You're on fucking crack. Regardless of what OS I am using I do not use anything but the most simplistic setup as it is CPU intensive, graphics intensive, and unnecessary.
I have posted about this MANY times before including references to Enlightenment setups that only have a single menu on left-mouse click.
I don't see how your references to "multiple desktops" is all that Insightful. They are useful, they have been available (as you have said) through the extra packages, but I fail to see how they have been called useless because they aren't apart of Windows.
It looks like a "pretty" big waste of time and screen real estate. The last screenshot labelled "organize" is pretty damn ugly. It reminds me of CDE turned on its side.
I prefer to keep my desktop a clean slate. The taskbar and a single row of icons. The second I need more than one row I have to clean up. This would make my desktop a disaster area.
While the idea is a cool one I'd prefer to keep it clean and keep it fast. I have a feeling that this project will do neither.
I don't know about you but I haven't used too much WinCE software that was coded by software companies. Most of the stuff I used was coded by people doing so in their spare time.
Either you haven't used CE that much or we use different software.
I don't see your point. In order to develop for CE you have to use their development tools and libraries. When you develop for a Linux based PDA you aren't *TIED* to any specific toolkit.
Sure, you could use QT and pay if they charge (I don't know) but you could also roll your own and end up distributing it for free if you wished.
Just because its source is available doesn't mean anything. To get the benefits of "open source", you have to develop using the methodology, not just slap an "open source" license on it and expect it to magickly get better.
Ahh, but see, that's coming from someone immersed in the world of OSS. When you are immersed in a Windows world and used to paying high development and licensing fees this would seem like a Godsend.
People see the benefits of Linux as it being free. They don't always see the "more eyes/better code" side.
Furthermore, the software development process itself is accomplished with an inexpensive, $995 integrated toolkit which can even be downloaded on a 120-day free-trial basis as part of the Windows CE 5.0 "evaluation edition" before purchasing a license.
While I have never used Linux on a PDA (and probably won't) I can't imagine having the claim that $995 for development fees (after the trial period) is "inexpensive" especially when this is an obvious attempt to compete with Linux in the PDA market.
Americans do know about the war, they read about it, they talk about it, but they just don't give a shit. I believe that I said something along the lines of them wanting to escape their harsh realities and bury themselves in their TV created ones.
The second half with the crying mothers (Iraqi and American) - the shrieking soldiers who are maimed in battle, and linking the corruption of Bush and his friends to the concerns of everyday people is going to hurt Bush because anyone I think can empathize with some crying mother who lost her son. That is going to hurt Bush A LOT and it's on the emotional level where Moore connects with the working class that his films shine the brightest in my opinion. None of that did anything to you?
Of course I cringed at the sight of charred bodies hanging from their limbs with people rallying below but I understand the wider view...
Our troops are dying and mothers here are crying for their babies who are KNOWINGLY fighting a war for their own country because THEY WANTED TO. Yes, I understand that Moore *tried* to say that in small towns like Flint, MI the unemployment rate is so high that people can't get jobs so the military recruiters are bloodsucking their babies away.
How about we take a look at the crying mothers of *REAL* babies who were decimated or cut open by "our babies" firing weapons at them for basically no reason (which was explained by Moore at the beginning of the movie)?
That took all the credibility away from the second half right there.
Michael Moore is a pop-culture 'documentarist'/'entertainer'. If you want to wake up the masses, don't give them countless reams of reports and articles to attempt to wade through. Save that for the courts.
Remember, America is not the most literate nation on Earth.
Being literate has absolutely NOTHING to do w/this. Americans just don't care. They don't want to hear about war, they don't want to hear about politics, and they especially don't want to learn anything about any of it.
Politics, war, death, etc, are all things that happen in real life. They would rather watch "reality TV" and pretend that the politics and war don't apply even when they do.
Contrary to many people's personal belief's this movie will not do anything to help the political situation now or ever. 99% of people have unchangeable preconceived notions going into this movie and watching it certainly won't change most of that (my only preconceived notion was that it was going to be a great film and it turned out that I didn't think it was).
Our media coverage of the war has been very one sided and this movie points it out very clearly.
Well of course it was (and as you said he showed specific quotes of reporters saying, "well yes of course I am biased.") because if they weren't biased they would be boycotted, they would have conservative groups trying to get them expelled from TV, they would be labelled un-American by the president and his staff, and they would probably lose a portion of their viewership to channels that were pro-war.
As far as Michael Moore being this or that... I don't think of that at all. I think of the MOVIE being this or that. Bowling for Columbine was a much better movie than this one. I found this one to be "ok". It certainly didn't show me anything that I didn't know already (and it shouldn't if you are an American with half a brain and you watch/read the news for yourself).
The second half of the movie was not good. It was almost as if he ran out of stuff to rant about and decided to half rally behind the troops overseas. It was poorly done and nearly bored me to sleep (I saw the 12:01am showing on Friday morning).
On a personal note: I don't think it deserves the media attention, the conservative's attention, and I certainly don't believe it deserved multiple standing ovations (LA, NY, Cannes, etc).
Yeah well they are still spewing garbage out and wasting bandwith (whether it is going anywhere or not).
You also run the risk of having to disinfect these people manually via the network support staff.
When you find the people that are infected, disable them, have IE automatically open to a page that tells them they are cut off and that they need to immediately contact the support staff for cleaning and reinstatement.
No, they shouldn't monitor their computers at all. Not unless they plug into the campus network. Once the student does that it is now the college's responsiblity to protect their network and other's on that network.
Don't want your computer searched? Don't connect to the network.
If I was paying a network fee and ended up w/a virus or worm because of some other careless idiot I would be pissed.
Hell, I am pissed that my webserver is constantly hit by Comcast IP ranges and Comcast does nothing about it when I *KNOW* that they have the ability to scan and disable the users (at least on ATTBI's existing network).
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Sometimes you just have to cut the competitive bid process out, and say "Here, you do it!"
It went more along the lines of "give it to us because we gave you a large severance package and you now owe us."
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I suggest that there be an open bidding war instead of a mandate coming from one of the highest offices in the US Government because of his previous ties w/that corporation. *cough* Chaney *cough*.
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A lot of high profile Linux users believe that Linux could be the savior to all areas of the world (developed countries as well as third world countries). How is this guy any different than the rest of those out there promoting and educating others about Linux?
"There is a shortage in power and water supplies, and sewage systems, so the last thing Iraq needs is spending billions of dollars on very expensive and overpriced products, especially software products," he said.
This enables the country to build its own infrastructure based on open source, on open ideas," Ashraf Hasson.
As of right now the "rebuilding" efforts of Iraq are in the hands of corporate contractors (from the liberating nations) who are being offered large sums of money to "help" over there. Will Linux be able to compete with the puppet-government mandated contractors who are likely more interested in filling their own coffers rather than those of the Iraqi people?
Though it doesn't happen overnight. I still know of businesses that don't use computers. Eventually those who are set in their ways die (I'm simply stating fact, not trying to offend anyone) and are replaced by people that don't remember the things that are now outdated.
Yeah and your point is what? Eventually people will stop entering in the phone numbers by hand manually and will all use address books. The people that didn't adopt used them forever and died thus ending their ability to use them.
No, I doubt that will work. Especially when you use that particular example... Working in a field where I deal w/common names on an everyday basis I realize just how awful that would be.
And you are going to have to put them in anyway. What the device you are using to dial is just going to magically know the DNS name for the person you want to dial? Sure, remembering whore@teenhotties.com is probably easier to remember than 1-900-HOT-TEENS but still don't see how it's just going to magically appear in your dialing device.
I still enter URL's into the address bar. Doesn't mean that I have to or that it is the easiest. I am just set in my ways and don't use bookmarks for everything.
No matter what happens there will always be the "first to adopt" and those that hang on to their set ways forever.
Addressbooks, bookmarks, speed-dial whatever you want to call it are already replacing the standard way of dialing phones. It's nothing "visionary" by putting numbers to names like DNS (something like adding lines to your hosts file rather than a world-wide DNS system).
Now, as head scientist and chairman of Nominum, a DNS management company, he has been reflecting on how the net has grown up.
The father of DNS and a scientist working at a DNS management company believes that everything will be controlled by a DNS-like system, absolutely unbelievable!
We have these things called bookmarks... People rarely remember web-addresses as it is. I know that entirely too many people believe their entire "Internet" is their homepage (while working for ATTBI during the @Home changeover I *personally* received several calls from concerned people that their Internet was gone and replaced by this "ATT BY" thing as their homepage had changed from home.excite.com to www.attbi.com). I would venture to say that most people get their information from a handful of sites and don't bother to remember much other than google.com or yahoo.com. I know that I get most of my information from a handful of remembered sites and I consider myself a bit more Internet savvy than the average user.
"It is quite possible that phone numbers will have disappeared and people will just use menus off their phone. I don't think there is particular value in having them."
He theorizes something that already exists! So instead of bookmarks for phone numbers we have these things called address books. You look up someone's name in there and you click on it. It dials. Absolutely brilliant. Thanks for showing us the way!
He's no longer a visionary. He's just pretending to be one. What he did for us changed the Internet from the start. This article on the other hand means nothing as it already exists in popular form.
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I just don't see why this needed to be decided on. Telcos aren't responsible for people who discuss illegal activities. How would an ISP?
ISPs are just carriers and they shouldn't have even had to waste the Court's time to show that.
You're on fucking crack. Regardless of what OS I am using I do not use anything but the most simplistic setup as it is CPU intensive, graphics intensive, and unnecessary.
I have posted about this MANY times before including references to Enlightenment setups that only have a single menu on left-mouse click.
I don't see how your references to "multiple desktops" is all that Insightful. They are useful, they have been available (as you have said) through the extra packages, but I fail to see how they have been called useless because they aren't apart of Windows.
It looks like a "pretty" big waste of time and screen real estate. The last screenshot labelled "organize" is pretty damn ugly. It reminds me of CDE turned on its side.
I prefer to keep my desktop a clean slate. The taskbar and a single row of icons. The second I need more than one row I have to clean up. This would make my desktop a disaster area.
While the idea is a cool one I'd prefer to keep it clean and keep it fast. I have a feeling that this project will do neither.
I don't know about you but I haven't used too much WinCE software that was coded by software companies. Most of the stuff I used was coded by people doing so in their spare time.
Either you haven't used CE that much or we use different software.
I don't see your point. In order to develop for CE you have to use their development tools and libraries. When you develop for a Linux based PDA you aren't *TIED* to any specific toolkit.
Sure, you could use QT and pay if they charge (I don't know) but you could also roll your own and end up distributing it for free if you wished.
Just because its source is available doesn't mean anything. To get the benefits of "open source", you have to develop using the methodology, not just slap an "open source" license on it and expect it to magickly get better.
Ahh, but see, that's coming from someone immersed in the world of OSS. When you are immersed in a Windows world and used to paying high development and licensing fees this would seem like a Godsend.
People see the benefits of Linux as it being free. They don't always see the "more eyes/better code" side.
Greed is a much more powerful tool.
Furthermore, the software development process itself is accomplished with an inexpensive, $995 integrated toolkit which can even be downloaded on a 120-day free-trial basis as part of the Windows CE 5.0 "evaluation edition" before purchasing a license.
While I have never used Linux on a PDA (and probably won't) I can't imagine having the claim that $995 for development fees (after the trial period) is "inexpensive" especially when this is an obvious attempt to compete with Linux in the PDA market.
Well said, but wrong...
Americans do know about the war, they read about it, they talk about it, but they just don't give a shit. I believe that I said something along the lines of them wanting to escape their harsh realities and bury themselves in their TV created ones.
That's ignorance not illiteracy.
The second half with the crying mothers (Iraqi and American) - the shrieking soldiers who are maimed in battle, and linking the corruption of Bush and his friends to the concerns of everyday people is going to hurt Bush because anyone I think can empathize with some crying mother who lost her son. That is going to hurt Bush A LOT and it's on the emotional level where Moore connects with the working class that his films shine the brightest in my opinion. None of that did anything to you?
Of course I cringed at the sight of charred bodies hanging from their limbs with people rallying below but I understand the wider view...
Our troops are dying and mothers here are crying for their babies who are KNOWINGLY fighting a war for their own country because THEY WANTED TO. Yes, I understand that Moore *tried* to say that in small towns like Flint, MI the unemployment rate is so high that people can't get jobs so the military recruiters are bloodsucking their babies away.
How about we take a look at the crying mothers of *REAL* babies who were decimated or cut open by "our babies" firing weapons at them for basically no reason (which was explained by Moore at the beginning of the movie)?
That took all the credibility away from the second half right there.
Michael Moore is a pop-culture 'documentarist'/'entertainer'. If you want to wake up the masses, don't give them countless reams of reports and articles to attempt to wade through. Save that for the courts.
Remember, America is not the most literate nation on Earth.
Being literate has absolutely NOTHING to do w/this. Americans just don't care. They don't want to hear about war, they don't want to hear about politics, and they especially don't want to learn anything about any of it.
Politics, war, death, etc, are all things that happen in real life. They would rather watch "reality TV" and pretend that the politics and war don't apply even when they do.
Contrary to many people's personal belief's this movie will not do anything to help the political situation now or ever. 99% of people have unchangeable preconceived notions going into this movie and watching it certainly won't change most of that (my only preconceived notion was that it was going to be a great film and it turned out that I didn't think it was).
Our media coverage of the war has been very one sided and this movie points it out very clearly.
Well of course it was (and as you said he showed specific quotes of reporters saying, "well yes of course I am biased.") because if they weren't biased they would be boycotted, they would have conservative groups trying to get them expelled from TV, they would be labelled un-American by the president and his staff, and they would probably lose a portion of their viewership to channels that were pro-war.
As far as Michael Moore being this or that... I don't think of that at all. I think of the MOVIE being this or that. Bowling for Columbine was a much better movie than this one. I found this one to be "ok". It certainly didn't show me anything that I didn't know already (and it shouldn't if you are an American with half a brain and you watch/read the news for yourself).
The second half of the movie was not good. It was almost as if he ran out of stuff to rant about and decided to half rally behind the troops overseas. It was poorly done and nearly bored me to sleep (I saw the 12:01am showing on Friday morning).
On a personal note: I don't think it deserves the media attention, the conservative's attention, and I certainly don't believe it deserved multiple standing ovations (LA, NY, Cannes, etc).
Yeah well they are still spewing garbage out and wasting bandwith (whether it is going anywhere or not).
You also run the risk of having to disinfect these people manually via the network support staff.
When you find the people that are infected, disable them, have IE automatically open to a page that tells them they are cut off and that they need to immediately contact the support staff for cleaning and reinstatement.
I was talking more along the lines of scanning for issues and when found the student's connection is disabled.
Depending on the severity of the issue it could possiblity be permanent.
No, they shouldn't monitor their computers at all. Not unless they plug into the campus network. Once the student does that it is now the college's responsiblity to protect their network and other's on that network.
Don't want your computer searched? Don't connect to the network.
If I was paying a network fee and ended up w/a virus or worm because of some other careless idiot I would be pissed.
Hell, I am pissed that my webserver is constantly hit by Comcast IP ranges and Comcast does nothing about it when I *KNOW* that they have the ability to scan and disable the users (at least on ATTBI's existing network).
Maybe we should outlaw fertilizer and diesel fuel
Unforunately you need fertilizer to grow plants to feed the animals that roam the ranches paid for by oil profits.
I can't either.
Sometimes you just have to cut the competitive bid process out, and say "Here, you do it!"
It went more along the lines of "give it to us because we gave you a large severance package and you now owe us."
I suggest that there be an open bidding war instead of a mandate coming from one of the highest offices in the US Government because of his previous ties w/that corporation. *cough* Chaney *cough*.
A lot of high profile Linux users believe that Linux could be the savior to all areas of the world (developed countries as well as third world countries). How is this guy any different than the rest of those out there promoting and educating others about Linux?
"There is a shortage in power and water supplies, and sewage systems, so the last thing Iraq needs is spending billions of dollars on very expensive and overpriced products, especially software products," he said.
This enables the country to build its own infrastructure based on open source, on open ideas," Ashraf Hasson.
As of right now the "rebuilding" efforts of Iraq are in the hands of corporate contractors (from the liberating nations) who are being offered large sums of money to "help" over there. Will Linux be able to compete with the puppet-government mandated contractors who are likely more interested in filling their own coffers rather than those of the Iraqi people?
Though it doesn't happen overnight. I still know of businesses that don't use computers. Eventually those who are set in their ways die (I'm simply stating fact, not trying to offend anyone) and are replaced by people that don't remember the things that are now outdated.
Yeah and your point is what? Eventually people will stop entering in the phone numbers by hand manually and will all use address books. The people that didn't adopt used them forever and died thus ending their ability to use them.
No, I doubt that will work. Especially when you use that particular example... Working in a field where I deal w/common names on an everyday basis I realize just how awful that would be.
Sorry but that's not going to work, ever.
And you are going to have to put them in anyway. What the device you are using to dial is just going to magically know the DNS name for the person you want to dial? Sure, remembering whore@teenhotties.com is probably easier to remember than 1-900-HOT-TEENS but still don't see how it's just going to magically appear in your dialing device.
I still enter URL's into the address bar. Doesn't mean that I have to or that it is the easiest. I am just set in my ways and don't use bookmarks for everything.
No matter what happens there will always be the "first to adopt" and those that hang on to their set ways forever.
Addressbooks, bookmarks, speed-dial whatever you want to call it are already replacing the standard way of dialing phones. It's nothing "visionary" by putting numbers to names like DNS (something like adding lines to your hosts file rather than a world-wide DNS system).
Now, as head scientist and chairman of Nominum, a DNS management company, he has been reflecting on how the net has grown up.
The father of DNS and a scientist working at a DNS management company believes that everything will be controlled by a DNS-like system, absolutely unbelievable!
We have these things called bookmarks... People rarely remember web-addresses as it is. I know that entirely too many people believe their entire "Internet" is their homepage (while working for ATTBI during the @Home changeover I *personally* received several calls from concerned people that their Internet was gone and replaced by this "ATT BY" thing as their homepage had changed from home.excite.com to www.attbi.com). I would venture to say that most people get their information from a handful of sites and don't bother to remember much other than google.com or yahoo.com. I know that I get most of my information from a handful of remembered sites and I consider myself a bit more Internet savvy than the average user.
"It is quite possible that phone numbers will have disappeared and people will just use menus off their phone. I don't think there is particular value in having them."
He theorizes something that already exists! So instead of bookmarks for phone numbers we have these things called address books. You look up someone's name in there and you click on it. It dials. Absolutely brilliant. Thanks for showing us the way!
He's no longer a visionary. He's just pretending to be one. What he did for us changed the Internet from the start. This article on the other hand means nothing as it already exists in popular form.
yeah, it does... Something inherently good going inherently wrong: Burns Recycling.