why do you think the Wii is absolutely crushing the PS3 and 360.
Price.
And not spending any resources (R&D costs and time, hardware features, anti-piracy lockdown technologies, documentation, marketing...) on enabling multi-OS support certainly helps to keep the price lower. Or in the Wii's case, profit margins higher, I suppose.
Second, yes, it matters. If the argument is, "Hey, meteorites have delivered organics, but Earth already had plenty," fine, but a) That's not what people, especially researchers, keep saying. b) No one cares if there's no connection to the terrestrial biogenesis. (OK, not no one. It's an interesting datum, but it lacks the cache to get published in the popular press.)
The interesting/important bit is, could all the necessary step, all the necessary chemical reactions, have happened on pre-biotic Earth fast enough or at all. Different phases needed in the development of self-replicating organic systems (ie. "life") require different environment (chemicals present, pH, temperature, radiation, all that...).
I'd say it's more than likely that some essential molecules formed in space and then landed on Earth, because there were no suitable environment on Earth for them to form (in sufficient quantities).
On the other hand, life developing completely on/in an asteroid or comet sounds unlikely for the same reason: environment might not varied enough for all the necessary chemical steps to take place.
Kids shouldn't have a say. If the parents are doing their jobs, it won't matter who the restaurants prey upon.
...and when the parents aren't doing their jobs? The kids should take responsibility of themselves, or suffer the consequences (in this case consequences of being overweight junk food addicts)?
Oh well, just an "unintended consequence" of progress, like with global warming. !
Please don't lump an obvious consequence of man's actions with one which is still in dispute. Anthropogenic global warming has not been established as a credible theory.
Neither has anthropogenic drying up of Aral sea been proven. It could be just natural change that has nothing to do with human re-routing the water a bit on its way to the Aral... The water level there has changed previously, and it will change again, changes are part of the natural cycles of our planet. Just because it used to be in a communist country doesn't automatically mean any apparent "destruction" (which really is just change, not "destruction") was caused by the commies.
Try browsing some threads on Usenet using your 386, then try browsing threads on some Javascript driven web based discussion system, and see which is faster;).
Especially try browsing some threads with web links containing stuff the discussion is about...
Also, people want access from more than one computer, which pretty much mandates either web based service or an SSH connection to a server.
And if you're actually thinking about using 386 as a text terminal connecting to a server, then it'll even struggle with SSH authentication (logging in will take a while) and even with encryption (noticeable lag).
Also, at least I consider ability to scroll quickly back and forth through long texts essential, even with discussion forums. A 386 can't really do that very well either.
Yea I love my 386 as much as any other retro nerd, but damn man it sits next to a 2.8ghz multicore with more ram than my 386 has hard disk space
spend the 100$ to get a machine made within the last 5 years
And yet the 386 with a good newsreader is faster than a 8 gig 64 bit i7 mambo nuclear system with bad ajax. Where is the progress again? And why do I want to pay for that?
Download a 2+ megapixel jpg image from a newsgroup and view it with that 386. Then do same with the i7. You'll see the progress.
Why would hunting and gathering be considered any less civilized than running a hog farm or meat packing plant?
"Civilization" is produced by other people than food producers. Except in hunter-gatherer societies, these other people don't exist, everybody needs to be a food producer, so there's no "civilization" either.
(Of course today and in the industrialized world, same people can have time both for food and culture production, but that's a very recent development.)
Last year the NYPD discovered over 6,000 victims of caller ID spoofing, who together lost a total of $15 million.
It's this already called fraud?
If the intended victim doesn't fall for it, or if the fraudster doesn't even try it (after getting some information from intended victim and decides to move on), it's not so clear if it's fraud. But under this bill, it'll still be a caller ID spoofing crime.
most people won't understand that there is no energy advantage to be had from burning corn in a cow vs. in a car
Well, there's the thing that turning a cow off in a thermodynamic sense is rather permanent. So if the cow is a must-have anyway, and burning corn in the cow can't be avoided, then one might as well extract some of that corn's energy for electricity generation. It's bound to be a net win. And if some plain grass (much harder to burn in a car compared to corn) is going to be burnt in the cow, then it's even better.
These days US is (by traditional US thinking) a socialist country too, where other people end up paying for other peoples mistakes (such as getting ill by smoking, getting obese by cheap HFCS-filled foods). And if you pay for it, you should get to have a say about it...
This has nothing to do with socialism or having to pay for the health care costs of others which may or may not be due to their own personal choices. This has everything to do with the federal government over-stepping their authority, and exerting power they were not granted in the constitution thereby threatening the very freedom this country was founded on. You don't like HFCS, that's fine, all food products have been required to be labeled so that you know its in there and you can make the choice to eat it or not. It's not the governments purpose, role, or place to make these decisions for anybody. It is their place to provide (or require it to be provided) the correct and necessary information for the people to make their own choices. And yes, freedom includes the ability to choose to do the wrong thing. But along with it is the responsibility to accept the consequences of ones decisions. The accepting responsibility part is what is wrong in this country, nobody does it or is expected to do it. This is the root of the problem. Address it and all of the side-effects will be taken care of.
Freedom includes, not just ability, but also responsibility to make the choice. When people stop making choices, others do the choices for them. When too many people let others to make choices for them, government should step in if bad choices are consistently being done (like food industry consistently produces cheap crap containing just energy without other nutrients).
Total ban on HFCS would go too far, but limiting how much there can be in food could be a good idea... Or just explicitly exposing food industry to obesity lawsuits (compare to lawsuits against tobacco industry).
NO THEY SHOULDN'T!!!! If you live in the USA and feel this way get out or get shot!
These days US is (by traditional US thinking) a socialist country too, where other people end up paying for other peoples mistakes (such as getting ill by smoking, getting obese by cheap HFCS-filled foods). And if you pay for it, you should get to have a say about it...
HFCS should be made into bio-fuel (or whatever), using it in food should be banned.
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Ubuntu pretty much only restarts for kernel updates, but if you install Ksplice, even those go away.
Of course, if you upgraded any of the more commonly used libraries, then just rebooting is much more reliable way of making sure the previous version of the library is not used by any daemon or other background process. Only if there's a very strong reason to not reboot, it makes sense to upgrade libraries or other core components without reboot (note: such an upgrade without rebooting may be cool, but cool doesn't mean sensible or wise).
(In case you didn't know, in Unix a file stays in existence as long as it's open, even if you "rm" all directory entries linked to that file, and only way to make sure a file is totally gone is to restart every process that just might use it.)
Implementing the "take away your ethernet cable" punishment seems more effective than kludging together some hybrid Active Directory OpenWRT API-based webpage that's may or may not be easy to circumvent and requires specialized knowledge and lots of time to administer and check up on.
I can see it now... Parent hits "shut down now" but then runs into the bedroom to see if it's working...
At which point, the power button is only inches away....:-P
Slashdot. News for nerds. Stuff that matters.
You can keep your archaic "manually remove something" and "use the power button". Let us keep our geek stuff. Some people never fully grow up into serious non-nonsense drones, and we're proud of it too.
Eventually, earth will just be a retirement planet, where its nature and remaining resources are protected and safe from development, and can be treated like the rare and delicate jewel that it is.
How's this going to happen? I don't see us shipping billions of people off-world, so a drastic reduction in human birthrates on Earth would have to be achieved if you want to keep humans from filling every niche. Is that likely to happen?
Yes, in 1st world countries I think that it is very likely, since its already happening.
That's only temporary. Evolution will weed out those that currently "underachieve" in reproduction, whatever the cause. For example, if the reason is wanting to enjoy the comforts of modern society without interfering kids, then in a few generations, most people will have very strong maternal/paternal urges, because evolution is right now in the process of weeding out those that prefer life without kids...
The whole reason this is important, and that no-one seems to be talking about here, is that we need another planet. There's no way we can sustain our current population on this planet into the future, and the population is growing. People will start to die en mass and life will become tragic and harsh for a much higher ratio of people (currently, thats just life in the worst places to live). We need to figure out how to create contained ecosystems and how to use the resources of other planets (and moons and asteroids and dwarf planets and eventually exoplanets). Some work is going to get done in LEO for sure, but advancing the knowledge of how to actually exist on another planet will always be valuable and important progress. Eventually, earth will just be a retirement planet, where its nature and remaining resources are protected and safe from development, and can be treated like the rare and delicate jewel that it is.
Starting space colonization will do nothing to the poor masses here on earth, and especially it'll do nothing to population growth. Only thing it may do is save human species in case something bad happens to Earth. Ok, well, there's one related thing that may help, and that's figuring out a way to get very cheap energy from space (such as beaming down 100% reliable solar energy). And being able to do that might be a prerequisite for efficient space colonization (considering that solar arrays are probably much easier to manufacture in space than nuclear reactors). But more energy would just mean more population growth, so that'd just buy us some time to figure out a way to overcome the unstoppable force of evolution (which acts on anything that reproduces itself under limited resources) and limit our population to remain under the carrying capacity of the environment.
Really? So NASA can't send an unmanned lander to the lunar surface?
First of all, NASA has done this several times. Second of all, NASA is great at seeking proposals to do things they won't do, which is all the story from the ESA side is at this point. And lastly, I want do to do things NASA can't, who doesn't? You know, like, get/. to stop posting shitty stories.
Read the summary (which probably has nothing to do with TFA, but that's beside the point). NASA can't, because NASA doesn't have the money to do it.
Of course ESA won't have the money either, but headline just says ESA wants to do it, so no problem there;-)
That's the thing. I haven't seen a real example of DLL hell in years. Most people either statically compile everything or they just ship all the needed dlls to the installed folder.
Indeed. And due to this, these days this bloat has gotten so bad, that applications and duplicate DLLs may take whopping 10% of your hard disk space (or even more if you have an exceptionally small hard disk). And better not calculate how much this hard disk space costs, it's mind-boggling!
Then fire up Qt Creator, go to welcome screen getting started tab, and dig into the rather interesting and well-documented examples. Hint: QGraphicsView combined with OpenGL is probably the way to the future, especially if you're not interested in building traditional boring GUI applications.
If you want a little more help getting started, google "qt tutorial" for more adding-features-step-by-step type stuff.
Actually, when you objectively observe world and study human history, you'll come to the logical conclusion that religion is by far the most enduring and effective way to maintain a culture.
This is where I start banging my head against the keyboard. You didn't just move the goalposts, you picked them up and started sprinting.
There was talk about "transporting" culture above. Wether you take "transporting" to mean transfering to future generations, or spreading to other areas and to other people, religion is very effective at that. And along with religion, other aspects of "civilization" get "transported".
Now I notice you talked about "transforming" and apparently mean internal change in culture, so I didn't read too carefully, my bad.
Though I don't know if religion works against that very much either. The cultural transformation of last century has come about because of technology, and I don't see religion having slowed it down much. People like to stick to what they know, be it religion or ideology or just some sort of personal principles, and that's what slows things down, as well as "external" factors (it's pretty clear that Africa has been held back because of the mess created by colonialism in the preceding centuries, for example).
If you really think that religion is the only way - or even a particularly effective way - of transforming a culture, then you're suffering from a paucity of both information and imagination.
Actually, when you objectively observe world and study human history, you'll come to the logical conclusion that religion is by far the most enduring and effective way to maintain a culture. Name one culture that has lasted for, say, just 500 years, which didn't have a strong religious identity, which wasn't a culture of religion.
You could even say that current/recent religions are those that were fittest in (cultural) evolutionary sense. And they were the fittest because they survived and spread. For example some might say that religion in medieval Europe held other kind of development back, and it's even true to a degree, but looking at what happened (European nations had worldwide empires a few generations later), it certainly held Europe back less than anything anywhere else in the World (as evidenced by the fact that nothing else from anywhere in the world successfully conquered Europe ).
Not quite true. You may lose "power assisted" braking and steering but the wheel will still steer the car and the brakes will still work, it will just take a little more effort. Those old enough will remember a time before power assisted steering and braking.
Though generally a power-assisted steering without power needs quite a bit more muscle than steering that was designed to be non-power-assisted. And same for braking, drum brakes are actually sort of "self-assisting" and non-power-assisted brakes generally were drums I think, while these days power-assisted disc brakes are more common, and braking effectively without power assist is much harder with disk brakes (no "self-assist"), especially if you at the same time are trying to steer without power assist...
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That's what pgAdmin is for.
Oh, no, so so wrong.
Ruby on Rails is for database applications.
Except it isn't exactly geared towards your average end user, which is also why it's better for those who can use it.
Price.
And not spending any resources (R&D costs and time, hardware features, anti-piracy lockdown technologies, documentation, marketing...) on enabling multi-OS support certainly helps to keep the price lower. Or in the Wii's case, profit margins higher, I suppose.
Second, yes, it matters. If the argument is, "Hey, meteorites have delivered organics, but Earth already had plenty," fine, but
a) That's not what people, especially researchers, keep saying.
b) No one cares if there's no connection to the terrestrial biogenesis. (OK, not no one. It's an interesting datum, but it lacks the cache to get published in the popular press.)
The interesting/important bit is, could all the necessary step, all the necessary chemical reactions, have happened on pre-biotic Earth fast enough or at all. Different phases needed in the development of self-replicating organic systems (ie. "life") require different environment (chemicals present, pH, temperature, radiation, all that...).
I'd say it's more than likely that some essential molecules formed in space and then landed on Earth, because there were no suitable environment on Earth for them to form (in sufficient quantities).
On the other hand, life developing completely on/in an asteroid or comet sounds unlikely for the same reason: environment might not varied enough for all the necessary chemical steps to take place.
Kids shouldn't have a say. If the parents are doing their jobs, it won't matter who the restaurants prey upon.
...and when the parents aren't doing their jobs? The kids should take responsibility of themselves, or suffer the consequences (in this case consequences of being overweight junk food addicts)?
There are also many instances where something is illegal, but not wrong.
Not according to the law...
Oh well, just an "unintended consequence" of progress, like with global warming. !
Please don't lump an obvious consequence of man's actions with one which is still in dispute. Anthropogenic global warming has not been established as a credible theory.
Neither has anthropogenic drying up of Aral sea been proven. It could be just natural change that has nothing to do with human re-routing the water a bit on its way to the Aral... The water level there has changed previously, and it will change again, changes are part of the natural cycles of our planet. Just because it used to be in a communist country doesn't automatically mean any apparent "destruction" (which really is just change, not "destruction") was caused by the commies.
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Try browsing some threads on Usenet using your 386, then try browsing threads on some Javascript driven web based discussion system, and see which is faster ;).
Especially try browsing some threads with web links containing stuff the discussion is about...
Also, people want access from more than one computer, which pretty much mandates either web based service or an SSH connection to a server.
And if you're actually thinking about using 386 as a text terminal connecting to a server, then it'll even struggle with SSH authentication (logging in will take a while) and even with encryption (noticeable lag).
Also, at least I consider ability to scroll quickly back and forth through long texts essential, even with discussion forums. A 386 can't really do that very well either.
Yea I love my 386 as much as any other retro nerd, but damn man it sits next to a 2.8ghz multicore with more ram than my 386 has hard disk space
spend the 100$ to get a machine made within the last 5 years
And yet the 386 with a good newsreader is faster than a 8 gig 64 bit i7 mambo nuclear system with bad ajax. Where is the progress again? And why do I want to pay for that?
Download a 2+ megapixel jpg image from a newsgroup and view it with that 386. Then do same with the i7. You'll see the progress.
Why would hunting and gathering be considered any less civilized than running a hog farm or meat packing plant?
"Civilization" is produced by other people than food producers. Except in hunter-gatherer societies, these other people don't exist, everybody needs to be a food producer, so there's no "civilization" either.
(Of course today and in the industrialized world, same people can have time both for food and culture production, but that's a very recent development.)
Last year the NYPD discovered over 6,000 victims of caller ID spoofing, who together lost a total of $15 million.
It's this already called fraud?
If the intended victim doesn't fall for it, or if the fraudster doesn't even try it (after getting some information from intended victim and decides to move on), it's not so clear if it's fraud. But under this bill, it'll still be a caller ID spoofing crime.
most people won't understand that there is no energy advantage to be had from burning corn in a cow vs. in a car
Well, there's the thing that turning a cow off in a thermodynamic sense is rather permanent. So if the cow is a must-have anyway, and burning corn in the cow can't be avoided, then one might as well extract some of that corn's energy for electricity generation. It's bound to be a net win. And if some plain grass (much harder to burn in a car compared to corn) is going to be burnt in the cow, then it's even better.
These days US is (by traditional US thinking) a socialist country too, where other people end up paying for other peoples mistakes (such as getting ill by smoking, getting obese by cheap HFCS-filled foods). And if you pay for it, you should get to have a say about it...
This has nothing to do with socialism or having to pay for the health care costs of others which may or may not be due to their own personal choices. This has everything to do with the federal government over-stepping their authority, and exerting power they were not granted in the constitution thereby threatening the very freedom this country was founded on. You don't like HFCS, that's fine, all food products have been required to be labeled so that you know its in there and you can make the choice to eat it or not. It's not the governments purpose, role, or place to make these decisions for anybody. It is their place to provide (or require it to be provided) the correct and necessary information for the people to make their own choices. And yes, freedom includes the ability to choose to do the wrong thing. But along with it is the responsibility to accept the consequences of ones decisions. The accepting responsibility part is what is wrong in this country, nobody does it or is expected to do it. This is the root of the problem. Address it and all of the side-effects will be taken care of.
Freedom includes, not just ability, but also responsibility to make the choice. When people stop making choices, others do the choices for them. When too many people let others to make choices for them, government should step in if bad choices are consistently being done (like food industry consistently produces cheap crap containing just energy without other nutrients).
Total ban on HFCS would go too far, but limiting how much there can be in food could be a good idea... Or just explicitly exposing food industry to obesity lawsuits (compare to lawsuits against tobacco industry).
NO THEY SHOULDN'T!!!! If you live in the USA and feel this way get out or get shot!
These days US is (by traditional US thinking) a socialist country too, where other people end up paying for other peoples mistakes (such as getting ill by smoking, getting obese by cheap HFCS-filled foods). And if you pay for it, you should get to have a say about it...
HFCS should be made into bio-fuel (or whatever), using it in food should be banned.
Ubuntu pretty much only restarts for kernel updates, but if you install Ksplice, even those go away.
Of course, if you upgraded any of the more commonly used libraries, then just rebooting is much more reliable way of making sure the previous version of the library is not used by any daemon or other background process. Only if there's a very strong reason to not reboot, it makes sense to upgrade libraries or other core components without reboot (note: such an upgrade without rebooting may be cool, but cool doesn't mean sensible or wise).
(In case you didn't know, in Unix a file stays in existence as long as it's open, even if you "rm" all directory entries linked to that file, and only way to make sure a file is totally gone is to restart every process that just might use it.)
Implementing the "take away your ethernet cable" punishment seems more effective than kludging together some hybrid Active Directory OpenWRT API-based webpage that's may or may not be easy to circumvent and requires specialized knowledge and lots of time to administer and check up on.
I can see it now... Parent hits "shut down now" but then runs into the bedroom to see if it's working...
At which point, the power button is only inches away.... :-P
Slashdot. News for nerds. Stuff that matters.
You can keep your archaic "manually remove something" and "use the power button". Let us keep our geek stuff. Some people never fully grow up into serious non-nonsense drones, and we're proud of it too.
Eventually, earth will just be a retirement planet, where its nature and remaining resources are protected and safe from development, and can be treated like the rare and delicate jewel that it is.
How's this going to happen? I don't see us shipping billions of people off-world, so a drastic reduction in human birthrates on Earth would have to be achieved if you want to keep humans from filling every niche. Is that likely to happen?
Yes, in 1st world countries I think that it is very likely, since its already happening.
That's only temporary. Evolution will weed out those that currently "underachieve" in reproduction, whatever the cause. For example, if the reason is wanting to enjoy the comforts of modern society without interfering kids, then in a few generations, most people will have very strong maternal/paternal urges, because evolution is right now in the process of weeding out those that prefer life without kids...
The whole reason this is important, and that no-one seems to be talking about here, is that we need another planet. There's no way we can sustain our current population on this planet into the future, and the population is growing. People will start to die en mass and life will become tragic and harsh for a much higher ratio of people (currently, thats just life in the worst places to live). We need to figure out how to create contained ecosystems and how to use the resources of other planets (and moons and asteroids and dwarf planets and eventually exoplanets). Some work is going to get done in LEO for sure, but advancing the knowledge of how to actually exist on another planet will always be valuable and important progress. Eventually, earth will just be a retirement planet, where its nature and remaining resources are protected and safe from development, and can be treated like the rare and delicate jewel that it is.
Starting space colonization will do nothing to the poor masses here on earth, and especially it'll do nothing to population growth. Only thing it may do is save human species in case something bad happens to Earth. Ok, well, there's one related thing that may help, and that's figuring out a way to get very cheap energy from space (such as beaming down 100% reliable solar energy). And being able to do that might be a prerequisite for efficient space colonization (considering that solar arrays are probably much easier to manufacture in space than nuclear reactors). But more energy would just mean more population growth, so that'd just buy us some time to figure out a way to overcome the unstoppable force of evolution (which acts on anything that reproduces itself under limited resources) and limit our population to remain under the carrying capacity of the environment.
that have no WMDs, you could indeed save a lot of money.
Nah, invading countries that do have WMDs is much more expensive, so it's far cheaper to stick with those that don't have 'em...
Really? So NASA can't send an unmanned lander to the lunar surface?
First of all, NASA has done this several times. Second of all, NASA is great at seeking proposals to do things they won't do, which is all the story from the ESA side is at this point. And lastly, I want do to do things NASA can't, who doesn't? You know, like, get /. to stop posting shitty stories.
Read the summary (which probably has nothing to do with TFA, but that's beside the point). NASA can't, because NASA doesn't have the money to do it.
Of course ESA won't have the money either, but headline just says ESA wants to do it, so no problem there ;-)
That's the thing. I haven't seen a real example of DLL hell in years. Most people either statically compile everything or they just ship all the needed dlls to the installed folder.
Indeed. And due to this, these days this bloat has gotten so bad, that applications and duplicate DLLs may take whopping 10% of your hard disk space (or even more if you have an exceptionally small hard disk). And better not calculate how much this hard disk space costs, it's mind-boggling!
Does it matter? Chinese outnumber Americans 4 to 1...
Depends on how you count. If you count total body mass, the number might be the other way around...
I'd start by downloading the full SDK here.
Then fire up Qt Creator, go to welcome screen getting started tab, and dig into the rather interesting and well-documented examples. Hint: QGraphicsView combined with OpenGL is probably the way to the future, especially if you're not interested in building traditional boring GUI applications.
If you want a little more help getting started, google "qt tutorial" for more adding-features-step-by-step type stuff.
Actually, when you objectively observe world and study human history, you'll come to the logical conclusion that religion is by far the most enduring and effective way to maintain a culture.
This is where I start banging my head against the keyboard. You didn't just move the goalposts, you picked them up and started sprinting.
There was talk about "transporting" culture above. Wether you take "transporting" to mean transfering to future generations, or spreading to other areas and to other people, religion is very effective at that. And along with religion, other aspects of "civilization" get "transported".
Now I notice you talked about "transforming" and apparently mean internal change in culture, so I didn't read too carefully, my bad.
Though I don't know if religion works against that very much either. The cultural transformation of last century has come about because of technology, and I don't see religion having slowed it down much. People like to stick to what they know, be it religion or ideology or just some sort of personal principles, and that's what slows things down, as well as "external" factors (it's pretty clear that Africa has been held back because of the mess created by colonialism in the preceding centuries, for example).
And how do you transport that culture?
Transport? You mean transform?
If you really think that religion is the only way - or even a particularly effective way - of transforming a culture, then you're suffering from a paucity of both information and imagination.
Actually, when you objectively observe world and study human history, you'll come to the logical conclusion that religion is by far the most enduring and effective way to maintain a culture. Name one culture that has lasted for, say, just 500 years, which didn't have a strong religious identity, which wasn't a culture of religion.
You could even say that current/recent religions are those that were fittest in (cultural) evolutionary sense. And they were the fittest because they survived and spread. For example some might say that religion in medieval Europe held other kind of development back, and it's even true to a degree, but looking at what happened (European nations had worldwide empires a few generations later), it certainly held Europe back less than anything anywhere else in the World (as evidenced by the fact that nothing else from anywhere in the world successfully conquered Europe ).
Not quite true. You may lose "power assisted" braking and steering but the wheel will still steer the car and the brakes will still work, it will just take a little more effort. Those old enough will remember a time before power assisted steering and braking.
Though generally a power-assisted steering without power needs quite a bit more muscle than steering that was designed to be non-power-assisted. And same for braking, drum brakes are actually sort of "self-assisting" and non-power-assisted brakes generally were drums I think, while these days power-assisted disc brakes are more common, and braking effectively without power assist is much harder with disk brakes (no "self-assist"), especially if you at the same time are trying to steer without power assist...