I would suspect that a good deal of driver development is already outsourced. This could definitely be economically viable for the manufacturer, but less than great for the graphics development industry (well, then again, they'll still have the defense and embedded industries). How good will it be for the consumer? Will there still be a reference driver?
I would say corporate users (particularly developers on Windows boxes) are much more likely to fuck their machines up than home users. There is only so much lockdown you can impose from above, and there are always ways around it.
I would be interested to know what passes for a required reboot.
Quite often it was an issue of restarting a service that "required" a reboot.
Then there are the times when the "required" reboot can be achieved by (heaven forfend) logging off and logging on again.
Windows 2000 was definitely better at cutting out spurious reboots than XP. Someone made a point about the user bases for the OSs being different... I would point out that a fair number of large corporations use XP Pro on the desktop, primarily because it is even more manageable than Win2K Pro under AD, which kind of sinks the idea that XP was designed as a home user's OS.
What really mystifies me is the low percentage of Windows NT4 sessions that require reboots... WTF. I worked with that OS for years and that just doesn't seem right to me.
Remember when you used to make fun of people with cell phones? When you actually had to plan social events and be on time? When you would arrange meeting places in case of seperation? Guess that was too difficult...
Not sure how helpful this will be in huge environments, I live in the small to midsize market, but here are some tools that I have found useful in the past: Not exactly a monitoring tool, but definitely the most versatile all around auditor I have ever found: Nessus. Ettercap is a good sniffer. The MRTG tool has been a godsend when I have had managed devices to deal with, and I have heard very good things about the RRD tool and Cacti. Tripwire is freely available for Linux and the BSDs, though the Win32 version has not been open-sourced. One tool I have not been able to find in F/OSS is a Windows event log monitor (though believe me I'm still looking).
Quoth the AC Parent: "...if they can't even release their own software on time, and when they do release it, it doesn't even have all the bugs worked out..."
Obviously you are a veteran of the software development industry. Tell about all those timely, bug free launches of a full commercial OS (not just a kernel) that you were involved in.
#the reply above contains high levels of sarcasm #if you are unsure how to handle this, use caution
Named Pipes? I can see how that would give you a serious headache.
Which RC2 of SP2 are you running? I have RC2 and have no difficulty connecting to SQL2K over TCP/IP, never had to set an exception for traffic over 1433.
Assuming you are running XP clients on an Active Directory you should be able to define firewall exceptions in Group Policy. Caveat: I have noticed my box (post SP2RC2 installation) doesn't grab a DHCP address until I force a release and renew after logging in. I am assuming this will be corrected in the final release - otherwise it would make it somewhat difficult to apply policy settings over the network.
We're moving the office today. I expect to not leave tonight. I expect to not see any overtime for working Friday and Saturday of a long weekend. One of our executives just unleashed mydoom on their contact list. I expect to have to get us delisted from a few XBLs come Tuesday. I have been working here a year, gone through 2 managers. No review.
Ah, well. Someone will have a cold beer for me somewhere. Even better, someone will have a cold beer and good company waiting for me somewhere...
There goes free time for all IT Workers. High Speed VPN access from anywhere, oh joy. Now what am I going to do when I want to sleep off my hangover on the commuter train?
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Quoth the AC: "The insults you see aren't from FOSS advocates they are from jackass Trolls who have nothing to do with OSS."
I'll buy that. Most real live IT workers (sysadmin and dev) that I know and work with are very pragmatic about their open source. I think the Perl folk sum it up quite nicely: 'There's more than one way to do it.'
"... none of them are posts from known Linux users saying that standard BSD sucks and Linux is [sic] bettter."
Well, I wouldn't go that far, look back at the comparison post. And if there aren't yet there will be soon.
But, yes, these are likely not real FOSS advocates, just random jackasses.
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I don't get it either.
It truly boggles my mind. What's the problem? Does it upset the trolls so that another free unix-like operating system exists? Deal with it. You don't have to use it.
Whatever. My real beef (as stated in my post somewhere below) is that we get the same tired cut and paste trolls, which waste my time with screens full of crap when I want to peruse the comments.
I am curious though... how many of the trolls have actually worked with a *BSD system? More to the point have any of these trolls ever actually been in a network/systems admin position (and sorry, helpdesk doesn't qualify as network admin -- I've been both and it is a big difference)?
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Documentation is a good thing. Good documentation is considerably better.
It's good to see that the market is there for decent, affordable reference works for more than just Linux and Windows (though the latter is debatable... and that's not trolling, I have been a Windows admin for years and the thing that keeps me running Linux and *BSD baxes in my environments is that, as a rule, the documentation is a hell of a lot more affordable and accessible and generally better).
It is a shame that any BSD story on slashdot has to be inundated with the same tired "BSD is dead" trolls. Not that I am surprised to see trolling here, but get some creativity FFS (and that doesn't mean Fast Filesystem in this context). You aren't even worth the mod points to flag you for what you really are, you sad, friendless twits.
One, I am Canadian and quite aware of the CBC. As a matter of fact I am sitting about five minutes walk from their downtown Toronto broadacasting centre.
Two, I am fully aware of the meaning of the word universal -- who is the one being literal minded here?
Three, if you in fact read my post, you would realise I was off topic and raising a question about the moderation of a number of posts.
Four, I at least post as myself and take my beats in public while you hide out as an AC.
Not to be redundant, but yet another post that dares to point out that North America is not, in fact the centre of the Universe gets posted as flamebait? Parent is at worst, Redundant, at best Funny... and also completely correct.
So what makes the parent flamebait? That it makes you realise you are not at the centre of the universe? That USA/Canada are not the only nations with internet access on the planet?
...is there a link out there to any info about the broadband service? I am seriously interested. Can I get the earth station gear in PCMCIA format? If so, will there be an OSX/Linux/*BSD/Solaris driver? If this service is accessible while mobile, I am getting rid of my voice line and DSL link. At $60/month for wireless broadband, that's a hell of a lot cheaper than what telus mobility was offering last time I checked.
Admittedly it would be latent as hell... but I can live with that...
My point was not so much that they were losing money, but that they must have some vision of how to make the market profitable.
What, are you suggesting they did it for the prestige? They are betting that this product will be profitable, I'm just curious how they are going to (attempt to) make it happen.
No one with $60B (or even $1000) in the bank goes into a market just to become the #2 player and operate at a loss for years. Except of course if you started a "built to flip" dotcom, and bailed with all the VC money leaving dozens of unemployed people in your wake.
I would guess the PS/2 gets more linux sales, what with the optional hard disk and linux kit they offer... don't know that it has ever been on the market in the Americas though.
But now you know why the PS/2 has those 2 forward mounted USB ports, eh?
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Agreed, this is something of a must have feature these days IMO.
The convenience of hibernate is hard to live without.
I would suspect that a good deal of driver development is already outsourced.
This could definitely be economically viable for the manufacturer, but less than great for the graphics development industry (well, then again, they'll still have the defense and embedded industries).
How good will it be for the consumer? Will there still be a reference driver?
I would say corporate users (particularly developers on Windows boxes) are much more likely to fuck their machines up than home users.
There is only so much lockdown you can impose from above, and there are always ways around it.
"Windows works great, for people who know how to use them. (Same can be said for Linux, Mac, etc)."
You've hit the nail right on the head, and done it without any OS-based zealotry.
I would be interested to know what passes for a required reboot.
Quite often it was an issue of restarting a service that "required" a reboot.
Then there are the times when the "required" reboot can be achieved by (heaven forfend) logging off and logging on again.
Windows 2000 was definitely better at cutting out spurious reboots than XP. Someone made a point about the user bases for the OSs being different... I would point out that a fair number of large corporations use XP Pro on the desktop, primarily because it is even more manageable than Win2K Pro under AD, which kind of sinks the idea that XP was designed as a home user's OS.
What really mystifies me is the low percentage of Windows NT4 sessions that require reboots... WTF.
I worked with that OS for years and that just doesn't seem right to me.
Remember when you used to make fun of people with cell phones? When you actually had to plan social events and be on time? When you would arrange meeting places in case of seperation?
Guess that was too difficult...
Not sure how helpful this will be in huge environments, I live in the small to midsize market, but here are some tools that I have found useful in the past:
Not exactly a monitoring tool, but definitely the most versatile all around auditor I have ever found: Nessus.
Ettercap is a good sniffer.
The MRTG tool has been a godsend when I have had managed devices to deal with, and I have heard very good things about the RRD tool and Cacti.
Tripwire is freely available for Linux and the BSDs, though the Win32 version has not been open-sourced.
One tool I have not been able to find in F/OSS is a Windows event log monitor (though believe me I'm still looking).
Quoth the AC Parent: "...if they can't even release their own software on time, and when they do release it, it doesn't even have all the bugs worked out..."
Obviously you are a veteran of the software development industry. Tell about all those timely, bug free launches of a full commercial OS (not just a kernel) that you were involved in.
#the reply above contains high levels of sarcasm
#if you are unsure how to handle this, use caution
Named Pipes? I can see how that would give you a serious headache.
Which RC2 of SP2 are you running? I have RC2 and have no difficulty connecting to SQL2K over TCP/IP, never had to set an exception for traffic over 1433.
Assuming you are running XP clients on an Active Directory you should be able to define firewall exceptions in Group Policy.
Caveat: I have noticed my box (post SP2RC2 installation) doesn't grab a DHCP address until I force a release and renew after logging in. I am assuming this will be corrected in the final release - otherwise it would make it somewhat difficult to apply policy settings over the network.
Yeah.
We're moving the office today. I expect to not leave tonight.
I expect to not see any overtime for working Friday and Saturday of a long weekend.
One of our executives just unleashed mydoom on their contact list.
I expect to have to get us delisted from a few XBLs come Tuesday.
I have been working here a year, gone through 2 managers. No review.
Ah, well. Someone will have a cold beer for me somewhere. Even better, someone will have a cold beer and good company waiting for me somewhere...
Happy Sysadmin Appreciation Day.
My god... you're right.
The horror, the horror...
Agreed, it is a sad state of affairs.
But are you really surprised?
If most technical managers had actually worked in the roles they oversee, the BOfH would not be the industry/cult favourite that it is.
Reminds me of the colour scheme for Jon Pertwee era Daleks on Dr. Who.
I kinda like it.
Then again I work *in* a server and anything with a different colour than the rack I am staring at looks good...
There goes free time for all IT Workers.
High Speed VPN access from anywhere, oh joy.
Now what am I going to do when I want to sleep off my hangover on the commuter train?
Quoth the AC:
"The insults you see aren't from FOSS advocates they are from jackass Trolls who have nothing to do with OSS."
I'll buy that. Most real live IT workers (sysadmin and dev) that I know and work with are very pragmatic about their open source. I think the Perl folk sum it up quite nicely: 'There's more than one way to do it.'
"... none of them are posts from known Linux users saying that standard BSD sucks and Linux is [sic] bettter."
Well, I wouldn't go that far, look back at the comparison post. And if there aren't yet there will be soon.
But, yes, these are likely not real FOSS advocates, just random jackasses.
I don't get it either.
It truly boggles my mind. What's the problem? Does it upset the trolls so that another free unix-like operating system exists? Deal with it. You don't have to use it.
Whatever. My real beef (as stated in my post somewhere below) is that we get the same tired cut and paste trolls, which waste my time with screens full of crap when I want to peruse the comments.
I am curious though... how many of the trolls have actually worked with a *BSD system? More to the point have any of these trolls ever actually been in a network/systems admin position (and sorry, helpdesk doesn't qualify as network admin -- I've been both and it is a big difference)?
Documentation is a good thing.
Good documentation is considerably better.
It's good to see that the market is there for decent, affordable reference works for more than just Linux and Windows (though the latter is debatable... and that's not trolling, I have been a Windows admin for years and the thing that keeps me running Linux and *BSD baxes in my environments is that, as a rule, the documentation is a hell of a lot more affordable and accessible and generally better).
It is a shame that any BSD story on slashdot has to be inundated with the same tired "BSD is dead" trolls. Not that I am surprised to see trolling here, but get some creativity FFS (and that doesn't mean Fast Filesystem in this context).
You aren't even worth the mod points to flag you for what you really are, you sad, friendless twits.
One, I am Canadian and quite aware of the CBC. As a matter of fact I am sitting about five minutes walk from their downtown Toronto broadacasting centre.
Two, I am fully aware of the meaning of the word universal -- who is the one being literal minded here?
Three, if you in fact read my post, you would realise I was off topic and raising a question about the moderation of a number of posts.
Four, I at least post as myself and take my beats in public while you hide out as an AC.
The price is a lot nicer than what Bell Canada was offering a year or so ago.
I was hoping for a satphone style big clunky antenna to attach to the side of my LCD actually.
Guess that's not an option. Damn.
Not to be redundant, but yet another post that dares to point out that North America is not, in fact the centre of the Universe gets posted as flamebait?
Parent is at worst, Redundant, at best Funny... and also completely correct.
So what makes the parent flamebait? That it makes you realise you are not at the centre of the universe? That USA/Canada are not the only nations with internet access on the planet?
You want flamebait? *This* is flamebait...
...is there a link out there to any info about the broadband service?
I am seriously interested.
Can I get the earth station gear in PCMCIA format?
If so, will there be an OSX/Linux/*BSD/Solaris driver?
If this service is accessible while mobile, I am getting rid of my voice line and DSL link.
At $60/month for wireless broadband, that's a hell of a lot cheaper than what telus mobility was offering last time I checked.
Admittedly it would be latent as hell... but I can live with that...
My point was not so much that they were losing money, but that they must have some vision of how to make the market profitable.
What, are you suggesting they did it for the prestige? They are betting that this product will be profitable, I'm just curious how they are going to (attempt to) make it happen.
No one with $60B (or even $1000) in the bank goes into a market just to become the #2 player and operate at a loss for years.
Except of course if you started a "built to flip" dotcom, and bailed with all the VC money leaving dozens of unemployed people in your wake.
I would guess the PS/2 gets more linux sales, what with the optional hard disk and linux kit they offer... don't know that it has ever been on the market in the Americas though.
But now you know why the PS/2 has those 2 forward mounted USB ports, eh?