The 20180703 micro code release has the mitigations for a set of server class CPUs and comes with the old micro code license, which does not contain any of those restrictions. Also experimentation has shown, that the micro code variant for flushing L1D on VMENTER is not really much different slowdown wise from the software L1D flush mitigation which is used by the Linux kernel/KVM when the magic new MSR is not available.
While Joe Desktop User does not worry much about the L1TF mess, he very much is interested in the other fixes and mitigations which come with those updates.
It's a sad state of affairs, that corporates seem to be able to screw their customers in any way they see fit. Seems to be a common scheme. Just look at the Diesel disaster where now the car owners are facing driving restrictions in certain cities because their cars do not comply to the emission standards.
"These things are flying off the shelf" according to I.P. Nightly of Sony.
"4K replay is causing the 4 fans to run full speed. The ventilation slots are at the bottom of the device so it starts to take off the shelf like a copter" Nightly explained.
There are still real phones. Just google for Motorola F3. It's a real phone w/o any multimedia crap. The only extra is an alarm clock which I consider to be useful. And it has a display which I can read w/o my glasses.
There is another goodie: the battery life time is enormous simply because it does not have that extra useless crap
> So little credit is given to Con Kolivas... > And all Con gets is a minor footnote.
I'm a kernel developer myself and quite surprised you see it that way. Let's take a look at the kernel code:
1) Ingo credited Con for the "fair scheduling" approach right on the first page of kernel/sched.c. That's the most prominent place you can get credited for working on the Linux scheduler
* 2007-04-15 Work begun on replacing all interactivity tuning with a
* fair scheduling design by Con Kolivas.
2) He credited Con for a line of code that he added to CFS from SD, in kernel/sched.c
* This idea comes from the SD scheduler of Con Kolivas:
This is the only SD code in CFS - the two designs and approaches are quite different.
3) He credited Con in Documentation/sched-design-CFS.txt
I'd like to give credit to Con Kolivas for the general approach here:
he has proven via RSDL/SD that 'fair scheduling' is possible and that
it results in better desktop scheduling. Kudos Con!
4) Finally he credited Con in the CFS commit log as well:
add credits for recent major scheduler contributions:
Con Kolivas, for pioneering the fair-scheduling approach
Peter Williams, for smpnice
Mike Galbraith, for interactivity tuning of CFS
Srivatsa Vaddagiri, for group scheduling enhancements
Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar
I don't see much more places, where credit could be documented.
Harald Welte is one of the netfilter guys. Look into MAINTAINERS and CREDITS. He owns the stuff and he knows what he is talking about. The netfilter team also accomplished the first acknowledgement of the GPL in a court in Europe.
"Someone sitting in an ivory tower might suggest that not having VBScript and ActiveX is a good thing and that visiting sites that use them is a bad idea anyway. True, but if that Web site happens to be your internal procurement Web site, not visiting isn't really an option."
For me it's an option to tell the responsible manager that you are not able to do your job due to security problems. If he does not listen, push this issue high enough and see how long it takes until a different solution is there. Security issues have a high interest today.
Moral courage is not boosting your carrier in the first sight, but it might turn out to be a valuable criteria.
Stress is a biochemical reaction of the body on exceptional situations, like threats, danger and excitement. The oldest part of the brain (reptilian brain) sends messengers which make it possible to deal with those situations. These exceptional situations are often called stress. But the messengers can also contain endorphines which let us feel good with the so called stress.
In fact stress is a very clever builtin algorithm to ensure survival.
We are even not aware of many situations which are handled by the stress algorithms in the human brain, like accident avoidance and life saving. If you ask people who rescued someone else under totaly weird circumstances why they have done this and why they did not think about the danger, then most of them will have no answer because the survival mechanisms of the brain take control over the rational waging of feasabilities. This can also be observed on job related challenges where the either technical challenges or the competition against a coworker or a competing company pushes people over their limits. Most people set those limits very low due to unawareness of the own abilities and everything exceeding those self set limits is called stress. The stress complaint is hip in our modern society. Our ancestors would laugh heartly about those complaints.
On the other hand there are people with limited capacity of dealing with those challenges. This is often caused by personal deficits, but those deficits are not seldom a result of education in a sheltered environment where all sources of natural and healthy stress were hold off from the kids and young adults. If they are confronted later with the reality of challenges they are predestinated to fail.
tglx - I personally need challenges to be productive
"That said, I believe children should be able to read what they please and form their own oppinions instead of being "censored" into thinking like we do. If my kid wants to read "Mein Kampf", I won't forbid it to him. I will, however, make sure he has access to counterpoint arguments and will sit down to discuss it with him."
I totaly agree, but most parents are either not interested, not able to discuss this or - thats the worst case - not willing to spend any time on such topics with their kids.
In Germany we have a rather big problem today with those uncared-for kids, which come in contact with Nazi literature and Nazi supporters. They believe that crap and afterwards the parents are horror-stricken how this could happen.
I'm sure that this problem cannot be solved by banning books from public libraries, but on the other hand the teachers and responsible persons are not able to compensate for the lack of interest or dumbness of parents. So the banning is a simple way to say: I have done my best.
Sad, but true
tglx
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The regulators fight against market domination and the politicians influenced by those dominant companies want to legalize software patents.
tglx
MS convinced the LINUX folks to switch from the disgusting GPL to the business friendly BSD licence some years ago. This step was neccecary because BSD Unix was already embraced by Apple. MS replaced the few lines of code belonging to stubborn GPL devotees and gratificated the GPL renegades with a lifelong untransferable licence for the new MSIX OS.
Maybe I'm too stupid, but I do not understand why all this crap is going unfiltered through mailservers as long as the recipient exists. Most of the spam/virus crap can be filtered out by well known and effective mechanisms like Reverse lookup, Open Relay Databases, Spamassasin, Virus filters...
My mailserver gets rid of hundreds of them per day. I'm not a professional IT-Admin, I'm just running my own server for business and private usage and host some friends. Some of this things make it through from time to time, but the ratio is less than 1:1000. Look also on public mailing lists where the spam rate is impressingly low.
Things which are not available are not annoying and cannot do any damage.
Sure ISP's might argue that this costs to much, is violating freedom of information or whatever.
Costs: I'm sure that most users would be willing to pay a +$1 fee, if the spam/virus mail plague is removed or at least significantly reduced. Freedom of Information: Default setting should be spam/virus filter on. If somebody want's to get it, he must enable that feature by clicking the "I want to be spammed and infected button. I confirm that I'm responsible for the resulting damage myself. I acknowledge that I'm aware of the fact that this makes me a part of the spam/virus problem and therefor I will be prosecuted in case of damage of uninvolved parties."
Mailservers are the optimal place to fight this plague IMHO. I'm positive that most of the big email virus attacks could have been defeated this way before they even reached the critical distribution count.
"I watched the tapes of the Nuremburg experiments that showcased how people put in positions of authority could be ordered to torture and kill other people and that the majority of those tested in the study failed the "humanity" test."
The experiment he is talking about is the Milgram-experiment and was first published in 1963. The Nuremburg War Crime Law Court took place immidiately after the 2nd world war in Nuremberg.
WTF he is talking about ?
He obviosly lives in a different universe than me and believes that I'm stupid enough not to notice it.
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The 20180703 micro code release has the mitigations for a set of server class CPUs and comes with the old micro code license, which does not contain any of those restrictions. Also experimentation has shown, that the micro code variant for flushing L1D on VMENTER is not really much different slowdown wise from the software L1D flush mitigation which is used by the Linux kernel/KVM when the magic new MSR is not available.
While Joe Desktop User does not worry much about the L1TF mess, he very much is interested in the other fixes and mitigations which come with those updates.
It's a sad state of affairs, that corporates seem to be able to screw their customers in any way they see fit. Seems to be a common scheme. Just look at the Diesel disaster where now the car owners are facing driving restrictions in certain cities because their cars do not comply to the emission standards.
"These things are flying off the shelf" according to I.P. Nightly of Sony.
"4K replay is causing the 4 fans to run full speed. The ventilation slots are at the bottom of the device so it starts to take off the shelf like a copter" Nightly explained.
Hillary says it will be renamed to Mt. Edmund Hillary.
That would be outright hillarious!
There are still real phones. Just google for Motorola F3. It's a real phone w/o any multimedia crap. The only extra is an alarm clock which I consider to be useful. And it has a display which I can read w/o my glasses.
There is another goodie: the battery life time is enormous simply because it does not have that extra useless crap
tglx
> So little credit is given to Con Kolivas ...
> And all Con gets is a minor footnote.
I'm a kernel developer myself and quite surprised you see it that way.
Let's take a look at the kernel code:
1) Ingo credited Con for the "fair scheduling" approach right on the first page of kernel/sched.c. That's the
most prominent place you can get credited for working on the Linux scheduler
* 2007-04-15 Work begun on replacing all interactivity tuning with a
* fair scheduling design by Con Kolivas.
2) He credited Con for a line of code that he added to CFS from SD, in kernel/sched.c
* This idea comes from the SD scheduler of Con Kolivas:
This is the only SD code in CFS - the two designs and approaches are quite different.
3) He credited Con in Documentation/sched-design-CFS.txt
I'd like to give credit to Con Kolivas for the general approach here:
he has proven via RSDL/SD that 'fair scheduling' is possible and that
it results in better desktop scheduling. Kudos Con!
4) Finally he credited Con in the CFS commit log as well:
commit c31f2e8a42c41efa46397732656ddf48cc77593e
Author: Ingo Molnar
Date: Mon Jul 9 18:52:01 2007 +0200
sched: add CFS credits
add credits for recent major scheduler contributions:
Con Kolivas, for pioneering the fair-scheduling approach
Peter Williams, for smpnice
Mike Galbraith, for interactivity tuning of CFS
Srivatsa Vaddagiri, for group scheduling enhancements
Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar
I don't see much more places, where credit could be documented.
tglx
gwb43.com and georgewbush.com domains are marked as spam domains. Would you keep copies of spam mails ?
No wonder that all the SCO cases are lost
Harald Welte is one of the netfilter guys. Look into MAINTAINERS and CREDITS.
He owns the stuff and he knows what he is talking about. The netfilter team also accomplished the first acknowledgement of the GPL in a court in Europe.
tglx
"Someone sitting in an ivory tower might suggest that not having VBScript and ActiveX is a good thing and that visiting sites that use them is a bad idea anyway. True, but if that Web site happens to be your internal procurement Web site, not visiting isn't really an option."
For me it's an option to tell the responsible manager that you are not able to do your job due to security problems. If he does not listen, push this issue high enough and see how long it takes until a different solution is there. Security issues have a high interest today.
Moral courage is not boosting your carrier in the first sight, but it might turn out to be a valuable criteria.
tglx
Stress is a biochemical reaction of the body on exceptional situations, like threats, danger and excitement. The oldest part of the brain (reptilian brain) sends messengers which make it possible to deal with those situations. These exceptional situations are often called stress. But the messengers can also contain endorphines which let us feel good with the so called stress.
In fact stress is a very clever builtin algorithm to ensure survival.
We are even not aware of many situations which are handled by the stress algorithms in the human brain, like accident avoidance and life saving. If you ask people who rescued someone else under totaly weird circumstances why they have done this and why they did not think about the danger, then most of them will have no answer because the survival mechanisms of the brain take control over the rational waging of feasabilities. This can also be observed on job related challenges where the either technical challenges or the competition against a coworker or a competing company pushes people over their limits. Most people set those limits very low due to unawareness of the own abilities and everything exceeding those self set limits is called stress. The stress complaint is hip in our modern society. Our ancestors would laugh heartly about those complaints.
On the other hand there are people with limited capacity of dealing with those challenges. This is often caused by personal deficits, but those deficits are not seldom a result of education in a sheltered environment where all sources of natural and healthy stress were hold off from the kids and young adults. If they are confronted later with the reality of challenges they are predestinated to fail.
tglx - I personally need challenges to be productive
Interesting, I never new that their last name was Jenning.
I'm looking forward to show my grandchilds the museum of obsolete MS inventions
tglx
Disclaimer: Thank god, I'm not a laywer and can speak for myself and
nobody else
I totaly agree, but most parents are either not interested, not able to discuss this or - thats the worst case - not willing to spend any time on such topics with their kids.
In Germany we have a rather big problem today with those uncared-for kids, which come in contact with Nazi literature and Nazi supporters. They believe that crap and afterwards the parents are horror-stricken how this could happen.
I'm sure that this problem cannot be solved by banning books from public libraries, but on the other hand the teachers and responsible persons are not able to compensate for the lack of interest or dumbness of parents. So the banning is a simple way to say: I have done my best.
Sad, but true
tglxThe regulators fight against market domination and the politicians influenced by those dominant companies want to legalize software patents. tglx
After starting the patented vacuum-power can my beer froze in the can within a couple of minutes.
12 Celsius - 16,7 Celsius = Icecubes
I like frozen beer, but how can I fetch it out the damned can ?
One of my webcams is pointed to the window. So I make sure I have a little bit real world imagination while hacking away.
It just scared me to death as I noticed this fat ugly worm creeping over my window.
MS convinced the LINUX folks to switch from the disgusting GPL to the business friendly BSD licence some years ago. This step was neccecary because BSD Unix was already embraced by Apple.
MS replaced the few lines of code belonging to stubborn GPL devotees and gratificated the GPL renegades with a lifelong untransferable licence for the new MSIX OS.
I'm proud to be stubborn in this question
Maybe I'm too stupid, but I do not understand why all this crap is going unfiltered through mailservers as long as the recipient exists. Most of the spam/virus crap can be filtered out by well known and effective mechanisms like Reverse lookup, Open Relay Databases, Spamassasin, Virus filters ...
My mailserver gets rid of hundreds of them per day. I'm not a professional IT-Admin, I'm just running my own server for business and private usage and host some friends. Some of this things make it through from time to time, but the ratio is less than 1:1000. Look also on public mailing lists where the spam rate is impressingly low.
Things which are not available are not annoying and cannot do any damage.
Sure ISP's might argue that this costs to much, is violating freedom of information or whatever.
Costs: I'm sure that most users would be willing to pay a +$1 fee, if the spam/virus mail plague is removed or at least significantly reduced.
Freedom of Information: Default setting should be spam/virus filter on. If somebody want's to get it, he must enable that feature by clicking the "I want to be spammed and infected button. I confirm that I'm responsible for the resulting damage myself. I acknowledge that I'm aware of the fact that this makes me a part of the spam/virus problem and therefor I will be prosecuted in case of damage of uninvolved parties."
Mailservers are the optimal place to fight this plague IMHO. I'm positive that most of the big email virus attacks could have been defeated this way before they even reached the critical distribution count.
"I watched the tapes of the Nuremburg experiments that showcased how people put in positions of authority could be ordered to torture and kill other people and that the majority of those tested in the study failed the "humanity" test."
The experiment he is talking about is the Milgram-experiment and was first published in 1963.
The Nuremburg War Crime Law Court took place immidiately after the 2nd world war in Nuremberg.
WTF he is talking about ?
He obviosly lives in a different universe than me and believes that I'm stupid enough not to notice it.