It's so frustrating sometimes that so many posters on Slashdot continue to be misinformed about things that are common knowledge in the tech world.
Vista had the same flaw because it's got the same Win32 code. Vista is not a rewrite of Windows. It's based off the Windows 2003 code, which was based off XP. It's the same Windows as before but with some new rushed 1.0 APIs for hackers to crack. WinFX is just a layer on top of Win32. It's the same Win32 Windows we've known all along with some internal updates (i.e., a new networking stack).
So once again we have a chance to bash Intel, perfect!
You'll continue to see this throughout the year as Intel pulls further ahead of AMD. Their laptop Core Duo chip already competes with AMD's high-end desktop chips while consuming WAY less power, and AMD is a year behind in both 65nm and 45nm processes. So expect a lot more AMD fanboys on Slashdot to make back-handed insults at Intel despite that company having the superior future roadmap in 2006, because for some reason, everyone on Slashdot has a never-ending hard-on for AMD.
Funny, since the low-power laptop Core Duo chip manages to compete performance-wise with the desktop Athlon64 3800+ X2, all the while consuming less power at 100% than the Athlon does when idle. Think about it, a laptop chip competing with the beloved AMD desktop chips. One wonders how far ahead Intel will be when the desktop-focused Conroe ships later this year.
Because Apple's got the buzz, and randomly tying into it for no reason at all generates more page hits for Slashdot. Accuracy isn't a concern anymore; bombast is.
I don't watch Fox News or hardly any television at all, but it's typical for ultra-lefties to automatically assume I do and try to dismiss my opinion by telling me to stop watching it. You can't debate my facts, so you resort to that. Nice grammar, by the way.
Interestingly, a UCLA/Stanford study showed Fox News was the most centrist news channel. I've noticed when liberals mock Fox News, they never, EVER actually cite an example of their bias. It's just an idea they've accepted and spread over the years without giving any examples. Meanwhile, CNN's head Eason Jordan resigned after claiming the U.S. military was targeting journalists in Iraq. Not a peep from the mainstream press about it. Funny how that works.
I forgot to amend this to my post. I have another question, this time for Slashdot: Why is this article in the "Politics" section instead of "Your Rights Online?"
So, does this China fiasco mark the end of the Slashdot love-fest for Google that has lasted the past few years? The endless front-page advertisements, the loving posts about how great they are, and the downmods on so-called "looney conspiracy theorists" who point out their privacy violations (the infamous tracking cookie) and flaws? Is it finally over?
Now you guys are catching up to what the rest of us knew all along--yes, they ARE evil. They are flawed and money-hungry (or "greedy," as you anti-corporatists love to bleat). They don't give a FUCK as long as they can have a market in friggin' China.
Hopefully, this means the love-fest is over so Slashdot can find a new pointless topic to spam the front page with (more Apple benchmark articles, I presume). Please, no more with the Google romance. Up to now, Google would fart, and the sound you heard was a million Slashdotters sniffing. Please let it be over, for the love of God!
No, because there really aren't any. Unless you spend all day at those hateful far-left sites, of course. They claim to be so tolerant--except when you have a viewpoint opposite theirs. If so, then out come the "fascist" and "Nazi" remarks (even though none of them have ever lived under a dictatorship or read the history of Naziism). Thanks, Godwin's Law.
This is Slashdot, where ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING can be turned into an anti-Bush rant and not get modded off-topic. It's part of the groupthink around here.
While Google wasn't the only company that was called, they are the only company that is currently holding out against the government's demands for search terms.
Uh, so what? You just said it yourself--they weren't the only company called. So doesn't that kind of damage your claim that this is punishment for holding out on the requested search results?
In the trade they call this collateral damage. Perfectly acceptable.
Oh, I see, you believe it so it must be true. This isn't exactly "showing your work" as you requested earlier.
It does have no viruses and is the most stable and secure OS in the world. But nothing's perfect. Operating systems are a massively huge and complex piece of software.
You want to talk about ancient vulnerabilities affecting people today, look at Windows' WMF. Hell, XP is still having people run in admin accounts in the year 2006.
Oh, whatever. This article has a question mark at the end of the headline, leaving the conclusion to the reader. The article simply points out the flaw in MacWorld's benchmarks (not taking into account processor usage).
1.) MacWorld puts out benchmarks 2.) Someone points out the benchmarks are flawed 3.) Where's the bias?
The last Slashdot article screamed with a headline about "not living up to the hype" regarding Apple's benchmarks, and all the posters made Steve Jobs reality-distortion-field jokes, so it's a little silly to claim there's a bias in favor of Apple in this case.
Also, for the record, they snowed us earlier this month.
No, they didn't. The rumor was that the redesigned DS was going to be released the week after MacWorld. Nintendo dismissed that rumor, not the news that they were redesigning the DS (which has been a rumor since last year).
The Core Duo is not significantly lower power than the Athlon 3800+ despite being a smaller feature size and the fact that it is a mobile applications chip while the Athlon is a desktop CPU.
Yes, it is significantly lower power. At 100%, it still consumes less power than the Athlon at idle while matching its performance.
It is also a 32 bit onlh implementation. Give that Vista and Linux both support 64 bit operations you can bet that I'd want a Turion instead. AMD will be introducing Dual Core Turions shortly - and that is what I will be buying.
Turions consume more power and aren't as fast as a Core Solo. The Merom due this July will be 64-bit as well.
Intel Fanboys have their heads in the sand - look at the directions in market share gains/losses and stock prices between the two companies and it will be immediately obvious that there is a revolution happening.
AMD's revolution is a year behind, and their roadmap is bettered by Intel's, who's kicking butt with the Core Duos. Call 'em "Intel fanboys" if you want, but this lame underdog mentality that causes Slashdotters to obsess over AMD doesn't change the fact AMD is a year behind in the 65nm and 45nm switch, and Intel owns the mobile market. With Merom and Conroe coming out this year expected to halve power usage while doubling performance, it's obvious who will dominate this year. AMD has yet to go 65nm and is having to rely on the unreliable IBM for chip development (good luck waiting on those guys). AMD had a good run, but like ATI, they've fallen behind and can't catch up.
Uh, no they're not. Even the laptop Core Duo is matching the Athlon64 3800+ X2.
Is there a requirement to jerk off over AMD when you sign up to Slashdot or something? These aren't the Pentium 4 days anymore. Intel owns the mobile market, and their future roadmap kills AMD's.
No, it doesn't take that long; everybody is lying. Intel started 65nm on Christmas when Santa dropped them down the chimney where the bunny suits live.
But with all of this extra money, and seamingly having better technological capabilities, AMD is still beating out Intel as far as performance.
That's no longer true. The Core Duo, a low-power laptop chip, keeps up with the Athlon64 3800+ X2. Damn impressive. Merom is expected to shift ahead even more dramatically.
I of course know nothing about how to make processors, but it seams that this is the most plausible reason why Intel has trouble making chips that are as good as AMD.
I've never understood the fanboyism for AMD on Slashdot. Intel has been making chips that compete with AMDs since last year. The Pentium 4 days are over. Would you rather have the Core Duo or the Turion in your laptop?
Intel is succeeding Netburst with Merom and Conroe later this year. Viiv is just a marketing name for a list of minimum system specifications for multimedia computers that happens to use a bunch of Intel-branded parts. It's unrelated to their chips.
As for who is in the hole, AMD is a year behind both 65nm and 45nm, and the Yonah is a laptop chip competing performance-wise with AMD's desktop processors. 'nuff said.
Those extra registers in 64-bit don't go that long a way (about 5%-10% on average last I checked the benchmarks). A lot of the 64-bit performance comes from the fact apps in 64-bit mode know that their chip will have at least SSE, which speeds things up. A 32-bit app optimized with SSE instructions can compete with 64-bit performance, since 64-bit is slowed down with the cache bloat and increased pointer size. 64-bit is hype designed to sell chips. It's not needed unless you actually have to access more than 4GB of RAM.
This is a benefit for the Intel Macs, whose baseline will always be the Core Duo that has SSE3, meaning all apps will be compiled with support for it, 64-bit or not. Until you need more than 4GB of RAM, 64-bit is overrated buzz that offers little.
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It's so frustrating sometimes that so many posters on Slashdot continue to be misinformed about things that are common knowledge in the tech world.
Vista had the same flaw because it's got the same Win32 code. Vista is not a rewrite of Windows. It's based off the Windows 2003 code, which was based off XP. It's the same Windows as before but with some new rushed 1.0 APIs for hackers to crack. WinFX is just a layer on top of Win32. It's the same Win32 Windows we've known all along with some internal updates (i.e., a new networking stack).
So once again we have a chance to bash Intel, perfect!
You'll continue to see this throughout the year as Intel pulls further ahead of AMD. Their laptop Core Duo chip already competes with AMD's high-end desktop chips while consuming WAY less power, and AMD is a year behind in both 65nm and 45nm processes. So expect a lot more AMD fanboys on Slashdot to make back-handed insults at Intel despite that company having the superior future roadmap in 2006, because for some reason, everyone on Slashdot has a never-ending hard-on for AMD.
Funny, since the low-power laptop Core Duo chip manages to compete performance-wise with the desktop Athlon64 3800+ X2, all the while consuming less power at 100% than the Athlon does when idle. Think about it, a laptop chip competing with the beloved AMD desktop chips. One wonders how far ahead Intel will be when the desktop-focused Conroe ships later this year.
Because Apple's got the buzz, and randomly tying into it for no reason at all generates more page hits for Slashdot. Accuracy isn't a concern anymore; bombast is.
3% yeah, but it's the top 3%.
I don't watch Fox News or hardly any television at all, but it's typical for ultra-lefties to automatically assume I do and try to dismiss my opinion by telling me to stop watching it. You can't debate my facts, so you resort to that. Nice grammar, by the way.
Interestingly, a UCLA/Stanford study showed Fox News was the most centrist news channel. I've noticed when liberals mock Fox News, they never, EVER actually cite an example of their bias. It's just an idea they've accepted and spread over the years without giving any examples. Meanwhile, CNN's head Eason Jordan resigned after claiming the U.S. military was targeting journalists in Iraq. Not a peep from the mainstream press about it. Funny how that works.
I forgot to amend this to my post. I have another question, this time for Slashdot: Why is this article in the "Politics" section instead of "Your Rights Online?"
So, does this China fiasco mark the end of the Slashdot love-fest for Google that has lasted the past few years? The endless front-page advertisements, the loving posts about how great they are, and the downmods on so-called "looney conspiracy theorists" who point out their privacy violations (the infamous tracking cookie) and flaws? Is it finally over?
Now you guys are catching up to what the rest of us knew all along--yes, they ARE evil. They are flawed and money-hungry (or "greedy," as you anti-corporatists love to bleat). They don't give a FUCK as long as they can have a market in friggin' China.
Hopefully, this means the love-fest is over so Slashdot can find a new pointless topic to spam the front page with (more Apple benchmark articles, I presume). Please, no more with the Google romance. Up to now, Google would fart, and the sound you heard was a million Slashdotters sniffing. Please let it be over, for the love of God!
No, because there really aren't any. Unless you spend all day at those hateful far-left sites, of course. They claim to be so tolerant--except when you have a viewpoint opposite theirs. If so, then out come the "fascist" and "Nazi" remarks (even though none of them have ever lived under a dictatorship or read the history of Naziism). Thanks, Godwin's Law.
This is Slashdot, where ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING can be turned into an anti-Bush rant and not get modded off-topic. It's part of the groupthink around here.
While Google wasn't the only company that was called, they are the only company that is currently holding out against the government's demands for search terms.
Uh, so what? You just said it yourself--they weren't the only company called. So doesn't that kind of damage your claim that this is punishment for holding out on the requested search results?
In the trade they call this collateral damage. Perfectly acceptable.
Oh, I see, you believe it so it must be true. This isn't exactly "showing your work" as you requested earlier.
Actually, Darwin uses a lot of OpenBSD code.
OS X draws code from OpenBSD. In fact, a lot of the command-line BSD tools are taken from OpenBSD. Darwin is a compilation of the best of the best.
Take a guess what server army.mil runs on. Go ahead, guess.
t plays on most players out there, from no-names to big names (as opposed to iTunes' AAC, which plays on iPods and only iPods.
AAC is standard MPEG-4 audio. WMA is Microsoft's goofy attempt at taking over the digital media market and forcing it to be Windows-only.
Between Apple's AAC and Microsoft's WMA, which is cross platform and lets Mac users play, and which is Windows-only?
Right. Next.
Right, WMA is just so open and free!
Between Apple's AAC and Microsoft's WMA, which is cross platform and which is Windows-only?
Right. So much for "doesn't let others participate." Next.
It does have no viruses and is the most stable and secure OS in the world. But nothing's perfect. Operating systems are a massively huge and complex piece of software.
You want to talk about ancient vulnerabilities affecting people today, look at Windows' WMF. Hell, XP is still having people run in admin accounts in the year 2006.
Oh, whatever. This article has a question mark at the end of the headline, leaving the conclusion to the reader. The article simply points out the flaw in MacWorld's benchmarks (not taking into account processor usage).
1.) MacWorld puts out benchmarks
2.) Someone points out the benchmarks are flawed
3.) Where's the bias?
The last Slashdot article screamed with a headline about "not living up to the hype" regarding Apple's benchmarks, and all the posters made Steve Jobs reality-distortion-field jokes, so it's a little silly to claim there's a bias in favor of Apple in this case.
Also, for the record, they snowed us earlier this month.
No, they didn't. The rumor was that the redesigned DS was going to be released the week after MacWorld. Nintendo dismissed that rumor, not the news that they were redesigning the DS (which has been a rumor since last year).
The Core Duo is not significantly lower power than the Athlon 3800+ despite being a smaller feature size and the fact that it is a mobile applications chip while the Athlon is a desktop CPU.
Yes, it is significantly lower power. At 100%, it still consumes less power than the Athlon at idle while matching its performance.
It is also a 32 bit onlh implementation. Give that Vista and Linux both support 64 bit operations you can bet that I'd want a Turion instead. AMD will be introducing Dual Core Turions shortly - and that is what I will be buying.
Turions consume more power and aren't as fast as a Core Solo. The Merom due this July will be 64-bit as well.
Intel Fanboys have their heads in the sand - look at the directions in market share gains/losses and stock prices between the two companies and it will be immediately obvious that there is a revolution happening.
AMD's revolution is a year behind, and their roadmap is bettered by Intel's, who's kicking butt with the Core Duos. Call 'em "Intel fanboys" if you want, but this lame underdog mentality that causes Slashdotters to obsess over AMD doesn't change the fact AMD is a year behind in the 65nm and 45nm switch, and Intel owns the mobile market. With Merom and Conroe coming out this year expected to halve power usage while doubling performance, it's obvious who will dominate this year. AMD has yet to go 65nm and is having to rely on the unreliable IBM for chip development (good luck waiting on those guys). AMD had a good run, but like ATI, they've fallen behind and can't catch up.
Uh, no they're not. Even the laptop Core Duo is matching the Athlon64 3800+ X2.
Is there a requirement to jerk off over AMD when you sign up to Slashdot or something? These aren't the Pentium 4 days anymore. Intel owns the mobile market, and their future roadmap kills AMD's.
No, it doesn't take that long; everybody is lying. Intel started 65nm on Christmas when Santa dropped them down the chimney where the bunny suits live.
Duh.
But with all of this extra money, and seamingly having better technological capabilities, AMD is still beating out Intel as far as performance.
That's no longer true. The Core Duo, a low-power laptop chip, keeps up with the Athlon64 3800+ X2. Damn impressive. Merom is expected to shift ahead even more dramatically.
I of course know nothing about how to make processors, but it seams that this is the most plausible reason why Intel has trouble making chips that are as good as AMD.
I've never understood the fanboyism for AMD on Slashdot. Intel has been making chips that compete with AMDs since last year. The Pentium 4 days are over. Would you rather have the Core Duo or the Turion in your laptop?
I beleive so, as much as AMD fan would like to admit, Intel has the upper hand for future chips.
And now we see the reason behind AMD's lawsuit. If you can't beat 'em, desperately sue 'em to make them look bad.
Intel is succeeding Netburst with Merom and Conroe later this year. Viiv is just a marketing name for a list of minimum system specifications for multimedia computers that happens to use a bunch of Intel-branded parts. It's unrelated to their chips.
As for who is in the hole, AMD is a year behind both 65nm and 45nm, and the Yonah is a laptop chip competing performance-wise with AMD's desktop processors. 'nuff said.
Those extra registers in 64-bit don't go that long a way (about 5%-10% on average last I checked the benchmarks). A lot of the 64-bit performance comes from the fact apps in 64-bit mode know that their chip will have at least SSE, which speeds things up. A 32-bit app optimized with SSE instructions can compete with 64-bit performance, since 64-bit is slowed down with the cache bloat and increased pointer size. 64-bit is hype designed to sell chips. It's not needed unless you actually have to access more than 4GB of RAM.
This is a benefit for the Intel Macs, whose baseline will always be the Core Duo that has SSE3, meaning all apps will be compiled with support for it, 64-bit or not. Until you need more than 4GB of RAM, 64-bit is overrated buzz that offers little.