I know hordes of Microsoft fans who think anything out of Redmond is awesome, no matter how crappy it is. It reminds me of "Animal Farm", where some of the animals claim that the water tastes sooo much sweeter ever since Napoleon took over the farm.
Replace "Microsoft" with "Linux," and "Remond" with "OSS."
If people would help finish Y-Windows, which will support driver module loading and unloading without even needing a restart (imagine the ease of upgrading video drivers), ATI would probably be putting out drivers more often, with better support. Right now you have to compile Radeon DRI into the 2.6.3 kernel if you have a card up to an 8500. Higher than that, you use the XFree86 DRM drivers, or the ati-drivers.
That has always been their stance. The reason is that sometime laptop manufacturers do things a little differently with their cards.
ATI's own Catalyst developers will tell you that their drivers do support Mobility Radeons, for instance--but they cannot officially support them. Too many issues, including liability issues.
ATI always tells you to go to the manufacturer if you tell the website you have a laptop. People make tiny mods that edit the INI setup file of the Catalyst drivers to allow them to install on your laptop anyway. 80% of the time, it works--but really, your laptop manufacturer IS the person you should be going to since they're the ones that soldered the damn card into your laptop and configured it for their board. But manufacturers are lazy as hell, so we mod the Catalyst drivers, and ATI knows it. Just how it is.
Why have Slashdotters gotten so damned insulting lately? "Quit your bitching!" "Is it too hard for an 3l337 63\|\700 |-|4x0r??" "No one is holding a gun to your head!"
Is it just me, or have Slashdot posters gotten generally more insulting lately? It's immature and anti-social. "You pretentious fucking idiot." Way to bolster your argument there, pal.
.NET was always targetted for developers anyway. Users won't need to know about.NET.
In Longhorn,.NET is replacing Win32 itself. The reecent betas are already running explorer.exe as managed code. So, users won't need to install the.NET framework because it will be part of Windows itself.
Right now, it's just a development framework to get used to.
By collective conscience, you mean, of course, the Slashdot community, which contains members who still actually use the phrase "M$." Everyone else in the world likes Windows (really, I've asked non-Linux people, and they like it).
Slashdot started in the 90s. The bias wasn't "restricted to very small groups of hackers." I guess you forgot that there was hooplah over IE integration in Windows 98, and Slashdot covered the antitrust trial endlessly. Slashdot has been the bastion for anti-"M$" bias since its inception. "Microsoft Violates Human Rights In China", anyone?
I'm glad Apple remains a contender and a nagging thorn in the sleep of Billy Gates' mind. The fact that Apple is still around and won't go away has to bug him on some level.
In fact, my next purchase will be an Apple laptop.
I simply made a point; an opinion of my own. If you disagree with it, reply or disregard, but don't mod it down. What makes Linux so great that it's above criticism?
For things like that, I can certainly understand having to turn to some sort of knowledge base.
I'm referring more to common things like getting basic peripherals working, or a graphics card, or setting up XFree86 to use your monitor correctly, or getting a mousewheel to work. All things that automatically work in certain other operating systems.
Does it strike anyone as a bit of a negative attribute that you have to have a massive knowledgebase to use your operating system?
Microsoft has a knowledgebase as well, but only for troubleshooting, service packs, and development. I've been to their site maybe twice.
However, I've always had to rely on poorly-written HOWTOs and other documents to spend three hours just getting a sound card or USB mouse to work under X.
Call me crazy, but needing a huge database of tutorials to actually get things up and running is not exactly something you should be shouting from the rooftops.
No, you do in fact need to reboot windows when you install Office. Perhaps there are some cases where it's not necessary, but in my experience it always is.
Grab a copy of Office 2003 or even XP.
Insert CD.
Tell it to install *everything.*
Wait a while.
When it finishes, click OK and remove CD. You are returned to the desktop.
Use Office. Everything is fine. No reboot necessary. And I happen to know for a fact since I recently installed Office on three computers. Next time, research a little before you insult some stranger you've never met. Being an antisocial, raving lunatic doesn't work in the real world.
Maybe if you're talking about Office 2000. I don't remember having to reboot for 2000. That was four years ago. I know specifically that I never had to reboot for Office XP or 2003. And you don't have to reboot when you update it through Windows Update, which is what I was pointing out.
MS is still lacking on speed to update. The RPC bug was on the streets long enough for exploits to be written BEFORE they got even the smallest patch out. The big worms came after they did get the patch out, but people weren't updating.
Wrong, they patched that thing over a month before, and even the government warned people to patch--twice.
Only a month later did Blaster come out, and all the morons who didn't patch were exposed. What do you want Microsoft to do, hold your hand and wipe your ass for you? Sometimes, users have to accept blame for their own unwillingness.
You're kidding, right? IE is close to 90% of the market share.
FireBird has beaten IE and we are just waiting for the inertia to bury the old stalwart.
How has it beaten it at all if more people use IE? When SP2 comes out this year, IE will have built-in pop-up blocking and a download manager, and then even LESS people will be bothered to try a browser that still thinks it should reimplement every widget with "XUL" for some bizarre reason.
Come on, this was a bad year, though everybody seems to pretend that nothing happened.
In the span of six months, GNU was hacked twice, and GNOME, Gentoo, and Debian were all breached. And according to Linux's dirty little secret, LinuxSecurity.com, dozens of new holes in OSS software are discovered every week.
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I know hordes of Microsoft fans who think anything out of Redmond is awesome, no matter how crappy it is. It reminds me of "Animal Farm", where some of the animals claim that the water tastes sooo much sweeter ever since Napoleon took over the farm.
Replace "Microsoft" with "Linux," and "Remond" with "OSS."
If people would help finish Y-Windows, which will support driver module loading and unloading without even needing a restart (imagine the ease of upgrading video drivers), ATI would probably be putting out drivers more often, with better support. Right now you have to compile Radeon DRI into the 2.6.3 kernel if you have a card up to an 8500. Higher than that, you use the XFree86 DRM drivers, or the ati-drivers.
That has always been their stance. The reason is that sometime laptop manufacturers do things a little differently with their cards.
ATI's own Catalyst developers will tell you that their drivers do support Mobility Radeons, for instance--but they cannot officially support them. Too many issues, including liability issues.
ATI always tells you to go to the manufacturer if you tell the website you have a laptop. People make tiny mods that edit the INI setup file of the Catalyst drivers to allow them to install on your laptop anyway. 80% of the time, it works--but really, your laptop manufacturer IS the person you should be going to since they're the ones that soldered the damn card into your laptop and configured it for their board. But manufacturers are lazy as hell, so we mod the Catalyst drivers, and ATI knows it. Just how it is.
Why have Slashdotters gotten so damned insulting lately? "Quit your bitching!" "Is it too hard for an 3l337 63\|\700 |-|4x0r??" "No one is holding a gun to your head!"
All the guy did was ask a few questions.
a resource intensive pig with a poor UI, bad cli, and missing key parts of the unix system.
Many more people say the same thing about the current Linux desktop.
Is it just me, or have Slashdot posters gotten generally more insulting lately? It's immature and anti-social. "You pretentious fucking idiot." Way to bolster your argument there, pal.
.NET was always targetted for developers anyway. Users won't need to know about .NET.
.NET is replacing Win32 itself. The reecent betas are already running explorer.exe as managed code. So, users won't need to install the .NET framework because it will be part of Windows itself.
In Longhorn,
Right now, it's just a development framework to get used to.
Slashdot bitches about Windows and its backwards-compability causing blue screens.
.NET, as they're doing now...
Then, Slashdot bitches when Microsoft breaks compability to be more secure.
Man, Slashdot's gonna have a field day when Longhorn comes out and replaces Win32 with
By collective conscience, you mean, of course, the Slashdot community, which contains members who still actually use the phrase "M$." Everyone else in the world likes Windows (really, I've asked non-Linux people, and they like it).
Slashdot started in the 90s. The bias wasn't "restricted to very small groups of hackers." I guess you forgot that there was hooplah over IE integration in Windows 98, and Slashdot covered the antitrust trial endlessly. Slashdot has been the bastion for anti-"M$" bias since its inception. "Microsoft Violates Human Rights In China", anyone?
I'm glad Apple remains a contender and a nagging thorn in the sleep of Billy Gates' mind. The fact that Apple is still around and won't go away has to bug him on some level.
In fact, my next purchase will be an Apple laptop.
Mind explaining why my post is "Flamebait?"
I simply made a point; an opinion of my own. If you disagree with it, reply or disregard, but don't mod it down. What makes Linux so great that it's above criticism?
For things like that, I can certainly understand having to turn to some sort of knowledge base.
I'm referring more to common things like getting basic peripherals working, or a graphics card, or setting up XFree86 to use your monitor correctly, or getting a mousewheel to work. All things that automatically work in certain other operating systems.
Does it strike anyone as a bit of a negative attribute that you have to have a massive knowledgebase to use your operating system?
Microsoft has a knowledgebase as well, but only for troubleshooting, service packs, and development. I've been to their site maybe twice.
However, I've always had to rely on poorly-written HOWTOs and other documents to spend three hours just getting a sound card or USB mouse to work under X.
Call me crazy, but needing a huge database of tutorials to actually get things up and running is not exactly something you should be shouting from the rooftops.
No, you do in fact need to reboot windows when you install Office. Perhaps there are some cases where it's not necessary, but in my experience it always is.
Grab a copy of Office 2003 or even XP.
Insert CD.
Tell it to install *everything.*
Wait a while.
When it finishes, click OK and remove CD. You are returned to the desktop.
Use Office. Everything is fine. No reboot necessary. And I happen to know for a fact since I recently installed Office on three computers. Next time, research a little before you insult some stranger you've never met. Being an antisocial, raving lunatic doesn't work in the real world.
No, you don't. That's a complete lie.
Maybe if you're talking about Office 2000. I don't remember having to reboot for 2000. That was four years ago. I know specifically that I never had to reboot for Office XP or 2003. And you don't have to reboot when you update it through Windows Update, which is what I was pointing out.
I run Spybot and Ad-Aware.
It picks up nothing more than cookies, which I turned off long ago.
Because people who are actually BUYING their product aren't getting sued.
Except that you don't have to reboot Windows to update Office, so who knows what you're talking about.
Oh, please. Can you actually name any of this "shackle-ware," "spyware," and "gagware?" Why are you blaming this on Windows?
Half-Life doesn't require a constant highspeed Internet connection to play single-player. Steam allows offline play.
Nobody said you had to.
I'm just pointing out that people use MP3s as an anti-RIAA movement and completely disregard the artists whose music they're pirating.
Nobody's getting "mistreated"--if bands don't like their contracts, don't sign them to begin with.
The source was already posted by another user here.
I can't believe you took the time to write all that.
MS is still lacking on speed to update. The RPC bug was on the streets long enough for exploits to be written BEFORE they got even the smallest patch out. The big worms came after they did get the patch out, but people weren't updating.
Wrong, they patched that thing over a month before, and even the government warned people to patch--twice.
Only a month later did Blaster come out, and all the morons who didn't patch were exposed. What do you want Microsoft to do, hold your hand and wipe your ass for you? Sometimes, users have to accept blame for their own unwillingness.
The browser wars have already been won.
You're kidding, right? IE is close to 90% of the market share.
FireBird has beaten IE and we are just waiting for the inertia to bury the old stalwart.
How has it beaten it at all if more people use IE? When SP2 comes out this year, IE will have built-in pop-up blocking and a download manager, and then even LESS people will be bothered to try a browser that still thinks it should reimplement every widget with "XUL" for some bizarre reason.
Come on, this was a bad year, though everybody seems to pretend that nothing happened.
In the span of six months, GNU was hacked twice, and GNOME, Gentoo, and Debian were all breached. And according to Linux's dirty little secret, LinuxSecurity.com, dozens of new holes in OSS software are discovered every week.
Where is the Slashdot article on that?