If you agree to this ( EULA I'd assume ), then once the data leaves your computer, it then belongs to MS, right?
So, then, if a government wanted to see what you were up to, they could cause a crash ( power outage ), wait for you to upload the data, then sopena ms for the details.
Ya ya, I know, tinfoil hat and all that. However, if that tool did exist, that's what would happen. Were I a cop, that's what I'd do.
FYI: Regardless of how fun your xmas hoax was, I don't think it's appropriate to put ads (or other off-topic links) in a slashdot post. It detracts from the actual content of a discussion. Be content with the knowledge that by writing good posts, people will occassionally follow your website link.
--Your friendly neighbourhood anon coward
I was not aware there was a specific "what you can post on slashdot" policy. Please link it, so that I too may be enlightened.
I am absolutely 100% sure that no damage can be done.
This would frighten me, were I your manager. People who are this sure of anything have been, in my experience, zealots for that OS or so egotistical that I don't want them making decisions.
Crap breaks, people make mistakes. I believe this to the core of my being, and I plan on it. Sure, I lose some performance, but given I can throw more hardware at that particular problem, I don't worry about it.
Don't be a retard, the point of preventing intrusion is that if you do get hacked, no damage can be done because the server is so locked down it can't do anything other then act as an SQL server.
You and I have differing definitions of "locked down", and in any case, I wasn't specifically referring to trojans, I was simply using them for the example.
Shit happens. As network admin, it's your job to limit the damage using every available mean. By not using AV on all machines ( yes, virginia, linux boxes too ), you are being negligent in your duties.
Your SQL server is infected with a trojan. Nevermind how, it's not important. Your manager wants to know why it wasn't protected.
You are building yourself into a glass house. Mistakes happen. They are made by your or others on your staff. You should plan for those mistakes, life has a way of teaching these kind of lessons on it's own. Typically painfully.
Shit that just works? That's revolutionary in the computer industry, software in particular.
Honestly, I'm thinking the linux desktop is dead in the water ( remember folks, you heard it here first! ). We may have a decent linux desktop take over the world someday, but I doubt it's anytime soon.
If MS *CAN* just make it work, and keep it secure, then they'll be one step closer to having me as a backer.
The wiki is my personal source of choice, I've even done some editing on the polycom pages. But also the mailing list. Tons of people on it, very knowledgable, and generally pretty nice. Do your homework first, and you should be ok.
I haven't played with asterisk@home, so i can't speak much about it. I do know that once I got the basics of asterisk, I was able to start doing some pretty advanced things without breaking a sweat.
So read read read, once you "get it", you'll get it, and you'll see what I mean about asterisk being easy to understand.
The only way it really isn't cheaper is if I stayed with basic dialup and had no cable TV. So it really is cheaper, you just have to shuffle the funds around.
That really is irrelevant however. It *may* be cheaper, but that's not the point I was trying to make. I was pointing out that voip is more usable and managable than it's traditional counterparts.
Of course, this is from a business perspective. For home use, I'm biased. Not only is it insanely cheaper than my regular pots line, I get all sorts of features that I would have to pay extra for.
The Polycoms IP500 are decent phones, I love them.
re: Voip
VoIP's main draw isn't that it's cheaper, or at least, it shouldn't be. It may be, but that can change on a dime ( heh, hat trick pun! ). It's a matter of usability. My asterisk server is far more useful to me than the old partner ACS system we used to have.
I have my voicemail emailed to me. I can record conversations on the fly. I can move my phones and have my number follow me. I can make any changes I need on the fly ( within minutes, typically ). I can train others to do the same with little trouble.
And when people say VoIP ( and asterisk in particular ) is difficult to learn, they are really referring to the POTS aspects of it. Old phone lines are complex, no doubts, and the parts of asterisk that are carry overs from a traditional pbx are similarly complex. However, asterisk itself is incredibily easy to work with. Have you ever setup samba? Apache? Asterisk is easier.
You know, while we're at it, screw sidewalks, there's a perfectly good street to walk in, people can just drive around you. And get rid of those damn public libraries, buy your own damn books. Take care of your own crime, fight your own damn fires.
All those public services are stupid ideas.
Mmmm, that reminds me I want to play simcity again.
I am surprised someone who ran smp didn't pick up on the single greatest benefit of it: Multitasking. True multitasking.
I can play wow ( 100% proc util ), and browse thot at the same time without an issues. Actually, I do pretty much anything else as well as play WoW, and there are no slow downs.
SMP isn't about speeding crap up, it's about making the system overall more responsive.
Toss in a ton of ram and SCSI, and you've got a small super powered slice of heaven.
America is really looking to be a bad place to try to develop anything, with patents and ect. causing all sorts of headaches for anybody who even thinks of trying.
You'd be surprised at how much more time you have. I also find that the bullshit I hear about from our "elected" representatives shocks me quite a bit more.
Fuck that, I would. I would get a bunch of friends to choose a day ( say; Sunday, or mother's day. The one that comes twice a month ) to go in there and use $2 bills.
I would say that's a bit paraniod, and possibly based on some educational time spent watching the sci-fi channel.
Science is full of ethical questions, bio-sciences especially. What we can do we will do ( as a race ), that's a proven fact. It's better to do what we will do in the open, in front of many eyes, instead of being done in a third world country for some wacked out group intent on bringing their own version of reality to pass.
...you're going to shoot what now? At my brain???!
I'll grant you, it's not really doing much else, so it could, in a pinch, substitute for a targetting dummy. However, as I am firmly attached to it, this seems like an idea who's time will never come.
Can you be more specific? What crap, and what laws?
DMCA. Patriot act. Just for starters.
How is iTunes DRM eroding your "freedom?" Do you not have the choice to NOT use iTunes?
I wasn't referring to iTunes. If someone wants to DRM their crap, that's fine, I won't use it. My argument goes towards the attitude that this sentence displays:
You paint a picture of an evil corporate-controlled society with black helicopters and spotlights swarming in the night to take away your cherished freedoms.
Corporations are out to control society, make no mistakes. How can you explain the DMCA otherwise? Our government, largely, is out to destroy privacy "in the interest of safety". How else would you explain the patriot act?
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If you agree to this ( EULA I'd assume ), then once the data leaves your computer, it then belongs to MS, right?
So, then, if a government wanted to see what you were up to, they could cause a crash ( power outage ), wait for you to upload the data, then sopena ms for the details.
Ya ya, I know, tinfoil hat and all that. However, if that tool did exist, that's what would happen. Were I a cop, that's what I'd do.
...now I can simply tool back the trojans I write so they just interface with this "feature" of windows.
Thank you, Microsoft, for thinking of the little guys.
Little korean guys. Who's job it is to write trojan and key loggers.
What you are saying is Google is still the best search engine out there?
Thanks, MS, for clearing up that confusion.
Seriously, it's like these guys are out to do as much evil as they can get away with.
FYI: Regardless of how fun your xmas hoax was, I don't think it's appropriate to put ads (or other off-topic links) in a slashdot post. It detracts from the actual content of a discussion. Be content with the knowledge that by writing good posts, people will occassionally follow your website link.
--Your friendly neighbourhood anon coward
I was not aware there was a specific "what you can post on slashdot" policy. Please link it, so that I too may be enlightened.
It is a simple matter of risk vs reward
Yes, it is.
Are you 100% sure you will not be targeted for assassination by a rouge government agency
I think we will both agree that a computer on a network with other computers is at higher risk of catching something than your statement.
The reward, in terms of dollars and performance, is worth the miniscule risk we take by not running the real time protection.
Do yourself a favor, and ask this question to any manager type:
"Would you prefer to have a high performance server, or a server with slightly less performance running an AV?"
Don't even mention that you can make up the performance difference with extra hardware.
I think most reasonable types ( and managers too ) would agree that the trade off is well worth it.
I am absolutely 100% sure that no damage can be done.
This would frighten me, were I your manager. People who are this sure of anything have been, in my experience, zealots for that OS or so egotistical that I don't want them making decisions.
Crap breaks, people make mistakes. I believe this to the core of my being, and I plan on it. Sure, I lose some performance, but given I can throw more hardware at that particular problem, I don't worry about it.
If no damage can be done, then why spend the money or take the performance hit?
Oh? You know this for 100%..how? God herself told you?
You don't know. Mistakes happen. Plan for them.
Don't be a retard, the point of preventing intrusion is that if you do get hacked, no damage can be done because the server is so locked down it can't do anything other then act as an SQL server.
You and I have differing definitions of "locked down", and in any case, I wasn't specifically referring to trojans, I was simply using them for the example.
Shit happens. As network admin, it's your job to limit the damage using every available mean. By not using AV on all machines ( yes, virginia, linux boxes too ), you are being negligent in your duties.
Ok, pop quiz:
Your SQL server is infected with a trojan. Nevermind how, it's not important. Your manager wants to know why it wasn't protected.
You are building yourself into a glass house. Mistakes happen. They are made by your or others on your staff. You should plan for those mistakes, life has a way of teaching these kind of lessons on it's own. Typically painfully.
If they can do all that, offer it for free and only charge for support will they have me as a backer.
No, what will win me over would be if MS stopped playing stupid little closed protocol/patent games.
I don't mind dropping a few hundred on something that "just works".
Shit that just works? That's revolutionary in the computer industry, software in particular.
Honestly, I'm thinking the linux desktop is dead in the water ( remember folks, you heard it here first! ). We may have a decent linux desktop take over the world someday, but I doubt it's anytime soon.
If MS *CAN* just make it work, and keep it secure, then they'll be one step closer to having me as a backer.
Where do I send money to if I want to make sure Paramount continues to not make Star Trek shows?
Yeah, I'd like to know this as well.
I used to like ST, but I don't have any faith for them to execute anything trek related without completely fucking it up with time plots.
The wiki is my personal source of choice, I've even done some editing on the polycom pages. But also the mailing list. Tons of people on it, very knowledgable, and generally pretty nice. Do your homework first, and you should be ok.
I haven't played with asterisk@home, so i can't speak much about it. I do know that once I got the basics of asterisk, I was able to start doing some pretty advanced things without breaking a sweat.
So read read read, once you "get it", you'll get it, and you'll see what I mean about asterisk being easy to understand.
The only way it really isn't cheaper is if I stayed with basic dialup and had no cable TV. So it really is cheaper, you just have to shuffle the funds around.
That really is irrelevant however. It *may* be cheaper, but that's not the point I was trying to make. I was pointing out that voip is more usable and managable than it's traditional counterparts.
Of course, this is from a business perspective. For home use, I'm biased. Not only is it insanely cheaper than my regular pots line, I get all sorts of features that I would have to pay extra for.
The Polycoms IP500 are decent phones, I love them.
re: Voip
VoIP's main draw isn't that it's cheaper, or at least, it shouldn't be. It may be, but that can change on a dime ( heh, hat trick pun! ). It's a matter of usability. My asterisk server is far more useful to me than the old partner ACS system we used to have.
I have my voicemail emailed to me. I can record conversations on the fly. I can move my phones and have my number follow me. I can make any changes I need on the fly ( within minutes, typically ). I can train others to do the same with little trouble.
And when people say VoIP ( and asterisk in particular ) is difficult to learn, they are really referring to the POTS aspects of it. Old phone lines are complex, no doubts, and the parts of asterisk that are carry overs from a traditional pbx are similarly complex. However, asterisk itself is incredibily easy to work with. Have you ever setup samba? Apache? Asterisk is easier.
You know, while we're at it, screw sidewalks, there's a perfectly good street to walk in, people can just drive around you. And get rid of those damn public libraries, buy your own damn books. Take care of your own crime, fight your own damn fires.
All those public services are stupid ideas.
Mmmm, that reminds me I want to play simcity again.
I am surprised someone who ran smp didn't pick up on the single greatest benefit of it: Multitasking. True multitasking.
I can play wow ( 100% proc util ), and browse thot at the same time without an issues. Actually, I do pretty much anything else as well as play WoW, and there are no slow downs.
SMP isn't about speeding crap up, it's about making the system overall more responsive.
Toss in a ton of ram and SCSI, and you've got a small super powered slice of heaven.
That's ballsy. Seriously, who do these people think they are?
Were I an ISP, on principle alone, I'd tell them where to shove their "code".
Hyopcrits.
Hi bill.
America is really looking to be a bad place to try to develop anything, with patents and ect. causing all sorts of headaches for anybody who even thinks of trying.
Good for them if they can do it.
I don't have a TV, so I don't watch it.
You'd be surprised at how much more time you have. I also find that the bullshit I hear about from our "elected" representatives shocks me quite a bit more.
TV: Societies' prozac
Fuck that, I would. I would get a bunch of friends to choose a day ( say; Sunday, or mother's day. The one that comes twice a month ) to go in there and use $2 bills.
I would say that's a bit paraniod, and possibly based on some educational time spent watching the sci-fi channel.
Science is full of ethical questions, bio-sciences especially. What we can do we will do ( as a race ), that's a proven fact. It's better to do what we will do in the open, in front of many eyes, instead of being done in a third world country for some wacked out group intent on bringing their own version of reality to pass.
...you're going to shoot what now? At my brain???!
I'll grant you, it's not really doing much else, so it could, in a pinch, substitute for a targetting dummy. However, as I am firmly attached to it, this seems like an idea who's time will never come.
Can you be more specific? What crap, and what laws?
DMCA. Patriot act. Just for starters.
How is iTunes DRM eroding your "freedom?" Do you not have the choice to NOT use iTunes?
I wasn't referring to iTunes. If someone wants to DRM their crap, that's fine, I won't use it. My argument goes towards the attitude that this sentence displays:
You paint a picture of an evil corporate-controlled society with black helicopters and spotlights swarming in the night to take away your cherished freedoms.
Corporations are out to control society, make no mistakes. How can you explain the DMCA otherwise? Our government, largely, is out to destroy privacy "in the interest of safety". How else would you explain the patriot act?