This may or may not apply, but when I interview I have a couple of questions I ask which have different solutions. When the candidate gives one, I disagree, sometimes energetically. I don't care what answer they give, I want to know if they can think round what is probably a fairly simple issue, under a reasonable amount of presure.
I then want to know how they deal with some prick arguing with them that their chosen solution isn't very good.
Personality issues are pretty fucking key in most roles and companies...
I do tell candidates both before and after that if I argue with them they should just take it as part of the process, to try and calm them.
In general, try to think why you are being asked a question, and maybe why the interviewer is disagreeing with you in a demonstrably correct answer. Of course that applies in life as well as job interviews.
It wasn't meant to be protective, it was meant to try to keep the discussion general. More 'in this situation...', rather than 'how do i write hello world in pascal'.
You hit the nail on the head. Thank you. Posting the idea here would help this time, but what about next time? Someone else has an idea, finds this thread, and just gets to read an argument about somebody else's crappy idea.
If I had mod-points (and could mod for an article i submitted - no idea if you can), I'd mod you up.
It's kinda funny, there are two opposing views. One that it will always take a year to do a project. Then another that says that after that year it will take a month to scrap the elegant design and hack something together that will do enough to actually be fit for purpose.
No NDA required. I just want the app, and am willing to put in the effort on the non-coding sides.
I'm not necesarily convinced that there is a lot of money to be made (or any), but if I want it, then someone else may do too.
I can actually think of an industry that must have similar apps, but I would imagine that each company has a closed implementation of said. This is partly a guess, and partly experience (I worked on the periphery of a similar industry once).
I wouldn't much mind if someone stole this idea - there is an app I want, I am willing to hire a coder, fuck it, I'd be happy to pay for the app. I am interested in how to get something like this off the ground. But thanks for playing.
I did read it, and thank you. My hesitation at picking up more in depth coding skills is more related to the fact that I work a fifty hour week for a large bank. The last thing I want to do when I get home is... well, anything really. I want to spend my weekend eating, drinking, painting taking photo's and spending time with family and friends.
The other parts of a project (project management, massaging ego's, getting things tested and documented), I am happy to do, as they come very easily to me, they are what I have a deal of experience doing, and parts of them I actually enjoy - so it really isn't adding so much to my workload.
Those two paragraphs are partially inconsistent, I know.
Also - I am interested in how the process of doing this works. My idea may be shit, quite likely is, but I'm interested in how to get traction. I'm not as interested in people here critiquing the idea, as I am in people offering advice, thoughts, experience on how something like this would work.
I do think the submission was probably accepted because it was very general though, rather than 'Plz code my widgtz for me, LOL.'
Because I have enough experience of working with contractors, out sourced work and PHDs to know that finding someone who actually is good at what they do is quite low.
How do i find someone good on rent a coder? I guess if i knew that I'd already be a millionaire. Oh well.
Except the Graniad isn't printed on a Sunday (if you want to be exact, as you are a tester I'd guess, yes the paper is printed on a Sunday, but...). Obviously they want the Observer.
Right Click => Show File
or
Export => set what type of file (original, current, jpeg, tiff, png), set options for file size et cetera, then choose where (or you could export as a web page - it'll create some HTML, thumbnails et cetera - usually only useful if you are dumping out a lot of pics and want a quick n dirty page for them, or you could export as a quicktime movie, set time for each image, and various other images).
Yeah yeah, I've been trolled, i'm an apple fanboi and all that.
All those formats, but don't you have to convert them to some strange native format, to actually read them? Strange, this is your first, and only, post by the looks of things. Not saying you are a Hanlin employee or anything, but...
Anyway, I have a Sony PRS500. I love it, if the Kindle were available over here Id probably prefer that though, so I'm no actual use as to the decision. I think that which ever you get you'll probably be very happy with it.
Cool, an adware link. Maybe you could try pdfforge instead?
pdf forge appears to be free, and windows only. But then I guess the rest of us get pdf output with our OS's... (I've no idea if there is anything wrong with pdf forge, the ad laden link from the parent makes me suspicious though)
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This may or may not apply, but when I interview I have a couple of questions I ask which have different solutions. When the candidate gives one, I disagree, sometimes energetically. I don't care what answer they give, I want to know if they can think round what is probably a fairly simple issue, under a reasonable amount of presure.
I then want to know how they deal with some prick arguing with them that their chosen solution isn't very good.
Personality issues are pretty fucking key in most roles and companies...
I do tell candidates both before and after that if I argue with them they should just take it as part of the process, to try and calm them.
In general, try to think why you are being asked a question, and maybe why the interviewer is disagreeing with you in a demonstrably correct answer. Of course that applies in life as well as job interviews.
Oh yah? Let's see them burn the copy I have memorized!
That shouldn't be too hard to cover, as Heinrich Heine said: "Dort, wo man Bücher verbrennt, verbrennt man am Ende auch Menschen."
Except if you could read you'd see he isn't quite AC.
It wasn't meant to be protective, it was meant to try to keep the discussion general. More 'in this situation...', rather than 'how do i write hello world in pascal'.
You hit the nail on the head. Thank you. Posting the idea here would help this time, but what about next time? Someone else has an idea, finds this thread, and just gets to read an argument about somebody else's crappy idea.
If I had mod-points (and could mod for an article i submitted - no idea if you can), I'd mod you up.
It's kinda funny, there are two opposing views. One that it will always take a year to do a project. Then another that says that after that year it will take a month to scrap the elegant design and hack something together that will do enough to actually be fit for purpose.
No NDA required. I just want the app, and am willing to put in the effort on the non-coding sides.
I'm not necesarily convinced that there is a lot of money to be made (or any), but if I want it, then someone else may do too.
I can actually think of an industry that must have similar apps, but I would imagine that each company has a closed implementation of said. This is partly a guess, and partly experience (I worked on the periphery of a similar industry once).
Happy to send you guys an email.
or 4. it is only useful for me, and for certain other small niches.
The amusing thing is (and this isn't taking the piss, it is actually true), at the moment my hair is pointy =)
There are no new ideas in the world huh? Wow, I never knew that, thanks for the insight.
If you send your bank details I'll have the funds in there by tomorrow. My brother, you see, is the ex-finance minister.
Looks cool, thanks.
I wouldn't much mind if someone stole this idea - there is an app I want, I am willing to hire a coder, fuck it, I'd be happy to pay for the app. I am interested in how to get something like this off the ground. But thanks for playing.
I did read it, and thank you. My hesitation at picking up more in depth coding skills is more related to the fact that I work a fifty hour week for a large bank. The last thing I want to do when I get home is... well, anything really. I want to spend my weekend eating, drinking, painting taking photo's and spending time with family and friends.
The other parts of a project (project management, massaging ego's, getting things tested and documented), I am happy to do, as they come very easily to me, they are what I have a deal of experience doing, and parts of them I actually enjoy - so it really isn't adding so much to my workload.
Those two paragraphs are partially inconsistent, I know.
Also - I am interested in how the process of doing this works. My idea may be shit, quite likely is, but I'm interested in how to get traction. I'm not as interested in people here critiquing the idea, as I am in people offering advice, thoughts, experience on how something like this would work.
I do think the submission was probably accepted because it was very general though, rather than 'Plz code my widgtz for me, LOL.'
Exactly. I'll do that, or find the funding for someone who will. I'm happy to design document and QA. and to shut the fuck up when required.
Because I have enough experience of working with contractors, out sourced work and PHDs to know that finding someone who actually is good at what they do is quite low.
How do i find someone good on rent a coder? I guess if i knew that I'd already be a millionaire. Oh well.
Probably the kick I needed, thanks =)
I'm not smart enough to do it *well*, that is kinda the point, or it would already be done.
Duh.
Except the Graniad isn't printed on a Sunday (if you want to be exact, as you are a tester I'd guess, yes the paper is printed on a Sunday, but...). Obviously they want the Observer.
Hmm, you seem to be a bit... wrong?
Right Click => Show File
or
Export => set what type of file (original, current, jpeg, tiff, png), set options for file size et cetera, then choose where (or you could export as a web page - it'll create some HTML, thumbnails et cetera - usually only useful if you are dumping out a lot of pics and want a quick n dirty page for them, or you could export as a quicktime movie, set time for each image, and various other images).
Yeah yeah, I've been trolled, i'm an apple fanboi and all that.
So I guess AIX, HP-UX and Solaris don't have large corporations backing them.
Always best to be careful what you say about who does back those three, they all seem to have blood thirsty ninja vampire lawyers to hand...
All those formats, but don't you have to convert them to some strange native format, to actually read them? Strange, this is your first, and only, post by the looks of things. Not saying you are a Hanlin employee or anything, but...
:)
Anyway, I have a Sony PRS500. I love it, if the Kindle were available over here Id probably prefer that though, so I'm no actual use as to the decision. I think that which ever you get you'll probably be very happy with it.
I'm off back to the whisky now though
"The movies are for entertainment"...
So what the fuck are the books for?
Cool, an adware link. Maybe you could try pdfforge instead?
pdf forge appears to be free, and windows only. But then I guess the rest of us get pdf output with our OS's... (I've no idea if there is anything wrong with pdf forge, the ad laden link from the parent makes me suspicious though)