For instance.. who commits arson as proof of concept? How many less people have died due to a computer virus?
And XML doesn't solve anything. You need non-interpretive documents. Outlook interprets HTML and JS.. and prolly other components. THAT is why your mail is now fooked. It's cause someone has some sorta script running in memory everytime they open outlook 'cause they clicked on an attachment which in turn, interpreted by the OS or some sorta exploit in the way that outlook works is 'causing it to send messages willy-nilly.
So you are telling me there's no way to fool the people in charge of the semi-public computer of your identity?
You also believe that such a generalization of fame is true? Some people do stuff to just do stuff. Some people do it for fame. Some do it as an act of civil disobedience. Some do it as proof of concept.
Only way you can dissuade everyone from doing it is by taking away the ability. No OS, no virus writters.
Even if they do that, they don't scare the people who just a little sneakier than most. And scare tactics doesn't always work. Look at Kazaa. 400+ examples made, and it's still strong.
Oddly enough, disobedience is not an easy thing to squash.:)
It's not that hard to deploy a virus and not get caught. There are so many open access points and people who forget to log off of an email account after leaving.. how would you track it?
can we get a measurement of distinct ip's running servers vs hostnames running servers?
Domain name registrars just fuck it up for everyone when they switch back and forth with their hosting solutions. It's not as if there was choice on by the user to what hosting service they were using for their parked page. It is an important when choosing a final hosting service, apache or IIS...
Copy protection rarely stops piracy, and usually screws with the customer.
Duh. It's mostly to raise the bar for a sufficient amount of time so that money can be made. there are a lot of channels of piracy and copyright violations that aren't targeted because they are more expensive to go after and have smaller effects that going after the big fish.
We put up with commercials in TV because a TV is relatively cheap. But when most users pay 2000+$ for their computer, and then have programs installed without their knowledge with other programs, then of course the terms will be created.
Your analogy DOESN'T WORK. TV != Ineternet or a computer. The mediums are different. The intentions are different. Hell, their initial uses were different too.. academia vs entertainment.
Murder and copyright enfringement are NOT THE SAME THING! Don't compare them nor the sitatuions involving them to each other.
Otherwise, telling someone how to jay walk is just as bad as telling someone where a hitman is. Or telling someone how to copy something out of a book is as bad as telling someone how to load a gun. Yeah, there's this entire string of things that are good or bad or neither depending on the situation, but that's it, they depend on the situation.
Most of the time, it will require discretion NOT to compare it to hitmen and such.
This hasn't gone to trial, and you have thousands and THOUSANDS of developers who agree, "You can't do this or that unless you follow the following."
Pretty big words for a company who has no berring over how the law is interpreted. Take it to court first.. we'll get the official word and the plausable reasons first.
Sometimes, brute force solves things on a small scale anyhow. It IS a valid solution.
Especially when problems are "hard", the time it takes to brute force is faster than it it is to find a better solution than you had before. Besides, for some problems, there still is a problem of proving that your solution is "best".
In programming languages, quick sort is still a very valid solution not because it has n log n best time, n^2 worst, but because they can pre-manipulate some of the stuff so the worst case is a lot better than n^2. Read up on choosing a pivot value and medians. There's a way of doing it in n time, where n is quite small and insignificant... especially while merge sort's merging code can invoke further overhead.
No, I'm not kidding. Some people actually write good code. Don't get all primadona on us now. Companies like EMC and linksys don't write bad drivers.
Uh.. never siad the letters NCR were weird. Couldn't remember the first two digits. But tnx for the sarcastic explanation.
Btw, the NCR53C875 was first written for linux. I had the card before it became symbios and had to chat w/ the guy about getting the code compiled in, since linux used to like to ask "Do you want NCR538XX support?" Which you ahd to say no to since the next question would be, "Do you have an ncr53c875 card." which would be ignored if you said yes to the first question.
Wait. How many native linux drivers are out there? How many *bsd ones? Ones that are written by the companies, not by some random guy who figures out how to get the NCR53c875 card to work.
Yes.. that is an actual card.. may have gotten the first two digits wrong:)
Well, my example specifically was the fact that there are always layers. Not that it has to read byte code. Heck, libc is a layer for C programs and unix programs.:)
Why not? Some linux programs run faster under Freebsd linux emulation, but on the whole, they run about the same speed. Same with WINE programs. Yes, native is all nice and neat, but with emulation in place to emulate proven drivers, a proven emulator will give many more drivers and many more linux driver writers w/o them knowing it.
You do realize, that some memory resident program that interprets drivers on behalf of the user.. is like a JVM (or Parrot) which interprets specially formated byte code programs?
Parrot and the JVM are of course, more current. Your OS runs your programs on your behalf too.
All this thing is, is a consistent layer that interprets something. Hardly a cludge.
Yes, rewriting one of your subsystems, finder, to be multithreaded and have a new interface isn't hard work. Integrating X11 and making sure it works isn't hard work either. Doing all that while most apps still work?
You can find the "HTML Formated" choice Here. :)
Writing viruses and arson aren't the same thing.
For instance.. who commits arson as proof of concept?
How many less people have died due to a computer virus?
And XML doesn't solve anything. You need non-interpretive documents. Outlook interprets HTML and JS.. and prolly other components. THAT is why your mail is now fooked. It's cause someone has some sorta script running in memory everytime they open outlook 'cause they clicked on an attachment which in turn, interpreted by the OS or some sorta exploit in the way that outlook works is 'causing it to send messages willy-nilly.
So you are telling me there's no way to fool the people in charge of the semi-public computer of your identity?
You also believe that such a generalization of fame is true? Some people do stuff to just do stuff. Some people do it for fame. Some do it as an act of civil disobedience. Some do it as proof of concept.
Only way you can dissuade everyone from doing it is by taking away the ability. No OS, no virus writters.
Best kept secret is one not told. Duh. :)
Even if they do that, they don't scare the people who just a little sneakier than most. And scare tactics doesn't always work. Look at Kazaa. 400+ examples made, and it's still strong.
:)
Oddly enough, disobedience is not an easy thing to squash.
It's not that hard to deploy a virus and not get caught. There are so many open access points and people who forget to log off of an email account after leaving.. how would you track it?
Does this DRM info == slashdot's apr 1's evil bit?
I pray this is a hoax and these people didn't take that idea seriously.
-s
can we get a measurement of distinct ip's running servers vs hostnames running servers?
Domain name registrars just fuck it up for everyone when they switch back and forth with their hosting solutions. It's not as if there was choice on by the user to what hosting service they were using for their parked page. It is an important when choosing a final hosting service, apache or IIS...
Sounds like windows roaming profiles.
Same way you hold a photo. By the edges.
Duh. It's mostly to raise the bar for a sufficient amount of time so that money can be made. there are a lot of channels of piracy and copyright violations that aren't targeted because they are more expensive to go after and have smaller effects that going after the big fish.
You sound like you are talking out of your bot-tocks. *groan*
Your analogy DOESN'T WORK. TV != Ineternet or a computer. The mediums are different. The intentions are different. Hell, their initial uses were different too.. academia vs entertainment.
Murder and copyright enfringement are NOT THE SAME THING! Don't compare them nor the sitatuions involving them to each other.
Otherwise, telling someone how to jay walk is just as bad as telling someone where a hitman is. Or telling someone how to copy something out of a book is as bad as telling someone how to load a gun. Yeah, there's this entire string of things that are good or bad or neither depending on the situation, but that's it, they depend on the situation.
Most of the time, it will require discretion NOT to compare it to hitmen and such.
This hasn't gone to trial, and you have thousands and THOUSANDS of developers who agree, "You can't do this or that unless you follow the following."
Pretty big words for a company who has no berring over how the law is interpreted. Take it to court first.. we'll get the official word and the plausable reasons first.
Sometimes, brute force solves things on a small scale anyhow. It IS a valid solution.
Especially when problems are "hard", the time it takes to brute force is faster than it it is to find a better solution than you had before. Besides, for some problems, there still is a problem of proving that your solution is "best".
In programming languages, quick sort is still a very valid solution not because it has n log n best time, n^2 worst, but because they can pre-manipulate some of the stuff so the worst case is a lot better than n^2. Read up on choosing a pivot value and medians. There's a way of doing it in n time, where n is quite small and insignificant... especially while merge sort's merging code can invoke further overhead.
Strangely enough, google asking for money for an IPO reminds me of the south park episode, with the sucubus and chef's dad.
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He says, "And you know what that Loch Ness Monster said? He said, 'I need about tree-fiddy.'"
Maybe that's how much I'd give 'em.. but then they may want another tree fiddy.
How'd you accomplish that? I have the same text for $100 even.
No, I'm not kidding. Some people actually write good code. Don't get all primadona on us now. Companies like EMC and linksys don't write bad drivers.
:)
Uh.. never siad the letters NCR were weird. Couldn't remember the first two digits. But tnx for the sarcastic explanation.
Btw, the NCR53C875 was first written for linux. I had the card before it became symbios and had to chat w/ the guy about getting the code compiled in, since linux used to like to ask "Do you want NCR538XX support?" Which you ahd to say no to since the next question would be, "Do you have an ncr53c875 card." which would be ignored if you said yes to the first question.
It was written for linux first.
Wait. How many native linux drivers are out there? How many *bsd ones? Ones that are written by the companies, not by some random guy who figures out how to get the NCR53c875 card to work.
:)
Yes.. that is an actual card.. may have gotten the first two digits wrong
Well, my example specifically was the fact that there are always layers. Not that it has to read byte code. Heck, libc is a layer for C programs and unix programs. :)
Why not? Some linux programs run faster under Freebsd linux emulation, but on the whole, they run about the same speed. Same with WINE programs. Yes, native is all nice and neat, but with emulation in place to emulate proven drivers, a proven emulator will give many more drivers and many more linux driver writers w/o them knowing it.
You do realize, that some memory resident program that interprets drivers on behalf of the user.. is like a JVM (or Parrot) which interprets specially formated byte code programs?
Parrot and the JVM are of course, more current. Your OS runs your programs on your behalf too.
All this thing is, is a consistent layer that interprets something. Hardly a cludge.
Yes, rewriting one of your subsystems, finder, to be multithreaded and have a new interface isn't hard work. Integrating X11 and making sure it works isn't hard work either. Doing all that while most apps still work?
Get over yourself.
Yes, SMTP and DNS are both ever so obsolete. wtf?