Ok I will take the bait... I argee with your first statments that.." Evolution is a description of changes over generations. We are a part of the natural process.."
But when you say "we cannot hinder natural selection. Whatever happens is natural selection."... I would say that you are being a little bit silly. By your argument you are techicaly correct. Everthing is "natural" but there is a generaly accepted distinction made by most people that regards human activity as being outside of this sphere. Most people do not regard nuclear warheads as natural. As to not being able to hinder natural selection I would disagree. If you want I can explain but it is quite long and not interesting.
Now back to the point. You are under a misconception from Darwins original work: The Origin of the Species. The statement often quoted is "Survival of the fittest". This has been demostrated to not be the case. A more accurate statement is "Eradication of the less fit."
Now a measure of the fittness of a species can only really be measured by the fittness of its ofspring. This clearly leads to an infinte regress. Therefore our measure is always imperfect. Now we can approximate this to the number of ofspring that reach maturity and reproduce.
Furthermore the fittness of a populaiton must also be thought of. I may not "survive" but if I assist all my brothers and sisters to have children and after all we share much of the same DNA. (On AVERAGE 50% with brothers or sisters.. A brother and sister can theoreticaly be genticaly unrelated)... Anyway it gets complicated.
You state that ".. having the ability to do something is worthless if it does not lead to increased reproductive success"... my reply is so what? This does not stop it from happening. Providing it does not hinder reproductive success then it will not change.
People are under the impression that there is a "driving force to evolution". Evolution is extremely random, it is almost always based on a just good enough solution. Short term evolution depends mostly on sexual reproduction. Long term evolution depends more on mutation. what I mean to say is best described by example. Someone mentioned Sickle Cell Anemia as a beneficial mutation and solution to malaria. They are talking utter crap. Sickle Cell is probaly the best example of the downside of evolution and why we should "interfere" with our own DNA. Sickle Cell in people is an imperfect response to malaria. Now in people who are hererozygote (only one copy) they are slighlty more resistant to malaria. Therefore the number of people with the mutation will increase in the population. This is fine until two people with 1 sickle cell gene meet. Now 1 in four of their children will die very young. Not the most elegant of solutions, I think we could bo better. Given the choice for my kids I would not like to be a sickle cell carrier.
Now you say..."We evolve based on the real world with real evolutionary pressures, not some imaginary world based on ideas of strength and weakness."... It is evolutionary preasure that I am talking about. For most of our history we lived in a world where many of our children would not survive into adulthood. We now live in a world where it is unusual to lose a child. By choosing the path of doctors and medicine and drugs and sanitaiton we have removed a large part of our "selection preasure". This does not mean that we will stay the same from an evolutionary point of view. We will become "only" as fit as we need to be. We need "eradication" to remain at the same level. Many "new" gentic combinations are delterious. Most mutations that have any effect are deleterious. If you start randomly changing nucleotides in a gene you are not very likely to improve the protein, you are much more likley to mess it up. As we can not prevent mutations from occuring we must have some kind of selection.
You ask what are "dangerous genes"... well "sickle cell anemia, muscular dystrophy, various cardiomyopathies, h
My god you read too much science fiction. Let me give you this example, why do we all not have plastic surgery? We could all look "perfect", we dont because that is not important.
I am sick and tired of people always assuming that scientists are somewhere beteen Dr Mengele and Dr Frankenstein. Your idea of morality has nothing to do with science.
These people are doing this research to try and save lives and cure diseases. Anyone who says we should not do this is mad. I am an asmatic If I had the choice I would perefer not to be one.
You say "..."perfect" human for soldiers" you seem to forget that you would need to find a mother to carry the child and then raise it for 18 years and then train it! I think the training part would "make" the soldier, not the lab!
Regarding the level of gentic diversity, if we cloned every person on earth we would be left with the same genetic diversity to begin with.
Gentic diversity come from sexual reproduction, take two clones, not including genetic recombination, there are 70368744177664 geneticaly different children they could have.
Do not mistake your morality with objective "reality" a good example is organ transplantation. Go back 200 years and explain to people that because little timmys heart is no good you are going to take the heart from someone else and use it to replace timmy heart. Explain that this is fine and little timmy will be health again... If you are still alive and not burnt for being a witch.. they will probably say that what is the soul of the donor tried to come back and take over timmy, what if timmy stopped being timmy, what if the donor was still alive in his heart and was unable to enter heaven....... you get the picture.
Some people mention things like bringing Hilter back... well given a different upbringing Hitler clone would probably give Poland a miss, especialy if raised in Harvard. People often forget about upbringing as a crucial factorm, if raised in Boston he might have problems writing Mein Kampf in German!
By "super-humans" I like to think of disease free . I mean we dont all dress the same so why would we all clone the same. You have visons of 6ft tall muscular, blond haired , blue eyed people marching in file.
Personaly I want the best for my children and that is all. For exolition to progress you need "selection". Now we must have selection in a population: If you look at the Dodo it was as good as it needed to be for its island paradise. No predators, no need to fly, just get fat for the lean winter months. Along come humans and rats and bye bye Dodo. The moment we accepted modern medicine we preventeed people from dying who "naturally" would have died. For example a type 1 diabetic, his children now have an increased suceptability. Continue this for 100 genertations and we have a problem. Now we can either solve the problem before it happens or treat the person after the fact. Treament after the fact means that their children will be born with the same mutations, and will require treatment too. Now if we just repair the mutated genes in the embryo then problem solved.
It is a bit like having a well patched system or running virus removal tools once an hour to keep your system virus free.
There is one thing that most people forget is that there are huge variations in the amount of power stored in rechargable batteries. You need to look on the side to see how many mAh (milli Amp hours) the can store. For the AA size this can vary from 800 to 2300. I had a set of 1200mAh batteries and they would die after 30 shots on my Canon A20 camera. I switched to 2300mAh batteries (that cost much more) and now I can shoot more than 300 shots with the display on, without problems. Expect to pay around 15 EURO for 4 AA 2300mAh batteries.
Maybe it is just me but........... what is everyones problem in this forum?. I mean just put your phone on vibrate. Simple your phone vibrates you decide to take the call or not. If you want to take the call just leave the room and make the call. If not just hang up.
Taking the call in the teater is just a matter of the cinemas policy. Round where I live if your phone rings they come over and ask you to leave.
So far everyone is so high an mighty about this whole thing. To the parent and in defence of the grandparent post. Yes some people cannot be out of touch for 3 hours. Some people are on call 24/7. Some people have a babysitter looking after their small child at home. Some people have a elderly relative who might be in trouble.
May I suggest that the parent post "grow up", this has nothing to do with self importance. Usualy people who are "on call" 24/7 are that way because of resopnsibilty.
(On a side note people talking in cinemas is bad either into a phone or to their freinds next to them.)
> There's nothing over Russia on this map. Go find an atlas.
Too ture, there is only a little bit in yellow running along the line of the trans siberian railway, and a few spots round Moscow. The bit that I find worrying is round Holland and Belgium comapred to the rest of europe. What are they burning?
The lisence fee may come directly from the TV owners but it is collected by the government and the bbc is not the "direct" recipient. In other words the amount collected and the amount given are not usually the same!
Ok, ehough speculation. The law is specific as to what contitutes a defective screen. The standard is ISO 13406-2. Toms hardware has a good review on the law. The link is: http://graphics.tomshardware.com/display/2003 0319/ index.html
I suggest you go annd read it but if not...
In summary: There are 4 grades of LCD.....if they do not meet this standard then you have not bought an "official LCD display" and then it is defective , the official sales policy of the shop is not relevant. Just go and exchage. the rest is toms hardware quotes:
"Class 1, the highest, allows no defects at all. Class 4, the lowest, allows up to 262!"
If they do not specify, the monitor is Class 1 by default and you can have it changed at the smallest pixel defect.
The standard distinguishes four types of defective pixel.
* Type 1: number of always-lit pixels.
* Type 2: number of always-unlit pixels.
* Type 3: other defects, particularly on sub-pixels and the RGB cells making up pixels (lit or unlit). This means red, green and blue pixels lit the whole time. Experience shows that this is undoubtedly the most common defect.
For 15" LCD Panels Native resolution is 1024 x 768 pixels, a total of 786,432 pixels.
Class 1 panels: this is the easiest - no pixel defects are allowed.
Class 2 panels are more complicated.
* Type 1: Lit pixels allowed = 2 x 786,432 / 1,000,000 = 1.57.
* Type 2: Unlit pixels allowed = 2 x 786,432 / 1,000,000 = 1.57.
* Type 3: Red, green or blue pixels allowed = 5 x 786,432 / 1,000,000 = 3.93.
If you refer to the standard, 2 always-lit pixels is >1.57. So this is over the top and the warranty comes into play. 15" ISO 13406-2-compliant panels may not allow more than: Type 1 + Type 2 + Type 3 = 5 defective pixels altogether, with a maximum of one lit, one unlit and three red, green or blue pixels.
17" Panels:
This is calculated the same way as for the 15". Resolution = 1280 x 1024 = 1,310,720 pixels.
Class 1 panels: no pixel defects are allowed.
Class 2 panels:
* Type 1: Unlit pixels allowed = 2 x 1,310,720 / 1,000,000 = 2.62.
* Type 2: Lit pixels = 2 x 1,310,720 / 1,000,000 = 2.62.
* Type 3: Red, green or blue pixels allowed = 5 x 1,310,720 / 1,000,000 = 6.55.
If you refer to the standard, two always-lit pixels is 3>2.62. So, this is over the limit and the warranty comes into play.
17" ISO 13406-2-compliant panels may not allow more than: Type 1 + Type 2 + Type 3 = 10 defective pixels altogether, with a maximum of two lit, two unlit and six red, green or blue pixels.
>Then, when the machine gets sluggish and recalcitrant, I reboot. But maybe it's just the network admin spying on my machine or something that I don't even see. Damfino.
No this is perfectly normal. Move along now sir. Nothing to see here. Move along please.
You are missing the point. This is "about" trademarks. In that this is why Apple and Apple had the legal battle and then agreed on a deal between them. The deal was you stay out of my bussiness and I will stay out of yours.
The issue now is breach of contract. As the contracts are not public we are basing what we say on 2nd hand info. From the consensus it seems that Apple (Mac) is on the defesive. As this is unusual for them, my guess is that they know that they have no case and are going to have to capitulate. They are basicaly at the mercy of Apple (music) who are going to take them to the cleaners.
Apple (music) seems to hold all the cards. If this were a normal case they would be entitled to all the profits from Apple (mac) plus comensation plus the music related bussiness. (iPOD, iTMS etc).
On a side note you say" Incidentally, if Apple Corps. wanted to make computers and call them "The Beatle Computer," with no Apple logo on it, I'm sure that would be fine. We'll see if the courts agree."....I am not sure if the deal between Apple and Apple is reciprocal. Did apple (music) agree to stay out of the computer bussiness or not! If they did then no matter what they call it the would have to stay out.
...I couldnt agree more. Apple(Mac) should be a man and admit they are in the wrong. There is no way that they can win this. They did a deal that says i n effect..... We shall divide the trademark APPLE, you stay out of computers and we will stay out of the music biz.
Imagine if Apple(music) decided they wanted to make computers and sell them under the apple brand name!
As I come form the eastern side of the Atlantic Ocean (Europe) I find it difficult to understand what the fuss is about. The headline says"...whether Moore's movie presents truth or propaganda, one has to wonder whether airing such a controvercial movie on the eve of an election helps or hurts the political process by influencing the vote."
The show 9/11 clearly states a point of view(In this case from Moore), dont like it make your own film. And so what , you have the freedom of speech and he has the right to use it. As regards the idea of truth. Are we to assume that all other shows, that night, depict the "truth".
Maybe because I come from a country where political debate is common and the people represented by a spectrum of views, I find this kind of pro/anti arguments a little strange.
The communist party says one thing (and most people laugh) the center-left says another, the center-right another. Nobody would expect a film to depict the Truth(Tm). Only with actual news programs are facts expected to be proved(editorial and comments are not).
I always get the impression form the US that they consider themselves to be the world experts on Democracy. To be quite honest I see little to be impressed about.
I have been using skype ans more importantly skypeout (internet to telephone) and I have to say I love it. The only drawback is the CPU required I think they are using some powerful compression. As regards the bandwidth it is not much , my father uses it on a 56K dial up without problems.
For me the best part is the savings. From my phone to call family in the Czech Republic , I used ot pay 35-45 "euro" cents ($0.4-$0.5) , I live in a country without cheap telecoms carriers. For me this is a blessing now I pay 2.7 cents per min.
I really must congratulate them . Many people I know use their service for long distance calls..also for the financial side.
what makes you think "using the internet" equates to "having a server completely open to the public with no backup processes"? in the UK you can do your taxes online, I guess if they get DDOS'd no one will have to pay?.....Hey thanks for the tip!
Sure we like our beer in pints for reasons of tradition and because to move to half liters would be a reduction in size and there would be a revolution.
There is no doubt that there are many advantages to the metric system and so the goverment made the choice to change. To use money with Pounds, shillings, pennies..etc was insane. Many people argued that it was no problem for them but there is no doubt that the metric syste is better.
In the same way we text message (SMS) using our thumbs on numeric keypads on our phones but I can honestly say that it sucks and I will be very unhappy with a status quo.
Bring on new technology.. if not for you then for the kids. They will have no problem with any of it.
How the hell does it know what to hoover up and what not to? I mean I a messy person and a bit lazy so this would be ideal for me. BUT if it is going to suck up all my money and keys and socks (that I store on the floor) then that would "suck"!
NO!!! you are missing the point your new TV EULA only allows one designated person to watch the TV. If you want more people to watch the TV at the same time you need to purchace additional cards. The DMCA will put you in prison forever if you let others view your TV.
Community is like a final release candidate. They consider is stable enought to release but not to sell. All the bugfixes from community go into the official release. The official is the one in the boxes in the shops and is considered stable.
"I'm a conservative Republican...".... move along now sir! There nothing here for you!
***disclaimer: you have the right to vote for whoever you want.....democracy...one man one vote....equality...representation...my right to take the piss.***
But seriously , I am glad that you have voted for the person whom you respect and wish to lead you. I have always disliked the concept of a political party. I think democracy would work much better without them. Then we could spend much more time choosing people to represent us upon their own merits. Then these people could sit down and debate issues on a case by case basis. (Yes I may be an idealist but there is nothing wrong with aiming high.) Instead I see most political debates featuring two entrenched groups. The system is geared too much to the concept that only one side is victorious. Surely they should be trying to find solutions. The current political system is a bad example to our children of how people should behave.
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Ok I will take the bait... I argee with your first statments that.." Evolution is a description of changes over generations. We are a part of the natural process.."
... I would say that you are being a little bit silly. By your argument you are techicaly correct. Everthing is "natural" but there is a generaly accepted distinction made by most people that regards human activity as being outside of this sphere. Most people do not regard nuclear warheads as natural. As to not being able to hinder natural selection I would disagree. If you want I can explain but it is quite long and not interesting.
... It is evolutionary preasure that I am talking about. For most of our history we lived in a world where many of our children would not survive into adulthood. We now live in a world where it is unusual to lose a child. By choosing the path of doctors and medicine and drugs and sanitaiton we have removed a large part of our "selection preasure". This does not mean that we will stay the same from an evolutionary point of view. We will become "only" as fit as we need to be. We need "eradication" to remain at the same level. Many "new" gentic combinations are delterious. Most mutations that have any effect are deleterious. If you start randomly changing nucleotides in a gene you are not very likely to improve the protein, you are much more likley to mess it up. As we can not prevent mutations from occuring we must have some kind of selection.
But when you say "we cannot hinder natural selection. Whatever happens is natural selection."
Now back to the point. You are under a misconception from Darwins original work: The Origin of the Species. The statement often quoted is "Survival of the fittest". This has been demostrated to not be the case. A more accurate statement is "Eradication of the less fit."
Now a measure of the fittness of a species can only really be measured by the fittness of its ofspring. This clearly leads to an infinte regress. Therefore our measure is always imperfect. Now we can approximate this to the number of ofspring that reach maturity and reproduce.
Furthermore the fittness of a populaiton must also be thought of. I may not "survive" but if I assist all my brothers and sisters to have children and after all we share much of the same DNA. (On AVERAGE 50% with brothers or sisters.. A brother and sister can theoreticaly be genticaly unrelated)... Anyway it gets complicated.
You state that
".. having the ability to do something is worthless if it does not lead to increased reproductive success"... my reply is so what? This does not stop it from happening. Providing it does not hinder reproductive success then it will not change.
People are under the impression that there is a "driving force to evolution". Evolution is extremely random, it is almost always based on a just good enough solution. Short term evolution depends mostly on sexual reproduction. Long term evolution depends more on mutation. what I mean to say is best described by example. Someone mentioned Sickle Cell Anemia as a beneficial mutation and solution to malaria. They are talking utter crap. Sickle Cell is probaly the best example of the downside of evolution and why we should "interfere" with our own DNA. Sickle Cell in people is an imperfect response to malaria. Now in people who are hererozygote (only one copy) they are slighlty more resistant to malaria. Therefore the number of people with the mutation will increase in the population. This is fine until two people with 1 sickle cell gene meet. Now 1 in four of their children will die very young. Not the most elegant of solutions, I think we could bo better. Given the choice for my kids I would not like to be a sickle cell carrier.
Now you say..."We evolve based on the real world with real evolutionary pressures, not some imaginary world based on ideas of strength and weakness."
You ask what are "dangerous genes"... well "sickle cell anemia, muscular dystrophy, various cardiomyopathies, h
My god you read too much science fiction. Let me give you this example, why do we all not have plastic surgery? We could all look "perfect", we dont because that is not important.
.. If you are still alive and not burnt for being a witch.. they will probably say that what is the soul of the donor tried to come back and take over timmy, what if timmy stopped being timmy, what if the donor was still alive in his heart and was unable to enter heaven....... you get the picture.
I am sick and tired of people always assuming that scientists are somewhere beteen Dr Mengele and Dr Frankenstein. Your idea of morality has nothing to do with science.
These people are doing this research to try and save lives and cure diseases. Anyone who says we should not do this is mad. I am an asmatic If I had the choice I would perefer not to be one.
You say "..."perfect" human for soldiers" you seem to forget that you would need to find a mother to carry the child and then raise it for 18 years and then train it! I think the training part would "make" the soldier, not the lab!
Regarding the level of gentic diversity, if we cloned every person on earth we would be left with the same genetic diversity to begin with.
Gentic diversity come from sexual reproduction, take two clones, not including genetic recombination, there are 70368744177664 geneticaly different children they could have.
Do not mistake your morality with objective "reality" a good example is organ transplantation. Go back 200 years and explain to people that because little timmys heart is no good you are going to take the heart from someone else and use it to replace timmy heart. Explain that this is fine and little timmy will be health again.
Some people mention things like bringing Hilter back... well given a different upbringing Hitler clone would probably give Poland a miss, especialy if raised in Harvard. People often forget about upbringing as a crucial factorm, if raised in Boston he might have problems writing Mein Kampf in German!
By "super-humans" I like to think of disease free . I mean we dont all dress the same so why would we all clone the same. You have visons of 6ft tall muscular, blond haired , blue eyed people marching in file.
Personaly I want the best for my children and that is all. For exolition to progress you need "selection". Now we must have selection in a population: If you look at the Dodo it was as good as it needed to be for its island paradise. No predators, no need to fly, just get fat for the lean winter months. Along come humans and rats and bye bye Dodo. The moment we accepted modern medicine we preventeed people from dying who "naturally" would have died. For example a type 1 diabetic, his children now have an increased suceptability. Continue this for 100 genertations and we have a problem. Now we can either solve the problem before it happens or treat the person after the fact. Treament after the fact means that their children will be born with the same mutations, and will require treatment too. Now if we just repair the mutated genes in the embryo then problem solved.
It is a bit like having a well patched system or running virus removal tools once an hour to keep your system virus free.
There is one thing that most people forget is that there are huge variations in the amount of power stored in rechargable batteries. You need to look on the side to see how many mAh (milli Amp hours) the can store. For the AA size this can vary from 800 to 2300. I had a set of 1200mAh batteries and they would die after 30 shots on my Canon A20 camera. I switched to 2300mAh batteries (that cost much more) and now I can shoot more than 300 shots with the display on, without problems. Expect to pay around 15 EURO for 4 AA 2300mAh batteries.
Maybe it is just me but ........... what is everyones problem in this forum?. I mean just put your phone on vibrate. Simple your phone vibrates you decide to take the call or not. If you want to take the call just leave the room and make the call. If not just hang up.
Taking the call in the teater is just a matter of the cinemas policy. Round where I live if your phone rings they come over and ask you to leave.
So far everyone is so high an mighty about this whole thing. To the parent and in defence of the grandparent post. Yes some people cannot be out of touch for 3 hours. Some people are on call 24/7. Some people have a babysitter looking after their small child at home. Some people have a elderly relative who might be in trouble.
May I suggest that the parent post "grow up", this has nothing to do with self importance. Usualy people who are "on call" 24/7 are that way because of resopnsibilty.
(On a side note people talking in cinemas is bad either into a phone or to their freinds next to them.)
> There's nothing over Russia on this map. Go find an atlas.
Too ture, there is only a little bit in yellow running along the line of the trans siberian railway, and a few spots round Moscow. The bit that I find worrying is round Holland and Belgium comapred to the rest of europe. What are they burning?
The lisence fee may come directly from the TV owners but it is collected by the government and the bbc is not the "direct" recipient. In other words the amount collected and the amount given are not usually the same!
Therefore it is like any other tax!
Im not sure that I understand you here:
> 'Then' and 'than' used to be the same word (admittedly with an a rather than an e).
So you mean 'Than' and 'than'. (Maybe I missed the point)
To me the words can not be confused. They are spelt differently and have several distinct and different meanings.
Example:
"A is better than B"
"Then we should do this"
sorry aobut that the real link is,
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http://www.tomshardware.com/display/20030319/in
Ok, ehough speculation. The law is specific as to what contitutes a defective screen. The standard is ISO 13406-2. Toms hardware has a good review on the law. The link is:3 0319/ index.html
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/display/200
I suggest you go annd read it but if not...
In summary: There are 4 grades of LCD.....if they do not meet this standard then you have not bought an "official LCD display" and then it is defective , the official sales policy of the shop is not relevant. Just go and exchage. the rest is toms hardware quotes:
"Class 1, the highest, allows no defects at all. Class 4, the lowest, allows up to 262!"
If they do not specify, the monitor is Class 1 by default and you can have it changed at the smallest pixel defect.
The standard distinguishes four types of defective pixel.
* Type 1: number of always-lit pixels.
* Type 2: number of always-unlit pixels.
* Type 3: other defects, particularly on sub-pixels and the RGB cells making up pixels (lit or unlit). This means red, green and blue pixels lit the whole time. Experience shows that this is undoubtedly the most common defect.
For 15" LCD Panels
Native resolution is 1024 x 768 pixels, a total of 786,432 pixels.
Class 1 panels: this is the easiest - no pixel defects are allowed.
Class 2 panels are more complicated.
* Type 1: Lit pixels allowed = 2 x 786,432 / 1,000,000 = 1.57.
* Type 2: Unlit pixels allowed = 2 x 786,432 / 1,000,000 = 1.57.
* Type 3: Red, green or blue pixels allowed = 5 x 786,432 / 1,000,000 = 3.93.
If you refer to the standard, 2 always-lit pixels is >1.57. So this is over the top and the warranty comes into play. 15" ISO 13406-2-compliant panels may not allow more than: Type 1 + Type 2 + Type 3 = 5 defective pixels altogether, with a maximum of one lit, one unlit and three red, green or blue pixels.
17" Panels:
This is calculated the same way as for the 15".
Resolution = 1280 x 1024 = 1,310,720 pixels.
Class 1 panels: no pixel defects are allowed.
Class 2 panels:
* Type 1: Unlit pixels allowed = 2 x 1,310,720 / 1,000,000 = 2.62.
* Type 2: Lit pixels = 2 x 1,310,720 / 1,000,000 = 2.62.
* Type 3: Red, green or blue pixels allowed = 5 x 1,310,720 / 1,000,000 = 6.55.
If you refer to the standard, two always-lit pixels is 3>2.62. So, this is over the limit and the warranty comes into play.
17" ISO 13406-2-compliant panels may not allow more than: Type 1 + Type 2 + Type 3 = 10 defective pixels altogether, with a maximum of two lit, two unlit and six red, green or blue pixels.
>Then, when the machine gets sluggish and recalcitrant, I reboot. But maybe it's just the network admin spying on my machine or something that I don't even see. Damfino.
No this is perfectly normal. Move along now sir. Nothing to see here. Move along please.
You are missing the point. This is "about" trademarks. In that this is why Apple and Apple had the legal battle and then agreed on a deal between them. The deal was you stay out of my bussiness and I will stay out of yours.
....I am not sure if the deal between Apple and Apple is reciprocal. Did apple (music) agree to stay out of the computer bussiness or not! If they did then no matter what they call it the would have to stay out.
The issue now is breach of contract. As the contracts are not public we are basing what we say on 2nd hand info. From the consensus it seems that Apple (Mac) is on the defesive. As this is unusual for them, my guess is that they know that they have no case and are going to have to capitulate. They are basicaly at the mercy of Apple (music) who are going to take them to the cleaners.
Apple (music) seems to hold all the cards. If this were a normal case they would be entitled to all the profits from Apple (mac) plus comensation plus the music related bussiness. (iPOD, iTMS etc).
On a side note you say" Incidentally, if Apple Corps. wanted to make computers and call them "The Beatle Computer," with no Apple logo on it, I'm sure that would be fine. We'll see if the courts agree."
...I couldnt agree more. Apple(Mac) should be a man and admit they are in the wrong. There is no way that they can win this. They did a deal that says i n effect..... We shall divide the trademark APPLE, you stay out of computers and we will stay out of the music biz.
Imagine if Apple(music) decided they wanted to make computers and sell them under the apple brand name!
As I come form the eastern side of the Atlantic Ocean (Europe) I find it difficult to understand what the fuss is about. The headline says"...whether Moore's movie presents truth or propaganda, one has to wonder whether airing such a controvercial movie on the eve of an election helps or hurts the political process by influencing the vote."
The show 9/11 clearly states a point of view(In this case from Moore), dont like it make your own film. And so what , you have the freedom of speech and he has the right to use it. As regards the idea of truth. Are we to assume that all other shows, that night, depict the "truth".
Maybe because I come from a country where political debate is common and the people represented by a spectrum of views, I find this kind of pro/anti arguments a little strange.
The communist party says one thing (and most people laugh) the center-left says another, the center-right another. Nobody would expect a film to depict the Truth(Tm). Only with actual news programs are facts expected to be proved(editorial and comments are not).
I always get the impression form the US that they consider themselves to be the world experts on Democracy. To be quite honest I see little to be impressed about.
I have been using skype ans more importantly skypeout (internet to telephone) and I have to say I love it. The only drawback is the CPU required I think they are using some powerful compression. As regards the bandwidth it is not much , my father uses it on a 56K dial up without problems.
For me the best part is the savings. From my phone to call family in the Czech Republic , I used ot pay 35-45 "euro" cents ($0.4-$0.5) , I live in a country without cheap telecoms carriers. For me this is a blessing now I pay 2.7 cents per min.
I really must congratulate them . Many people I know use their service for long distance calls..also for the financial side.
Mine was even worse... it would do this even when in silent mode. .... Imagine middle of meeting with big boss BEEP ..........BEEP... bastards.
what makes you think "using the internet" equates to "having a server completely open to the public with no backup processes"? in the UK you can do your taxes online, I guess if they get DDOS'd no one will have to pay? .....Hey thanks for the tip!
"Might a DDOS attack on the Fed's computers bring down the entire banking system?" .........yes most probably!!
....er in Britain we are mostly metric.
Sure we like our beer in pints for reasons of tradition and because to move to half liters would be a reduction in size and there would be a revolution.
There is no doubt that there are many advantages to the metric system and so the goverment made the choice to change. To use money with Pounds, shillings, pennies..etc was insane. Many people argued that it was no problem for them but there is no doubt that the metric syste is better.
In the same way we text message (SMS) using our thumbs on numeric keypads on our phones but I can honestly say that it sucks and I will be very unhappy with a status quo.
Bring on new technology.. if not for you then for the kids. They will have no problem with any of it.
Please remember
Can you sue for pretty much anything......yes!
Will you win..... No!
How the hell does it know what to hoover up and what not to?
I mean I a messy person and a bit lazy so this would be ideal for me. BUT if it is going to suck up all my money and keys and socks (that I store on the floor) then that would "suck"!
NO!!! you are missing the point your new TV EULA only allows one designated person to watch the TV. If you want more people to watch the TV at the same time you need to purchace additional cards. The DMCA will put you in prison forever if you let others view your TV.
Freedom is slavery.
Community is like a final release candidate. They consider is stable enought to release but not to sell. All the bugfixes from community go into the official release. The official is the one in the boxes in the shops and is considered stable.
One million *IAA burners. ...What!.. why does nobody tell me these things! ..One billion *IAA burners
They are going to die! The only good point is that it will be quick!
"I'm a conservative Republican..." .... move along now sir! There nothing here for you!
***disclaimer: you have the right to vote for whoever you want.....democracy...one man one vote....equality...representation...my right to take the piss.***
But seriously , I am glad that you have voted for the person whom you respect and wish to lead you. I have always disliked the concept of a political party. I think democracy would work much better without them. Then we could spend much more time choosing people to represent us upon their own merits. Then these people could sit down and debate issues on a case by case basis. (Yes I may be an idealist but there is nothing wrong with aiming high.) Instead I see most political debates featuring two entrenched groups. The system is geared too much to the concept that only one side is victorious. Surely they should be trying to find solutions. The current political system is a bad example to our children of how people should behave.