-[Seal] Give me a ping, fish, one ping only.... -[TAG] PING -[Fish] WTF again?!?! -[Seal] GULP -[Humans] Damn, we lost another one... oh well, back to youporn.
It is pretty easy to show no scientific evidence of god is possible (you cannot distinguish a powerful enough entity residing in your reality from god), in fact the simulation example shows one case of a universe having a supernatural dimension and no way to get to it from the inside. So I know God is not a scientific concept. But if it's not about god, or the supernatural dimension hypothesis, why would you consider determining if the universe can be formed from nothing? It is really one in a a zillion other equally arbitrary initial configurations if there is no god, and really one in a a zillion other equally arbitrary initial configurations if there is a god, but some folks mistake cosmetic differences for substantial ones.
That is an intermediate question.The final question is: once you proved, not theoretically modeled but proved, that the universe comes from nothing, can you deny god? Or you have simply declared that a hypothetical god started from an empty universe? Implementation details....
I can hear the hypothetical god laughing and saying: "Yes, I do like zero indexed arrays, you have a problem with that?"
Take a simulation you run, whose self conscious creatures reverse engineered the rules and the initial conditions and all of its evolution over time. Have they proved you inscrutable? Yes, you are. Have they proved you not existing? Impossible because you exist. And you are NOT a god of the simulation, because you are not controlling every aspect of it.
TLDR, derive the "why" or the "who" from the "how" and you have made an assumption. Every time.
Does a game of chess come from a number of things on a board? nope it comes from the understanding of its meaning. Consciousness is in the brain, and possibly in the brain only, like a game is in a PC circuitry, but a game is not electrons traveling through circuits, it is an abstraction, electrons traveling are the implementation of the game. If all people forget about the rules of a game, the game does not exist anymore, even if it is running.
Why am I stating these obvious things? because it is pointless to link implementation details to religion, which is the possibility that reality is not the engine of all other abstractions but an abstraction itself for something else.
In other words, consciousness is obviously a thing in the domain of meaning, so consciousness, emergent or not, links the supposed creatures with the supposed observer. Understanding of the meaning is what links the two together. According to John's gospel you could say that consciousness is a magic that comes only from God, but you could also say that consciousness is sharing the meaning the same way the creator does, and only some do that (sons of god).
Incidentally this is why, when John 1 mentions The Word, and people think it's the scriptures, I rather get back to the greek word Logos, which describes the meaning rather than the utterance. Not an impersonal meaning, a personified one.
The games I play feel different enough when played on the same pc, same driver, fixed function vs glsl path. But I agree. The problem is that many games are not benchmarks, as the entire category used to be.
well, in a way it makes sense as a way to increase the likelihood that you consider getting a phone wth more space instead of a bigger card. Ridiculous that a linux based OS can't be flexible with storage devices.
If you claim you know the sysadmin of a system, those not believing you should not discuss what powers does a sysadmin have, because those are there by definition of sysadmin, no matter if there is one, or is dead, or the system has been installed by mistake and is not doing any work. They either believe you or not. It's that easy.
Forcing others to believe your claim is still wrong, besides I don't recall Jesus H. Christ forcing anybody to follow him, but for each religion the truth is one and universal, I don't see why this poses a problem, the universality of a truth you don't believe in is irrelevant.
It seems to me that, whatever the undiscoverable truth is, our spiritual needs have no power over it. In other words, God is there but not because you need it, or God isn't there but not because you don't need it.
This is like saying the editor of a film can't decide the ending because he let the actors improvise. You are mistaking editor for spectator.
A hypothetical creator, creator of time itself together with all the rest, can design randomly evolving stuff that ends up exactly the way he wants, because he is not bound by time. A creator can build an end and let the beginning evolve freely from it, there is no cause/effect outside time, only correlation. More precisely there is no "beginning" nor "end", those are concepts defined from the POV of someone travelling in spacetime, they make no sense whatsoever outside of it.
If I tell you "imagine a circle" do you have to start imagining the circle at some point and doing some rotation to be drawn or are you able to simply imagine all of it in one step?
This is not religion, guys, this is logic. Please, stop being more inconsistent than whatever "god told me so" religion ever invented. Captcha: sharpest.
> There's no real way to prevent it other than subsidizing them, and then how is that really better than the government running the entire thing?
It is no better for you, ordinary citizen. It is better for the company who enjoys both aspects of independence and government work. In a perfect world no private company would want to work with government, because the government would want to get the maximum benefit for the least price possible and take precedence over whatever issues you have with that.
Private companies lining up to get work from governments means "corruption" or "deep crisis", none of which is very good.
The obvious reason for such a beam is some alien kid playing with his xray toy pointer. That, or possibly theoretical models that put 95% of stuff into not yet observed dark matter/dark energy are still a bit immature.
I was thinking along your lines, instead of getting rid of all the video, though, I think people would get back to the habit of downloading and sharing stuff via local networks or sneakernet, and discover ways to keep local storage in sync like with git annex. Also, online content that is DRM and stream-only would suffer. But this would make some big interests very upset, and Hungary government is no match for them, so they will find some way to curb alternative uses of networking. This means that we won't see again the chaotic but decidedly more interesting landscape of 20 years ago (last days of BBS, usenet, internet protocols instead of web based centralized megasites).
Emacs is neatly packaged so you can install only the things you like, just as debian does for python, ruby, and lots other environments (emacs is more like them than a mere editor).
>The Soviet Union launched some reactor-powered radar satellites (RORSAT) that now sit in graveyard orbits. Some of them crashed, too.
Unfortunately they crashed in China, and when they complained about LOLSATs who couldn't keep their orbit nobody took them seriously.
-[Seal] Give me a ping, fish, one ping only....
-[TAG] PING
-[Fish] WTF again?!?!
-[Seal] GULP
-[Humans] Damn, we lost another one... oh well, back to youporn.
> What state would the man be in after 10 years in space?
The "Bored" state.
$ echo locate
locate
$
IT WORKS
But, emacs users piti-vi!
It is a funnier argument when misapplication of science is involved.
Good but if everybody shared your position, god would have not come up in the thread earlier.
It is pretty easy to show no scientific evidence of god is possible (you cannot distinguish a powerful enough entity residing in your reality from god), in fact the simulation example shows one case of a universe having a supernatural dimension and no way to get to it from the inside. So I know God is not a scientific concept.
But if it's not about god, or the supernatural dimension hypothesis, why would you consider determining if the universe can be formed from nothing? It is really one in a a zillion other equally arbitrary initial configurations if there is no god, and really one in a a zillion other equally arbitrary initial configurations if there is a god, but some folks mistake cosmetic differences for substantial ones.
That is an intermediate question.The final question is: once you proved, not theoretically modeled but proved, that the universe comes from nothing, can you deny god? Or you have simply declared that a hypothetical god started from an empty universe? Implementation details....
I can hear the hypothetical god laughing and saying: "Yes, I do like zero indexed arrays, you have a problem with that?"
Take a simulation you run, whose self conscious creatures reverse engineered the rules and the initial conditions and all of its evolution over time. Have they proved you inscrutable? Yes, you are. Have they proved you not existing? Impossible because you exist. And you are NOT a god of the simulation, because you are not controlling every aspect of it.
TLDR, derive the "why" or the "who" from the "how" and you have made an assumption. Every time.
Does a game of chess come from a number of things on a board? nope it comes from the understanding of its meaning.
Consciousness is in the brain, and possibly in the brain only, like a game is in a PC circuitry, but a game is not electrons traveling through circuits, it is an abstraction, electrons traveling are the implementation of the game. If all people forget about the rules of a game, the game does not exist anymore, even if it is running.
Why am I stating these obvious things? because it is pointless to link implementation details to religion, which is the possibility that reality is not the engine of all other abstractions but an abstraction itself for something else.
In other words, consciousness is obviously a thing in the domain of meaning, so consciousness, emergent or not, links the supposed creatures with the supposed observer. Understanding of the meaning is what links the two together. According to John's gospel you could say that consciousness is a magic that comes only from God, but you could also say that consciousness is sharing the meaning the same way the creator does, and only some do that (sons of god).
Incidentally this is why, when John 1 mentions The Word, and people think it's the scriptures, I rather get back to the greek word Logos, which describes the meaning rather than the utterance. Not an impersonal meaning, a personified one.
The games I play feel different enough when played on the same pc, same driver, fixed function vs glsl path. But I agree. The problem is that many games are not benchmarks, as the entire category used to be.
On the other hand, inaccuracies for reason others than hiding or underlining AGW may well become statistical noise instead of sabotage
well, in a way it makes sense as a way to increase the likelihood that you consider getting a phone wth more space instead of a bigger card. Ridiculous that a linux based OS can't be flexible with storage devices.
Except that "Can you say something nice about X?" is a defensive question.
Except that a handful of devs ditched systemd for runit and have a 4000 package distro called voidlinux and it seems to hold pretty well.
Why can't others do the same?
> RTFA
Not even once.
A: the insurance companies.
> People wanted change and they didn't get it.
FTFY
If you claim you know the sysadmin of a system, those not believing you should not discuss what powers does a sysadmin have, because those are there by definition of sysadmin, no matter if there is one, or is dead, or the system has been installed by mistake and is not doing any work. They either believe you or not. It's that easy.
Forcing others to believe your claim is still wrong, besides I don't recall Jesus H. Christ forcing anybody to follow him, but for each religion the truth is one and universal, I don't see why this poses a problem, the universality of a truth you don't believe in is irrelevant.
It seems to me that, whatever the undiscoverable truth is, our spiritual needs have no power over it.
In other words, God is there but not because you need it, or God isn't there but not because you don't need it.
"we know it's not designed"
This is like saying the editor of a film can't decide the ending because he let the actors improvise. You are mistaking editor for spectator.
A hypothetical creator, creator of time itself together with all the rest, can design randomly evolving stuff that ends up exactly the way he wants, because he is not bound by time. A creator can build an end and let the beginning evolve freely from it, there is no cause/effect outside time, only correlation. More precisely there is no "beginning" nor "end", those are concepts defined from the POV of someone travelling in spacetime, they make no sense whatsoever outside of it.
If I tell you "imagine a circle" do you have to start imagining the circle at some point and doing some rotation to be drawn or are you able to simply imagine all of it in one step?
This is not religion, guys, this is logic. Please, stop being more inconsistent than whatever "god told me so" religion ever invented. Captcha: sharpest.
> There's no real way to prevent it other than subsidizing them, and then how is that really better than the government running the entire thing?
It is no better for you, ordinary citizen. It is better for the company who enjoys both aspects of independence and government work.
In a perfect world no private company would want to work with government, because the government would want to get the maximum benefit for the least price possible and take precedence over whatever issues you have with that.
Private companies lining up to get work from governments means "corruption" or "deep crisis", none of which is very good.
The obvious reason for such a beam is some alien kid playing with his xray toy pointer.
That, or possibly theoretical models that put 95% of stuff into not yet observed dark matter/dark energy are still a bit immature.
I was thinking along your lines, instead of getting rid of all the video, though, I think people would get back to the habit of downloading and sharing stuff via local networks or sneakernet, and discover ways to keep local storage in sync like with git annex. Also, online content that is DRM and stream-only would suffer.
But this would make some big interests very upset, and Hungary government is no match for them, so they will find some way to curb alternative uses of networking. This means that we won't see again the chaotic but decidedly more interesting landscape of 20 years ago (last days of BBS, usenet, internet protocols instead of web based centralized megasites).
Emacs is neatly packaged so you can install only the things you like, just as debian does for python, ruby, and lots other environments (emacs is more like them than a mere editor).
Because, I repeat, it is not cancer.