The agenda of this seems to be "omg big companies are the devil" nonsense. why must this be seen as a threat to OSS? because stallman says so? one of the biggest fails of open source is it's lack of reliable support or response to customer deamnds, if more big names jump on board an throw money at developers it'll only help OSS.
as opposed to the maintence in a coal fired power station or nuclear, it'd be a hell of a lot less actually.
making it work is the problem, these guys have nothing but a track record of failure and doing nothing. i don't oppose spending money on idea's, but there has to be more then endless studies that go no where.
no one cares about open source. the sooner OSS people understand this the better. people care about what works the best and what looks the best (in that order).
i think you along with a lot of other people are making it out to be worse then it is. the fact that you haven't left proves it. really the USA has it's flaws (yes i have visited), but by large it's still a pretty amazing and FREE country.
the amiga was dead 20 years ago if we want to be truthful about it guys. this is just a case of people doing stuff because they can. there's also a guy out there who collects brown paper bags.
under "With whom may your personal information be shared?" they clearly state.
"We reserve the right to disclose your personal information as required by law or in special cases"
basiclly your goose is cooked if they want to hand over your info, they can just call it a "special case".
and how exactly is the privacy policy contradicting the terms of use? you make the statement but don't back it up with anything. not only that but i can't see the privacy policy ever trumping ToS, since ToS is viewed as a contract where as you said yourself, a privacy policy is merely a "promise".
blizzrd have never said they will protect your privacy, you've just assumed it. in their terms and condidtions they have a clause stating they will co operate with law enforcement.
section 17c.
"C. Blizzard may, with or without notice to you, disclose your Internet Protocol (IP) address(es), personal information, Chat logs, and other information about you and your activities: (a) in response to a request by law enforcement, a court order or other legal process; or (b) if Blizzard believes that doing so may protect your safety or the safety of others. "
umm, yes, please show me where i said you said it was illegal?!
why should the police have to get a subpoena first, wasting court time and tax payers money? i'd much rather they try just writing a polite letter first which costs 45c.
and why are you attacking the police if your beef is with blizzard? it sounds like you don't know how the world works dude...
"And the top line is that we have the right to criticize the fuck out of them for doing it."
criticize all you want, but your suggesting the police strong armed blizzard into it which is just plain wrong as there's no kind of proof or suggestion of that at all. stick to criticizing blizzard and the police for stuff they do, not shit you make up.
"And your ranting reeks of the typical subordinate-male personality that requires a rigid societal hierarchy in order to feel good about themselves. And that mentality goes back to the apes."
i'm astounded, you read all that out of my short post? if your right then you have an insight into human psychology so deep that your a true genius. OR your wrong, and your just unable to refute anything i've said or come up with a decent rebuttal of your own, so your going on the attack (much like a frustrate ape would, ironically)
you are a moron sir. tasers SAVE LIVES. without them police have no option other then to shoot, which is far more dangerous then a taser. just last week there was a grandfather in australia who was threatening 3 police with a knife, they pepper sprayed him but he kept comming, and their only option was to shoot him.
if those police had tasers, he would still be alive.
saying tasers kill is like people being afraid of getting immunisations or claiming condoms don't stop AIDS. they take the bullshit small chance of something going wrong and blow it out of proportion till they've convinced themselfs they are right.
why? subpoena is only required when you refuse the polices request, there's no law against willingly handing over data or information to the police.
you problem is you don't understand that blizzard owns the data not the player in question. the player is shit out of luck if blizzard wants to snitch on him.
bottom line is that this data is blizzards to hand over, and they made the choice to do so. law enforcement are perfectly within their rights to ASK for co operation, there's no law against it. if you refuse they have the option of asking for a court order to force you.
how the fuck are the police going to harrass blizzard anyway? bliz is a billion dollar company they would unleash a +100 epic lawyer spell on the police if they tried to.
you ranting reeks of the typical daddy didn't love me enough now i'm going to rebel against everything crap so common these days.
you aren' denying them their belief that drinking beer on sunday is a sin, your denying them the belief they get to control everyone in the name of god. subtle difference.
your an idiot, go live in china if you think it's more free then the USA. the USA may not be perfect, but it's still a hell of a lot more free then a communist state.
hang on a second. a few weeks ago slashdot ran a story about how MPAA memebers enjoyed a record box office year, so how are they failing and making record sales at the same time?
search engines are supposed to discriminate. they pick a winner and a loser and rank everything inbetween. so this guys site was like every other shitty fucking link aggregator out there and google weeded it out for it's users. fuck you very much thanks for playing.
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The agenda of this seems to be "omg big companies are the devil" nonsense. why must this be seen as a threat to OSS? because stallman says so? one of the biggest fails of open source is it's lack of reliable support or response to customer deamnds, if more big names jump on board an throw money at developers it'll only help OSS.
strong encryption means they can't access it no matter where the data is. why are we even talking about this?
making it work is the problem, these guys have nothing but a track record of failure and doing nothing. i don't oppose spending money on idea's, but there has to be more then endless studies that go no where.
no one cares about open source. the sooner OSS people understand this the better. people care about what works the best and what looks the best (in that order).
cocain, it's a hell of a drug.
if he is hoping to get some kind of readership by provoking nerd rage he's doing it wrong.
it's nonsense really. the digester is total inefficent, the killer robot is merely a pipe dream.
that only makes the case stronger to waste their time and keep them from real victims and making more money.
i think you along with a lot of other people are making it out to be worse then it is. the fact that you haven't left proves it. really the USA has it's flaws (yes i have visited), but by large it's still a pretty amazing and FREE country.
the amiga was dead 20 years ago if we want to be truthful about it guys. this is just a case of people doing stuff because they can. there's also a guy out there who collects brown paper bags.
it lost all credability when they shoe horned that nugget in there. measuring something via satillite is hardly a break through.
... the USA is just as bad!!
under "With whom may your personal information be shared?" they clearly state.
"We reserve the right to disclose your personal information as required by law or in special cases"
basiclly your goose is cooked if they want to hand over your info, they can just call it a "special case". and how exactly is the privacy policy contradicting the terms of use? you make the statement but don't back it up with anything. not only that but i can't see the privacy policy ever trumping ToS, since ToS is viewed as a contract where as you said yourself, a privacy policy is merely a "promise".
section 17c. "C. Blizzard may, with or without notice to you, disclose your Internet Protocol (IP) address(es), personal information, Chat logs, and other information about you and your activities: (a) in response to a request by law enforcement, a court order or other legal process; or (b) if Blizzard believes that doing so may protect your safety or the safety of others. "
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html
BAM, thanks for playing.
why should the police have to get a subpoena first, wasting court time and tax payers money? i'd much rather they try just writing a polite letter first which costs 45c.
and why are you attacking the police if your beef is with blizzard? it sounds like you don't know how the world works dude...
criticize all you want, but your suggesting the police strong armed blizzard into it which is just plain wrong as there's no kind of proof or suggestion of that at all. stick to criticizing blizzard and the police for stuff they do, not shit you make up.
"And your ranting reeks of the typical subordinate-male personality that requires a rigid societal hierarchy in order to feel good about themselves. And that mentality goes back to the apes."
i'm astounded, you read all that out of my short post? if your right then you have an insight into human psychology so deep that your a true genius. OR your wrong, and your just unable to refute anything i've said or come up with a decent rebuttal of your own, so your going on the attack (much like a frustrate ape would, ironically)
i'm betting your wrong....
if those police had tasers, he would still be alive.
saying tasers kill is like people being afraid of getting immunisations or claiming condoms don't stop AIDS. they take the bullshit small chance of something going wrong and blow it out of proportion till they've convinced themselfs they are right.
umm, nothing. what the fuck do you think they would do, cry a river? seriously lets also ask why cows are purple and how wet water is.
why? subpoena is only required when you refuse the polices request, there's no law against willingly handing over data or information to the police.
you problem is you don't understand that blizzard owns the data not the player in question. the player is shit out of luck if blizzard wants to snitch on him.
how the fuck are the police going to harrass blizzard anyway? bliz is a billion dollar company they would unleash a +100 epic lawyer spell on the police if they tried to.
you ranting reeks of the typical daddy didn't love me enough now i'm going to rebel against everything crap so common these days.
you aren' denying them their belief that drinking beer on sunday is a sin, your denying them the belief they get to control everyone in the name of god. subtle difference.
your an idiot, go live in china if you think it's more free then the USA. the USA may not be perfect, but it's still a hell of a lot more free then a communist state.
hang on a second. a few weeks ago slashdot ran a story about how MPAA memebers enjoyed a record box office year, so how are they failing and making record sales at the same time?
search engines are supposed to discriminate. they pick a winner and a loser and rank everything inbetween. so this guys site was like every other shitty fucking link aggregator out there and google weeded it out for it's users. fuck you very much thanks for playing.
this is just a wahhhhhh my internet company didn't work lets blame google for everything piece. atleast slashdot is consistently SHIT