Why would I be trolling to change the mind of one person, my money is on that we are the only ones still reading this.
This one time comes around at most every 10 years. I do not see something that comes around every 10 years as much of a priority compared to something hapenning every day. Your entire argument seems to based on the fact that terrorists wish to commit mass murder at a single instance in time. Realize that no matter how much money we spend, one day there will be a thermonuclear explosion on our territory. Its inavidible. As time grows greater and more countries acquire the knowledge on nuclear power the chance of it happening approaches 1. That is not something we can ever fully stop. But getting our murder rate to be anywhere near the ballpark of where Japan is today is a lot more reasonable. Its domestic, so by doing it we wont get more people around the world upset with us. Realize that the CIA told Congress that by going into Iraq it would make our country less safe. This is a known fact. It was on the record. Probably publicly available now. Now the chances of us getting hit by another terrorist attack by either Al Quida or some other group is much more likely. By us attacking Iraq they have probably had more recruits then ever. We may think we have captured 90% of their intelligence, but we dont know exactly. Plus their ranks have probably trippled during that time. Did you know that finding Osama is no longer a priority? Bush was quoted saying this. We are barely doing anything to find him. He is just sitting perfectly safe transmitting satelite signals from somewhere in the mountains. We cant follow him b/c the local police has to be with us and approve all our actions. He is not going to be either captured or killed anytime soon. Weve been after him for 3 years now and are not any closer.
Direct operations? They still are, its by satelite and we cant stop it. These terrorists you are talking about lived in America for years before boarding those flights. They were nowhere near any base. And their base, if they had one would have been in Afganistan, not Iraq.
Stop being so racist. Not all Islamic people want to fly into buildings. Al Quida followers have a different understanding of the Koran. Specifically sections dealing with Jihad. There is a specific phrase, but I dont remember what it is. Most Islamic people are peaceful and dont give a damn about the Taliban. But now that we have attacked them and their way of life, Im sure many more are coming over to the Talibans side.
I already explained that they didnt have WMD, and we knew about that. Give it up.
Why are you so content with saying we will always have homicides in our society? In our country something like 3.97 per 100,000 die from homicides every year, compare that to Japans 0.01! Or Canadas 2. We are way above average. We more than double it. If we were at least average, it would save at least 9,000 people every year.
How are managers and CEO's productive citizens. I have no respect for paper pushers. Although I realize we need some for our society to function, I hate those that steal money, and try to suck every dime out of the average consumer. While the smoke from the factories fills the air and the Gov't turns its back on us.
One of the only good things that increases our safety released by the Gov't thus far have been the resistant doors to the pilot chambers. Everything else is just retarded. I had to go to the Cook County Court House a while ago for a ticket and they took away a 1 inch blade that I had. When I came back on a Saturday for traffic school there was no security and I just walked in. I could have hid that knife anywhere. Or even a gun, there were plants, lockers, drawers all open. No security. But on weekdays they will take away your weapons. Now how dumb is that. This is what Im paying taxes for? Ironically I do work for the government, and all the taxes I pay I get back in my paycheck anyways.
I dont see what attacking Iraq had to do with keeping WMD out of Islamic hands. I have already told you that Iraq did not have WMD and had no direct contact with the Taliban. I was not as opposed to attacking Afganistan, which cost less and had direct ties to Al Quida. We are still in direct contact with countries who donate regularly to the Taliban. Uzbecherstan(dont know if thats the correct English spelling) has always donated money to the Taliban and still does so on a regular bases. We have perfectly fine contact with them. No sanctions no nothing. As you can see we are not bringing the war to them.
To add onto all this, why are we letting Dubya pass out gov't contracts to his friends. Why has there been no bid process to see who should get the money to rebuild Iraq? His entire administration is filled with millionares and billionares who are afraid. I am a programmer. My parents are engineers and we will not be visiting either the Pentagon or any large capital building any time soon. The terrorists are not trying to kill me. The business assholes are scared shitless. Did you visit the World Trade center on a regular bases? Im guessing no. Look at the statistics, when the Towers colapsed they took with them 35 of Concordes regular passengers. A one way trip on the Concorde was what, 10 grand? I would like to meet the programmer who makes enough to fly the Concorde at least once a month(actually programming).
First of all French currently hold the most powerfull and largest army in Europe. You and I are both in the US so we have not heard about it in the news, but its a known fact. In other words, I think it may be a little worthwhile to listen to what they have to say. You say "terrorists are killing thousands, millions", but they are doing so in small instances. They killed 3,000 in 10 years. As opposed to gangs which are killing that much every year. So lets see, 3,000 vs 30,000 in 10 years. Ohh hey lets get the ones which kill less people. I dont think Dubya (and thank you for calling him that) orchestrated 911. So lets see gangs have killed 6,000 since 911, highway accidents have killed 60,000. While I see billions of dollars going to defence, I dont see anything near that much going into highway safety. I travel on the highways every day. The chances of me getting killed by a terrorist are 0. Let me say it again, 0. Just yesterday I was driving normally and some guy blabbing away on a cell phone cut me off. Nearly killed me. I was so pissed I nearly dropped my razor into my cereal. There are more important things to worry about then 100 people 100,000 miles away. When I walk on the streets of Chicago Im more woried about someone pulling a gun on me. I would like to see stuff like that taken care off before we spend another 100 billion on defence from nothing compared to what happens on a domestic level.
And as an after thought, I gave Bush some leeway if you didnt notice. I said that if had attacked Iraq just to scare other countries, I said that was fine. Makes more sense every day since we obviously know they didnt have WMD, otherwise we wouldnt have attacked them. You dont see us getting ready to go into North Korea. And we know they have WMD. And dont even dare say Iraq or Hussein had anything to do with terrorists. You know it didnt. Its a fact known to everyone around the world except Fox News, CNN.
Gang members kill people. Terrorists kill people. You are saying we should deal with them differently. And that just because most terrorists are located outside this country makes them more important. You may say that if we let them go, it would just give other nations the green light that we are ok with people attacking us. But that is just not true. That may be a sensible approach by the Bush administration. To scare other countries shitless. That would make an excelent reason to attack Iraq. What I am trolling about as you call it, is all the lies he uses to string us along. And while our world opinion as an agressor might be a possible path, I think there are better options. Overall I would just like to see more money spent in the direction of solving domestic problems, and the stopping of corporate monopolies controlling government decisions so much.
So just because it has the potential to become a human you would not eat it. Ok well in that case kill me. Cause Ive killed millions of people while I was bored. Ohh and we should obviously kill all those women that have had their periods. We can find them easily. If a woman has not had a single child in one year. We should put her in an electric chair.
Youre right its not obvious. But the John Grisham book A Time to Kill put it best (not sure about spellings). When you murder someone it hurts their family, the person, but then its mostly over. But when you rape a child, the person is asking why it happened for the rest of their life. Its kind of a difference between a life sentence to torture and just death. And besides life isnt fair, and the law sucks. Take prostitution for instance. Its legal to fuck someone. Its legal to pay someone for a message. But its illegal to pay someone to fuck you. Wheres the logic in that?
But to be specific:Obviously we are facing an enemy unlike any other we have ever faced before.
Many countries have had to deal with terrorists for centuries. We have faced enemies that werent there before. Remember all those commie bastards that killed all of us. Or how about those damn Japs while they were locked inside camps. And just screw those Jews wreaking havok on the German economy. Gotta kill em all.
So just be careful not to mess with Big Brother, because he's out to save his ass and he's pissed off
I still remember voting against Big Brother. God those were happy times. Ohh I am glad he is taking this seriously. These 3,000 deaths, 10 years since the last attack btw, are so much worse than the 30,000 people dying on highways every year. Or how about the 18,000 getting murdered each year. Those people dont matter at all. We need to care about the corporate assholes that were in these buildings. I say its too bad they missed Ashcroft at the Pentagon.
This is a new and different era, and it will take time and sacrifice to adjust to it.
Dont be so full of yourself. This has happened before over and over again. Read a book once in a while. France is still struggling with terrorists every day. Israel has been working with terrorists ever since they became a country. This is old news.
From what I understand, this is nothing new. Classified "enemy combatants" have been allowed to be so detained
Ford threw that policy long ago. If I remember correctly the resolution numbers were 9066 to instate and 7000 something to remove. Look at the books, thats why they needed to reinstate it again. And we are not in a war now. The gang members outnumber the Al Quaida by the thousands. Why dont we pick a target thats actually causing damage.
And in general read what I said, the point of this law is to remove the Judicial branch from the process. This takes care of all your Justice Dep't crap.
No judges have even ruled that a criminal has been wrongly prosecuted under this act
Read the act before you make these comments. BTW yes I do know this is/.. The contravercial part of the act that we have trouble with is the fact that someone can be detained without the courts approval. Under the act the FBI could just keep someone for however long they want without reporting it to anyone. And they have. Read some of the other posts showing people which have been detained for months at a time.
Have you seen the murder rates. Spending one day in Chicago has 1 in a Mil chances of getting murdered. And I come here nearly every day. Do you know the chances of winning the lottery? Or how about getting struck by lightning?
In retrospect I think thats what Bush should now be protecting us from, getting hit by lightning. Chances of getting hit by lightning are slightly more than getting killed by a terrorist.
So if we were able to magnify the chicken cells, change the electron configuration by running a small electrical pulse to a human configuration, would it still be ok to eat it?
I read that book. It was fiction. Although he always claims to be using all these reasorces, he is usually getting the wrong conclusion from them. He uses quantum mechanics incorrectly to prove his multiple universe theory. I think that type of argument is called Chicken nest or something like that. IMHO the last good book he wrote was Jurasic Park. The 3 after that sucked.
Light is just energy. Think about when light passes through glass. Do you think it just stops on one side and then appears suddenly on the other side out of nowhere? The molecules in the glass store the energy of the light, then pass it onto the next molecule. Therefore for a very short amount of time that molecule stored the light. But what seems to have been done here, is that the scientists were able to keep the molecules in that excited state for a longer amount of time. BTW I did not RTFA, used to be a Phys Eng major.
Moderators, quantom technology has been connected very closely to time travel. For more information look at any quantum book. I would suggest Stephen Hawkings old book, A Brief History of Time.I dont have Mod points anymore so I cant correct this.
Iraq had nothing to do with terrorists. The security council(our security council, CIA) told Congress before we went into Iraq, that doing so would make us less safe, even if they had WMD.
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So since the gov't is doing it, it would be impossible to make a charge like extortion stick to the RIAA?
This is why I see all speed limit signs as suggestions, rather than laws.
Why would I be trolling to change the mind of one person, my money is on that we are the only ones still reading this.
This one time comes around at most every 10 years. I do not see something that comes around every 10 years as much of a priority compared to something hapenning every day. Your entire argument seems to based on the fact that terrorists wish to commit mass murder at a single instance in time. Realize that no matter how much money we spend, one day there will be a thermonuclear explosion on our territory. Its inavidible. As time grows greater and more countries acquire the knowledge on nuclear power the chance of it happening approaches 1. That is not something we can ever fully stop. But getting our murder rate to be anywhere near the ballpark of where Japan is today is a lot more reasonable. Its domestic, so by doing it we wont get more people around the world upset with us. Realize that the CIA told Congress that by going into Iraq it would make our country less safe. This is a known fact. It was on the record. Probably publicly available now. Now the chances of us getting hit by another terrorist attack by either Al Quida or some other group is much more likely. By us attacking Iraq they have probably had more recruits then ever. We may think we have captured 90% of their intelligence, but we dont know exactly. Plus their ranks have probably trippled during that time. Did you know that finding Osama is no longer a priority? Bush was quoted saying this. We are barely doing anything to find him. He is just sitting perfectly safe transmitting satelite signals from somewhere in the mountains. We cant follow him b/c the local police has to be with us and approve all our actions. He is not going to be either captured or killed anytime soon. Weve been after him for 3 years now and are not any closer.
Direct operations? They still are, its by satelite and we cant stop it. These terrorists you are talking about lived in America for years before boarding those flights. They were nowhere near any base. And their base, if they had one would have been in Afganistan, not Iraq.
Stop being so racist. Not all Islamic people want to fly into buildings. Al Quida followers have a different understanding of the Koran. Specifically sections dealing with Jihad. There is a specific phrase, but I dont remember what it is. Most Islamic people are peaceful and dont give a damn about the Taliban. But now that we have attacked them and their way of life, Im sure many more are coming over to the Talibans side.
I already explained that they didnt have WMD, and we knew about that. Give it up.
Why are you so content with saying we will always have homicides in our society? In our country something like 3.97 per 100,000 die from homicides every year, compare that to Japans 0.01! Or Canadas 2. We are way above average. We more than double it. If we were at least average, it would save at least 9,000 people every year.
How are managers and CEO's productive citizens. I have no respect for paper pushers. Although I realize we need some for our society to function, I hate those that steal money, and try to suck every dime out of the average consumer. While the smoke from the factories fills the air and the Gov't turns its back on us.
One of the only good things that increases our safety released by the Gov't thus far have been the resistant doors to the pilot chambers. Everything else is just retarded. I had to go to the Cook County Court House a while ago for a ticket and they took away a 1 inch blade that I had. When I came back on a Saturday for traffic school there was no security and I just walked in. I could have hid that knife anywhere. Or even a gun, there were plants, lockers, drawers all open. No security. But on weekdays they will take away your weapons. Now how dumb is that. This is what Im paying taxes for? Ironically I do work for the government, and all the taxes I pay I get back in my paycheck anyways.
I dont see what attacking Iraq had to do with keeping WMD out of Islamic hands. I have already told you that Iraq did not have WMD and had no direct contact with the Taliban. I was not as opposed to attacking Afganistan, which cost less and had direct ties to Al Quida. We are still in direct contact with countries who donate regularly to the Taliban. Uzbecherstan(dont know if thats the correct English spelling) has always donated money to the Taliban and still does so on a regular bases. We have perfectly fine contact with them. No sanctions no nothing. As you can see we are not bringing the war to them.
To add onto all this, why are we letting Dubya pass out gov't contracts to his friends. Why has there been no bid process to see who should get the money to rebuild Iraq? His entire administration is filled with millionares and billionares who are afraid. I am a programmer. My parents are engineers and we will not be visiting either the Pentagon or any large capital building any time soon. The terrorists are not trying to kill me. The business assholes are scared shitless. Did you visit the World Trade center on a regular bases? Im guessing no. Look at the statistics, when the Towers colapsed they took with them 35 of Concordes regular passengers. A one way trip on the Concorde was what, 10 grand? I would like to meet the programmer who makes enough to fly the Concorde at least once a month(actually programming).
Debian 8? Isnt there a Debian alpha they can upgrade to.
Think of the great headlines.
Microsoft believes Windows security only works due to the obscurity
Microsoft source code released
First of all French currently hold the most powerfull and largest army in Europe. You and I are both in the US so we have not heard about it in the news, but its a known fact. In other words, I think it may be a little worthwhile to listen to what they have to say. You say "terrorists are killing thousands, millions", but they are doing so in small instances. They killed 3,000 in 10 years. As opposed to gangs which are killing that much every year. So lets see, 3,000 vs 30,000 in 10 years. Ohh hey lets get the ones which kill less people. I dont think Dubya (and thank you for calling him that) orchestrated 911. So lets see gangs have killed 6,000 since 911, highway accidents have killed 60,000. While I see billions of dollars going to defence, I dont see anything near that much going into highway safety. I travel on the highways every day. The chances of me getting killed by a terrorist are 0. Let me say it again, 0. Just yesterday I was driving normally and some guy blabbing away on a cell phone cut me off. Nearly killed me. I was so pissed I nearly dropped my razor into my cereal. There are more important things to worry about then 100 people 100,000 miles away. When I walk on the streets of Chicago Im more woried about someone pulling a gun on me. I would like to see stuff like that taken care off before we spend another 100 billion on defence from nothing compared to what happens on a domestic level.
And as an after thought, I gave Bush some leeway if you didnt notice. I said that if had attacked Iraq just to scare other countries, I said that was fine. Makes more sense every day since we obviously know they didnt have WMD, otherwise we wouldnt have attacked them. You dont see us getting ready to go into North Korea. And we know they have WMD. And dont even dare say Iraq or Hussein had anything to do with terrorists. You know it didnt. Its a fact known to everyone around the world except Fox News, CNN.
Gang members kill people. Terrorists kill people. You are saying we should deal with them differently. And that just because most terrorists are located outside this country makes them more important. You may say that if we let them go, it would just give other nations the green light that we are ok with people attacking us. But that is just not true. That may be a sensible approach by the Bush administration. To scare other countries shitless. That would make an excelent reason to attack Iraq. What I am trolling about as you call it, is all the lies he uses to string us along. And while our world opinion as an agressor might be a possible path, I think there are better options. Overall I would just like to see more money spent in the direction of solving domestic problems, and the stopping of corporate monopolies controlling government decisions so much.
So just because it has the potential to become a human you would not eat it. Ok well in that case kill me. Cause Ive killed millions of people while I was bored. Ohh and we should obviously kill all those women that have had their periods. We can find them easily. If a woman has not had a single child in one year. We should put her in an electric chair.
Youre right its not obvious. But the John Grisham book A Time to Kill put it best (not sure about spellings). When you murder someone it hurts their family, the person, but then its mostly over. But when you rape a child, the person is asking why it happened for the rest of their life. Its kind of a difference between a life sentence to torture and just death. And besides life isnt fair, and the law sucks. Take prostitution for instance. Its legal to fuck someone. Its legal to pay someone for a message. But its illegal to pay someone to fuck you. Wheres the logic in that?
You fucking conservatives are a real pain in the ass. I can't wait until society wipes you off the map of history you antiquated coprolite.
The problem is that in 10 years you will become the conservative. And history will repeat itself.
LOL just LOL. Youre entire comment just LOL.
But to be specific:Obviously we are facing an enemy unlike any other we have ever faced before.
Many countries have had to deal with terrorists for centuries. We have faced enemies that werent there before. Remember all those commie bastards that killed all of us. Or how about those damn Japs while they were locked inside camps. And just screw those Jews wreaking havok on the German economy. Gotta kill em all.
So just be careful not to mess with Big Brother, because he's out to save his ass and he's pissed off
I still remember voting against Big Brother. God those were happy times. Ohh I am glad he is taking this seriously. These 3,000 deaths, 10 years since the last attack btw, are so much worse than the 30,000 people dying on highways every year. Or how about the 18,000 getting murdered each year. Those people dont matter at all. We need to care about the corporate assholes that were in these buildings. I say its too bad they missed Ashcroft at the Pentagon.
This is a new and different era, and it will take time and sacrifice to adjust to it.
Dont be so full of yourself. This has happened before over and over again. Read a book once in a while. France is still struggling with terrorists every day. Israel has been working with terrorists ever since they became a country. This is old news.
From what I understand, this is nothing new. Classified "enemy combatants" have been allowed to be so detained
Ford threw that policy long ago. If I remember correctly the resolution numbers were 9066 to instate and 7000 something to remove. Look at the books, thats why they needed to reinstate it again. And we are not in a war now. The gang members outnumber the Al Quaida by the thousands. Why dont we pick a target thats actually causing damage.
And in general read what I said, the point of this law is to remove the Judicial branch from the process. This takes care of all your Justice Dep't crap.
No judges have even ruled that a criminal has been wrongly prosecuted under this act
/.. The contravercial part of the act that we have trouble with is the fact that someone can be detained without the courts approval. Under the act the FBI could just keep someone for however long they want without reporting it to anyone. And they have. Read some of the other posts showing people which have been detained for months at a time.
Read the act before you make these comments. BTW yes I do know this is
America is the safest country on Earth
Have you seen the murder rates. Spending one day in Chicago has 1 in a Mil chances of getting murdered. And I come here nearly every day. Do you know the chances of winning the lottery? Or how about getting struck by lightning?
In retrospect I think thats what Bush should now be protecting us from, getting hit by lightning. Chances of getting hit by lightning are slightly more than getting killed by a terrorist.
For the record, I would kill to be related to a genius like Al Bundy. For another record, I would kill for the Nobel Peace Prize.
So if we were able to magnify the chicken cells, change the electron configuration by running a small electrical pulse to a human configuration, would it still be ok to eat it?
"Shutup Fatass!" -Stan
Maybe you could be Big Gay Al. Or his favorite cousin Al Bundy.
Read my sig, ironic that im posting a comment so you could just read my sig.
Even the makers know how stupid this is, and that they are just waisting government money for no reason.
I read that book. It was fiction. Although he always claims to be using all these reasorces, he is usually getting the wrong conclusion from them. He uses quantum mechanics incorrectly to prove his multiple universe theory. I think that type of argument is called Chicken nest or something like that. IMHO the last good book he wrote was Jurasic Park. The 3 after that sucked.
electrons jumping to a higher state/orbit, whatever you wanna call it.
Light is just energy. Think about when light passes through glass. Do you think it just stops on one side and then appears suddenly on the other side out of nowhere? The molecules in the glass store the energy of the light, then pass it onto the next molecule. Therefore for a very short amount of time that molecule stored the light. But what seems to have been done here, is that the scientists were able to keep the molecules in that excited state for a longer amount of time. BTW I did not RTFA, used to be a Phys Eng major.
Moderators, quantom technology has been connected very closely to time travel. For more information look at any quantum book. I would suggest Stephen Hawkings old book, A Brief History of Time.I dont have Mod points anymore so I cant correct this.
Maybe, but you may still have trouble: Bush
Iraq had nothing to do with terrorists. The security council(our security council, CIA) told Congress before we went into Iraq, that doing so would make us less safe, even if they had WMD.