ASP files are often the cause of these types of breakages
ASP pages render the HTML that they are programmed to render. Nothing more or less, really. Put blame where blame is due. (ASP *IS* total shit, but it not at fault here)
ASP files are often the cause of these types of breakages, and it certainly is in this case (type mismatch: cint that isn't mentioned in IE) but I'm sure this isn't the only one.
Um, that's called JavaScript. ASP only spits out the JavaScript that it is programmed to output. Just like the HTML. IE/Netscape implementations of JavaScript differ. If you want to place blame here split it up between your brain dead co-workers and the IE JavaScript parser. Not ASP. (ASP is *REALLY* crap, though)
So, you can call bullshit if you like, but you're wrong.
I was thinking of hiring interns for some slave labor next summer. I really need to rethink that.
Improperly designed asp sites send out crap that doesn't even approximate standards
Um, so will pretty much everything else out there when you design the thing improperly. Blame to improper design.
firefox doesn't know how to ignore the crap and just render the IIS built garbage.
IIS doesn't build anything. It simply runs an ISAPI filter for known extensions (like.asp) and then passes the text of the page to the ASP interpreter which just programmatically outputs whatever crap the programmers programmed it to output and IIS serves this up to the client.
Good thing you are in school and getting OJT, as you really have a lot to learn. Here is the first lesson for you: "Garbage in, Garbage out".
WinFS is working. Search is not. MMMmm, seems like you don't know enough about what WinFS actually is and is not to understand that both of those statements can be quite true. Of course I can understand that if the only thing you think WinFS is for/useful for is for searching for files.
Fact is that your original statement was and continues to be wrong.
Search is broken in build 4074, but WinFS is still running just fine. If you think that searching on metadata is all that WinFS is about you should go an read up on it a bit more.
Actually WinFS is running on this machine right this second, inside of a virtual machine running a longhorn beta. You should aquaint yourself with the facts before slashbotting.
The mint only makes coin. Better to ask the BEP for paper money.
And here are some stupid cliff (of cheers fame) fun facts:
The mint and BEP are the only two goverment entities that consistantly make money. They create the stuff and they basically 'sell' it at face value. The margins on coin are low, but they still make a mint. nyuck nyuck.
The United States Postal Service sell advertising. Put in a change of address recently and the confirmation letter's envelope from them contained serveral ad inserts targeted at people who are moving from some big businesses you've probably heard of. I was a bit taken aback.
You said he was only interested in accumulating wealth and power. I call bullshit.
And you're right about it not costing as much. Every dollar he gives lets him not pay the government 35 cents in tax. But do the math, he's still coming out 65 cents behind in this deal.
Let's face it, Bill Gates is a filthy liberal. His mother sat on the board of the United Way (which is pretty much how he was golden at IBM, John Akers knew her personally), and his dad is in favor of mega high estate taxes. Given the amount of money his foundation donates makes it clear that the fruit does not fall far from the tree.
Please. The man has given more money to charity than you'll ever see in your life. And before you try to tell me how good it is for his taxes ask yourself if you really think he managed to drop himself into a lower tax bracket because of it.
That's all a matter of perspective I suppose. So I only need one license per server for ASP.NET and one license per server for any add-on components I want to use.
No. You only need a license for the server itself. If you have a licensed installation of whatever running you can install ASP.NET. No need to purchase a license. Your developers can all install ASP.NET on their personal machines. No need to have anything but an OS to install it on.
Hrm, last time I checked the entire System.Graphics namespace was part of the framework and not an add-on that costs money. It's quite capable. And MS sells no graphics library to suppliment it, so I am wondering how they press you to upgrade and collect license fees for something that doesn't exist.
Last time I ALSO checked, though LEADTools (an image manipulation library) was really expensive. Of course it does a lot (LOT) more stuff than the built in libraries. Oh, and keep in mind that this is from a 3rd party vendor, not MS as the article would fud you into believing.
I guess the fact that a very competent libary is included and that MS is letting 3rd party tool vendors make money is a bad thing today. Of course if this was an article about MS buying out an image manipulation library company and then giving it away for free would be bad because it stifles competetion and puts people out of work. Funny how putting people out of work is only bad when MS does it. If a bunch of college kids do it in the name of 'free software' it's just peachy.
The reason we have SOOO much to talk about on SlashDot is exactly because Microsoft thinks exclusively of the end-user ( end-user = users of MS Office, as well as many IDE code monkeys) and NEVER thinks of the developer, except at the lowest common denominator.
A sweaty, "developers, developers, developers" singing monkey named Steve Ballmer might disagree with you there.
Last I checked, IE ran executable code automagically due to a buffer overflow late last year, not sure if there are any such bugs this year.
I patch. Sooner or later I guess my luck could run out, but I expect Firefox (even though it, the most popular open source browser, cannot properly render the most popular open source advocacy site) to start stealing marketshare. When this happens MS will either get off its ass and fix/improve IE or I'll end up switching to Firefox for the added features. Firefox was not quite a "better mousetrap" the last time I checked (0.9.1), but it was getting damn close, and when that happens I switch.
People have no clue what makes up a "dubious" origin. Hell, RealPlayer counts as dubious in my book (once a villain, always a villain), while an OSS project who has no corporate backing, not knowing any of the coders, is usually less dubious. How do you know which are reputable companies? Knowledge, which implies that it is not common sense.
When I said "dubious" what I really meant to say was "l33t zer0 day juarez". Simply not screwing around with warez/mp3z/etcz limits your exposure to malware in a big way.
When it comes to downloading other things it still seems like common sense to me. When the website looks like jeffk authored and the software is claiming to help you grow your penis by 2 inches I usually take a pass. When the download is from a company website and there are some reviews to be found I feel fairly safe.
Oh hell, maybe I *am* just a smart guy with lots of technical knowledge. But then again, I use windows so THAT can't be possible.
Dunno. I've done just fine with a years old Linksys router. No AV, no anti-spyware software, and pretty much no configuration on the boxes themselves. Oh, and using Outlook and IE.
How have I gone literally YEARS without a virus, worm, or peice of spyware? Quite simple.
1. I don't steal other peoples work. This has two implications. I don't install file sharing software which is most always loaded with spyware. The other is that I don't download software of dubious origin.
2. I don't run executable content I get through email unless I know the source and am expecting the file. Outlook has not auto run scripts in years now.
3. I limit the items that I do download to execute to those that are well known and from sites that I trust. I DO NOT go and download every screen saver I can find on the internet like a LOT of other idiots do. You'd be surprised at the amount of shit that creeps in through the installs of these whores.
4. When the little popup says that updates are availible I install them. That simple. For software that I use which is not included in the windows update I check the sites regularly (if they are software that is susceptable to this sort of thing).
No cost, save the router. All common sense and situational awareness when I surf. The people who have computers loaded with spyware lack this. And Linux/OSX/FreeBSD are NOT going to save them from themselves.
And the same people who never update IE are going to start updating Firefox on a regular basis?
Ok, be honest here. How many of you "I installed Firefox on moms PC and she didn't even notice" people did this months ago and have enjoyed the peace and quiet of not having to support them? And how many of you have been diligent about going back and updating them? Have there been any security flaws found/corrected since then? If not the only thing protecting them is the relative obscurity of the software, no? And when its not so obscure?
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ASP files are often the cause of these types of breakages
.asp) and then passes the text of the page to the ASP interpreter which just programmatically outputs whatever crap the programmers programmed it to output and IIS serves this up to the client.
ASP pages render the HTML that they are programmed to render. Nothing more or less, really. Put blame where blame is due. (ASP *IS* total shit, but it not at fault here)
ASP files are often the cause of these types of breakages, and it certainly is in this case (type mismatch: cint that isn't mentioned in IE) but I'm sure this isn't the only one.
Um, that's called JavaScript. ASP only spits out the JavaScript that it is programmed to output. Just like the HTML. IE/Netscape implementations of JavaScript differ. If you want to place blame here split it up between your brain dead co-workers and the IE JavaScript parser. Not ASP. (ASP is *REALLY* crap, though)
So, you can call bullshit if you like, but you're wrong.
I was thinking of hiring interns for some slave labor next summer. I really need to rethink that.
Improperly designed asp sites send out crap that doesn't even approximate standards
Um, so will pretty much everything else out there when you design the thing improperly. Blame to improper design.
firefox doesn't know how to ignore the crap and just render the IIS built garbage.
IIS doesn't build anything. It simply runs an ISAPI filter for known extensions (like
Good thing you are in school and getting OJT, as you really have a lot to learn. Here is the first lesson for you: "Garbage in, Garbage out".
WinFS is working. Search is not. MMMmm, seems like you don't know enough about what WinFS actually is and is not to understand that both of those statements can be quite true. Of course I can understand that if the only thing you think WinFS is for/useful for is for searching for files.
Fact is that your original statement was and continues to be wrong.
*shrug*
Search is broken in build 4074, but WinFS is still running just fine. If you think that searching on metadata is all that WinFS is about you should go an read up on it a bit more.
Actually WinFS is running on this machine right this second, inside of a virtual machine running a longhorn beta. You should aquaint yourself with the facts before slashbotting.
I believe this is where someone is supposed to call you a newb, tell you to shut the fuck up, and then yell you to write it yourself.
Or did I get the order wrong?
The mint only makes coin. Better to ask the BEP for paper money.
And here are some stupid cliff (of cheers fame) fun facts:
The mint and BEP are the only two goverment entities that consistantly make money. They create the stuff and they basically 'sell' it at face value. The margins on coin are low, but they still make a mint. nyuck nyuck.
The United States Postal Service sell advertising. Put in a change of address recently and the confirmation letter's envelope from them contained serveral ad inserts targeted at people who are moving from some big businesses you've probably heard of. I was a bit taken aback.
Yes, the latter is MUCH, MUCH better.
It's not a parody of the song. It uses the song to make fun of Bush and Kerry. If it was making fun of the song I think they could get away with it.
Yes, what about those types of parents?
The story's commentary is some of the biggest bullshit I've read on Slashdot in a while
"a while"? Do you mean since the last michael story?
Any attempt to cast Microsoft in a negative shadow, even through faulty arguments, is praised on the front page.
No shit, sherlock. Welcome to slashdot.
No. He got caught downloading child porn and came up with a REALLY lame excuse.
You said he was only interested in accumulating wealth and power. I call bullshit.
And you're right about it not costing as much. Every dollar he gives lets him not pay the government 35 cents in tax. But do the math, he's still coming out 65 cents behind in this deal.
Let's face it, Bill Gates is a filthy liberal. His mother sat on the board of the United Way (which is pretty much how he was golden at IBM, John Akers knew her personally), and his dad is in favor of mega high estate taxes. Given the amount of money his foundation donates makes it clear that the fruit does not fall far from the tree.
Please. The man has given more money to charity than you'll ever see in your life. And before you try to tell me how good it is for his taxes ask yourself if you really think he managed to drop himself into a lower tax bracket because of it.
If the proprietary stuff was being replaced with something better, and not just free your argument might hold a wee bit more water.
That's all a matter of perspective I suppose. So I only need one license per server for ASP.NET and one license per server for any add-on components I want to use.
No. You only need a license for the server itself. If you have a licensed installation of whatever running you can install ASP.NET. No need to purchase a license. Your developers can all install ASP.NET on their personal machines. No need to have anything but an OS to install it on.
Honestly, do you think the poor fuck who just got the pink slip REALLY gives a mad assed shit about how he was put of work?
Hrm, last time I checked the entire System.Graphics namespace was part of the framework and not an add-on that costs money. It's quite capable. And MS sells no graphics library to suppliment it, so I am wondering how they press you to upgrade and collect license fees for something that doesn't exist.
Last time I ALSO checked, though LEADTools (an image manipulation library) was really expensive. Of course it does a lot (LOT) more stuff than the built in libraries. Oh, and keep in mind that this is from a 3rd party vendor, not MS as the article would fud you into believing.
I guess the fact that a very competent libary is included and that MS is letting 3rd party tool vendors make money is a bad thing today. Of course if this was an article about MS buying out an image manipulation library company and then giving it away for free would be bad because it stifles competetion and puts people out of work. Funny how putting people out of work is only bad when MS does it. If a bunch of college kids do it in the name of 'free software' it's just peachy.
The reason we have SOOO much to talk about on SlashDot is exactly because Microsoft thinks exclusively of the end-user ( end-user = users of MS Office, as well as many IDE code monkeys) and NEVER thinks of the developer, except at the lowest common denominator.
A sweaty, "developers, developers, developers" singing monkey named Steve Ballmer might disagree with you there.
Where is "Sort by Date"?
Would you use printf to diplay the error message if it did?
Could you imagine a list like that for IE?
Will probably end up happening soon. Open online bug tracking has already started for some of their products.
Last I checked, IE ran executable code automagically due to a buffer overflow late last year, not sure if there are any such bugs this year.
I patch. Sooner or later I guess my luck could run out, but I expect Firefox (even though it, the most popular open source browser, cannot properly render the most popular open source advocacy site) to start stealing marketshare. When this happens MS will either get off its ass and fix/improve IE or I'll end up switching to Firefox for the added features. Firefox was not quite a "better mousetrap" the last time I checked (0.9.1), but it was getting damn close, and when that happens I switch.
People have no clue what makes up a "dubious" origin. Hell, RealPlayer counts as dubious in my book (once a villain, always a villain), while an OSS project who has no corporate backing, not knowing any of the coders, is usually less dubious. How do you know which are reputable companies? Knowledge, which implies that it is not common sense.
When I said "dubious" what I really meant to say was "l33t zer0 day juarez". Simply not screwing around with warez/mp3z/etcz limits your exposure to malware in a big way.
When it comes to downloading other things it still seems like common sense to me. When the website looks like jeffk authored and the software is claiming to help you grow your penis by 2 inches I usually take a pass. When the download is from a company website and there are some reviews to be found I feel fairly safe.
Oh hell, maybe I *am* just a smart guy with lots of technical knowledge. But then again, I use windows so THAT can't be possible.
192.168.1.10 :) Have fun with that!
Dunno. I've done just fine with a years old Linksys router. No AV, no anti-spyware software, and pretty much no configuration on the boxes themselves. Oh, and using Outlook and IE.
How have I gone literally YEARS without a virus, worm, or peice of spyware? Quite simple.
1. I don't steal other peoples work. This has two implications. I don't install file sharing software which is most always loaded with spyware. The other is that I don't download software of dubious origin.
2. I don't run executable content I get through email unless I know the source and am expecting the file. Outlook has not auto run scripts in years now.
3. I limit the items that I do download to execute to those that are well known and from sites that I trust. I DO NOT go and download every screen saver I can find on the internet like a LOT of other idiots do. You'd be surprised at the amount of shit that creeps in through the installs of these whores.
4. When the little popup says that updates are availible I install them. That simple. For software that I use which is not included in the windows update I check the sites regularly (if they are software that is susceptable to this sort of thing).
No cost, save the router. All common sense and situational awareness when I surf. The people who have computers loaded with spyware lack this. And Linux/OSX/FreeBSD are NOT going to save them from themselves.
And the same people who never update IE are going to start updating Firefox on a regular basis?
Ok, be honest here. How many of you "I installed Firefox on moms PC and she didn't even notice" people did this months ago and have enjoyed the peace and quiet of not having to support them? And how many of you have been diligent about going back and updating them? Have there been any security flaws found/corrected since then? If not the only thing protecting them is the relative obscurity of the software, no? And when its not so obscure?