you by pointing you to the process. Escalating to the L3 team lead to get a ticket done, that isn't even to the L2 team yet, isn't the right way to do this. Let me send you the link to the ticketing system (again), so you can get this going." Even if I'm gonna fix it myself, they need a ticket. We've got 2000 Unix servers and who knows how many users; every one of them wants their job in front of everyone else's. If you let them, they'll do it again and tell their friends.
Gotta be firm; there's a process for a reason. Worst case you can always pull out the "We need to keep our ticket count accurate to justify our jobs" which might not be true, but they can relate to that. Either way, your request isn't more important than the other 30 people in my queue, so, get in line, and it starts here (link).
He joined linkedin.com during the election, too, and made a forum post about "How can I help you (to help me get elected" or whatever. Bunch of responses from people, no ack from him that I ever saw.
I responded to his forum post to ask if he was really there to participate and have any kind of dialog, or if he was just there to make it look like he was tech-savvy and connected, and all I got back was an invitation to connect.
Emulating old stuff:
film - you mean like 35mm? There are filters in most semi-advanced photo programs that will emulate this.
Hrrrm. I've seen some fake "let's add film-ish image artifacts to this obviously digital image" and (the ones I noticed anyway...) all looked obvious and crappy. I can't help but think that a geek who is going to be the sort of person who notices this sort of thing, is going to notice and be annoyed by it if it's done poorly. I'd be interested in seeing examples of it having been done well, though...
What the fuck? Your Unix is so inadequate you have to run another Unix under it? I can understand running Windows under Linux or OSX, but running Linux on OSX is just bizarre. Why not just run the Unix that you need to get shit done on the bare metal, and throw away the candy-coated one? Alternatively, why does OSX suck so bad that you need Linux concurrently, and why are you still willing to run it?
You know, drinkypoo, your points might be better received by your audience if you weren't such an arrogant prick about your delivery. Just saying. Unless that's what you're going for, in which case, well done.
Really? I'm posting this comment from a workstation running a commercial UNIX. I'm using a Mac.
Heh. +1 pedant.
It has lost most of the characteristics people identify as Unix though.
Like what, specifically? What characteristics of unix do you feel MacOSX doesn't have?
Calling MacOSX a 'commercial unix' just doesn't taste right coming out of the mouth. It's like calling Microsoft Windows a 'Server Operating System' or an 'Enterprise Solution'.
I'm guessing you've never actually opened up a shell on the Mac. It's right there in "Applications" or maybe "Utilities". MacOSX is just FreeBSD with a kickass GUI and nice apps. Doesn't get more Unix'y than that.
Yeah, there are people who use them that way, but that way madness lies.
'Enterprise Solution' tastes pretty damn foul all by itself.
Any decent Unix admin will be at home on MacOSX. It's just another Unix.
Hm, ipodbatteries.com and a bunch of other sites would like to have a word with you. I'm really not seeing how it's a problem - my first gen iPhone is going on, what, 2 years old now? Battery life is still several days, hasn't decreased noticably. If it does, it's easy to get swapped out, either go third party or send it to Apple - they'll even send me a loaner to put my SIM card in, so it's completely painless. I don't think it's so much about control or whatever, as about making a cleaner design. For me, by the time the battery gets soft, it'll probably be about time to upgrade phones anyway, because something newer will come out that has enough feature change from what I have, that I'll want it. Same with the "non-replacable" (if you don't have a screwdriver, that is) batteries in the new laptops - are you using the laptop you bought 5 years ago? I'm not... And, I don't see getting out a screwdriver to change a battery once every few years to be a showstopper.
Seriously, this isn't a troll, even if you disagree with me. But when is the last time the UN did a thing for the US? We get resolutions of "Give money to undeveloped countries" and "Sure, go to war, but we're not gonna do shiat"...when is the last time they actually did something positive for the US?
An organization that has devolved into "the rich countries should give aid to the poor countries", has stopped being useful to anyone but the leeches. Seriously, can anyone tell me what the UN has done for the US lately, and is there a real reputation hit we'd take from leaving it (as opposed to what we do now, which is to largely ignore it)?
Well... american technology history rewriting, according to the president of the USA america even invented the automobile. I am glad Daimler and Benz are dead already and have been for a long time :-)
I've _never_ heard it claimed that the USA invented the automobile. But you say it came from a President - curious what you mean. It _is_ accurate to say that Ford's assembly line was the invention of the mass-production concept.
A more sensible approach might involve writing a well spoken, coherent, concise email. No reason to come across as a raving nutter - if someone is considering the "angry rant" approach, I'd suggest that perhaps what they are doing, is the opposite of help.
Was it Netwurx? Are they as farked up internally as they are as seen by a tech-savvy customer point of view? I can't wait for 3G in my area so I can dump them. The killer is how they have techs doing work in the evening (like updating my paddle, and shutting off my service because billing is hard, but terminating accounts for nonpayment is not), but those techs don't answer the support number. So my stuff breaks, and I can't even leave a message, I just get the "Call back when we're not closed" message on the phone. It's like they took a customer-service class but they took the "Don't do this" page and thought it was advice on how to set up their support structure. The techs were good if I could actually get to one, though, so there's something.
My WISP (in south-eastern Wisconsin) is absolutely horrible. They've improved over the last 6 months to lousy, to be fair, but there are problems - some fixable, some not.
They're a small shop. So small that at 6:00:00 PM on weekdays, the phones go into "Hello, we're closed" mode. Even for the support number. Of course, they have second shift techs doing things, like upgrading firmware on my personally owned "paddle" (without notifying me or seeing if I was using it), which several times ended up with a dead paddle and the tech just leaving it for tomorrow. With no way of getting ahold of them (see previous re: phones off).
The billing folks have a hard time with understanding credit card expiration dates, and when I asked them for a paper bill, twice, I got nothing. Months later, at 8:30 at night, my link went dead. No phone of course, because the support folks are working but don't answer the phone. So next day, I call them up, they're all bitchy because I haven't paid my bill. "What bill! Fine, you have my credit card number on file, change 2008 to 2011 on the expiration date and resubmit. Like I told you 4 months ago." 2 days later, I got my 2 bills from them, both postmarked the day I paid by credit card over the phone. Oh, I could go on but one last thing - the on-hold music is the same song, on a loop. Remember "Goody Two-shoes" by whoever the fark that was in the early 80s? Yeah, that. Over and over and over. Complete with gratuitous splice at neither the beginning, nor end, of the song, looped.
I am looking forward to 3G coverage reaching my area. It's slower but, I bet if I call Verizon or whomever because something is broken, they'll at least answer the phone.
They're also highly ineffective. Very little fallout can be spread through conventional means. And of the fallout that does spread, you'll kill very few people. The explosion intended to disperse the materials is guaranteed to kill more people than the radioactive fallout.
True. But the point of a dirty bomb isn't to kill, but to have psychological effects. "All of our city is radioactive!!!" kind of panic. People are stupid about radioactivity, look how much they over-reacted to Three Mile Island. That kind of psychological thrash and turmoil is a very powerful weapon - a bunch of long-halflife isotopes scattered around a city would have a profound psychological effect, even if the real radiation hazard was minimal.