Why do you think that an AMD CPU beats an Intel CPU at the same GHz?
You have nothing to back up your "not as well-designed as AMDs" claim with regard to Yonah/Merom/Conroe. AMD is going 65nm way at the end of 2006, a year behind Intel, who will be going into 2007 with 45nm plans (a year before AMD).
The dual-core Yonah consumes less power at 100% usage than the Athlon64 3800+ X2 does when idle while competing with it performance-wise. A low-power mobile Intel chip competing with a high-end desktop chip from AMD. Good design, indeed. The Merom chip coming later this year is actually expected to almost half power usage compared to Yonah, which is even more impressive. AMD has yet to get around to 65nm. It's clear 2006 is swinging toward Intel (as much as the AMD fans on Slashdot hate to hear it).
If it is then it seems Intel is behind the 8 ball again and this is hype.
Only in the Magic Land in the minds of AMD fanboys where AMD is the king of the land with a beautiful queen by his side and Intel is the dastardly wizard trapped in the tower with giant trees ruining his shit. Meanwhile in Reality Land, AMD has yet to get around to 65nm, Intel's low-power mobile chips are competing with high-end AMD desktop chips, and Intel's roadmap already has 45nm on the horizon. But right, anything to make a quick conclusion in a Slashdot post so you can claim Intel is behind and this is hype, in order to restore your holy AMD faith!
Right, it has to do with the increase in transistors, AS STATED IN THE FREAKING QUOTE. The end result is typically an increase in processing power, hence the "therefore" phrase stating such. All factually correct.
Methinks you're just being pointlessly anal retentive for mod points' sake.
Intel is seriously droping out of being serious contestant in current technology for quite some time now.
Uh...do you have any points to back up this assertion? Intel's future roadmap is ahead of AMD's. AMD doesn't even have 65nm chips out, and Intel is already talking about their 45nm plans. It actually looks like, for 2006 at least, it's AMD that's behind.
How is Intel "seriously droping out?" They're already ahead.
Why are content creators always referred to as "big corporations" here on Slashdot? Is it some sort of generic stereotype used to dismiss their rights?
Hell, Slashdot's owned and run by one of those "big corporations."
I can understand that a company can use its monopoly to force out competitors. I don't understand how a company can force out competitors before it becomes a monopoly.
The anti-trust trial showed how. Microsoft used its majority of a platform to prevent competitors and further extend itself to a 95+% monopoly.
A robber with a shotgun can force me to give him all my money. How can a 3 year old with a plastic knife force me to do the same thing?
Windows was already the majority operating system by the early 90s, but it became a near-total monopoly during the rest of the decade.
Many people on slashdot refuse to admit that Microsoft's products won a lot of market share through their merits, not illegal business maneuvers.
That's because the crash-worthy Windows didn't have merits and was bested by the superior OS/2 which ran Windows programs faster than Windows did.
They insist that Microsoft won its dominance only through illegal means and that whatever alternative they support only has technical merits. As long as they only live in their fantasy world, they will never achieve their goals in real life.
This isn't a "fantasy world." I guess you missed the whole "found guilty of abusing their monopoly" verdict of the anti-trust trial.
I get it, you're one of those blind Microsoft defenders. Sorry but the absolute truth is that Windows 9x really, really sucked, but superior alternatives were bullied out of the way by illegal OEM deals (I notice you didn't address these in your post). Microsoft is just now catching up to concepts introduced by NexStep in 1990 and OS X five years ago. You're still running in an admin account in the year 2006, and Windows requires "Defender" software to diaper itself from the Internet. You don't think that's a bit ridiculous?
You can do that now because of the anti-trust trial, but it doesn't matter because 10 years ago, Microsoft made sure you couldn't do that. This created a monopoly, and all the applications became dependent on the Windows platform, which made the monopoly huge, and competing offerings irrelevant. In other words, you can do that now because competitors are so irrelevant in the face of the monopoly, which was made so huge by preventing those competitors from competing in the first place.
Why should any company be forced to reveal their trade secrets?
Simple, because they levied their monopoly position to prevent competitors from being able to offer interoperable alternative products.
Is Blizzard an abusive monopoly that controls 95+% of computers and is levying that monopoly position to prevent competition? If the answer is yes, then yes, make source code available and document the secret APIs.
Wrong, Microsoft strong-armed OEMs into bundling only Windows throughout the 90s, levying special little fines if they dared offer competing products. So technically superior alternatives like OS/2 and BeOS weren't given a fair chance, and consumers never got to try them out.
Hey, it's cool. This will never take off like Microsoft hopes. But if it did, Adobe owns Flash now, and they just might, you know, have to delay Photoshop CS3 for unforeseen "technical reasons." Let the companies squeeze each other by the balls; I don't care.
OMG dudez, so like today the x1900xtx was released, and i was like, OMG! I can get 5more frames in the 26th pitch black hallway fo Doom 3, yo. so i called my dad in the Hamptons and he said he'd wire me the $700 for the new card so I can show off to Joey next door. he's got a lame nvidia and it is 3fps less than me in Far Cry, even tho i don play that game anymore and its already 2 years ol. lolz, j/k, nvidia is pretty good, but this x1900xtx is new and very expensive and therefor better and will prolly get me 7 frmaes over Joey now instead of just 3 so its all good
so like F.E.A.R. wil play so much better in its 200 levels of abandoned warehouses that all look the same because i paid $700 for my jet engine video card. Tim down the street is a console gamer, he's lame he uses a Mac which is for FAG0TS, but he said what im doing is lame because for that much $$$ i could just buy an x-box 360 or wait for ps3 and always rest assured games released will work for it wthout needing hundreds for a new video card every 12 months, but he's a FAG0T what does he know, he spends his money on actual computer hardware to get work done, and not to play the 4,251th first person shooter set in dark hallways with a shotgun and rocket launcher in it. that fag0t
so hells yeah my new card is on order now, can't wait for next year to buy another one and play Far Cry in AMD 64-bits mod with 10 more frames per second, that makes the game so much more awesome and fun. its true cuz Joey showed me the 64-bits mode version and its got more textures and stuff! Tim says thats because AMD/CryTek added content to it to trick you to think 64-bits was better than the 32-bits in order to sell 64-bit AMD chips, but like i said hes a tard and doesnt play games so what dos he know. game companies would never trick you like that
Because marketing departments at electronics manufacturers are complete idiots. So you get "Radeon X1900 XTX." Same with companies like Sony. For some reason, they get off on adding a bunch of gibberish engineering numbers and letters, which only confuses the consumer and makes it harder to keep track of all this crap. XL, XT, XTX, etc.
Along with forcing the consumer to memorize engineering names, you've got the blandness and graphics obsession of PC games, and now you know why PC gaming is on its way down.
CryTek recently released a "Direct X 10" demo, and the video showed an island from Far Cry, but now you could push the leaves around as meshes, they cast soft shadows, and day could change to night dynamically. I yawned when it was over, because the video was still Far Cry. "OMG I CAN PUSH LEAVES NOW! PC gaming has achieved nirvana."
Because using Apple makes it the perfect FUD formula. Intel-bashing + pointless Apple mention - any mention of AMD's chip flaw errata documents = flamebait article designed to get page views for advertisers on Slashdot.
Sir, what are you doing? This is Slashdot, where everybody for some reason has a hard-on for AMD and ignores their flaws while pointing out Intel's to further their fanboy agendas. For crying out loud, we almost had a moment of calm, rational reasoning there. It's almost as if you're suggesting that the submitter is blowing things out of proportion, and that is IMPOSSIBLE HERE! Our system is fool-proof. Good day.
There is no reason why typing commands at a prompt should completely brickify a computer. Result in data loss? Yeah. Mean you have to reinstall the OS? That's fine. But render a computer utterly incapable of being restored to a usable state by the user? Absolutely not.
Excuse me? So you don't think hacking into the booting firmware's shell prompt, manipulating the EFI partition, and loading in a bunch of random.efi drivers found from third-party sites on the Internet wouldn't, you know, risk corrupting the booting of the computer?
When you're dealing with the computer's controlling firmware--in this case EFI, a modern BIOS replacement controlling the low-level infrastructure--I don't see why it's hard to understand that messing with that could corrupt it, as would flashing a BIOS chip or doing any other crazy things in a computer. You can also make a brick of my router if you screw up when flashing the firmware.
It's not tied into the operating system. I thought everyone knew that from the antitrust trial.
A lot of Microsoft apps use the IE page rendering libraries, but it's not like IE is tied to the kernel or anything.
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Yeah, but remember, Internet Explorer is an inseparable part of the foundations of Microsoft Windows (tm). So obviously, there couldn't be Internet Explorer 7 leaks for download, because that would break the very close ties between the Microsoft Windows (tm) core and the Internet Explorer family of technologies, which is a fundamental impossibility.
Either it's all a fraud, or you're distributing full copies of Windows, too. There's just no way Internet Explorer 7 could be made available separately....
According to Apple, they still designed the motherboards in the iMac and MacBook Pro. FW800 was probably left out to save space and cut costs, especially since you can get dual FW800 on an Express card through that nifty little Express slot.
There are companies that sell Firewire 800 adapters that you can plug in through the Express slot, which will run at full Firewire 800 speed. Firewire 800 was probably left out of the MacBook Pro for space and cost reasons.
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Why do you think that an AMD CPU beats an Intel CPU at the same GHz?
You have nothing to back up your "not as well-designed as AMDs" claim with regard to Yonah/Merom/Conroe. AMD is going 65nm way at the end of 2006, a year behind Intel, who will be going into 2007 with 45nm plans (a year before AMD).
So they'll be a year behind with 65nm and a year behind with 45nm?
The dual-core Yonah consumes less power at 100% usage than the Athlon64 3800+ X2 does when idle while competing with it performance-wise. A low-power mobile Intel chip competing with a high-end desktop chip from AMD. Good design, indeed. The Merom chip coming later this year is actually expected to almost half power usage compared to Yonah, which is even more impressive. AMD has yet to get around to 65nm. It's clear 2006 is swinging toward Intel (as much as the AMD fans on Slashdot hate to hear it).
If it is then it seems Intel is behind the 8 ball again and this is hype.
Only in the Magic Land in the minds of AMD fanboys where AMD is the king of the land with a beautiful queen by his side and Intel is the dastardly wizard trapped in the tower with giant trees ruining his shit. Meanwhile in Reality Land, AMD has yet to get around to 65nm, Intel's low-power mobile chips are competing with high-end AMD desktop chips, and Intel's roadmap already has 45nm on the horizon. But right, anything to make a quick conclusion in a Slashdot post so you can claim Intel is behind and this is hype, in order to restore your holy AMD faith!
Right, it has to do with the increase in transistors, AS STATED IN THE FREAKING QUOTE. The end result is typically an increase in processing power, hence the "therefore" phrase stating such. All factually correct.
Methinks you're just being pointlessly anal retentive for mod points' sake.
Intel is seriously droping out of being serious contestant in current technology for quite some time now.
Uh...do you have any points to back up this assertion? Intel's future roadmap is ahead of AMD's. AMD doesn't even have 65nm chips out, and Intel is already talking about their 45nm plans. It actually looks like, for 2006 at least, it's AMD that's behind.
How is Intel "seriously droping out?" They're already ahead.
Why are content creators always referred to as "big corporations" here on Slashdot? Is it some sort of generic stereotype used to dismiss their rights?
Hell, Slashdot's owned and run by one of those "big corporations."
I don't understand your circular logic.
That might be related to the fact there is none.
I can understand that a company can use its monopoly to force out competitors. I don't understand how a company can force out competitors before it becomes a monopoly.
The anti-trust trial showed how. Microsoft used its majority of a platform to prevent competitors and further extend itself to a 95+% monopoly.
A robber with a shotgun can force me to give him all my money. How can a 3 year old with a plastic knife force me to do the same thing?
Windows was already the majority operating system by the early 90s, but it became a near-total monopoly during the rest of the decade.
Many people on slashdot refuse to admit that Microsoft's products won a lot of market share through their merits, not illegal business maneuvers.
That's because the crash-worthy Windows didn't have merits and was bested by the superior OS/2 which ran Windows programs faster than Windows did.
They insist that Microsoft won its dominance only through illegal means and that whatever alternative they support only has technical merits. As long as they only live in their fantasy world, they will never achieve their goals in real life.
This isn't a "fantasy world." I guess you missed the whole "found guilty of abusing their monopoly" verdict of the anti-trust trial.
I get it, you're one of those blind Microsoft defenders. Sorry but the absolute truth is that Windows 9x really, really sucked, but superior alternatives were bullied out of the way by illegal OEM deals (I notice you didn't address these in your post). Microsoft is just now catching up to concepts introduced by NexStep in 1990 and OS X five years ago. You're still running in an admin account in the year 2006, and Windows requires "Defender" software to diaper itself from the Internet. You don't think that's a bit ridiculous?
You can do that now because of the anti-trust trial, but it doesn't matter because 10 years ago, Microsoft made sure you couldn't do that. This created a monopoly, and all the applications became dependent on the Windows platform, which made the monopoly huge, and competing offerings irrelevant. In other words, you can do that now because competitors are so irrelevant in the face of the monopoly, which was made so huge by preventing those competitors from competing in the first place.
Why should any company be forced to reveal their trade secrets?
Simple, because they levied their monopoly position to prevent competitors from being able to offer interoperable alternative products.
Is Blizzard an abusive monopoly that controls 95+% of computers and is levying that monopoly position to prevent competition? If the answer is yes, then yes, make source code available and document the secret APIs.
Next.
No one is forced to use Microsoft software.
Wrong, Microsoft strong-armed OEMs into bundling only Windows throughout the 90s, levying special little fines if they dared offer competing products. So technically superior alternatives like OS/2 and BeOS weren't given a fair chance, and consumers never got to try them out.
Left out some words--delay Photoshop CS3 for Windows is what I meant to say.
Hey, it's cool. This will never take off like Microsoft hopes. But if it did, Adobe owns Flash now, and they just might, you know, have to delay Photoshop CS3 for unforeseen "technical reasons." Let the companies squeeze each other by the balls; I don't care.
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OMG dudez, so like today the x1900xtx was released, and i was like, OMG! I can get 5more frames in the 26th pitch black hallway fo Doom 3, yo. so i called my dad in the Hamptons and he said he'd wire me the $700 for the new card so I can show off to Joey next door. he's got a lame nvidia and it is 3fps less than me in Far Cry, even tho i don play that game anymore and its already 2 years ol. lolz, j/k, nvidia is pretty good, but this x1900xtx is new and very expensive and therefor better and will prolly get me 7 frmaes over Joey now instead of just 3 so its all good
so like F.E.A.R. wil play so much better in its 200 levels of abandoned warehouses that all look the same because i paid $700 for my jet engine video card. Tim down the street is a console gamer, he's lame he uses a Mac which is for FAG0TS, but he said what im doing is lame because for that much $$$ i could just buy an x-box 360 or wait for ps3 and always rest assured games released will work for it wthout needing hundreds for a new video card every 12 months, but he's a FAG0T what does he know, he spends his money on actual computer hardware to get work done, and not to play the 4,251th first person shooter set in dark hallways with a shotgun and rocket launcher in it. that fag0t
so hells yeah my new card is on order now, can't wait for next year to buy another one and play Far Cry in AMD 64-bits mod with 10 more frames per second, that makes the game so much more awesome and fun. its true cuz Joey showed me the 64-bits mode version and its got more textures and stuff! Tim says thats because AMD/CryTek added content to it to trick you to think 64-bits was better than the 32-bits in order to sell 64-bit AMD chips, but like i said hes a tard and doesnt play games so what dos he know. game companies would never trick you like that
cya tards
Because marketing departments at electronics manufacturers are complete idiots. So you get "Radeon X1900 XTX." Same with companies like Sony. For some reason, they get off on adding a bunch of gibberish engineering numbers and letters, which only confuses the consumer and makes it harder to keep track of all this crap. XL, XT, XTX, etc.
Along with forcing the consumer to memorize engineering names, you've got the blandness and graphics obsession of PC games, and now you know why PC gaming is on its way down.
CryTek recently released a "Direct X 10" demo, and the video showed an island from Far Cry, but now you could push the leaves around as meshes, they cast soft shadows, and day could change to night dynamically. I yawned when it was over, because the video was still Far Cry. "OMG I CAN PUSH LEAVES NOW! PC gaming has achieved nirvana."
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ACK! My eyes! My eyes! They're bleeding!
Because using Apple makes it the perfect FUD formula. Intel-bashing + pointless Apple mention - any mention of AMD's chip flaw errata documents = flamebait article designed to get page views for advertisers on Slashdot.
Sir, what are you doing? This is Slashdot, where everybody for some reason has a hard-on for AMD and ignores their flaws while pointing out Intel's to further their fanboy agendas. For crying out loud, we almost had a moment of calm, rational reasoning there. It's almost as if you're suggesting that the submitter is blowing things out of proportion, and that is IMPOSSIBLE HERE! Our system is fool-proof. Good day.
Intel didn't design the motherboards in these new Intel-based Macs. According to Apple, they still designed the motherboard and everything else.
The PowerMacs, however, are reported by the rumors sites to have been contracted out to Intel.
There is no reason why typing commands at a prompt should completely brickify a computer. Result in data loss? Yeah. Mean you have to reinstall the OS? That's fine. But render a computer utterly incapable of being restored to a usable state by the user? Absolutely not.
.efi drivers found from third-party sites on the Internet wouldn't, you know, risk corrupting the booting of the computer?
Excuse me? So you don't think hacking into the booting firmware's shell prompt, manipulating the EFI partition, and loading in a bunch of random
When you're dealing with the computer's controlling firmware--in this case EFI, a modern BIOS replacement controlling the low-level infrastructure--I don't see why it's hard to understand that messing with that could corrupt it, as would flashing a BIOS chip or doing any other crazy things in a computer. You can also make a brick of my router if you screw up when flashing the firmware.
It's not tied into the operating system. I thought everyone knew that from the antitrust trial.
A lot of Microsoft apps use the IE page rendering libraries, but it's not like IE is tied to the kernel or anything.
Yeah, but remember, Internet Explorer is an inseparable part of the foundations of Microsoft Windows (tm). So obviously, there couldn't be Internet Explorer 7 leaks for download, because that would break the very close ties between the Microsoft Windows (tm) core and the Internet Explorer family of technologies, which is a fundamental impossibility.
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Either it's all a fraud, or you're distributing full copies of Windows, too. There's just no way Internet Explorer 7 could be made available separately.
According to Apple, they still designed the motherboards in the iMac and MacBook Pro. FW800 was probably left out to save space and cut costs, especially since you can get dual FW800 on an Express card through that nifty little Express slot.
There are companies that sell Firewire 800 adapters that you can plug in through the Express slot, which will run at full Firewire 800 speed. Firewire 800 was probably left out of the MacBook Pro for space and cost reasons.
That will really help improve my framerates in Excel and Word...not.