I've had much more success with open office when using thier format. The problems I've seen arise from opening docs that others have created/edited in Word, then I do the same in OO and send them back. Things get out of whack quickly.
I believe the problem is in the proprietary file format. The format should be open.
Now, I'm no Microsoft fanboy, but I am seriously impressed with Word. It never crashes on me, features always work as expected with other features and the interface does rock. I had no idea how complex the program was, and I am even more awed.
This will be one of the sarcastic answers abounding to your post. I've been using GUI based word processors for around 20 years. I am seriously unimpressed with word. I agree with you that it takes an incredible testing/debugging effort to release such a piece of software. However, I wonder how much of this effort they have brought on themselves? I wonder if focusing on quality and sound design would have resulted in a better product than focusing on squashing competition by adding every conceivable feature to a word processor? I wonder if focusing on open standards rather than a constanty changing proprietary format would have resulted in a more stable product? Microsoft have brought these problems upon themselves, and I, for one, am enjoying watching them struggle under the weight of their bloat-ware.
Yup. At first my reaction was: what, they have something against the GPL?? But after about 10 seconds of thinking about it, duh, its their money; if people don't want to release code under those condidtions, don't compete in the contest. Hell, they're already doing a good thing by requiring the projects be open in the first place.
These questions are answered on their website announcing the prize. (short answer: yes)
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Uh, where was the glass carp used successfully? Up 'round these parts, we're lookin' out for them carp. Yer supposed to kill 'em & take 'em straight to the DNR if you catch one. Here being Minnesota - they're heading upstream in the Mississippi.
The interesting point of your post is that the current administration came shockingly close to using this kind of analysis at one point. It was in whatever Rumsfeld memo was leaked that said (I paraphrase): "Are we killing/incarcerating terrorists faster than we're creating them?" The Bush/Cheney campaign is saying that we are, that we're winning the war on terrorism. But there has not been, as far as I can tell, any publicized method of actually calculating this. It would be interesting to see if we can get the administration / DOD / State Dept to give us metrics in order to determine this. The only sources we have so far are in the form of editorials and guesstimates; the new york times had a piece this week postulating that the opposite is happening; that we've taken out known leaders in al queda, but more volunteers / low-level members are stepping up & filling the void. But, really, who can say? How do we know?
Would not boston be protected from a wave originating in the canary islands by cape cod? Maybe its time for bostonians to fund a project to set this mother off & solve their inferiority complex to new yorkers.
Wasn't sure whether to mod parent as funny or flamebait, so am responding instead.
I have an BS in management; during my undergrad days I took a couple microcomputer classes, because I saw what my father was doing with computers to run his business better. I fell into a tech job through the back door & have been doing it for 12 years now. One thing I've learned is I have no interest in running a company or being a manager (other than doing my own one-man-show thing).
That first company that gave me employment & tech training had a policy that if you wanted post-graduate education, it couldn't be in the same field as your bachelors degree. At the time I thought it was stupid, as I wanted nothing to do with a masters in technology, but now see the value; particularly if someone's career path is like yours: moving from tech to business.
The difficult part will be in determining where to focus your energy. In my experience, managers with MBAs - but with little experience in the field - are idiots. My last manager (before returning to independant consulting) was one of these. He'd been through a reasonably well-respected graduate program, had studied all the latest methodologies & thought he was hot shit. The problem was he had no experience managing a largely self-motivated team & had no real-world experience with making methodology theory work with the reality of a start-up business & pretty bright/independant development team. Most masters curriculums don't address such issues. Theory & case studies in books only go a small way. Try to find a program that has a bunch of part time professors that have 'been there, done that'. I don't know how many schools employ part-time professors for post-graduate programs, but if you can find some they'll help you the most in terms of applying the latest management theory to the real world. Book theory & years in academia are no substitute for real experience.
I disagree. Why can I go to google and search the entire web for something and get an answer in less than 1 sec, and I can't do that on my computer or lan?
A fine question. Which makes me wonder: Is google's next killer app a new filesystem? As the search kings, and rumored Linux users, might they be about to enter the hard drive search / filesystem market? Various pundits speculate that gmail is their first foray into searching beyond the web; surely, at some point, their technology will reach our hard drives. Will it be via a stand-alone tool, or a whole filesystem?
Closed source is even worse in this respect, though, but at least we know who wrote it, right?
Well, I think that's yet another illusion. Think disgruntled employees being paid by Bad Guys to insert a bit of code.... You may trust the company that made your software, but how can you possibly trust every one of their employees? And once it's in, since it's trusted it could be there for years.
Exactly. The author also helpfully ignores the backgrounds - often unknown by the enduser - of the developers of closed source software. I've been in this industry for 12 years and have worked in one place (out of 7) that did not have a foreign national on the team. Ethnicities have included China, Vietnam, Russia, India, Pakistan and Syria.
The only point the author made that I could agree with would be that all software used for the military/intelligence communities should be thoroughly tested & certified to a high standard of security. I doubt there are many that would disagree with this statement. The problem is the author is hiding this valid argument beneath a layer of FUD intended solely to harm Linux & support the proprietary development model his company has chosen. He uses fear & stereotypes to paint the opposition without explaining what his company is doing that will solve the problem in a way that open source cannot.
When one is ranting in a desperate plea to defend one's own methodology & existence, it is often helpful to ignore facts that do not support one's case.
Well, knowing what I know about SCO (only what I read here and on groklaw), I'm willing to believe that there is substantial similarity. However, I'd bet dollars to donuts that the code came from Linux (or more properly, IBM, perfectly within its rights) into SCO, and not the other way 'round.
Your hypothesis is certainly one I wouldn't dismiss immediately, but do you know in what kind of timeframe the SVR4.2 release was made? i.e. Who is the cart and who is the horse, with respect to Linux & SCO.
Can't disagree. Thought I wasn't much of a bluegrass fan, until going to Telluride last year. Holy cow, what a good time, with a plethora of stellar musicians. Of course, the ones I liked best were the least bluegrassy...
Waifs, Sam Bush, Yonder Mountain String Band, Leftover Salmon, & more.
Yeah, but he's not necessarily talking about the UI. His primary examples are a scrabble game that blasts music while he's playing and a chess game that takes a 'computer expert' to install. His issue is that all the fancy extras are in the way. He's not proposing that they be eliminated, but that the average joe who's not going to use them 90% of the time doesn't have to fight past them.
For example, my digital camera has all sorts of options for saving in different file types, different visual effects, etc. But if I hand it to someone - asking them to take a picture of me - they just point it at me & press the button. They don't have to struggle through the rather clumsy menuing system in order to do that. But if I want to learn all about that stuff its available to me. Thats the difference.
Certainly a valid argument. However, according to the local rags around here (Minneapolis/St Paul, MN), we're cutting police levels to those of the 1960's (with about 3x the population). While I certainly would've preferred a cop had not been on the street when I got my last speeding ticket, it sure would've been nice to have one around when a neighbor was held up at gunpoint a month or so ago.
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used to??? Is xanadu no longer there? I hope at least the house on the rock is alive and well to keep that good ole dells overpriced kitsch going.
I've had much more success with open office when using thier format. The problems I've seen arise from opening docs that others have created/edited in Word, then I do the same in OO and send them back. Things get out of whack quickly. I believe the problem is in the proprietary file format. The format should be open.
Worry not! The trolling mods are being counteracted. A couple more 'underrated' mods and you'll have the coveted "Score 5: Troll"!
Of course, your post would be much more relevant if they were actually pumping heat into the lake.
Which they are not.
Yup. At first my reaction was: what, they have something against the GPL?? But after about 10 seconds of thinking about it, duh, its their money; if people don't want to release code under those condidtions, don't compete in the contest. Hell, they're already doing a good thing by requiring the projects be open in the first place.
a better answer for you, from the rules. An OSI compatible license is required, "without 'reciprocal' or 'copyleft' requirements". (emphasis mine)
interesting
These questions are answered on their website announcing the prize. (short answer: yes)
Uh, where was the glass carp used successfully? Up 'round these parts, we're lookin' out for them carp. Yer supposed to kill 'em & take 'em straight to the DNR if you catch one. Here being Minnesota - they're heading upstream in the Mississippi.
The interesting point of your post is that the current administration came shockingly close to using this kind of analysis at one point. It was in whatever Rumsfeld memo was leaked that said (I paraphrase): "Are we killing/incarcerating terrorists faster than we're creating them?" The Bush/Cheney campaign is saying that we are, that we're winning the war on terrorism. But there has not been, as far as I can tell, any publicized method of actually calculating this. It would be interesting to see if we can get the administration / DOD / State Dept to give us metrics in order to determine this. The only sources we have so far are in the form of editorials and guesstimates; the new york times had a piece this week postulating that the opposite is happening; that we've taken out known leaders in al queda, but more volunteers / low-level members are stepping up & filling the void. But, really, who can say? How do we know?
Exactly. Next we need a way to wipe out everything west of the Sierra Nevada & we're good to go.
Would not boston be protected from a wave originating in the canary islands by cape cod? Maybe its time for bostonians to fund a project to set this mother off & solve their inferiority complex to new yorkers.
Wasn't sure whether to mod parent as funny or flamebait, so am responding instead.
I have an BS in management; during my undergrad days I took a couple microcomputer classes, because I saw what my father was doing with computers to run his business better. I fell into a tech job through the back door & have been doing it for 12 years now. One thing I've learned is I have no interest in running a company or being a manager (other than doing my own one-man-show thing).
That first company that gave me employment & tech training had a policy that if you wanted post-graduate education, it couldn't be in the same field as your bachelors degree. At the time I thought it was stupid, as I wanted nothing to do with a masters in technology, but now see the value; particularly if someone's career path is like yours: moving from tech to business.
The difficult part will be in determining where to focus your energy. In my experience, managers with MBAs - but with little experience in the field - are idiots. My last manager (before returning to independant consulting) was one of these. He'd been through a reasonably well-respected graduate program, had studied all the latest methodologies & thought he was hot shit. The problem was he had no experience managing a largely self-motivated team & had no real-world experience with making methodology theory work with the reality of a start-up business & pretty bright/independant development team. Most masters curriculums don't address such issues. Theory & case studies in books only go a small way. Try to find a program that has a bunch of part time professors that have 'been there, done that'. I don't know how many schools employ part-time professors for post-graduate programs, but if you can find some they'll help you the most in terms of applying the latest management theory to the real world. Book theory & years in academia are no substitute for real experience.
Exactly. The author also helpfully ignores the backgrounds - often unknown by the enduser - of the developers of closed source software. I've been in this industry for 12 years and have worked in one place (out of 7) that did not have a foreign national on the team. Ethnicities have included China, Vietnam, Russia, India, Pakistan and Syria.
The only point the author made that I could agree with would be that all software used for the military/intelligence communities should be thoroughly tested & certified to a high standard of security. I doubt there are many that would disagree with this statement. The problem is the author is hiding this valid argument beneath a layer of FUD intended solely to harm Linux & support the proprietary development model his company has chosen. He uses fear & stereotypes to paint the opposition without explaining what his company is doing that will solve the problem in a way that open source cannot.
When one is ranting in a desperate plea to defend one's own methodology & existence, it is often helpful to ignore facts that do not support one's case.
AT&T or BSD? What evil lurks in that sealed agreement?
Your hypothesis is certainly one I wouldn't dismiss immediately, but do you know in what kind of timeframe the SVR4.2 release was made? i.e. Who is the cart and who is the horse, with respect to Linux & SCO.
Can't disagree. Thought I wasn't much of a bluegrass fan, until going to Telluride last year. Holy cow, what a good time, with a plethora of stellar musicians. Of course, the ones I liked best were the least bluegrassy... Waifs, Sam Bush, Yonder Mountain String Band, Leftover Salmon, & more.
Give a listen to Live at the Isle of Wight, 1970 and you'll have a top 1, forget the rest of 'em.
Yeah, at least it wasn't the place-hands-on-cheeks-and-bend-over dept. What the hell is he gonna do with that jet?
Yeah, but he's not necessarily talking about the UI. His primary examples are a scrabble game that blasts music while he's playing and a chess game that takes a 'computer expert' to install. His issue is that all the fancy extras are in the way. He's not proposing that they be eliminated, but that the average joe who's not going to use them 90% of the time doesn't have to fight past them.
For example, my digital camera has all sorts of options for saving in different file types, different visual effects, etc. But if I hand it to someone - asking them to take a picture of me - they just point it at me & press the button. They don't have to struggle through the rather clumsy menuing system in order to do that. But if I want to learn all about that stuff its available to me. Thats the difference.
I'm willing to concede the metric argument, if they stop calling soccer 'football.'
Certainly a valid argument. However, according to the local rags around here (Minneapolis/St Paul, MN), we're cutting police levels to those of the 1960's (with about 3x the population). While I certainly would've preferred a cop had not been on the street when I got my last speeding ticket, it sure would've been nice to have one around when a neighbor was held up at gunpoint a month or so ago.