A friend of mine yesterday was telling me that an older version of SCO he has has some excellent tools that he has never seen anyone else write. I dont have any details, but if anyone knows what tools these are write a GPL version and release (out of the US of course) just to piss SCO off. And do it quickly, before IBM destroys them.
You mean run my mouth line a fool because the internet makes you basicly anonymous? Id be delighted to:) Sorry it took so long to reply.
...Did you do some hard time?
I did 2 years 4 months in Oklahoma minimuns/community centers (work camps) Im not what you would consider a typical criminal. Its my only conviction (besides my hacking conviction when I was a young en back in the 80's) I got into a bad situation that only got worse. I went in, did my time stayed out of trouble and now 8 years later Im doing pretty well for myself. Later this year I talk to the parole board about a recommendation for clemency from the governor. Im a non-violent intelligent person that works hard for a living, and conducts myself in an ethical manner. I dont refer to myself as an ex-con because like the %85 rethat will turn within 3 years. My point is, Im one of you, not one of them. Let me give you an inside perspective on prison and reply. For the details you can mail me at spamalias543 at lansville dot dyndns dot org.
...no daily beatings
Ive seen it first hand from inside a prison.
...the worst problems that they have they bring upon themselves through violations of the rules
Im not sure, but I think your saying people put them selves there. Lets address this. As im sure youll agree, no system is perfect and nothing is without corruption. Corruption will flourish in environments that are ripe for it. Prison is a good place. If a cop was to stash some dope on me and arrest me, and I could provide evidence there would be hell for him to pay. If a corrections officer was to plant dope on a convicted child molester and he had evidence, no one (including me) would care. The entire judicial (essentially a political system) is corrupt to some extent, like all other larger political systems. Mandatory sentences giving exceedingly long sentences, zealous prosecutors wanting to up their career (you dont think integrity is what promites them do you? Its convictions) Public defenders want to get promoted to prosecuter, its the better job and you dont do that freeing rapists. D.A.'s up for re-election, lots of reasons for corruption in the legal system. Im not saying its totally corrupt, overall it works good but lets admit that its not perfect, and does have its flaws. There are lots of bad characters in prison, thats where we send the bad people. But not everyone in there is a bad person please always keep that in mind. Lots of factors put lots of people in prison for lots of reasons. A vast majority of the time it works, on occasion it does break.
...Never been caught doing anything that would warrant my having to stand trial
Caught, key word there. Ever thrown your buddy something as he was driving away in Oklahoma? Throwing an object at a moving motor vehicle, violent felony crime that carrys 1-10 years in a state penitentiary. That might sound ridiculous to you, but Ive seen lots of things under ridiculous circumstances like this. APC, "Actual Physical Control" it means your legally drunk and have physical control of a motor vehicle (inside a car and so are they keys) second offense after a prior dui/dwi/apc carrys 10 years mandatory prison time. A suprising number of people who sleep of a drunk in their car, rather than drive home are given 10 years for this. Yes Ive read the court documents. I could go on, my point is once again (read the previous rant, Ill try to get off this now:) )
...Many people are proponents of "rehabilitation."...because of lack of socio-economical...
Im a proponent of rehabilitation, for those that can be rehabilitated. Of the people that are released from prison, there is a very large percent that is guaranteed a return visit. There is small percent that that can be rehabilitated. Thats what rehabil
...What punishment seems fitting for this violation? What is the life of the victim worth? Seven years of living in a confined space? Maybe ten? Maybe if I kill someone I should go to a place where they feed me and send me to vocational school and then offer me job placement after I get out early for "good behavior?"
Yup, you have no experience with the judicial system. I have, and when I hear people make remarks like this I know they are extremely ignorant of the entire judicial system.
Historic? The only things in there that are verifiable/falsable have all been falsified. There is NO legitimate history in the bible. As far as all that stuff about murder, rape etc, have you not read the bible? Ive read it from front to back and it is by far the sickest most vile thing Ive ever read. I find it unbearable that children are allowed to read it. So, heres some versus for, hopefully youll reconsider your "loving merciful god".
"Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him. But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." - Numbers 31:17
This condones the rape of young children.
"While the people of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the sabbath day...And the Lord said to Moses, 'The man shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.' And all the congregation brought him outside the camp, and stoned him to death with stones, as the Lord commanded Moses." - Numbers 15:32
"Happy shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock!" - Psalms 137:9
"If a man rapes a girl who is not engaged and is caught in the act, he must pay a fine to the girl's father and marry her; he may never divorce her" - Deuteronomy 22:28-29
Rape victims are forced to marry their rapist?
"You may acquire male and female slaves from the pagan nations that are around you." - Leviticus 25:44
Slavery, yay?
They shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child (pregnant) shall be ripped up!" - Hosea 13:16
Sickening.
Their children shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes! There houses spoiled, and their wives raped...Dash the young men to pieces...have no pity on the fruit of the womb, the CHILDREN SHALL NOT BE SPARED!" (Isa 12:16-18)
And he went up from thence unto Beth-el; and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him: 'Go up, thou baldhead; go up, thou baldhead.' And he looked behind him and saw them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she-bears out of the wood, and tore forty and two children of them. (2 Kings 2:23-24)
A friend of mine yesterday was telling me that an older version of SCO he has has some excellent tools that he has never seen anyone else write. I dont have any details, but if anyone knows what tools these are write a GPL version and release (out of the US of course) just to piss SCO off. And do it quickly, before IBM destroys them.
...It must suck to live in a country where the seperation of Church and State isn't honored;)
I wouldnt say living in the U.S.A. sucks.
...enlighten me with your overflowing wisdom.
:) Sorry it took so long to reply.
...Did you do some hard time?
...no daily beatings
...the worst problems that they have they bring upon themselves through violations of the rules
...Never been caught doing anything that would warrant my having to stand trial
:) )
...Many people are proponents of "rehabilitation."...because of lack of socio-economical...
You mean run my mouth line a fool because the internet makes you basicly anonymous? Id be delighted to
I did 2 years 4 months in Oklahoma minimuns/community centers (work camps) Im not what you would consider a typical criminal. Its my only conviction (besides my hacking conviction when I was a young en back in the 80's) I got into a bad situation that only got worse. I went in, did my time stayed out of trouble and now 8 years later Im doing pretty well for myself. Later this year I talk to the parole board about a recommendation for clemency from the governor. Im a non-violent intelligent person that works hard for a living, and conducts myself in an ethical manner. I dont refer to myself as an ex-con because like the %85 rethat will turn within 3 years. My point is, Im one of you, not one of them. Let me give you an inside perspective on prison and reply. For the details you can mail me at spamalias543 at lansville dot dyndns dot org.
Ive seen it first hand from inside a prison.
Im not sure, but I think your saying people put them selves there. Lets address this. As im sure youll agree, no system is perfect and nothing is without corruption. Corruption will flourish in environments that are ripe for it. Prison is a good place. If a cop was to stash some dope on me and arrest me, and I could provide evidence there would be hell for him to pay. If a corrections officer was to plant dope on a convicted child molester and he had evidence, no one (including me) would care. The entire judicial (essentially a political system) is corrupt to some extent, like all other larger political systems. Mandatory sentences giving exceedingly long sentences, zealous prosecutors wanting to up their career (you dont think integrity is what promites them do you? Its convictions) Public defenders want to get promoted to prosecuter, its the better job and you dont do that freeing rapists. D.A.'s up for re-election, lots of reasons for corruption in the legal system. Im not saying its totally corrupt, overall it works good but lets admit that its not perfect, and does have its flaws. There are lots of bad characters in prison, thats where we send the bad people. But not everyone in there is a bad person please always keep that in mind. Lots of factors put lots of people in prison for lots of reasons. A vast majority of the time it works, on occasion it does break.
Caught, key word there. Ever thrown your buddy something as he was driving away in Oklahoma? Throwing an object at a moving motor vehicle, violent felony crime that carrys 1-10 years in a state penitentiary. That might sound ridiculous to you, but Ive seen lots of things under ridiculous circumstances like this. APC, "Actual Physical Control" it means your legally drunk and have physical control of a motor vehicle (inside a car and so are they keys) second offense after a prior dui/dwi/apc carrys 10 years mandatory prison time. A suprising number of people who sleep of a drunk in their car, rather than drive home are given 10 years for this. Yes Ive read the court documents. I could go on, my point is once again (read the previous rant, Ill try to get off this now
Im a proponent of rehabilitation, for those that can be rehabilitated. Of the people that are released from prison, there is a very large percent that is guaranteed a return visit. There is small percent that that can be rehabilitated. Thats what rehabil
...What punishment seems fitting for this violation? What is the life of the victim worth? Seven years of living in a confined space? Maybe ten? Maybe if I kill someone I should go to a place where they feed me and send me to vocational school and then offer me job placement after I get out early for "good behavior?"
Yup, you have no experience with the judicial system. I have, and when I hear people make remarks like this I know they are extremely ignorant of the entire judicial system.
Actually its VIVE LA GNU/REVOLUTION!!!
blah blah blah (lame filter is complaining about caps, so um, blah blah blah)
Actually it's afternoon in Europe right now... There's more than one timezone in the world, you know ;)
The republicans will take care of that soon enough.
Historic? The only things in there that are verifiable/falsable have all been falsified. There is NO legitimate history in the bible. As far as all that stuff about murder, rape etc, have you not read the bible? Ive read it from front to back and it is by far the sickest most vile thing Ive ever read. I find it unbearable that children are allowed to read it. So, heres some versus for, hopefully youll reconsider your "loving merciful god".
"Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him. But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." - Numbers 31:17 This condones the rape of young children.
"While the people of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the sabbath day...And the Lord said to Moses, 'The man shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.' And all the congregation brought him outside the camp, and stoned him to death with stones, as the Lord commanded Moses." - Numbers 15:32
"Happy shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock!" - Psalms 137:9
"If a man rapes a girl who is not engaged and is caught in the act, he must pay a fine to the girl's father and marry her; he may never divorce her" - Deuteronomy 22:28-29 Rape victims are forced to marry their rapist?
"You may acquire male and female slaves from the pagan nations that are around you." - Leviticus 25:44 Slavery, yay?
They shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child (pregnant) shall be ripped up!" - Hosea 13:16 Sickening.
Their children shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes! There houses spoiled, and their wives raped...Dash the young men to pieces...have no pity on the fruit of the womb, the CHILDREN SHALL NOT BE SPARED!" (Isa 12:16-18)
And he went up from thence unto Beth-el; and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him: 'Go up, thou baldhead; go up, thou baldhead.' And he looked behind him and saw them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she-bears out of the wood, and tore forty and two children of them. (2 Kings 2:23-24)
Or should I dig up more?
>However, the point of the Bible is training in righteousness...
HAHAHA thats the funniest thing Ive read in a long time. Unless you consider, murder, rape, child molesting, and slavery to be 'rightous'
faad2 is the audio codec, there are debs if your a debian person available.