This is enough to make me think about a boycott, RoTK be damned
Boycott Hell! This has moved beyond an industry with a bad sales model, we're talking about federal felony charges for relatively minor economic crimes. You understand what a felony conviction can bring, don't you? Loss of voting rights is a start. Forget earning a decent living , many places won't touch you with a felony record. Want to own a firearm for any purpose? Forget it! You've got a stalker and would feel better with a gun in the house? Should've thought of that before you put that movie up to be downloaded.
As I said at the start, boycott hell, rather it's the time to spank your congress-critter on the nose and replace them if they don't respond.
Final thought: "The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well
, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." - Ayn Rand
They're disposable. You pick up a new one every day and the cops have to keep tracking new numbers. The more dealers that do this, the more work the cops have to do and the more work the cops have to do means less likelyhood of criminals being caught.
IMHO, that's more than a little unworkable as your customers would have to do the same. A dealer who can't be reached can't earn.
If it's truly anonymous, think vending machines or straight cash sales, then you're right, illicit dealers could use them as well as the other monsters hiding under our collective bed: terrorists, child molesters, music pirates, etc.
Is this a reason not to have such things, because they MIGHT be used to break the law? That rationale is being used by the gun ban folks, the MPAA/RIAA, and supporters of the DMCA, among others.
And when control of the state swings back to the likes of Bush and Ashcroft; or Reagan and Meese, what kind of art will be state approved?
All painting will be Norman Rockwell - I'll point you to Meese's war on porn and ashcroft covering the justice dept statues. Remember the shrill cry of indignation over Robert Mappelthorpe and "Piss Christ"? Yup, He'll be unemployed.
Music, this is the only time in history that music isn't under the thumb of the state, or the church with back in the day was the state. Hope you like Sinatra (though he can get a bit racy), Tom Jones, or Englbert whatshisname. What won't make the govt approval list? Well, anything in the Rap genre causes crime. Heavy Metal? Nope those kids listening to Ozzy killed themselves. Country/Western - too much alcohol and besides, those damn dixie chicks spoke out against the war. Oh yeah, Bob Dylan, Arlo Guthrie, the Dead, the Airplane -- they'll all be cleaning toilets, we don't need that devisive protest music.
We've still got TV and the movies but I'll let those thoughts sink in for a bit first.
They should pass this, seriously. You dont even have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out.
Ok, first off, I'm opposed to tax in all it's forms - federal, state, property, you name it, I don't want to pay more than I have to. I'll follow that by saying that I'll bitch, moan, kvetch, vote against and otherwise harrass any of my representatives who tried to institute an internet tax.
All of that said, I don't think the senate has any right to pass this. Why? Doesn't our constitution say something about "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people". I hate taxes, but I hate the constant increase of federal control into what should be local or state matters even more.
The Dems seem to favor government expansion, especially the nanny state
While that may have been true in the past, might I point you to our current president, who I believe ran as the party of smaller government, and is now working overtime to force the nanny state down our throats and expand medicare. This after nationalizing the airport security industry and spending $70+ billion in Iraq.
There's also the new gov of California, the self proclaimed fiscal conservative, who wants to expand the welfare system. "Everything is for the children. Schwarzenegger keeps talking about taking care of the children. As though children would die in the streets if the government didn't spend lots of money on them." - Harry Browne, former LP candidate.
I find no difference between the reps and dems of today, both are hell bent on expanding government as quickly as possible.
I wasn't trying to imply that Reagan started this mess, look at nixon ruining those on his "enemies list", mccarthy chasing communists, Johnson and the 1968 GCA, and the list goes on, and on, and on. Hell, John Adams, the 2nd president and original patriot waited all the way til 1798 to start shredding things with the alien and sedition acts (which may have been largely targeted at Jefferson and his supporters). The posters I replied to, though, seemed to be arguing whether Clinton or G.W. Bush were the first to quash civil liberties.
I am not sure whether that GPS tracking case has been ruled on by the supreme court yet, but i do know that some suspected murder led police right to the body by the use of a hidden GPS. Privacy issues as well
This was a little different IMHO. Here it wasn't an onboard gps like the one described in the article, it was a "bug", for lack of a better word, planted under warrant by the police. I don't know if it's going to the SCOTUS but the state supreme court said it was OK if done under a warrant.
Try smoking a sigarette in a restaurant
Or drinking a beer in front of a police station
Or flipping a cop the bird
Or smoking a joint near cops
Or...
I'll play:
Try refusing a sobriety test at a "DUI Checkpoint" - no probable cause needed since we're protecting society.
Or getting your boat back after the coast guard forces itself aboard for a "safety check" - life preservers, fire extinguishers and such - then arrests you for a roach butt. Again, no warrant or probable cause needed cause we're protecting society
Or saying Fuck on the radio, or in a public venue, yup, you guessed it. we're "Protecting the public from wicked rock bands..." (Ice T, "Freedom of Speach")
I agree with 90% of your comment, except for the "obsolete charter". I see the problems we have being caused, directly or indirectly, by drifting farther from that charter.
Well the point at which things go bad is when the propaganda has been so extreme that people think that the President is the Government, and the Government is the country
I think Ayn Rand put it best: "The source of the government's authority is `the consent of the
governed.' This means that the government is not ruler, but the
servant or agent of the citizens; it means the government as such has
no rights except the rights delegated to it by the citizens for a
specific purpose." Ayn Rand, "The Nature of Government"
Actually if you want to look it up, most of the erosion of rights like this started with the clinton administration. Bush is merely has been keeping the status quo
Now I'm not debating the erosion of rights under clinton, but let's not pretend that he started the ball rolling.
Remember Regan's "war on some drugs" which has given us asset forfeiture , drug tests, mandatory minimum's and long jail substances for users (violating the 4th ammendment). Remember also that Ed Meese, Regan's attorney general,tried valiantly to outlaw pornography and other "filth".
Exercise and better diet strike me as a lot of pain for little gain. The negative effects on one's life show up immediately and the positive ones take huge amounts of time to appear. So it's all too easy to give up and say it's just not worth it.
Except the negative ones often don't show up until it's too late to do anything when they could have been prevented by light exercise and simple diet changes.
Two cases: My friend T is 65, 0% body fat, plays full court basketball 2-3x per week and unless he's eaten by a bear on one of his hiking trips will live independantly to be 100. Another friends's mother, otoh, is the same age, 150 - 200 lbs overweight, can walk 500 yards in 45 minutes and can't leave the house without help. How long til she gets so far gone that someone has to wipe her ass for her?
That was a long way of saying that the negatives can take years to show up. The lack of independance is what scares me the most.
On a side note, I just returned from Paris, and I can tell you that almost every obese person I saw their was a fellow American. Even if they weren't busy making asses out of themselves as stereotypical tourists, they would stick out like a sore thumb due to their wider than average girth.
Try living here for a while, those observations are burned permanently into your brain. I never realized how loud and downright huge we are until I lived outside the country and saw our best and brightest on vacation.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if people let themselves or their children eat crappier diets because they're "making up for it" with a pill.
Unfortunately, that's my girlfriend's philosophy. Fibre supplements, protien supplements, multi-vitamin all in place of food. Why? Because, things with the right amounts have "too many calories". Sigh
Cool, I don't have any duct tape, but there are 4 2gb HD's and an AT power supply bolted to some scrap aluminium. It's my hillbilly RAID array. (trying to learn the ins and outs of linux RAID)
I've still only got 32MB so my ssh connection takes 1 minute+, it's only usable for this since I can cross compile kernels on my athlon box in a few minutes.
The Ultra 5 sitting next to it is doing the same kinds of things - happily running 2.6.0.test7.
Excellent point to which I have to add: Stores that are open after 7pm, or on sundays. Air conditioning (especially this year). Fresh fruits available year round - regardless of season. And my personal favorite, foods from a multitude of cultures, not just the homogenous "native cuisine".
That will give you the ability to stream to one person a single file for an entire month.
So while you are listing to music you are also serving it out, thus nullifing your per song obligation.
That was the heart of my question, you're not nullifing anything - the RIAA still wants $0.07 per song per listener. By serving it out, you're still distributing music without the publisher's permission and still breaking copyright law. Your $100.80 per month would only cover your tab, not everyone who piggybacks along with you.
Using his example: .07 cents per song played
Played 10 times per cached copy
4 MB per song
20 GB total cached songs
20,000/4 *.07 = $3.50 I don't know about you, but if you charge $1 per month per user
Under the license agreement, $1 per user per month would cover that user listening to 14 songs, not including rent and tip.
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The time has definitely come for a new political party that champions individual liberty, social responsibility and sicentific progress
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Maybe it's time to investigate the Libertarians . Looks like they've started out in the right direction. For a more polished view of libertarianism, check out the US party and their last presidential candidate
This is enough to make me think about a boycott, RoTK be damned
Boycott Hell! This has moved beyond an industry with a bad sales model, we're talking about federal felony charges for relatively minor economic crimes. You understand what a felony conviction can bring, don't you? Loss of voting rights is a start. Forget earning a decent living , many places won't touch you with a felony record. Want to own a firearm for any purpose? Forget it! You've got a stalker and would feel better with a gun in the house? Should've thought of that before you put that movie up to be downloaded.
As I said at the start, boycott hell, rather it's the time to spank your congress-critter on the nose and replace them if they don't respond.
Final thought: "The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well , when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." - Ayn Rand
It was true in 1938 and it's true today
Ooh, don't forget to add a fingerprint and DNA swab, we must have those on file. If you've done nothing wrong, why worry about these trivial matters.
They're disposable. You pick up a new one every day and the cops have to keep tracking new numbers. The more dealers that do this, the more work the cops have to do and the more work the cops have to do means less likelyhood of criminals being caught.
IMHO, that's more than a little unworkable as your customers would have to do the same. A dealer who can't be reached can't earn.
I can see this as a boon for an illicit dealer.
If it's truly anonymous, think vending machines or straight cash sales, then you're right, illicit dealers could use them as well as the other monsters hiding under our collective bed: terrorists, child molesters, music pirates, etc.
Is this a reason not to have such things, because they MIGHT be used to break the law? That rationale is being used by the gun ban folks, the MPAA/RIAA, and supporters of the DMCA, among others.
And when control of the state swings back to the likes of Bush and Ashcroft; or Reagan and Meese, what kind of art will be state approved?
All painting will be Norman Rockwell - I'll point you to Meese's war on porn and ashcroft covering the justice dept statues. Remember the shrill cry of indignation over Robert Mappelthorpe and "Piss Christ"? Yup, He'll be unemployed.
Music, this is the only time in history that music isn't under the thumb of the state, or the church with back in the day was the state. Hope you like Sinatra (though he can get a bit racy), Tom Jones, or Englbert whatshisname. What won't make the govt approval list? Well, anything in the Rap genre causes crime. Heavy Metal? Nope those kids listening to Ozzy killed themselves. Country/Western - too much alcohol and besides, those damn dixie chicks spoke out against the war. Oh yeah, Bob Dylan, Arlo Guthrie, the Dead, the Airplane -- they'll all be cleaning toilets, we don't need that devisive protest music.
We've still got TV and the movies but I'll let those thoughts sink in for a bit first.
They should pass this, seriously. You dont even have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out.
Ok, first off, I'm opposed to tax in all it's forms - federal, state, property, you name it, I don't want to pay more than I have to. I'll follow that by saying that I'll bitch, moan, kvetch, vote against and otherwise harrass any of my representatives who tried to institute an internet tax.
All of that said, I don't think the senate has any right to pass this. Why? Doesn't our constitution say something about "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people". I hate taxes, but I hate the constant increase of federal control into what should be local or state matters even more.
Damn, I wish that was my excuse.
The Dems seem to favor government expansion, especially the nanny state
While that may have been true in the past, might I point you to our current president, who I believe ran as the party of smaller government, and is now working overtime to force the nanny state down our throats and expand medicare. This after nationalizing the airport security industry and spending $70+ billion in Iraq.
There's also the new gov of California, the self proclaimed fiscal conservative, who wants to expand the welfare system. "Everything is for the children. Schwarzenegger keeps talking about taking care of the children. As though children would die in the streets if the government didn't spend lots of money on them." - Harry Browne, former LP candidate.
I find no difference between the reps and dems of today, both are hell bent on expanding government as quickly as possible.
I wasn't trying to imply that Reagan started this mess, look at nixon ruining those on his "enemies list", mccarthy chasing communists, Johnson and the 1968 GCA, and the list goes on, and on, and on. Hell, John Adams, the 2nd president and original patriot waited all the way til 1798 to start shredding things with the alien and sedition acts (which may have been largely targeted at Jefferson and his supporters). The posters I replied to, though, seemed to be arguing whether Clinton or G.W. Bush were the first to quash civil liberties.
while driving is a privilidge not a right,
This is off topic, I know, but there are people who believe driving is now a right.
I am not sure whether that GPS tracking case has been ruled on by the supreme court yet, but i do know that some suspected murder led police right to the body by the use of a hidden GPS. Privacy issues as well
This was a little different IMHO. Here it wasn't an onboard gps like the one described in the article, it was a "bug", for lack of a better word, planted under warrant by the police. I don't know if it's going to the SCOTUS but the state supreme court said it was OK if done under a warrant.
Try smoking a sigarette in a restaurant Or drinking a beer in front of a police station Or flipping a cop the bird Or smoking a joint near cops Or ...
I'll play:
Try refusing a sobriety test at a "DUI Checkpoint" - no probable cause needed since we're protecting society.
Or getting your boat back after the coast guard forces itself aboard for a "safety check" - life preservers, fire extinguishers and such - then arrests you for a roach butt. Again, no warrant or probable cause needed cause we're protecting society
Or saying Fuck on the radio, or in a public venue, yup, you guessed it. we're "Protecting the public from wicked rock bands..." (Ice T, "Freedom of Speach")
or...
I agree with 90% of your comment, except for the "obsolete charter". I see the problems we have being caused, directly or indirectly, by drifting farther from that charter.
Well the point at which things go bad is when the propaganda has been so extreme that people think that the President is the Government, and the Government is the country
I think Ayn Rand put it best: "The source of the government's authority is `the consent of the governed.' This means that the government is not ruler, but the servant or agent of the citizens; it means the government as such has no rights except the rights delegated to it by the citizens for a specific purpose." Ayn Rand, "The Nature of Government"
@!#!# Part II
s/Regan/Reagan/g, and I promise I'll type more coherently next time.
(violating the 4th ammendment)
#$@#$ Let's try this again. Replace 4th amendment with 5th and 8th ammendments.
Actually if you want to look it up, most of the erosion of rights like this started with the clinton administration. Bush is merely has been keeping the status quo
Now I'm not debating the erosion of rights under clinton, but let's not pretend that he started the ball rolling.
Remember Regan's "war on some drugs" which has given us asset forfeiture , drug tests, mandatory minimum's and long jail substances for users (violating the 4th ammendment). Remember also that Ed Meese, Regan's attorney general,tried valiantly to outlaw pornography and other "filth".
Exercise and better diet strike me as a lot of pain for little gain. The negative effects on one's life show up immediately and the positive ones take huge amounts of time to appear. So it's all too easy to give up and say it's just not worth it.
Except the negative ones often don't show up until it's too late to do anything when they could have been prevented by light exercise and simple diet changes.
Two cases: My friend T is 65, 0% body fat, plays full court basketball 2-3x per week and unless he's eaten by a bear on one of his hiking trips will live independantly to be 100. Another friends's mother, otoh, is the same age, 150 - 200 lbs overweight, can walk 500 yards in 45 minutes and can't leave the house without help. How long til she gets so far gone that someone has to wipe her ass for her?
That was a long way of saying that the negatives can take years to show up. The lack of independance is what scares me the most.
On a side note, I just returned from Paris, and I can tell you that almost every obese person I saw their was a fellow American. Even if they weren't busy making asses out of themselves as stereotypical tourists, they would stick out like a sore thumb due to their wider than average girth.
Try living here for a while, those observations are burned permanently into your brain. I never realized how loud and downright huge we are until I lived outside the country and saw our best and brightest on vacation.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if people let themselves or their children eat crappier diets because they're "making up for it" with a pill.
Unfortunately, that's my girlfriend's philosophy. Fibre supplements, protien supplements, multi-vitamin all in place of food. Why? Because, things with the right amounts have "too many calories". Sigh
I think he covered that by suggesting the various postal services could handle this.
Cool, I don't have any duct tape, but there are 4 2gb HD's and an AT power supply bolted to some scrap aluminium. It's my hillbilly RAID array. (trying to learn the ins and outs of linux RAID)
I've still only got 32MB so my ssh connection takes 1 minute+, it's only usable for this since I can cross compile kernels on my athlon box in a few minutes.
The Ultra 5 sitting next to it is doing the same kinds of things - happily running 2.6.0.test7.
I've got a SparcStation 5 for exploring linux kernels. Hey it was cheap and designed to run headless.
Excellent point to which I have to add: Stores that are open after 7pm, or on sundays. Air conditioning (especially this year). Fresh fruits available year round - regardless of season. And my personal favorite, foods from a multitude of cultures, not just the homogenous "native cuisine".
$%$#%# I was thinking 7 cents seemed really steep. One of these days, I'll learn to read for comprehension.
That will give you the ability to stream to one person a single file for an entire month.
.07 cents per song played .07 = $3.50
So while you are listing to music you are also serving it out, thus nullifing your per song obligation.
That was the heart of my question, you're not nullifing anything - the RIAA still wants $0.07 per song per listener. By serving it out, you're still distributing music without the publisher's permission and still breaking copyright law. Your $100.80 per month would only cover your tab, not everyone who piggybacks along with you.
Using his example:
Played 10 times per cached copy
4 MB per song
20 GB total cached songs
20,000/4 *
I don't know about you, but if you charge $1 per month per user
Under the license agreement, $1 per user per month would cover that user listening to 14 songs, not including rent and tip.