To seriously respond: I decided that the conversation/tirade/rant/whatever was kinda stupid and I was attempting to discontinue it.
You have very strong opinions, and they are clouding your ability to listen to what I am saying without significant distortion. Hence, we are not in the same frame of reference, and a conversation is worth while. This is more of a 'don't talk to the crazy people' motive than a passive aggressive one.
Good point. It is much less complex dealing with abstraction in multiple languages on multiple machines than to read law/medical books...
Actually, the fields are too different to compare meaningfully. That said, you clearly have a problem with the way geeks think/act, and I am disinclined to knock that chip off your shoulder.
Yeah, treat support people decently, and they will usually do good by you... whether in person or on the phone/email.
Particularly in techie fields, I try to build a rapport with the person who is helping me. If they are having computer difficulties, give em a 'yeah, I work all day with computers and they are a pain sometimes' or 'I've been there man, no worries', and you're MUCH more likely to get help.
Not that this should be limited to tech support. Treating folks decently shouldn't really be a special thing... And for god's sake, don't treat the kid at McDonalds like shit. He's got a crappy job, just like you did at 16, give him a break!
Aw, give her a break, maybe she didn't know how extreme the closeup was...
Now, she probably should have questioned the 300 takes the director requested...
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Ah, it's poke-at-the-geeks-friday, eh? Fun, but fairly useless.
You have to understand, the most 'geek' types are highly intelligent (by definition, more than the average) and they/we know it. Moreover, we spend a lot more time than average improving our knowledge and skills. Does this make geeks 'better people'? Nope, but they don't have the same interests as the masses, which is exactly who those shows are designed for...
Most geeks couldn't give a fuck about 'reality tv', and the like. They live in a slightly different reality, where things like 'which languages are better for task X' are important...
Here's something to consider: What is the difference between a geek looking down on (subjectively) stupid activities, and you looking down on (subjectively) arrogant behavior? Is one particularly worse than the other?
This would effectively roll the web back to 1994. Most folks don't want that.
The web works by the 'you can't please all of the people all of the time' model... it's just not possible. So we try to accomodate 95% or so, and live with the complaints from the remaining 5%.
It is a royal pain to design for many display types, yet most of us (professional) web geeks do. To expect us to be able to handle all clients, when the clients don't hold to standards, is not realistic.
It's getting scarier every day. We now have a president who's official statements are bible quotes... Given how uber-conservative the current administration/congress is trying to make the country, the backlash in a couple of years is going to be interesting... presuming that we are still allowed to have opinions of our own by then...
Texas laws are bizarre... I've never been in Dallas, but Austin, the state capital, has like 20 strip clubs, as well as several 'adult book stores'.
What's really weird is that some of the clubs (and restaurants are the same way) are in 'dry' areas, so you can't buy beer, but you can bring it.
A, uh... friend, told me about an odd night sitting in a strip club where you couldn't buy a beer, but could bring in a big cooler of 'em and enjoy all you like. weirdness.
(offtopic) Also in a dry county, sans the nude women, is The Salt Lick restaurant. They tell you on the phone you can bring in beer, and even though it's a million miles from anywhere, it is the best BBQ in the world!
Yeah, the last couple of years in the tents have been pretty nasty. They need a bigger hotel anyway, the con is too big when you have to wait in line in that heay for a seat at a talk...
Yeah, and in many states that is being made into a law currently... I am astonished that it wasn't already universal. I mean, it's a buzzkill, sure, but it only seems fair to stop, y'know?
The point is, a sysadmin can patch and update winders machines remotely and en masse. If he doesn't know about the linux machine, then he obviously has a hole in his security plan.
Many things in life are unnecessary. If you think that I, a total stranger, can _make_ you angry... well, you might want to reconsider that opinion. The victim mentality won't do a lot of good for you in life.
I was trying to make a point that you seemed to be missing rather badly. It seems that you get the point, but disagree with it. Such is your right. Cheers.
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To seriously respond: I decided that the conversation/tirade/rant/whatever was kinda stupid and I was attempting to discontinue it.
You have very strong opinions, and they are clouding your ability to listen to what I am saying without significant distortion. Hence, we are not in the same frame of reference, and a conversation is worth while. This is more of a 'don't talk to the crazy people' motive than a passive aggressive one.
Lemme get this straight... you are making a judgement call on a complete stranger, given a few lines of anonymous text... and I'm arrogant? cool...
Sincerely,
Sparky
Good point. It is much less complex dealing with abstraction in multiple languages on multiple machines than to read law/medical books...
Actually, the fields are too different to compare meaningfully. That said, you clearly have a problem with the way geeks think/act, and I am disinclined to knock that chip off your shoulder.
toodles.
I wonder... she's probably naked for 5-10 minutes of screentime... modesty was probably not a huge issue anymore.
Yeah, treat support people decently, and they will usually do good by you... whether in person or on the phone/email.
Particularly in techie fields, I try to build a rapport with the person who is helping me. If they are having computer difficulties, give em a 'yeah, I work all day with computers and they are a pain sometimes' or 'I've been there man, no worries', and you're MUCH more likely to get help.
Not that this should be limited to tech support. Treating folks decently shouldn't really be a special thing... And for god's sake, don't treat the kid at McDonalds like shit. He's got a crappy job, just like you did at 16, give him a break!
Aw, give her a break, maybe she didn't know how extreme the closeup was...
Now, she probably should have questioned the 300 takes the director requested...
Ah, it's poke-at-the-geeks-friday, eh? Fun, but fairly useless.
You have to understand, the most 'geek' types are highly intelligent (by definition, more than the average) and they/we know it. Moreover, we spend a lot more time than average improving our knowledge and skills. Does this make geeks 'better people'? Nope, but they don't have the same interests as the masses, which is exactly who those shows are designed for...
Most geeks couldn't give a fuck about 'reality tv', and the like. They live in a slightly different reality, where things like 'which languages are better for task X' are important...
Here's something to consider: What is the difference between a geek looking down on (subjectively) stupid activities, and you looking down on (subjectively) arrogant behavior? Is one particularly worse than the other?
just a thought, I could be wrong.
Sharon Stone is a very smart woman... your point is?
design has its place too. plain text is fine for computers, but human beings use visual cues very well, hence the popularity of the graphical web.
We can play 'things ain't the way they used to be' all day long, but it's just mental masturbation...
Thank you for getting my point!
This would effectively roll the web back to 1994. Most folks don't want that.
The web works by the 'you can't please all of the people all of the time' model... it's just not possible. So we try to accomodate 95% or so, and live with the complaints from the remaining 5%.
It is a royal pain to design for many display types, yet most of us (professional) web geeks do. To expect us to be able to handle all clients, when the clients don't hold to standards, is not realistic.
It's getting scarier every day. We now have a president who's official statements are bible quotes... Given how uber-conservative the current administration/congress is trying to make the country, the backlash in a couple of years is going to be interesting... presuming that we are still allowed to have opinions of our own by then...
if you're gonna troll, you might as well make it interesting man...
Given the texan enamoration with "ol' sparky", I heard a comedian they other day claim that there's a big sign at the texan border:
"Welcome to Texas. Don't fuck up!"
Texas laws are bizarre... I've never been in Dallas, but Austin, the state capital, has like 20 strip clubs, as well as several 'adult book stores'.
:)
What's really weird is that some of the clubs (and restaurants are the same way) are in 'dry' areas, so you can't buy beer, but you can bring it.
A, uh... friend, told me about an odd night sitting in a strip club where you couldn't buy a beer, but could bring in a big cooler of 'em and enjoy all you like. weirdness.
(offtopic)
Also in a dry county, sans the nude women, is The Salt Lick restaurant. They tell you on the phone you can bring in beer, and even though it's a million miles from anywhere, it is the best BBQ in the world!
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I missed the rain, luckily.
Yeah, the last couple of years in the tents have been pretty nasty. They need a bigger hotel anyway, the con is too big when you have to wait in line in that heay for a seat at a talk...
Yeah, and in many states that is being made into a law currently... I am astonished that it wasn't already universal. I mean, it's a buzzkill, sure, but it only seems fair to stop, y'know?
I was at defcon, and it was 9 million friggin' degrees all weekend (I have the sunburn to prove it).
Unless of course they did it before I awoke at noon each day...
That's not too bad... I got brainwashed so bad that I think I've been paid for over a year doing Java work...
The point is, a sysadmin can patch and update winders machines remotely and en masse. If he doesn't know about the linux machine, then he obviously has a hole in his security plan.
It'd most likely be patent infringement, yup.
Many things in life are unnecessary. If you think that I, a total stranger, can _make_ you angry... well, you might want to reconsider that opinion. The victim mentality won't do a lot of good for you in life.
I was trying to make a point that you seemed to be missing rather badly. It seems that you get the point, but disagree with it. Such is your right. Cheers.
Different issue. You can't duplicate the camera and send it to 10,000 of your closest friends.
I dunno... you could do some sweet things if you could get CCDs that cheap... I'm thinking of cheap robotics.
They have those... they use 'em to do 'bullet time'