for enterprise-class databases Then don't use MySQL there, and that was my point. There's no shortage of DB products to use, so use the right tool for the job. I never said no one needed stored procedures, triggers or subqueries, I said some people don't need them. Every time a MySQL story comes up, people act like its the only DB around and they're forced to use it.
SAP seems to disagree that MySQL has no place as an enterprise database though.
Check constraints Still don't, or the application can
trigger logic You know what I'm seeing a pattern here. I guess it seems that while MySQL doesn't do everything you want, it does enough of what other people want so it would seem that at least to other people, MySQL does not suck.
As far as not throwing errors, we've either used different versions, or your talking about something I haven't come across, since I've seen MySQL throw plenty of errors.
I never said it wasnt a problem, I said it wasn't an OS problem. I doubt OS X stops you from installing something to your home drive, or modifying your own profiles path and what its login script runs. Windows asks if you really want to run something named setup.exe, and possibly install.exe, but it, OS X, UNIX, Linux and whatnot don't stop you from going out and doing something stupid. You can tell someone 100 times not to install gator, but the moment you turn your back guess whos back. Idiots activly refuse to learn, they actively do stupid things no matter how often you try and teach them otherwise. Thats why spyware exists, and is such a booming business, they have a huge market.
Yes Windows could do with some better security and limiting who installes what to C:\Program Files or C:\Windows, but even if they did, spyware would just install to %USERNAME% and continue to work. Its not an OS problem.
The problem with FF:TSW, was that it wasn't Final Fantasy. Had they simply called it The Spirits Within, it would have been an alright movie, but they called it Final Fantasy. Where was the rousing score, the magic, chocobos, moogles, or summons? Nothing that makes Final Fantasy seprate from any other fantacy title was there, so it became a huge let down. When you hear 'Final Fantasy,' there are somethings you can just expect, and none of that, except for a guy named Cid, was there.
I think that it might have something to do with the phrase 'anti-competitive lawsuit.'
No spyware is not an OS problem, I have Windows machines, I use IE, I do not have a spyware problem. My girlfriend runs Windows, she uses IE, she does not have a spyware problem, and while I may be catagorized as more cluefull then the average user, she is the average user excepting for one thing, she actually learned how to use her computer. Do you consider a person refusing to clean their duct work, or take their car in for a tune up a problem with the house or the car? No its the users fault, and its the same with spyware. How long have people been told, don't click on everything you see? Don't open that mail? Hell its even on the news now. This is a problem with people activly refusing to learn. Spyware writers do not target Windows, they target IDIOTS. There are spyware apps that target Mozilla that do things they shouldn't, so why are there not more? The target is idiots, thats why, you will see more and more targeting Mozilla as more and more of the target audience are convinced to use it.
I highly doubt you'd be able to argue copyright infringement given the extreemly public nature of USENET. Consider it this way, if I make a witty remark in a busy public park, and some writer hears that and puts it in a book, do you really think that I would be able to go after him with a Copyright infringement suit.
How often do you need to run an X app across the wire? So often the MS added remote desktop, which I use often through the week.
How many times do you need to support multiple displays and screens Every day, I have multiple monitors at work.
ancient bloatware package known as "The X Window System." Please explain how X is bloated.
I'd love to see a thin, fast, cross-platform replacement for X. Well from this post I gather you want an X that doesn't have support for things that are finnaly being added into other OS's because they're usefull, and you are of course free to write one. You can have your barely useable X, but I use these features of X that you have deemed 'bloat.'
The grandparent seems to have misspelt the function names. strncpy and strncat are the standard, 'unsafe' functions, OpenBSD replaced them with strlcpy and strlcat as safe functions to do the same thing.
So what. Linus also says you shouldn't be running cards that need binary drivers, so do you completely ignore the benifits of the nvidia driver if you have an nvidia card?
he gave an opinion and said what he uses to do things, but its not gospel. If you like the language, its probably usefull to you.
Most of the major distros have support for SELinux additions either in their base packages or as a subproject, and SELinux was designed to work with Fedora, not Gentoo.
Anyone ever notice that the product advertisments being passed off as stories contain more positive comments by the editors on average if that same product is being sold by Thinkgeek?
Gotta love the xenophobia on Slashdot. Your aware that the 'American Dream' was people leaving the low living conditions they grew up in and go to America and live at a much higher standard right?
windows managers can be used as desktops but desktops (like KDE) somtimes use different windows managers.
Your very close. Obviously Fluxbox and KDE are desktops in the way most people think of them, drawing windows and providing a workspace, but what KDE is that Fluxbox is not is a Desktop environment. A window manager in their most basic form just draws windows on the screen, thats it. Thats not very usable since simply doing that does not give a method to actually run applications, so a menu is added. So thats all it does. Now look at everything KDE does and is. kwin draws windows, kdelibs provides IO slaves to handle background IO, kdenetwork provides access to protocols for every KDE app, and provides the kparts that come together for mail (kmail), news (knode), IM (kopete) and whatnot, all of which then also show up (along with others) in KDE's PIM, kontact. The khtml kpart is available to all apps, along with the file browser component, and so with those and the other kdenetwork kparts, konqueror becomes usable as a browser, file manager, ftp client, or whatnot depending on how its used. There are integrated apps for managing sound, X settings, your kernel config and virtual desktops, and that's just the beginning.
So often with a simple window manager you may have a bunch of apps that do many or all of these functions, but they are separate apps and if they all talk to each other, well your quite lucky. A full desktop environment has all the parts needed for a completely usable system to handle all those parts, and often more then you need, in a very integrated manner that all work together by design.
And how is that any different then if Windows made concessions? You could have said the same thing about Apple, they had to adopt a more UNIX like approach to play nice with everyone else. When your the largest desktop vendor, and you have a large chunk of the entry server market, people do things your way, its always been that way. However if your dead set on having Windows change, there is SFU which has a NIS gateway for UNIX to authenticate against the AD and provides a NFS server.
This idea that Windows will not play well with other OS's on a network is put forward by people with an agenda, they're either vendors selling a competing product, or religious OS zealots who have a very little grasp of reality.
It was a perfectly valid question, between kerberos, OpenLDAP and Samba, it fits in just fine here. So again, exactly how does windows not play nicely in a heterogeneous environment?
I don't think it takes much. I have heard so many stories, from reputable sources, of people just having Dell shirts on and saying they were here to remove some equipment for servicing, of course everyone who works there is more then happy to help. I've also seen equipment mysteriously disappear as if it sprouted legs of its own and walked out.
Bottom line is that most 'secure' installations for networking/communications/IT equipment is secure in name only. Its just not all that hard to remove it.
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You could have wowed her by building a nice fashionable cabinet. It would probably look much better.
for enterprise-class databases
Then don't use MySQL there, and that was my point. There's no shortage of DB products to use, so use the right tool for the job. I never said no one needed stored procedures, triggers or subqueries, I said some people don't need them. Every time a MySQL story comes up, people act like its the only DB around and they're forced to use it.
SAP seems to disagree that MySQL has no place as an enterprise database though.
Need a subquery
Not everyone does
FULL JOIN
Again, not everyone does
Check constraints
Still don't, or the application can
trigger logic
You know what I'm seeing a pattern here. I guess it seems that while MySQL doesn't do everything you want, it does enough of what other people want so it would seem that at least to other people, MySQL does not suck.
As far as not throwing errors, we've either used different versions, or your talking about something I haven't come across, since I've seen MySQL throw plenty of errors.
I never said it wasnt a problem, I said it wasn't an OS problem. I doubt OS X stops you from installing something to your home drive, or modifying your own profiles path and what its login script runs. Windows asks if you really want to run something named setup.exe, and possibly install.exe, but it, OS X, UNIX, Linux and whatnot don't stop you from going out and doing something stupid. You can tell someone 100 times not to install gator, but the moment you turn your back guess whos back. Idiots activly refuse to learn, they actively do stupid things no matter how often you try and teach them otherwise. Thats why spyware exists, and is such a booming business, they have a huge market.
Yes Windows could do with some better security and limiting who installes what to C:\Program Files or C:\Windows, but even if they did, spyware would just install to %USERNAME% and continue to work. Its not an OS problem.
The problem with FF:TSW, was that it wasn't Final Fantasy. Had they simply called it The Spirits Within, it would have been an alright movie, but they called it Final Fantasy. Where was the rousing score, the magic, chocobos, moogles, or summons? Nothing that makes Final Fantasy seprate from any other fantacy title was there, so it became a huge let down. When you hear 'Final Fantasy,' there are somethings you can just expect, and none of that, except for a guy named Cid, was there.
I think that it might have something to do with the phrase 'anti-competitive lawsuit.'
No spyware is not an OS problem, I have Windows machines, I use IE, I do not have a spyware problem. My girlfriend runs Windows, she uses IE, she does not have a spyware problem, and while I may be catagorized as more cluefull then the average user, she is the average user excepting for one thing, she actually learned how to use her computer. Do you consider a person refusing to clean their duct work, or take their car in for a tune up a problem with the house or the car? No its the users fault, and its the same with spyware. How long have people been told, don't click on everything you see? Don't open that mail? Hell its even on the news now. This is a problem with people activly refusing to learn. Spyware writers do not target Windows, they target IDIOTS. There are spyware apps that target Mozilla that do things they shouldn't, so why are there not more? The target is idiots, thats why, you will see more and more targeting Mozilla as more and more of the target audience are convinced to use it.
I highly doubt you'd be able to argue copyright infringement given the extreemly public nature of USENET. Consider it this way, if I make a witty remark in a busy public park, and some writer hears that and puts it in a book, do you really think that I would be able to go after him with a Copyright infringement suit.
I don't know where your going to, but I don't have, and never have had, a problem with spyware, and yes I paid for Windows.
How often do you need to run an X app across the wire?
So often the MS added remote desktop, which I use often through the week.
How many times do you need to support multiple displays and screens
Every day, I have multiple monitors at work.
ancient bloatware package known as "The X Window System."
Please explain how X is bloated.
I'd love to see a thin, fast, cross-platform replacement for X.
Well from this post I gather you want an X that doesn't have support for things that are finnaly being added into other OS's because they're usefull, and you are of course free to write one. You can have your barely useable X, but I use these features of X that you have deemed 'bloat.'
mmmmmmmmmm Alphabet soup. The staple of any corporate diet.
The grandparent seems to have misspelt the function names. strncpy and strncat are the standard, 'unsafe' functions, OpenBSD replaced them with strlcpy and strlcat as safe functions to do the same thing.
Whats wrong with One Night in Bangkok?
So what. Linus also says you shouldn't be running cards that need binary drivers, so do you completely ignore the benifits of the nvidia driver if you have an nvidia card?
he gave an opinion and said what he uses to do things, but its not gospel. If you like the language, its probably usefull to you.
Most of the major distros have support for SELinux additions either in their base packages or as a subproject, and SELinux was designed to work with Fedora, not Gentoo.
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Anyone ever notice that the product advertisments being passed off as stories contain more positive comments by the editors on average if that same product is being sold by Thinkgeek?
Um, no, but I'm new here.
Gotta love the xenophobia on Slashdot. Your aware that the 'American Dream' was people leaving the low living conditions they grew up in and go to America and live at a much higher standard right?
I believe the correct term is 'Mimbo.'
Duhhhhh....WRITING CODE? D'ya THINK?
You sure your not just a secretary who learned some SQL?
Sorry.
windows managers can be used as desktops but desktops (like KDE) somtimes use different windows managers.
Your very close. Obviously Fluxbox and KDE are desktops in the way most people think of them, drawing windows and providing a workspace, but what KDE is that Fluxbox is not is a Desktop environment.
A window manager in their most basic form just draws windows on the screen, thats it. Thats not very usable since simply doing that does not give a method to actually run applications, so a menu is added. So thats all it does.
Now look at everything KDE does and is. kwin draws windows, kdelibs provides IO slaves to handle background IO, kdenetwork provides access to protocols for every KDE app, and provides the kparts that come together for mail (kmail), news (knode), IM (kopete) and whatnot, all of which then also show up (along with others) in KDE's PIM, kontact. The khtml kpart is available to all apps, along with the file browser component, and so with those and the other kdenetwork kparts, konqueror becomes usable as a browser, file manager, ftp client, or whatnot depending on how its used. There are integrated apps for managing sound, X settings, your kernel config and virtual desktops, and that's just the beginning.
So often with a simple window manager you may have a bunch of apps that do many or all of these functions, but they are separate apps and if they all talk to each other, well your quite lucky. A full desktop environment has all the parts needed for a completely usable system to handle all those parts, and often more then you need, in a very integrated manner that all work together by design.
And how is that any different then if Windows made concessions? You could have said the same thing about Apple, they had to adopt a more UNIX like approach to play nice with everyone else. When your the largest desktop vendor, and you have a large chunk of the entry server market, people do things your way, its always been that way. However if your dead set on having Windows change, there is SFU which has a NIS gateway for UNIX to authenticate against the AD and provides a NFS server.
This idea that Windows will not play well with other OS's on a network is put forward by people with an agenda, they're either vendors selling a competing product, or religious OS zealots who have a very little grasp of reality.
It was a perfectly valid question, between kerberos, OpenLDAP and Samba, it fits in just fine here. So again, exactly how does windows not play nicely in a heterogeneous environment?
Exactly how does windows not play nicely in a heterogeneous environment?
Did it hurt to have your sense of humour removed or were you born that way?
Now are we talking Mono the disease, or Mono the .Net environment, because i don't see Mono the .Net environment growing much.
Interstellar Historical Parks?
Intersolar Historical Parks?
Interplanetary Historical Parks?
I don't think it takes much. I have heard so many stories, from reputable sources, of people just having Dell shirts on and saying they were here to remove some equipment for servicing, of course everyone who works there is more then happy to help. I've also seen equipment mysteriously disappear as if it sprouted legs of its own and walked out.
Bottom line is that most 'secure' installations for networking/communications/IT equipment is secure in name only. Its just not all that hard to remove it.