I'll amend my post. It was obscure to me that the reference was as far back as it was and I lost the obliqueness. So, yes I did. Apologies to by BlakJak.
But I still wouldn't allow external, possibly contaminated devices on any network holding any information worth a shit or even just because the boss didn't want it. Not their machines and I really don't buy the arguments. I heard them for thirty years and they were always bogus. I see no reason to believe different now.
"if your productivity is being hindered by 'stone knives and bearskins'"
"Let your productivity slide and when they ask why, point out to them how they're screwing themselves over with their stone-age conventions?"
He clearly states that with productivity high ***while using stone knives and bearskins*** that you should allow it to slide in order to 'point out' how *they're* screwing themselves.
"If you're using your own equipment and spending extra hours and your productivity is high..."
Why is it that now that tablets have taken off, they're essential? They weren't as short as two years ago and I'll call anyone a liar who says that the IT *job* has changed enough to mandate a tablet unless your developing specifically for one.
It's just a desired toy.
As pointed out, that desk one sits at already has a phone and PC on top of it. Has had for the last two years. The smartphone and tablet are superfluous.
Although what you wrote was hyperbole and humorous, indeed banking is a highly restrictive environ. You want something installed on your PC? No. There's no debate, no asking again, no whining; it's simply not done. Not when I was there anyway. Hell, they even removed Mine Sweeper and Solitaire. Every PC was identical (at a given hierarchical level).
So I always find these discussions hilarious, because someone invariably mentions having wanted custom mouse drivers or something equally ridiculous installed on the company's machine they work on and how it's just so suppressive and thoughtless and stupid they wouldn't.
As far as that last paragraph, there was a breach by an armed team when I worked at the bank, so I give not one shit or holler if there's an incidental false alarm or two.
If the clients you have now asked that you secure your desktops/phone, would you? It's a choice. He obviously would. You do not have to. Neither choice is wrong.
"So just to be sure I understand this correctly,... almost always perpetrated by top management?
No, apparently you do not understand it correctly. The feds placed the restrictions and he's ensuring some dip-shit doesn't get the company shut down and everyone lose their jobs. Nor are these breaches of security "almost always" perpetrated by top management.;)
Really? What happens if a plumber, say in Chicago, works on your system and finds that there's been jury-rigged crap attached and it doesn't meet code?
Hint: You get a visit from city gov and are told that you *will indeed* bring your house plumbing up to code.
And you shouldn't bitch to IT. For one, they can ignore you. You also shouldn't sneak shit into the system. You can get canned. You instead make your case - along with diagrams, charts and dollar figures - and present it to upper management. Those who can direct the IT department. If you make your case, you win. If you don't make your case, it's not your company.
Now, Sparky, if anyone in your IT happens to read this article and your comment, Anonymous though it may be, he can check for recent requests for wacom mouse driver installation and rejection, then check if they'd been snuck in.
Appropriate response: You're looking for another place to infect.
"if your productivity is high, they're going to think all is well. Let your productivity slide and when they ask why,..."
If you need to do that, then you don't friggin' *need* those cool tools, do you? You're simply espousing extortion. Hopefully, management will realize this and take truly appropriate measures.
"Sadly I've never been in the position to be able to hand out money..."
Then you have no skin in the game and your self-anointed grace at living up to not giving a man a fish because you feel education is more important is just posturing.
Due to the condescension, I'd have to say pompous posturing.
Your city must be corruptive. Down here, the local RC's are very straight, but pleasantly open and accepting. I wouldn't party with them or even sit an evening's discourse, but I certainly wouldn't disparage them as a group.
And of course, we all know those who post here aren't hypocritical with any of their own views. You and myself in particular.
"I'd let the power and resources of the FBI determine who to arrest."
And they've found no one to arrest. Of course, being that they aren't arresting any top bankers, etc, now it's a conspiracy.
"But asking ME who I would go after sounds like a Troll."
Well, no. Since you're AC, you could be anyone.
"Interesting how nobody in the banking community who caused... who hacked a useless website."
But, let's play. You see, you asked (obliquely) why the feds weren't pursuing people in the banking community. You left if very vague so as to infer collusion. You were simply then asked to provide names and crimes so the process could begin.
You had none, so to deflect that little truth, you yelled Troll.
Interest thing is, you're the Troll.
I'll provide some proof, instead of simply hollering.
"I'd let the... FBI determine who to arrest." and "... asking the FBI why,... they haven't found anybody to put in jail." express two opposing views.
Either you have the confidence in the feds to determine who to arrest or you don't. You stated you did, but everything you've written says you don't. This allows you presumed moral authority on either side of the issue.
"It's subjectively judged by the receiver from the speaker/writer."
The receiver of the UI perceives it as condescending. Therefore, it's condescending. In this case, condescension from the UI designer.
"But non language based aspects of UIs?"
UI are communication. That's all that's required for condescension, communication. Making all my controls look like Fischer Price toy buttons is condescension.
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They can ladle in, layer on and apply all the eye-candy they want - just let me turn it off. That way, when you close a window in 7, you can delight into it's apparently falling back to the ground (sans shatter, one would think they'd remember the finale) and I can have mine simply disappear.
"... but the basic concept of using an animation to reflect a transition of display from one state to another is sound."
Only if the transition is lengthy. On the order of a number of seconds lengthy, not 1/4-1/2 second.
If the developer feels the absolute *need* to farm out some sort of "Hey, I'm reacting to the key-press!", a simple click would suffice, not an animation of a fake page turning.
If, in turn, the developer simply gets his rocks off by making little gifs to use, fine. Include them and allow me to turn off the annoying little bastards - and make that easy to find.
"A lot of the annoyances" sounds like he found those things annoying (window growth, window fall-back, semi-transparency...) and removed the annoyance.
I disconnected most of the new crap from Win7 as well. Not because I don't understand it, there's not that much to "understand" - I just don't like it. Simple as that.
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I'll amend my post. It was obscure to me that the reference was as far back as it was and I lost the obliqueness. So, yes I did. Apologies to by BlakJak.
But I still wouldn't allow external, possibly contaminated devices on any network holding any information worth a shit or even just because the boss didn't want it. Not their machines and I really don't buy the arguments. I heard them for thirty years and they were always bogus. I see no reason to believe different now.
I didn't misunderstand at all.
"if your productivity is being hindered by 'stone knives and bearskins'"
"Let your productivity slide and when they ask why, point out to them how they're screwing themselves over with their stone-age conventions?"
He clearly states that with productivity high ***while using stone knives and bearskins*** that you should allow it to slide in order to 'point out' how *they're* screwing themselves.
"If you're using your own equipment and spending extra hours and your productivity is high..."
Not at all what he said.
Why is it that now that tablets have taken off, they're essential? They weren't as short as two years ago and I'll call anyone a liar who says that the IT *job* has changed enough to mandate a tablet unless your developing specifically for one.
It's just a desired toy.
As pointed out, that desk one sits at already has a phone and PC on top of it. Has had for the last two years. The smartphone and tablet are superfluous.
Although what you wrote was hyperbole and humorous, indeed banking is a highly restrictive environ. You want something installed on your PC? No. There's no debate, no asking again, no whining; it's simply not done. Not when I was there anyway. Hell, they even removed Mine Sweeper and Solitaire. Every PC was identical (at a given hierarchical level).
So I always find these discussions hilarious, because someone invariably mentions having wanted custom mouse drivers or something equally ridiculous installed on the company's machine they work on and how it's just so suppressive and thoughtless and stupid they wouldn't.
As far as that last paragraph, there was a breach by an armed team when I worked at the bank, so I give not one shit or holler if there's an incidental false alarm or two.
If the clients you have now asked that you secure your desktops/phone, would you? It's a choice. He obviously would. You do not have to. Neither choice is wrong.
"So just to be sure I understand this correctly, ... almost always perpetrated by top management?
;)
No, apparently you do not understand it correctly. The feds placed the restrictions and he's ensuring some dip-shit doesn't get the company shut down and everyone lose their jobs. Nor are these breaches of security "almost always" perpetrated by top management.
Really? What happens if a plumber, say in Chicago, works on your system and finds that there's been jury-rigged crap attached and it doesn't meet code?
Hint: You get a visit from city gov and are told that you *will indeed* bring your house plumbing up to code.
Obviously, you cannot differentiate between "enemy" and "employer". Were you at the occupation?
"No they shouldn't."
And you shouldn't bitch to IT. For one, they can ignore you. You also shouldn't sneak shit into the system. You can get canned. You instead make your case - along with diagrams, charts and dollar figures - and present it to upper management. Those who can direct the IT department. If you make your case, you win. If you don't make your case, it's not your company.
Ten people get their own computers - let's call it $40K.
"The funds should go to..."
One cheap hiring for one year. Then that person gets terminated as the budget for them disappears (no new equipment savings).
Not very well thought through and kinda shoots that positive PR in the ass.
Now, Sparky, if anyone in your IT happens to read this article and your comment, Anonymous though it may be, he can check for recent requests for wacom mouse driver installation and rejection, then check if they'd been snuck in.
Appropriate response: You're looking for another place to infect.
"so i don't get RSI"
Bullshit.
"if your productivity is high, they're going to think all is well. Let your productivity slide and when they ask why, ..."
If you need to do that, then you don't friggin' *need* those cool tools, do you? You're simply espousing extortion. Hopefully, management will realize this and take truly appropriate measures.
"Sadly I've never been in the position to be able to hand out money..."
Then you have no skin in the game and your self-anointed grace at living up to not giving a man a fish because you feel education is more important is just posturing.
Due to the condescension, I'd have to say pompous posturing.
Your city must be corruptive. Down here, the local RC's are very straight, but pleasantly open and accepting. I wouldn't party with them or even sit an evening's discourse, but I certainly wouldn't disparage them as a group.
And of course, we all know those who post here aren't hypocritical with any of their own views. You and myself in particular.
Offspring based income bracket?
Uhh... Fuck you, you cesspool of beliefs.
It never gets better utilized than local. A local church or community center or health service. Direct to the service you like best, even.
You don't need a middle-man.
"I'd let the power and resources of the FBI determine who to arrest."
... who hacked a useless website."
... they haven't found anybody to put in jail." express two opposing views.
And they've found no one to arrest. Of course, being that they aren't arresting any top bankers, etc, now it's a conspiracy. "But asking ME who I would go after sounds like a Troll."
Well, no. Since you're AC, you could be anyone.
"Interesting how nobody in the banking community who caused
But, let's play. You see, you asked (obliquely) why the feds weren't pursuing people in the banking community. You left if very vague so as to infer collusion. You were simply then asked to provide names and crimes so the process could begin.
You had none, so to deflect that little truth, you yelled Troll.
Interest thing is, you're the Troll.
I'll provide some proof, instead of simply hollering.
"I'd let the... FBI determine who to arrest." and "... asking the FBI why,
Either you have the confidence in the feds to determine who to arrest or you don't. You stated you did, but everything you've written says you don't. This allows you presumed moral authority on either side of the issue.
Iow - Troll.
The tech is not infallible. They appeared unarmed would be more accurate.
"That word just doesn't fit."
Yeah, it does. You even agree.
"It's subjectively judged by the receiver from the speaker/writer."
The receiver of the UI perceives it as condescending. Therefore, it's condescending. In this case, condescension from the UI designer.
"But non language based aspects of UIs?"
UI are communication. That's all that's required for condescension, communication. Making all my controls look like Fischer Price toy buttons is condescension.
For instance.
They can ladle in, layer on and apply all the eye-candy they want - just let me turn it off. That way, when you close a window in 7, you can delight into it's apparently falling back to the ground (sans shatter, one would think they'd remember the finale) and I can have mine simply disappear.
"... but the basic concept of using an animation to reflect a transition of display from one state to another is sound."
Only if the transition is lengthy. On the order of a number of seconds lengthy, not 1/4-1/2 second.
If the developer feels the absolute *need* to farm out some sort of "Hey, I'm reacting to the key-press!", a simple click would suffice, not an animation of a fake page turning.
If, in turn, the developer simply gets his rocks off by making little gifs to use, fine. Include them and allow me to turn off the annoying little bastards - and make that easy to find.
"You didn't immediately understand the new UI,"
There's a presumption on your part and a big one.
"A lot of the annoyances" sounds like he found those things annoying (window growth, window fall-back, semi-transparency...) and removed the annoyance.
I disconnected most of the new crap from Win7 as well. Not because I don't understand it, there's not that much to "understand" - I just don't like it. Simple as that.
This is sociology we're talking about. No scientific proofs available. Only bias confirmations.
The only evidence available from this experiment is that indeed, animals will help each other. The motivations remain unknown.
Any time you try to guess as to "why" an animal did something, it's not science.
1960? Please cite. A stray moron does not constitute an "active social debate". IoW: that's bullshit.
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But, nice try.