And yet, after all those paragraphs of ranting, you still didn't answer how it's Microsoft's fault that users run foreign attachments. Do you want Bill Gates to go door-to-door?
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The point isn't that Linux isn't secure, it's that it's as insecure as all the others.
Oh, you mean that one that was patched a whole month before? Or are you talking about that e-mail attachment virus, the one for which you apparently expect Bill Gates to show up at people's houses telling them not to run the attachment?
How is it Microsoft's fault if users run the attachment? Is it Linus Torvalds' fault when there's a sendmail hole? Is that suddenly a "Linux hole?"
Just curious.
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That's so Kool dude. Let's Klap our hands in Komplete celebration.
If this were an interview with Linux Torvalds, and Linux had the marketshare Windows does, you all would be blaming people who didn't patch their programs and fix their holes.
But it's Microsoft Windows, so absolutely everything they do is wrong by default. The bias is sickening. At least be rational and level-headed about it.
Give Linux the marketshare Windows has and we'll see how many vulnerabilities crop up.
Some people need to play whiny victim. "Poor me, I got hit by Microsoft's hole. But I didn't want to download their evil patch that fixed the hole. Pity me."
How is it Bill's fault that users are stupid with regard to e-mail attachments? Is he going to come to people's doors and tell them not to run attachments?
Honestly, jamie, that was a cheap shot that had no basis. As if sendmail hasn't had its share of problems over the years. Imagine if it had the marketshare Windows has.
Sobig.F is a good example of how fundamental the problems with Microsoft software is.
How? It's an e-mail attachment. People keep running it.
I ask this every time and nobody ever answers (they don't want to, apparently). What does user stupidity with regard to e-mail attachments have to do with Windows? Absolutely nothing.
But I guess people need something to blame Microsoft for this week (instead of getting back to work on playing catchup in the Linux desktop market...).
This is Slashdot. Even though this isn't news (Microsoft said they were going to do this in the PREVIOUS article!), and even though Microsoft has every legal and moral right to do this, Slashdot needs a bash-Microsoft article to generate page-hits for its parent company.
Mod me down if you disagree, but I think it's obvious. This is a complete non-story, and there are better things we could be talking about. Why would a bunch of *nix nerds want to talk about Microsoft and its IM licensing? The only possible reason is to just bash Microsoft.
SoBig is the result of user activity. It is NOT a Windows hole. It is e-mail attachment stupidity.
DCOM was patched a month before Blaster hit.
You are just spreading anti-Windows FUD.
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This is exactly what needs to happen. In a few years, Microsoft is going to release a hardware accelerated desktop with full transparency and graphic effects. It would be nice if Linux would beat it to the punch within the next year.
I don't know; I had Slackware 9 and its stock kernel. I upgraded to the latest snapshot of 2.6 and saw no speed improvement at all, except for a slightly longer bootup time. I guess it varies.
Users give a shit about upgradability. The 98 network at the business I started work at wanted me to upgrade everyone to XP so the machines would stop crashing. I did, and the crashing stopped.
Users will upgrade, because they want to have "the latest thing." You're underestimating shiny-things-syndrome.
There are build problems if you compile serial devices as modules. You have to compile them into the kernel or hand-edit the build process after the "make menu" step.
"They'll say, 'You can't joke about rape. Rape's not funny.' I can prove to you that rape is funny. Picture Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd. See, hey, why do you think they call him Porky?"
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I said this before. Slashdot is a corporate-owned business. It can't just go and shut down its business for a day. It needs to keep posting "Microsoft hole," SCO, and amateur rocket stories to get page hits and money.
Think also that this effect has something to do with why these problems never seem to actually get *fixed*.
What clueless monkeys modded you up? The patch was out a whole month before. The government warned you TWICE to install it. Slashdot had an article about it, and it was reported everywhere. Windows Update shoved it up as a critical patch.
Windows is not more insecure than any other OS. It's just more widely used, and therefore, more widely abused. That's a fact, so you can stop your internal dialogue. Remember how GNU got hacked recently? That seems to have quietly slipped from people's minds. Also, all the corrupting 2.4.x series Linux kernels, including the "turkey" kernel that blasted ext3 filesystems. Check out Linux Security sometime.
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And yet, after all those paragraphs of ranting, you still didn't answer how it's Microsoft's fault that users run foreign attachments. Do you want Bill Gates to go door-to-door?
The point isn't that Linux isn't secure, it's that it's as insecure as all the others.
Oh, you mean that one that was patched a whole month before? Or are you talking about that e-mail attachment virus, the one for which you apparently expect Bill Gates to show up at people's houses telling them not to run the attachment?
How is it Microsoft's fault if users run the attachment? Is it Linus Torvalds' fault when there's a sendmail hole? Is that suddenly a "Linux hole?"
Just curious.
That's so Kool dude. Let's Klap our hands in Komplete celebration.
This was China and Japan's deal. They cooperated willingly of their own volition. What does OSS have to do with that?
Gee, thanks, Google, for bending right over and taking it. Heaven forbid anybody stand up for something.
This has already been quoted above.
If this were an interview with Linux Torvalds, and Linux had the marketshare Windows does, you all would be blaming people who didn't patch their programs and fix their holes.
But it's Microsoft Windows, so absolutely everything they do is wrong by default. The bias is sickening. At least be rational and level-headed about it.
Give Linux the marketshare Windows has and we'll see how many vulnerabilities crop up.
Some people need to play whiny victim. "Poor me, I got hit by Microsoft's hole. But I didn't want to download their evil patch that fixed the hole. Pity me."
How is it Bill's fault that users are stupid with regard to e-mail attachments? Is he going to come to people's doors and tell them not to run attachments?
Honestly, jamie, that was a cheap shot that had no basis. As if sendmail hasn't had its share of problems over the years. Imagine if it had the marketshare Windows has.
Sobig.F is a good example of how fundamental the problems with Microsoft software is.
How? It's an e-mail attachment. People keep running it.
I ask this every time and nobody ever answers (they don't want to, apparently). What does user stupidity with regard to e-mail attachments have to do with Windows? Absolutely nothing.
But I guess people need something to blame Microsoft for this week (instead of getting back to work on playing catchup in the Linux desktop market...).
Mod me down if you disagree.
This is Slashdot. Even though this isn't news (Microsoft said they were going to do this in the PREVIOUS article!), and even though Microsoft has every legal and moral right to do this, Slashdot needs a bash-Microsoft article to generate page-hits for its parent company.
Mod me down if you disagree, but I think it's obvious. This is a complete non-story, and there are better things we could be talking about. Why would a bunch of *nix nerds want to talk about Microsoft and its IM licensing? The only possible reason is to just bash Microsoft.
What's funny is that this isn't news. Microsoft said they would do this in the LAST article. Doesn't anybody pay attention?
The feature is nice, but it doesn't radically change what people do with GUIs.
Then why does everyone else have it but Linux?
SoBig is the result of user activity. It is NOT a Windows hole. It is e-mail attachment stupidity.
DCOM was patched a month before Blaster hit.
You are just spreading anti-Windows FUD.
This is exactly what needs to happen. In a few years, Microsoft is going to release a hardware accelerated desktop with full transparency and graphic effects. It would be nice if Linux would beat it to the punch within the next year.
In my experience, they do. Different strokes for different folks.
Clearly, others disagree. You don't find it funny for whatever uptight reason, while others do.
This is michael we're talking about. You're aware of his cybersquatting on censorware.org, aren't you? Seriously.
I don't know; I had Slackware 9 and its stock kernel. I upgraded to the latest snapshot of 2.6 and saw no speed improvement at all, except for a slightly longer bootup time. I guess it varies.
Users give a shit about upgradability. The 98 network at the business I started work at wanted me to upgrade everyone to XP so the machines would stop crashing. I did, and the crashing stopped.
Users will upgrade, because they want to have "the latest thing." You're underestimating shiny-things-syndrome.
There are build problems if you compile serial devices as modules. You have to compile them into the kernel or hand-edit the build process after the "make menu" step.
"They'll say, 'You can't joke about rape. Rape's not funny.' I can prove to you that rape is funny. Picture Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd. See, hey, why do you think they call him Porky?" -- George Carlin
I said this before. Slashdot is a corporate-owned business. It can't just go and shut down its business for a day. It needs to keep posting "Microsoft hole," SCO, and amateur rocket stories to get page hits and money.
Think also that this effect has something to do with why these problems never seem to actually get *fixed*.
What clueless monkeys modded you up? The patch was out a whole month before. The government warned you TWICE to install it. Slashdot had an article about it, and it was reported everywhere. Windows Update shoved it up as a critical patch.
Windows is not more insecure than any other OS. It's just more widely used, and therefore, more widely abused. That's a fact, so you can stop your internal dialogue. Remember how GNU got hacked recently? That seems to have quietly slipped from people's minds. Also, all the corrupting 2.4.x series Linux kernels, including the "turkey" kernel that blasted ext3 filesystems. Check out Linux Security sometime.