Yes I would consider that part of the hacking life style . Trying to understand everything around you , maybe even doing it your self is part of the "life style" . Most hackers I know (traditional use) are very keen with not only computers and electronics , but chemistry (read explosives) , metalworking , and a few are interested in nature (they even go out while the "day star" is still outside).
The hacking life style is really one about knowledge and understanding so any activity/tool (reasonable priced of course) you can expect a hacker to have at least a passing interest in (and some times more so than one) .
That being said , is this worthy of a slashdot article?
just goes to show you the danjour of making your products before the IEEE spec is released . It screwed up novell , and now it looks like it screwed up the wireless companies . Are we going to have 802.11g "54mbs variety" or draft 2 version etc. Anyw ays like most people say this certainly will push me away from 802.11g gear , I can get cheap 802.11b access points which are only half the speed , with 54mbs it was close enough to "lan speed" for me to consider the extra $100 , but now its 802.11b all the way:-)
But for my American counterparts I feel for you . From the sounds of it logging anything that happens even on your own computer could be illegal . You can probably get around this by including with an "unathorized access prohibitted . Subject to the terms and conditions of [website]" , where website address is a huge disclamer including "all activities may be logged" . for when the person attempts to use any services simply set this as the motd and be done withit .
Any ways I am Not a lawyer so if you do this then still get sued to bad for you , get your legal advice not from slashdot but from a lawyer.
P.S.
Any thing like this in Canada?
There arugment is that since they didnt authorize the putting in of the IP into the code that they still own it wheather on not it has been distributed on the GPL basis . This is true . It does not matter that they distributed the code because they did so without knowning *supposedly* that it was in there . However once they found out they should have stopped sales of there own linux product immeditly otherwise they are knownlingly distributing there code under the GPL and have implied concent by doing so(IMHO IANAL,etc.) . However they seem to (given the quality of there PR department) shifted all the PR budget to the legal budget so they can probably weasly there way out of it . The one thing that I think is missing "show me the code" . Show me the code that violates your IP , untill then I dont care about anything you have to say (to sco)
Sorry about that , ment to hit the preview but hit submit instead.
In my city,ottawa , we sort of have this . For $995CAD/month (http://www.telecomottawa.com/english/services/bis.htm the city owned power companies broadband division will deliver 1m through fiber to almost any where in the city. The bandwith is 100% UU net and they provide a full commit for the 1 mb. I can then burst 10mb if no one else is using it . The only problem from my pov is that I can get 3.5m (admitedly not burst 10 service) for $90/mo over dsl.If the city could bring there prices down a bit (by not using 100% UUnet that stuff is pricy!) and going for a mix of bell nexxia , uunet , and posible a connection to onet I would probably connect . As it stands I can rent good office space , get two 3.5m connections for cheaper than my city . Now If any one elses city provides broadband I would love to know what bandwith providers they use and how much they charge .
This is probably a good thing. From the article it sounds like quite a few people who "were in it for the money" are switching out into other fields and those that stay are broadning there horizions . Now I have nothing against some one being in it for the money but one thing which I notice a lot with computer science people is that seems to be there area of expertiese . If we can more people who understand computer science and other disciplines as well this will be greate for both disciplines .
That being said some people who would really like to do computers are possibly finding them selves pushed out because they dont have enough money to do a double majour and need some way to pay of the student debt when the gradute . Hopefully once they have more money they will come back as mature students but we may have lost some very good programmers this way as well.
I happen to have a language learning disability . This makes it rather diffucult for me to spell words properly which I dont use very very commonly. With code its a slightly different story . There arent all that many different functions I'll use in one program , and if I speel them incorrectly it the compiler / interperter / assembler (depending on what language) will give me an error and I look up how to spell it . While I could also do this with slashdot posts , if people can still understand what I wrote thats good enough me.
I know a main frames adminstrator . Depending on what you mean by main frames , the newer unix based ones I wouldnt mind adminstering . The problem is that there are a whole wack of old crappy mainframes which are running legacy applications that very few people understanding sitting around . Now if there was somewhere to actually learn about how to handel those I would probably take the course ; but as it stands now most info systems degrees dont deel much with legacy applications . Maybe a college degree in legacy code / computing in addition to a BSC would be interesting (of course colleges would have to higher old qualified people) .
An alternative would be "just read the manual" ; however if I "just read the manual" most places wont consider me comptenet (nor should they there are tones of undocumented "features") . What is really needed (if we are going to keep on using this legacy systems without relapcing them) is for a tech publisher to gather up a bunch of mainframe adminstrators and document all the undocument features in the older generation (and newer ones as well) of mainframes .
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This sounds really cool . I my self write quite a few programs (all small time) if I could offload some of the bandwith requirements for updates amoung my users I could "push" an update every time that it is need rather than having them poll a central server and grab the file or bit torren (as it is currently) . It still remains to see just how stable this network is going to be but if it works it sounds fairly cool . The fact that it allready has signing built in for the chanel controller this saves me a bit of time . All in all good job!
Of course there will be illegetimate uses (the 24/7 hard core porn channell comes to mind) but this looks like that it could be used by small companies (like me) to keep the updates flowing in a decentralized fashion to our customers/user without sucking up all our bandwith.
you may wish to fix the link on the main page. Thats ok news for the blogs , but I would still like to see you be able to exclude blogs from your search results (I dont really want to know what a couple thousand slashdotters think about everthing:-)
spammers do not deserve privacy . Once they decided to take our contact information and contact us without our concent they have given up any sense of privacy for the receiver of the spam and people need to be able to contact these spammers to :
a) give them a peice of there mind
b) ask to be removed from the spamming list (wont work)
c) sue them and get them to stop sending spam
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Yes I would consider that part of the hacking life style . Trying to understand everything around you , maybe even doing it your self is part of the "life style" . Most hackers I know (traditional use) are very keen with not only computers and electronics , but chemistry (read explosives) , metalworking , and a few are interested in nature (they even go out while the "day star" is still outside). The hacking life style is really one about knowledge and understanding so any activity/tool (reasonable priced of course) you can expect a hacker to have at least a passing interest in (and some times more so than one) . That being said , is this worthy of a slashdot article?
just goes to show you the danjour of making your products before the IEEE spec is released . It screwed up novell , and now it looks like it screwed up the wireless companies . Are we going to have 802.11g "54mbs variety" or draft 2 version etc. Anyw ays like most people say this certainly will push me away from 802.11g gear , I can get cheap 802.11b access points which are only half the speed , with 54mbs it was close enough to "lan speed" for me to consider the extra $100 , but now its 802.11b all the way :-)
But for my American counterparts I feel for you . From the sounds of it logging anything that happens even on your own computer could be illegal . You can probably get around this by including with an "unathorized access prohibitted . Subject to the terms and conditions of [website]" , where website address is a huge disclamer including "all activities may be logged" . for when the person attempts to use any services simply set this as the motd and be done withit . Any ways I am Not a lawyer so if you do this then still get sued to bad for you , get your legal advice not from slashdot but from a lawyer. P.S. Any thing like this in Canada?
There arugment is that since they didnt authorize the putting in of the IP into the code that they still own it wheather on not it has been distributed on the GPL basis . This is true . It does not matter that they distributed the code because they did so without knowning *supposedly* that it was in there . However once they found out they should have stopped sales of there own linux product immeditly otherwise they are knownlingly distributing there code under the GPL and have implied concent by doing so(IMHO IANAL ,etc.) . However they seem to (given the quality of there PR department) shifted all the PR budget to the legal budget so they can probably weasly there way out of it . The one thing that I think is missing "show me the code" . Show me the code that violates your IP , untill then I dont care about anything you have to say (to sco)
Sorry about that , ment to hit the preview but hit submit instead. In my city ,ottawa , we sort of have this . For $995CAD/month (http://www.telecomottawa.com/english/services/bis .htm the city owned power companies broadband division will deliver 1m through fiber to almost any where in the city. The bandwith is 100% UU net and they provide a full commit for the 1 mb. I can then burst 10mb if no one else is using it . The only problem from my pov is that I can get 3.5m (admitedly not burst 10 service) for $90/mo over dsl .If the city could bring there prices down a bit (by not using 100% UUnet that stuff is pricy!) and going for a mix of bell nexxia , uunet , and posible a connection to onet I would probably connect . As it stands I can rent good office space , get two 3.5m connections for cheaper than my city . Now If any one elses city provides broadband I would love to know what bandwith providers they use and how much they charge .
In my city ,ottawa , we sort of have this . For $995CAD/month ( the city owned power companies broadband division will deliver 1m through fiber to almost any where in the city. The bandwith is 100% UU net and they provide a full commit for the 1 mb. I can then burst 10mb if no one else is using it . The only problem from my pov is that I can get 3.5m (admitedly not burst 10 service) for $90/mo over dsl .If the city could bring there prices down a bit (by not using 100% UUnet that stuff is pricy!) and going for a mix of bell nexxia , uunet , and posible a connection to onet I would probably connect . As it stands I can rent good office space , get two 3.5m connections for cheaper than my city . Now If any one elses city provides broadband I would love to know what bandwith providers they use and how much they charge .
This is probably a good thing. From the article it sounds like quite a few people who "were in it for the money" are switching out into other fields and those that stay are broadning there horizions . Now I have nothing against some one being in it for the money but one thing which I notice a lot with computer science people is that seems to be there area of expertiese . If we can more people who understand computer science and other disciplines as well this will be greate for both disciplines . That being said some people who would really like to do computers are possibly finding them selves pushed out because they dont have enough money to do a double majour and need some way to pay of the student debt when the gradute . Hopefully once they have more money they will come back as mature students but we may have lost some very good programmers this way as well.
I happen to have a language learning disability . This makes it rather diffucult for me to spell words properly which I dont use very very commonly. With code its a slightly different story . There arent all that many different functions I'll use in one program , and if I speel them incorrectly it the compiler / interperter / assembler (depending on what language) will give me an error and I look up how to spell it . While I could also do this with slashdot posts , if people can still understand what I wrote thats good enough me.
I know a main frames adminstrator . Depending on what you mean by main frames , the newer unix based ones I wouldnt mind adminstering . The problem is that there are a whole wack of old crappy mainframes which are running legacy applications that very few people understanding sitting around . Now if there was somewhere to actually learn about how to handel those I would probably take the course ; but as it stands now most info systems degrees dont deel much with legacy applications . Maybe a college degree in legacy code / computing in addition to a BSC would be interesting (of course colleges would have to higher old qualified people) . An alternative would be "just read the manual" ; however if I "just read the manual" most places wont consider me comptenet (nor should they there are tones of undocumented "features") . What is really needed (if we are going to keep on using this legacy systems without relapcing them) is for a tech publisher to gather up a bunch of mainframe adminstrators and document all the undocument features in the older generation (and newer ones as well) of mainframes .
This sounds really cool . I my self write quite a few programs (all small time) if I could offload some of the bandwith requirements for updates amoung my users I could "push" an update every time that it is need rather than having them poll a central server and grab the file or bit torren (as it is currently) . It still remains to see just how stable this network is going to be but if it works it sounds fairly cool . The fact that it allready has signing built in for the chanel controller this saves me a bit of time . All in all good job! Of course there will be illegetimate uses (the 24/7 hard core porn channell comes to mind) but this looks like that it could be used by small companies (like me) to keep the updates flowing in a decentralized fashion to our customers/user without sucking up all our bandwith.
you may wish to fix the link on the main page. Thats ok news for the blogs , but I would still like to see you be able to exclude blogs from your search results (I dont really want to know what a couple thousand slashdotters think about everthing :-)
spammers do not deserve privacy . Once they decided to take our contact information and contact us without our concent they have given up any sense of privacy for the receiver of the spam and people need to be able to contact these spammers to : a) give them a peice of there mind b) ask to be removed from the spamming list (wont work) c) sue them and get them to stop sending spam