Now you're not the only one using a no-fuss, lighter-than-air window manager out there. In fact, from what I've seen, blackbox is lighter than fvwm. And I know, that's saying something.
Took me a while to come around, but I finally decided I didn't give a damn about eye candy, Gnome was virtually unusable, KDE was unstable, and both were memory hogs.
No shit. I hadn't tried Gnome for a few years, figured I'd give it a shot when I installed linux on a new box recently. I was all ready to add my most used programs to the foot menu...and...couldn't find a way to do it. I assumed it was buried somewhere, but began to consider the possibility that the paternalistic Gnome people knew better than me what programs I need to use, and had decided I simply didn't need to add programs.
I quickly switched back to KDE. Although I've since moved to blackbox since it isn't a memory hog, and is insanely easy to configure.
What I don't understand about Gnome is how it can have so few features and take up so much memory.
Don't you find that a bit expensive especially when it's really meant to be an end-unit for their super successful iTMS (additional costs and perhaps even rising costs)?
Believe that's backwards. iTMS is used to drive sales of iPod, their profit on iTMS is pretty slim.
Yes, it's sexy, small, and cute but 4GB doesn't do me all that much and I would constantly worry about losing it, damanging it, or out and out destroying it.
I mean if you want an enormous "portable" music player have at it. Get a good stereo, a car battery, and an AC/DC converter and you're ready to go. Generally, most people want portable players to be small, though.
Jeez, one thing I notice is that the Internet has caused everyone - including children/young people - to think that just because they have an uninformed or slightly informed opinion on something they ought to (1) argue it blindly (2) shout about it indefinately and (3) brow-beat those who disagree.
I'll be honest, I'm not a comic book fan, so I've never even heard of them. Doesn't mean they're bad, not at all - just means that selling this to average moviegoers is going to be an uphill battle.
Beware of Nick cage - has one character he can play, and mails it in just about all the time.
It does mean that it'll be hard to make money, though. I think they've really mistimed this - Hollywood's all about streaks of nearly identical movies, and outside of franchises like Batman and Spiderman, I think the string has played out. My personal guess, but it looks like the public is cooling on these movies combined with less recognizable titles. Hell, I've only heard of two of them and have no interest in seeing those two.
Not if you write it otherwise. 1) Remove the offending language regarding patents etc. 2) Wherever the GPL references itself (or any future version of itself), replace with "this license, verbatim."
In other words, remove all references of the GPL from the GPL, as well as the annoying crap.
Let's just say that due to errant marksmanship, Stallman doesn't have any toes left. As such, I'm dismayed but not surprised in the least by this development
However, the more likely scenario (compared to IBM just quitting Linux) is that the Linux kernel would continue to be distributed via the old GPL - with one possible modification - the "or any newer version" clause. Not sure how that would affect newer versions of many of the GNU tools released with most versions of linux. I expect much forking.
After coming up with a good idea, the FSF has continued to push itself to the fringes of relevance. Cutting itself off from its largest product (Linux) would finish the job.
Imagine that a micro-payment system was already in place
That's a hell of an imagination. Who starts it? Who runs it? Who deals with the billions of financial transactions per day? Who's in charge of security? Who's in charge of the logistics of dealing with the jurisdictional problems that inevitably crop up? Who standardizes it?
Then I could bounce all my emails explaining how to send me that tiny 1/10 of a cent. My friends would click on the link and the email would go through. And they would then want to join up, too.
Or, more likely, your friends would call you and tell you they're not emailing you any more because they don't want to give their credit card number to some entity they don't trust for the pleasure of sending you email. Also, when you substitute "business associates" for "friends" that gets completely ridiculous. No business is going to even think about doing this. That's why this "system" will never gain traction.
There would need to be a big enough education campaign so people understand the global benefits
That assumes that your idea is so great, that the only reason it isn't used is ignorance. More likely, the public has no interest at all in such a system because it causes more problems than it solves.
We've been through this before. No system for email will work that requires a global education program, huge infrastructure changes, credit cards, or instant adoption. This one requires all four, and has no chance of success. This is one of those ideas that sounds really great in a vacuum, but implementation is completely infeasible.
That's just nuts. You're disallowing people to demonstrate proof of concepts on the basis that it's not a marketable product?
I think the statement is even dumber than that. He's saying that all prototypes have to be made at production quantities. Hello bankruptcy.
If a company designed a new type of PC memory I would imagine they would build a prototype motherboard to demonstrate it to the professional motherboard manufacturers. They may not concern themselves with building the commercial motherboard as it's not in their expertise, rather develop business relations with motherboard manufacturers to allow them to embed it.
Exactly. How many graphics cards does Nvidia make again? Bascially 0.
That one's been knocked around for way too long. There is absolutely no way to change all mail protocols to support such a scheme overnight. This is another one of those schemes that only works if it gets instant and universal acceptance. And it won't.
Java is alive and happy, thanks to the fact, that the people did not flock to.net (only Microsoft shops did), because they did not like the vendor and platform lockin...
Yeah, but Sun's not. Not all of that can be attributed to MS, but a lot can. MS did everything in their power to screw Java on the Windows platform, and succeeded in many ways.
Sames goes for apple, they found their nieche, although the market share is smaller the overall number of sold computers is much higher
Only because the market grew nearly exponentially over the period, their marketshare dropped a ton. MS did such a good job of destroying Apple that they eventually had to prop them up, since Apple was one of the few things MS had to suggest they weren't a computer monopoly.
Linux is alive well
Linux can't ever truly be killed my MS as long as people are willing to work on it for free. If anything, Linux is the best viable weapon against MS because they truly don't understand it.
Microsoft has the problem their death grip worked in the past because they were fighting aginst 1-2 enemies, but they now fight 20-100 enemies and they simply lose focus, because they shift their enemy #1 target almost every month, while their real long term threat is something entirely different, the whole world situation is the biggest threat to their long term survival as a company.
It does seem as if they're coming a bit unraveled, doesn't it? Maybe we're both exhibiting wishful thinking. I think Google is enemy #1 now, and for over a year anyway. Linux has been a strong #1-#2 for a few years now, and their flavor of the month seems to be the iPod. Smaller enemies they can crush at will while barely thinking about it.
One of the reasons why their grip does not work, is because they fight a sensless unwinnable war on too many frontiers, they should develop into something more ibmish, trying to keep their value and income on a very high level and trying to be part of an ecosystem, instead they try to be the ecosystem and loose themselves entirely. They have lost the focus of things years ago anyway.
Full circle in a way - it would be cool if a rejuvenated IBM put the nail in the MS hegemony. 20+ years after they built the beast in the first place.
That's not a tautology. In case you haven't noticed, many companies sell Linux, removing my statement from the tautology category. For instance, you may have heard of Red Hat.
My point is that MS is still killing Linux on non-whitebox machines, used in a business environment. MS don't care about the rest of the Linux market which doesn't make money. This is the point I was originally making - you can't really cite Linux as some sector of the computing market where MS was a step behind and lost. By and large, the market where Linux is thriving is the market that doesn't make money and hence doesn't interest MS. The market where Linux does make money is still dominated by MS.
Some don't realize it, but the non-free-as-in-beer Linux market has more in common with MS than it does with free-as-in-beer Linux.
Go ask Google, Skype, Symantec, Apple, the local Linux guy, all of which benefit immensely from Microsoft not getting it until it's too late.
OK. I asked Apple, and they say they liked their marketshare when it was 3 times higher before Win95. I also asked Netscape (who you conveniently don't mention), and they liked their marketshare 50 times higher than it was before Explorer. You can make the same case for Novell, Word Perfect, etc.
MS waits until an idea works, then they steal it, then they try to kill you. Few survive this pattern. Symantec's doing well simply because MS has never cared about security - Symantec has no role if MS goes away, so they're not a threat. With regard to skype, let's see where they are in 5 years. MS is going after google now - let's wait to see how that plays out. MS is still beating linux among people who actually pay for their OS.
No one has yet survived against MS, in any instance where MS has actually declared war. The only examples you'll get are companies like Symantec who pose no risk to MS.
...IBM? I guarantee you, SCO thought that lawsuit would be gone in a month, and all of them would be swimming in cash. Let's see who tries to extort IBM next time.
Just post a story every day that says:
"Companies sued other companies over pantents they shouldn't have, the *AA's are illegally abusing power they don't have and Apple did something so fantastic I crapped my pants."
But there's so much more here at slashdot!
Let's add "Companies are also suing other companies over patents/trademarks/copyrights they don't actually have." That covers SCO and the recent LMI stories.
We also have the occasional:
"Somone built a PC out of weird parts,"
"Big brother gained new, over-reaching powers that will bring society to its knees,"
"Some OSS figurehead (Stallman, Raymond, etc) said something idealistic/naive/irrelevant/stupid/arrogant,"
"Researchers at a small University made some irrelevant, impractical advance in so-called nanotech that will never affect anyone but makes us crap our pants,"
"Europe is far more enlightened than the US because...,"
"Some government switched from Windows to Linux,"
"Some government used Linux as a ploy to get cheaper Windows pricing,"
"Someone at Google farted,"
"Roland Piquepaille got a story on his 'blog' accepted by ripping off the AP feed,"
"Fudged TCO studies show that OS 'A' is cheaper than OS 'B,' and far cheaper than OS 'X'..."
"Microsoft is still evil,"
"An exploit is discovered in Windows that allows...,"
"Will we be able to do in 100 years some ridiculous thing that I've read about in tons of sci-fi novels but is completely pointless in real life?"
If people are unaware that computers on the internet can be used to share information, then they're idiots. I find the argument with phones a lot more believable and understandable than computers.
And having worked with morons, I don't take computer illiteracy for granted.;) I still remember having to write-protect the *.GRP files on Win 3.1 so my coworkers would stop accidentally deleting program icons from the desktop.
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Now you're not the only one using a no-fuss, lighter-than-air window manager out there. In fact, from what I've seen, blackbox is lighter than fvwm. And I know, that's saying something. Took me a while to come around, but I finally decided I didn't give a damn about eye candy, Gnome was virtually unusable, KDE was unstable, and both were memory hogs.
No shit. I hadn't tried Gnome for a few years, figured I'd give it a shot when I installed linux on a new box recently. I was all ready to add my most used programs to the foot menu...and...couldn't find a way to do it. I assumed it was buried somewhere, but began to consider the possibility that the paternalistic Gnome people knew better than me what programs I need to use, and had decided I simply didn't need to add programs.
I quickly switched back to KDE. Although I've since moved to blackbox since it isn't a memory hog, and is insanely easy to configure.
What I don't understand about Gnome is how it can have so few features and take up so much memory.
I think you're thinking of Mike Rowe and his company.
Believe that's backwards. iTMS is used to drive sales of iPod, their profit on iTMS is pretty slim.
Yes, it's sexy, small, and cute but 4GB doesn't do me all that much and I would constantly worry about losing it, damanging it, or out and out destroying it.
I mean if you want an enormous "portable" music player have at it. Get a good stereo, a car battery, and an AC/DC converter and you're ready to go. Generally, most people want portable players to be small, though.
Did you know Larry Page eats babies? It's true, I read it on Yahoo.
No, you're wrong! You're wrong! You're wrong!
I think you mistake laziness for not caring.
Beware of Nick cage - has one character he can play, and mails it in just about all the time.
It does mean that it'll be hard to make money, though. I think they've really mistimed this - Hollywood's all about streaks of nearly identical movies, and outside of franchises like Batman and Spiderman, I think the string has played out. My personal guess, but it looks like the public is cooling on these movies combined with less recognizable titles. Hell, I've only heard of two of them and have no interest in seeing those two.
Yeah, that's the point. You win the prize.
In other words, remove all references of the GPL from the GPL, as well as the annoying crap.
However, the more likely scenario (compared to IBM just quitting Linux) is that the Linux kernel would continue to be distributed via the old GPL - with one possible modification - the "or any newer version" clause. Not sure how that would affect newer versions of many of the GNU tools released with most versions of linux. I expect much forking.
After coming up with a good idea, the FSF has continued to push itself to the fringes of relevance. Cutting itself off from its largest product (Linux) would finish the job.
That's a hell of an imagination. Who starts it? Who runs it? Who deals with the billions of financial transactions per day? Who's in charge of security? Who's in charge of the logistics of dealing with the jurisdictional problems that inevitably crop up? Who standardizes it?
Then I could bounce all my emails explaining how to send me that tiny 1/10 of a cent. My friends would click on the link and the email would go through. And they would then want to join up, too.
Or, more likely, your friends would call you and tell you they're not emailing you any more because they don't want to give their credit card number to some entity they don't trust for the pleasure of sending you email. Also, when you substitute "business associates" for "friends" that gets completely ridiculous. No business is going to even think about doing this. That's why this "system" will never gain traction.
There would need to be a big enough education campaign so people understand the global benefits
That assumes that your idea is so great, that the only reason it isn't used is ignorance. More likely, the public has no interest at all in such a system because it causes more problems than it solves.
We've been through this before. No system for email will work that requires a global education program, huge infrastructure changes, credit cards, or instant adoption. This one requires all four, and has no chance of success. This is one of those ideas that sounds really great in a vacuum, but implementation is completely infeasible.
I think the statement is even dumber than that. He's saying that all prototypes have to be made at production quantities. Hello bankruptcy.
If a company designed a new type of PC memory I would imagine they would build a prototype motherboard to demonstrate it to the professional motherboard manufacturers. They may not concern themselves with building the commercial motherboard as it's not in their expertise, rather develop business relations with motherboard manufacturers to allow them to embed it.
Exactly. How many graphics cards does Nvidia make again? Bascially 0.
That one's been knocked around for way too long. There is absolutely no way to change all mail protocols to support such a scheme overnight. This is another one of those schemes that only works if it gets instant and universal acceptance. And it won't.
Nah. Just hotlink it. I mean, what the fuck else is going to change it to now?
Yeah, but Sun's not. Not all of that can be attributed to MS, but a lot can. MS did everything in their power to screw Java on the Windows platform, and succeeded in many ways.
Sames goes for apple, they found their nieche, although the market share is smaller the overall number of sold computers is much higher
Only because the market grew nearly exponentially over the period, their marketshare dropped a ton. MS did such a good job of destroying Apple that they eventually had to prop them up, since Apple was one of the few things MS had to suggest they weren't a computer monopoly.
Linux is alive well
Linux can't ever truly be killed my MS as long as people are willing to work on it for free. If anything, Linux is the best viable weapon against MS because they truly don't understand it.
Microsoft has the problem their death grip worked in the past because they were fighting aginst 1-2 enemies, but they now fight 20-100 enemies and they simply lose focus, because they shift their enemy #1 target almost every month, while their real long term threat is something entirely different, the whole world situation is the biggest threat to their long term survival as a company.
It does seem as if they're coming a bit unraveled, doesn't it? Maybe we're both exhibiting wishful thinking. I think Google is enemy #1 now, and for over a year anyway. Linux has been a strong #1-#2 for a few years now, and their flavor of the month seems to be the iPod. Smaller enemies they can crush at will while barely thinking about it.
One of the reasons why their grip does not work, is because they fight a sensless unwinnable war on too many frontiers, they should develop into something more ibmish, trying to keep their value and income on a very high level and trying to be part of an ecosystem, instead they try to be the ecosystem and loose themselves entirely. They have lost the focus of things years ago anyway.
Full circle in a way - it would be cool if a rejuvenated IBM put the nail in the MS hegemony. 20+ years after they built the beast in the first place.
My point is that MS is still killing Linux on non-whitebox machines, used in a business environment. MS don't care about the rest of the Linux market which doesn't make money. This is the point I was originally making - you can't really cite Linux as some sector of the computing market where MS was a step behind and lost. By and large, the market where Linux is thriving is the market that doesn't make money and hence doesn't interest MS. The market where Linux does make money is still dominated by MS.
Some don't realize it, but the non-free-as-in-beer Linux market has more in common with MS than it does with free-as-in-beer Linux.
OK. I asked Apple, and they say they liked their marketshare when it was 3 times higher before Win95. I also asked Netscape (who you conveniently don't mention), and they liked their marketshare 50 times higher than it was before Explorer. You can make the same case for Novell, Word Perfect, etc.
MS waits until an idea works, then they steal it, then they try to kill you. Few survive this pattern. Symantec's doing well simply because MS has never cared about security - Symantec has no role if MS goes away, so they're not a threat. With regard to skype, let's see where they are in 5 years. MS is going after google now - let's wait to see how that plays out. MS is still beating linux among people who actually pay for their OS.
No one has yet survived against MS, in any instance where MS has actually declared war. The only examples you'll get are companies like Symantec who pose no risk to MS.
Credit card to get something free? Methinks somebody's been hitting too many pr0n sites. ;)
Sadly, I thought of that one but I started retching as I typed. Some things are just too horrible.
...IBM? I guarantee you, SCO thought that lawsuit would be gone in a month, and all of them would be swimming in cash. Let's see who tries to extort IBM next time.
You're right, I forgot Star * movies. And you forgot Buffy.
But there's so much more here at slashdot! Let's add "Companies are also suing other companies over patents/trademarks/copyrights they don't actually have." That covers SCO and the recent LMI stories.
We also have the occasional:
"Somone built a PC out of weird parts,"
"Big brother gained new, over-reaching powers that will bring society to its knees,"
"Some OSS figurehead (Stallman, Raymond, etc) said something idealistic/naive/irrelevant/stupid/arrogant,"
"Researchers at a small University made some irrelevant, impractical advance in so-called nanotech that will never affect anyone but makes us crap our pants,"
"Europe is far more enlightened than the US because...,"
"Some government switched from Windows to Linux,"
"Some government used Linux as a ploy to get cheaper Windows pricing,"
"Someone at Google farted,"
"Roland Piquepaille got a story on his 'blog' accepted by ripping off the AP feed,"
"Fudged TCO studies show that OS 'A' is cheaper than OS 'B,' and far cheaper than OS 'X'..."
"Microsoft is still evil,"
"An exploit is discovered in Windows that allows...,"
"Will we be able to do in 100 years some ridiculous thing that I've read about in tons of sci-fi novels but is completely pointless in real life?"
... etc. Yes, this is our slashdot.
And having worked with morons, I don't take computer illiteracy for granted. ;) I still remember having to write-protect the *.GRP files on Win 3.1 so my coworkers would stop accidentally deleting program icons from the desktop.