I seem to recal an artical where the Australian Record Industry has been breaking sales recoreds for the past few years. I don't think that its all that strange, though the UK may be doing better then most, no ones really hurting. Except my ears, so much music sucks.
I was in a rush to get out of the house this morning, advice was the wrong word to use, opinion would have been better.
I am worried.
I'm a doctor... you can't have pulmonary "pops." very, very difficult to have an infection or inflammatory process with a normal sed rate. See from this, I get that hes dieing, and he must be, since the poster is a doctor.
Obviously, I have not examined this guy Oh, so he was talking out of his ass. The only difference between me saying, this and that can not happen, or that this and that means this, is that his ass has been educated and therefore has the perception that he must know what he's talking about. That is why its worse for a doctor to just say off-hand things relating to someones health. On top of all that, he goes on to say I'm just not buying in this case. Oh I'm sure that makes everyone feel so much better, especially the poster since he had the amazing wisdom to be able to say that everything anyone has told Pat is wrong.
From what I see here, he's seeing a doctor already, these updates are just for the sake of the community who would be interested in seeing Pat get better. It would be more adventagous to refrain from doing anything more then passing on our best wishes and disscusing the direction that Slackware has taken.
On that note, I'm glad to see some others as official patch contirbuters, Slackware must be a huge undertaking for one person to stay on top of, so this seems like a very good move.
There's only one thing worse then trying to treat yourself, and thats having someone say they are a Doctor and blindly giving advice without having any first hand knowledge, so do Pat a favor and be quiet.
All you'd need to do for most packages is add a line to the SlackBuild:
if [[ "$ARCH" == "Opteron"]]; then OPTIMIZ="-O2 -march=athlon"
fi
change how $ARCH is defined as at the top of the script, or something like that, I don't know what the Opeteron is identified as, and then a build system. You might want to add a/lib-64 and/usr-lib64 or something like that, but it can't be all that hard. glibc has x86_64 as an $ARCH option, so its probably just a matter of going through and altering the rest of the packages.
Making Slackware packages is increadably easy. Maintianing it yourself is a lot easier then any of the others but more importantly, it should be relatively easy for someone(s) to step in and take over. Except for dropline, that looks a little more indepth then your average Slackware package.
What crown jewels? You mean regex and the vast number of pre-existing modules? I think PHP has a long way to go on both counts. I don't know PHP, I hate Python but I like Perl. However, its the modules that make it so much more usefull to me, and thats the reason I stick with it.
Oh boohoo, people have to work long hours. Americans are above that and should be able to slack off at every job and be paid higher then any other workforce in the world. Its an Americans god given right to have a job that pays far more then the employee is worth and slack off at it.
Um, ya. Go read some newsgroup posts from around '90 on the google groups archives. Apperently we were all supposed to be using Moterolas, SPARCS, MIPS or something like it by '95 and have all this Intel crap as just a memory. Hmmm, let me check my systems here, oh look what they have.
Its going to take a hell of a lot more then just a beige PPC box to change the status quo.
What influence? He didn't create an Open Source movement. He founded no companies and the official kernel is used only as a guideline for distros. On his own, Linux would not have become the corporate success that it is on its way to becomming, that is thanks to IBM, Suse, Red Hat et al. If someone doesn't like what he does, they create their own patchset. So what influence does Linus have. He's said that binary drivers are wrong, but that hasn't stopped anyone from asking for them and using them, except those that already agreeded with him, so where is this influence?
Don't get me wrong, I have respect for what hes done and that hes been able to do it, its far more then I can ever see myself being able to do and he deserves every praise for that, but most influencial executive? Thats really streching it.
OK, what if i want it in/opt because/usr is getting full, or because I export/opt but not user? I didn't say make it look like its in/opt, I said put it in/opt
At least I can install something to c:\Other directory instead of everything going into c:\Program files without having to resort to./configure && make && make install, which completely destroys the point of having a packaging system to begin with.
What if I want to install Gimp in/opt/gimp instead of where ever the package maintainer decided to put it, how do I tell apt or rpm to change the location? All in all, its much easier to install software in Windows, especially if you'd like to have some control over your file system.
Welcome to now. What differenciates now from then is administers and programmers don't actually know what they're doing, everything is done via a wizard. As such, people are only interested in games, quick little things, and pretty pictures of how to use the wizards. New admins and programmers are just glorified users.
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I envision less Gentoo users.
I seem to recal an artical where the Australian Record Industry has been breaking sales recoreds for the past few years. I don't think that its all that strange, though the UK may be doing better then most, no ones really hurting. Except my ears, so much music sucks.
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I was in a rush to get out of the house this morning, advice was the wrong word to use, opinion would have been better.
I am worried. I'm a doctor...
you can't have pulmonary "pops."
very, very difficult to have an infection or inflammatory process with a normal sed rate.
See from this, I get that hes dieing, and he must be, since the poster is a doctor.
Obviously, I have not examined this guy
Oh, so he was talking out of his ass. The only difference between me saying, this and that can not happen, or that this and that means this, is that his ass has been educated and therefore has the perception that he must know what he's talking about. That is why its worse for a doctor to just say off-hand things relating to someones health. On top of all that, he goes on to say I'm just not buying in this case. Oh I'm sure that makes everyone feel so much better, especially the poster since he had the amazing wisdom to be able to say that everything anyone has told Pat is wrong.
From what I see here, he's seeing a doctor already, these updates are just for the sake of the community who would be interested in seeing Pat get better. It would be more adventagous to refrain from doing anything more then passing on our best wishes and disscusing the direction that Slackware has taken.
On that note, I'm glad to see some others as official patch contirbuters, Slackware must be a huge undertaking for one person to stay on top of, so this seems like a very good move.
There's only one thing worse then trying to treat yourself, and thats having someone say they are a Doctor and blindly giving advice without having any first hand knowledge, so do Pat a favor and be quiet.
I don't want to hear about other people whining about their hours, so why would I publicly complain about mine?
No different then blogging.
Microsoft is far more concerned in establishing a fan base so they can crush Sony.
Which isn't going to happen any time soon.
I don't know how to write PHP, but I know of it.
Can we please have a way to block these whiney "poor workers at EA have to actually do work stories."
You might want to rethink calling Itanium a complete failure that no one wants.
All you'd need to do for most packages is add a line to the SlackBuild:
/lib-64 and /usr-lib64 or something like that, but it can't be all that hard. glibc has x86_64 as an $ARCH option, so its probably just a matter of going through and altering the rest of the packages.
if [[ "$ARCH" == "Opteron"]]; then
OPTIMIZ="-O2 -march=athlon"
fi
change how $ARCH is defined as at the top of the script, or something like that, I don't know what the Opeteron is identified as, and then a build system. You might want to add a
Making Slackware packages is increadably easy. Maintianing it yourself is a lot easier then any of the others but more importantly, it should be relatively easy for someone(s) to step in and take over. Except for dropline, that looks a little more indepth then your average Slackware package.
What crown jewels? You mean regex and the vast number of pre-existing modules? I think PHP has a long way to go on both counts. I don't know PHP, I hate Python but I like Perl. However, its the modules that make it so much more usefull to me, and thats the reason I stick with it.
Perl was very easy for me to pick up and make usefull. It seems like a very good starting language.
Oh boohoo, people have to work long hours. Americans are above that and should be able to slack off at every job and be paid higher then any other workforce in the world. Its an Americans god given right to have a job that pays far more then the employee is worth and slack off at it.
Um, ya. Go read some newsgroup posts from around '90 on the google groups archives. Apperently we were all supposed to be using Moterolas, SPARCS, MIPS or something like it by '95 and have all this Intel crap as just a memory. Hmmm, let me check my systems here, oh look what they have.
Its going to take a hell of a lot more then just a beige PPC box to change the status quo.
What influence? He didn't create an Open Source movement. He founded no companies and the official kernel is used only as a guideline for distros. On his own, Linux would not have become the corporate success that it is on its way to becomming, that is thanks to IBM, Suse, Red Hat et al. If someone doesn't like what he does, they create their own patchset. So what influence does Linus have. He's said that binary drivers are wrong, but that hasn't stopped anyone from asking for them and using them, except those that already agreeded with him, so where is this influence?
Don't get me wrong, I have respect for what hes done and that hes been able to do it, its far more then I can ever see myself being able to do and he deserves every praise for that, but most influencial executive? Thats really streching it.
I know, and this is the reason its a problem, it shouldn't be like that.
OK, what if i want it in /opt because /usr is getting full, or because I export /opt but not user? I didn't say make it look like its in /opt, I said put it in /opt
At least I can install something to c:\Other directory instead of everything going into c:\Program files without having to resort to ./configure && make && make install, which completely destroys the point of having a packaging system to begin with.
What if I want to install Gimp in /opt/gimp instead of where ever the package maintainer decided to put it, how do I tell apt or rpm to change the location? All in all, its much easier to install software in Windows, especially if you'd like to have some control over your file system.
Welcome to now. What differenciates now from then is administers and programmers don't actually know what they're doing, everything is done via a wizard. As such, people are only interested in games, quick little things, and pretty pictures of how to use the wizards. New admins and programmers are just glorified users.
So challenge it and see if your interpretation of the law stands up.
Either way, we're all better off.