republican, white congress, some of whom were in office and voted against civil-rights legislation in the 60's.
The charge against the 1968 civil rights bill was led by southern democrats, namely Al Gore Sr., our former VP's father.
For more trivia, a Senate page ran the Stars & Bars above the Capitol dome for 4 hours the day the bill passed before he was caught and expelled from the school.
"Everybody knows Abraham Lincoln was a democrat"
-D.C. mayor Marion Barry, a year after
he was convicted of cocaine posession.
I got it completely by accident. I've always actually wanted to switch to a handle, rather than a fragment of my real name (which i used when i first signed on to/., like the retard that i was/am) but i don't want to give up the user #.
plus, if i start to use a different name, the moderators who hate me will have to learn to seek me out yet again under a new name, and that wouldn't be fair to them.
if you want to see a cool user #, check out the guy with 66666. He still posts.
Much of Microsoft's strategy in the past has involved embracing a standard, and then changing it in such a way that specific interoperabilities (specifically, MS client to non-MS server) are disabled.
Some examples of protocols that have been adapted in this manner are HTML, SSL and Kerberos.
Which protocols, in the future, do you intend to apply this paradigm to?
Dear Doug, could you clear something up for me once and for all?
Was the "AARD detection code" bug a true self-modifying virus, intentionally planted by Microsoft? And if not, how did self-modifying, XOR encrypted code get into Windows?
Here's the link to the AARD code:
http://www.ddj.com/articles/1993/9309/9309d/9309 d. htm
Thanks for your reply! Microsoft's years of silence on this have really had me wondering whether MS really unleashed a stealth virus on its users. Please tell us they didn't!
Here on Slashdot we have developed, as a community, and incredibally powerful tool
I respectfully disagree. Say what you want about/. moderation, but it was not developed "as a community". It was was developed by Hemos & Taco, and the rest of the team. The rest of./ may have collectively bitched about it, and provided a live test facility, but that's a far stretch from "developing" something.
Bender is an amazing piece of software. Instead of another unappreciative rant, let's show some respect for the sheer volume and popularity of/. and the innovators who made it happen.
But how does it work. They claim you can use existing mastering equipment to create cds like this. Even more impressive, they claim:
The SAFEAUDIO Toolkit will be distributed with Macrovision's SAFECAST(TM) digital rights management technology that enables 'time lock' and 'number of usage lock' functions while providing persistent security. This feature ensures that CD replication facilities will always be using the latest release of SAFEAUDIO and by allowing Macrovision to control the timing and delivery of toolkit upgrades.
If you can lock the number of times someone plays a song, you are NOT making a cd that will play in a cd player. You need software for that, and it sounds to me like this is software for win32 pc's only. This sounds like yet another attempt to create cds that will execute a program on your computer that decrypt tracks on the cd. Even though it now has DMCA protection, all these schemes have the problem of either needing an external conduit (the net) to give the user the key, or embedding the key on the cd, which is all too easy to hack.
The system integration and telemetry is what's going to suck.
I reccomend an electric glider as a platform. It can stay up all day, they're easy to fly (hell, i can do it), there's an existing technology base, and all you have to do is drive along the bike race path and fly the plane overhead, even without telemetry. The model airplane distance record was set in just such a fashion.
... the same argument is used for LINUX a product obviously being dumped to reduce or eliminate the Windows core market.
Throw into that the backers are major application suppliers... which have a vested interest in seeing MS fail... and that they are colluding to provide a no cost product to attract the business away from their biggest competitor and you have a potentially ugly scene for LINUX in the future.
If you can show that a single company is funding the development of linux in order to leverage an existing monopoly, i say let that company be sued as a trust.
And thats Microsofts fault? No, its the fault of the ignorant consumer.
It's the consumer's fault that Microsoft is a monopoly? Perhaps. Was it the consumer's fault that Standard Oil was a monopoly? That the railroads were monopolies?
Could you tell me which consumer, in particular, forced microsoft to build stealth viruses into their code?
It appears that Microsoft did a moon-shot effort, created a web browser that competed on the same ground as the established favorite, and were fairly successful.
(opens dictionary, flips to "product")
product n 1: commodities offered for sale - Internet Explorer is not a product. A product is something you sell. Microsoft has spent over $100 million developing and over $30 million marketing IE, and it is free. You cannot "compete" with a product if you are not a product. You can, however, "undercut", "hamstring", or "destroy" a product if you are almost as good and are free.
The process of flooding a new market with free or ultra-low-cost alternatives is called "dumping". It's illegal. It usually eliminates the market.
5. Nearly all opposition to MS comes from jealous competitors.
This statement is demonstrably untrue. I am not a competitor to Microsoft - I write embedded software for optical switches. I never use microsoft software, except on the dedicated machine I use to keep in touch with the rest of the world. I am forced to keep this second machine due to the closed standards (.doc,.xls) documents that I get from vendors, co-workers, etc.
Almost everyone I know in the computing field - my co-workers, our IS guys, our vendors, everyone hates Microsoft. They hate them so much that the very mention of the word makes them shake with anger. None of us compete with Microsoft, nor have we ever. We're embedded programmers, we're agnostic. But we're also good software engineers, and we know when we're having poorly designed, shitty software shoved down our throats. Like, say, vxworks. The difference in the embedded market is that we have a choice.
Why don't people talk about the real venom? Why don't they talk about the hidden viruses in windows, or the blatant plagarism in DOS 6.2, or the masses of forced non-interoperability in IE 4+ to push their server. or the faked videotape they showed a judge!
People with no vested interest in competing with Microsoft hate them. Not because they are jealous, but because they are not stupid.
This case is obvious to anyone who understands software.
check out the header of this shell:
#!/usr/bin/perl
#MUD Shell
#(C)2001 Dean "Gandalf" Swift and Xirium
#
#20010209 Gandalf: idea taken from comments on SlashDot.Org
#20010210 Gandalf: start
Hmmm... ok... but which comment was he inspired by?
When speech causes harm, whether it be physical injuries, or mental anguish, to another person, the speaker has violated the rights of the target of the speech and therefore, not protected by the First Amendment. This is called slander or libel and is punishable by law.
Yes, slander and libel are punishable by law.
No, slander and libel are NOT punishable by your principal!
The difference is that the law punishes people through due process and the review of a jury of their peers, whereas your local principal punishes you whenever he gets his panties in a bunch.
Do NOT confuse the issue. This is about whether a school can make rules about what students can say in their own homes, to their parents. It is NOT about libel.
Good God! Is anyone listening to this? The government (prosecution) counsel is being beaten up by the Court on the following argument:
"The Netscape-Java middleware merger would simply replace the Microsoft monopoly and its' application barrier to entry with a new monopoly, the Netscape-Java middleware monopoly with the Netscape-Java application barrier to entry"
Will someone please tell the idiot attorney for the U.S. who is representing us that the difference is OPEN STANDARDS. THE DIFFERENCE IS OPEN STANDARDS. The difference is that anyone can implement the middleware layer because it has an open API, but NO ONE is allowed to create a parallel implementation of the windows API.
Will someone in D.C. please paint THE DIFFERENCE IS OPEN STANDARDS on your naked body and run screaming into the courtroom with your hair on fire!
God these judges are stupid. I can't believe our fate rests with them.
"It's something the intelligence, law-enforcement and military communities are really struggling to deal with," Ben Venzke of the cyberintelligence company iDEFENSE told the paper. "
ok, head on over to www.idefense.com, browse a bit, find some speeches, dig out the tasty quotes:
"We already know that some 30 countries are working on offensive information warfare programs and the principal target for each is the United States. We know, too, that if a US business buys hardware or software from such countries as Russia, China and France, there is a very good chance that they will be infected by bugs or various kinds. We also know that every day hundreds of American companies are attacked through cyberspace and that billions of dollars are lost through theft and blackmail.
"
"
For example, no American intelligence agency effectively mines open source data and shares it across federal agencies and with the private sector. Yet open source data could be a huge national asset. Real reform might mean the creation of a Central Analytical Agency that could collate and analyze all open source data and distribute it via the web to its customer base in the private and public sectors. Only secret intelligence would be the responsibility of the existing intelligence community. Not only would this create a significant and profitable national asset, but it would eliminate wasteful duplication in the intelligence community."
"Be one of the first people to see future Microsoft games and hardware by participating in our Playtest program. Help us build the next generation of games for our new console!
* No experience necessary!"
I mean, really, who out there is going to have experience playtesting an X-Box?
...except maybe anyone with a 700Mhz CPU and a GeForce...
You appear to be in a cave. It is dark. north
You go north.
You appear to be in a cave. It is dark.
You are likely to be eaten by a grue. west
Sorry, you can't go that way. north
You appear to be in a cave. It is dark. cast create light
You fumble over the somatic gestures for create light look
You appear to be in a cave. It is dark.
Someone says "0wn3d j00 d00d!" cast detect in
Your eyes tingle.
3l33t d00d says "0xDEAD 0xFFFF 0xBEEF"
3l33t d00d casts Buffer Overflow
You have been killed!
Play again? (Y/n)?
N
I don't agree. The only way to defeat the studios is to wage the adoption war. Don't touch the format with a 10-foot pole, and it will die. DVD is inextricably linked with CSS. 99.9% of consumers don't understand what's happening inside their DVD player. The slashdot community is far from representative. To get a message to the people, you must simplify. Start ranting about encryption keys and content scrambling and people won't understand.
So, if you need to get a message out, and you want to keep it simple, assume that 99.9% of DVD players are licensed by the CSS, and make the blanket statement that DVD IS evil.
I choose to make this statement, because I believe that only by keeping the DVD standard from being adopted will the industry be taught a lesson it won't forget: keep your standards open, or people won't buy them.
I'm not ignorant, I'm just a lot more pissed off at having lost my first amendment rights than you are.
Except when it's released region-free, or did you not bother to inform yourself before your knee jerked?
See my Other post on this already. There's no "except" here. The DVD format, region encoded or not, still needs a DVD player to view it. And 99% of the people out there buying DVD players are going down to Best Buy and picking up their encryption keys for $129.99. It's still Cosmos coming out of the back of your Macrovision-scrambled player, and you've still lost another home to the CSS-adoption war. I don't care if you sell the DVD region free with a complimentary Macrovision scrubber. The format is tainted, and pushing it advances the goals of the some very scary people.
All I'm saying is, can't we have "Cosmos released on VHS! (and, dear lord, DVD too)" as our headline?
are you aware that until content providers stop using CSS, pushing the format in any way pushes buying a player which puts money in the pockets of the people who hauled a 16 year old kid out of his house in Norway?
I'm talking about a total boycott of the system. Don't touch it until they go out of business or give up.
News Flash! Carl Sagan's Cosmos, a modern masterpiece of Science (science is a "movement" founded on "principles" such as "the free exchange of ideas") was released on the "DVD format" today. The "DVD format" is a format designed to control the ideas exchanged between students and professors, and serve as a model for the day when all information exchange can be controlled by a central authority.
Later on our program, a special feature on "Cops running red lights".
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republican, white congress, some of whom were in office and voted against civil-rights legislation in the 60's.
The charge against the 1968 civil rights bill was led by southern democrats, namely Al Gore Sr., our former VP's father.
For more trivia, a Senate page ran the Stars & Bars above the Capitol dome for 4 hours the day the bill passed before he was caught and expelled from the school.
"Everybody knows Abraham Lincoln was a democrat"
-D.C. mayor Marion Barry, a year after
he was convicted of cocaine posession.
p.s. i'm not a republican.
Dude, you have the most bad-ass user #
/., like the retard that i was/am) but i don't want to give up the user #.
I got it completely by accident. I've always actually wanted to switch to a handle, rather than a fragment of my real name (which i used when i first signed on to
plus, if i start to use a different name, the moderators who hate me will have to learn to seek me out yet again under a new name, and that wouldn't be fair to them.
if you want to see a cool user #, check out the guy with 66666. He still posts.
i'm well aware of the fact that he wasn't at microsoft then. i still want his opinion. companys have legends and secrets.
i was using the term virus loosely to describe all code that is both secret and malicious.
my bad. i would have clarified, but i was trying to keep it short.
Dear Doug,
I'm pleased to learn that you use "vi". When will the Windows ME port of "vi" become available?
Thanks for your input!
Dear Doug,
Much of Microsoft's strategy in the past has involved embracing a standard, and then changing it in such a way that specific interoperabilities (specifically, MS client to non-MS server) are disabled.
Some examples of protocols that have been adapted in this manner are HTML, SSL and Kerberos.
Which protocols, in the future, do you intend to apply this paradigm to?
Thanks for your input!
Dear Doug, could you clear something up for me once and for all?
9 d. htm
Was the "AARD detection code" bug a true self-modifying virus, intentionally planted by Microsoft? And if not, how did self-modifying, XOR encrypted code get into Windows?
Here's the link to the AARD code:
http://www.ddj.com/articles/1993/9309/9309d/930
Thanks for your reply! Microsoft's years of silence on this have really had me wondering whether MS really unleashed a stealth virus on its users. Please tell us they didn't!
Here on Slashdot we have developed, as a community, and incredibally powerful tool
/. moderation, but it was not developed "as a community". It was was developed by Hemos & Taco, and the rest of the team. The rest of ./ may have collectively bitched about it, and provided a live test facility, but that's a far stretch from "developing" something.
/. and the innovators who made it happen.
I respectfully disagree. Say what you want about
Bender is an amazing piece of software. Instead of another unappreciative rant, let's show some respect for the sheer volume and popularity of
/asskiss>
But how does it work. They claim you can use existing mastering equipment to create cds like this. Even more impressive, they claim:
The SAFEAUDIO Toolkit will be distributed with Macrovision's SAFECAST(TM) digital rights management technology that enables 'time lock' and 'number of usage lock' functions while providing persistent security. This feature ensures that CD replication facilities will always be using the latest release of SAFEAUDIO and by allowing Macrovision to control the timing and delivery of toolkit upgrades.
If you can lock the number of times someone plays a song, you are NOT making a cd that will play in a cd player. You need software for that, and it sounds to me like this is software for win32 pc's only. This sounds like yet another attempt to create cds that will execute a program on your computer that decrypt tracks on the cd. Even though it now has DMCA protection, all these schemes have the problem of either needing an external conduit (the net) to give the user the key, or embedding the key on the cd, which is all too easy to hack.
This is an old (and stupid) idea.
Prove me wrong?
Camera? That's easy too:
here ya go
The system integration and telemetry is what's going to suck.
I reccomend an electric glider as a platform. It can stay up all day, they're easy to fly (hell, i can do it), there's an existing technology base, and all you have to do is drive along the bike race path and fly the plane overhead, even without telemetry. The model airplane distance record was set in just such a fashion.
And never underestimate the piper cub offense
good luck.
... the same argument is used for LINUX a product obviously being dumped to reduce or eliminate the Windows core market.
Throw into that the backers are major application suppliers... which have a vested interest in seeing MS fail... and that they are colluding to provide a no cost product to attract the business away from their biggest competitor and you have a potentially ugly scene for LINUX in the future.
If you can show that a single company is funding the development of linux in order to leverage an existing monopoly, i say let that company be sued as a trust.
p.s. linux isn't a product.
>>Why? Because MS is a monopoly.
And thats Microsofts fault? No, its the fault of the ignorant consumer.
It's the consumer's fault that Microsoft is a monopoly? Perhaps. Was it the consumer's fault that Standard Oil was a monopoly? That the railroads were monopolies?
Could you tell me which consumer, in particular, forced microsoft to build stealth viruses into their code?
I'd like to talk to that consumer.
How are you gentlemen?
It appears that Microsoft did a moon-shot effort, created a web browser that competed on the same ground as the established favorite, and were fairly successful.
(opens dictionary, flips to "product")
product n 1: commodities offered for sale
- Internet Explorer is not a product. A product is something you sell. Microsoft has spent over $100 million developing and over $30 million marketing IE, and it is free. You cannot "compete" with a product if you are not a product. You can, however, "undercut", "hamstring", or "destroy" a product if you are almost as good and are free.
The process of flooding a new market with free or ultra-low-cost alternatives is called "dumping". It's illegal. It usually eliminates the market.
Mission accomplished!
5. Nearly all opposition to MS comes from jealous competitors.
.xls) documents that I get from vendors, co-workers, etc.
This statement is demonstrably untrue. I am not a competitor to Microsoft - I write embedded software for optical switches. I never use microsoft software, except on the dedicated machine I use to keep in touch with the rest of the world. I am forced to keep this second machine due to the closed standards (.doc,
Almost everyone I know in the computing field - my co-workers, our IS guys, our vendors, everyone hates Microsoft. They hate them so much that the very mention of the word makes them shake with anger. None of us compete with Microsoft, nor have we ever. We're embedded programmers, we're agnostic. But we're also good software engineers, and we know when we're having poorly designed, shitty software shoved down our throats. Like, say, vxworks. The difference in the embedded market is that we have a choice.
Why don't people talk about the real venom? Why don't they talk about the hidden viruses in windows, or the blatant plagarism in DOS 6.2, or the masses of forced non-interoperability in IE 4+ to push their server. or the faked videotape they showed a judge!
People with no vested interest in competing with Microsoft hate them. Not because they are jealous, but because they are not stupid.
This case is obvious to anyone who understands software.
check out the header of this shell:
#!/usr/bin/perl
#MUD Shell
#(C)2001 Dean "Gandalf" Swift and Xirium
#
#20010209 Gandalf: idea taken from comments on SlashDot.Org
#20010210 Gandalf: start
Hmmm... ok... but which comment was he inspired by?
My guess is comment #46 from this archived story
any other guesses?
When speech causes harm, whether it be physical injuries, or mental anguish, to another person, the speaker has violated the rights of the target of the speech and therefore, not protected by the First Amendment. This is called slander or libel and is punishable by law.
/.
Yes, slander and libel are punishable by law.
No, slander and libel are NOT punishable by your principal!
The difference is that the law punishes people through due process and the review of a jury of their peers, whereas your local principal punishes you whenever he gets his panties in a bunch.
Do NOT confuse the issue. This is about whether a school can make rules about what students can say in their own homes, to their parents. It is NOT about libel.
Friends don't let retarded friends
Good God! Is anyone listening to this? The government (prosecution) counsel is being beaten up by the Court on the following argument:
"The Netscape-Java middleware merger would simply replace the Microsoft monopoly and its' application barrier to entry with a new monopoly, the Netscape-Java middleware monopoly with the Netscape-Java application barrier to entry"
Will someone please tell the idiot attorney for the U.S. who is representing us that the difference is OPEN STANDARDS. THE DIFFERENCE IS OPEN STANDARDS. The difference is that anyone can implement the middleware layer because it has an open API, but NO ONE is allowed to create a parallel implementation of the windows API.
Will someone in D.C. please paint THE DIFFERENCE IS OPEN STANDARDS on your naked body and run screaming into the courtroom with your hair on fire!
God these judges are stupid. I can't believe our fate rests with them.
Check out these fruitcakes they're quoting:
"It's something the intelligence, law-enforcement and military communities are really struggling to deal with," Ben Venzke of the cyberintelligence company iDEFENSE told the paper. "
ok, head on over to www.idefense.com, browse a bit, find some speeches, dig out the tasty quotes:
"We already know that some 30 countries are working on offensive information warfare programs and the principal target for each is the United States. We know, too, that if a US business buys hardware or software from such countries as Russia, China and France, there is a very good chance that they will be infected by bugs or various kinds. We also know that every day hundreds of American companies are attacked through cyberspace and that billions of dollars are lost through theft and blackmail.
"
"
For example, no American intelligence agency effectively mines open source data and shares it across federal agencies and with the private sector. Yet open source data could be a huge national asset. Real reform might mean the creation of a Central Analytical Agency that could collate and analyze all open source data and distribute it via the web to its customer base in the private and public sectors. Only secret intelligence would be the responsibility of the existing intelligence community. Not only would this create a significant and profitable national asset, but it would eliminate wasteful duplication in the intelligence community."
Read the whole thing, it's beautiful.
They even get to speak before congress now and then.
Good thing they don't have a vested interest in the whole thing.
At least they got hacktivist right.
ha.
it's obviously a razor scooter.
bezos is behind the curve again.
Quoth Redmond:
"Be one of the first people to see future Microsoft games and hardware by participating in our Playtest program. Help us build the next generation of games for our new console!
* No experience necessary! "
I mean, really, who out there is going to have experience playtesting an X-Box?
...except maybe anyone with a 700Mhz CPU and a GeForce...
hmmm, ok i see their point.
You appear to be in a cave. It is dark.
north
You go north.
You appear to be in a cave. It is dark.
You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
west
Sorry, you can't go that way.
north
You appear to be in a cave. It is dark.
cast create light
You fumble over the somatic gestures for create light
look
You appear to be in a cave. It is dark.
Someone says "0wn3d j00 d00d!"
cast detect in
Your eyes tingle.
3l33t d00d says "0xDEAD 0xFFFF 0xBEEF"
3l33t d00d casts Buffer Overflow
You have been killed!
Play again? (Y/n)?
N
Let's agree on one thing: DVD is not evil.
I don't agree. The only way to defeat the studios is to wage the adoption war. Don't touch the format with a 10-foot pole, and it will die. DVD is inextricably linked with CSS. 99.9% of consumers don't understand what's happening inside their DVD player. The slashdot community is far from representative. To get a message to the people, you must simplify. Start ranting about encryption keys and content scrambling and people won't understand.
So, if you need to get a message out, and you want to keep it simple, assume that 99.9% of DVD players are licensed by the CSS, and make the blanket statement that DVD IS evil.
I choose to make this statement, because I believe that only by keeping the DVD standard from being adopted will the industry be taught a lesson it won't forget: keep your standards open, or people won't buy them.
I'm not ignorant, I'm just a lot more pissed off at having lost my first amendment rights than you are.
Except when it's released region-free, or did you not bother to inform yourself before your knee jerked?
See my Other post on this already. There's no "except" here. The DVD format, region encoded or not, still needs a DVD player to view it. And 99% of the people out there buying DVD players are going down to Best Buy and picking up their encryption keys for $129.99. It's still Cosmos coming out of the back of your Macrovision-scrambled player, and you've still lost another home to the CSS-adoption war. I don't care if you sell the DVD region free with a complimentary Macrovision scrubber. The format is tainted, and pushing it advances the goals of the some very scary people.
All I'm saying is, can't we have "Cosmos released on VHS! (and, dear lord, DVD too)" as our headline?
are you aware that until content providers stop using CSS, pushing the format in any way pushes buying a player which puts money in the pockets of the people who hauled a 16 year old kid out of his house in Norway?
I'm talking about a total boycott of the system. Don't touch it until they go out of business or give up.
IT (IRONY TODAY):
News Flash! Carl Sagan's Cosmos, a modern masterpiece of Science (science is a "movement" founded on "principles" such as "the free exchange of ideas") was released on the "DVD format" today. The "DVD format" is a format designed to control the ideas exchanged between students and professors, and serve as a model for the day when all information exchange can be controlled by a central authority.
Later on our program, a special feature on "Cops running red lights".