"Wargames. I re watched it recently. It actually has some of the most realistic representations of hacking and hackers in any movie ever."
You've got to be kidding me. Isn't that the film that is the genesis of the all time bad film cliche phrase "We've got to hack into the mainframe and copy the database"? If not whenever I see that phrase I think of that film. At the risk of sounding "L33t" I think I can only remember one film I thought mimicked any kind of depiction of user/computer interaction with any realism between the 80s and 2000; I THINK that film was "True Lies", I thought the use of the Arabic version of Windows was pretty cool. Otherwise, a computer generated voice asking me if I want to play a game is pretty lame and not even close to reality. Come on.
That's what I'm talking about, I think the fact that a large portion of gawker's users used common passwords that are part of every cracker's dictionary says more about the users than the platform.
It looks to me like de Raadt received an email from this Perry saying that he had some kind of NDA with the FBI that was part of a project the FBI hired Perry to do to add a back door to the OBSD ipsec stack, and the tone *seems* to be "ha ha ha, I screwed you" a little bit, shown by his comment about OBSD's DARPA funding. de Raadt isn't confirming or denying, he's simply saying "Look, this asshole is making claims." Claims that should be easily refuted if the OBSD stack is as heavily audited as the group claims.
Yeah, your type desperately wants to paint corp America as being some kind of slave laobor deal. Funny how most seem to make a comfortable enough living. You'd think we were herded into cattle cars and paid slave wages. I think the above poster is on to something more accurate.
If Anon were a Fight Club as soon as Edward Norton gave the signal all combatants would go to neutral corners and start masturbating. I read the xscript of a really funny xchange between some/b/tards and a livejasmin.com girl thje other night though. There's always that.
Forget it, they live in it all day every day for 8 months out of the year. Describe what its like to live in constant freezing temperatures and you might get through to them and describe what its like to have total sun all the time and constant, sweaty, sticky, shitty heat at night. Without a break. Never being comfortable, never. Its like a constant, nagging, pain in the ass that never goes away.
"Epic lolz at the comments on that Facebook Integration link... SOOO many people think it's real."
Assuming the News Media is populated with real people (I suspect their all animated mannequins) they were fooled into believing Pedobear was an actual symbol used by a cabal of child molesters.I always considered that an epic 4chan win.
Actually, its kind of funny. The users on 4chan are quite an eclectic and interesting blend of anarchists once you get beyond the 14 y-o fanboys and old pederasts who troll the boards.
"Only a small percentage of the world is born in the US and the ability to do business in the US (ie. residency) is a huge factor in global success.
And by the way, what does this really say about the world? That American citizens have some kind of privilege the rest of the world doesn't? If true, how is that? Not because we are hard working and entrepreneurial? If you imagine that 350 million Americans are some dark cabal of controlling aliens denying everyone else a happy life that would seem to contradict the common (nonsensical) European notion that we're all a bunch of self absorbed idiots. Its got to be one or the other, not both.
"You don't consider that to be born in the US is as large a lucky happenstance as to be born into nobility in times past?"
Hardly, I was given NOTHING coming up, no money, no support, my schooling was not paid for, no scholarship, NOTHING. I now own a home, a business, and am doing well. If I had been born into some kind of nobility I wouldn't expect to have had to work as hard as I've had to to have what I currently have. Your notion seems to be that Americans are gifted with some kind of success right after the womb, and I can tell you from personal experience that the only gift I was given was the ability to do with my life as I chose, not some kind of lottery ticket. I'm sorry you were born in some idiotic kingdom were that doesn't appear to be possible for the common man.
In all the world and all the people I've met I've never met a larger collection of people whose view on success is at best a bi-polar nonsense than the middle class; the poor talk about getting money anyway they can, I get that. The rich just do what they do. To know thine own nature and all that. The middle class at times venerate success, and loath it. Rich people are either very hard working and intelligent, or loathsome criminals. One thing I know, everyone wants to be successful to some degree. I've stopped trying to understand that dichotomy.
I've found the only real common denominator of all the people in the world I've met (I've been fortunate in that I've visited many parts of the world) the successful ones in the US are by a larger degree successful due to their own hard work and people elsewhere are "successful" due to the circumstances of their birth. I'm not going to argue the point, I just know in my heart that it's by and large true.
"As a long term atheist, maybe a subtle religious analogy escapes people.
You can be subtle and think you are clever, I hope you are comforted by your own cleverness. Sometimes however you are so subtle and clever you're the only one who knows it. Blunt as a brick usually brings all doubt to a quick halt, as I have done here. Rather than mock me you might take a queue.
Please. If you believe in God, go forth and continue to be comforted in your delusions. I don't need to try hard to believe the things I do. But you can mis-characterize my thoughts all you want. I really don't spend much time thinking about things I've already figured out. You, however, I'm glad I was able to get you thinking.
I believe in knowledge. Belief in myth is only useful if its understood in that context. Mistaking myth for reality is both a personal blinder and lifesaver with a loose tether. Possibly comforting, ultimately useless.
And my response to that is if you are intent on appealing to mythological beings as models for human behavior analysis then you at least should have the honesty within your self to first realize that anything you can imagine you think you might understand about omnipotent behavior is more than likely very wrong; if such beings existed they would be so far out of your experience there's nothing you'd be able to say about them that would even approximate reality. Even if the Bible were some kind of cosmic "Be back later" note. In all likely hood the note would be written on some kind of formless interstellar plasma that would impart the wisdom of the universe to all who touched it. Not start an argument that most humans seem to feel compelled to solve with a knife.
So lets put the religious theories away, shall we?
I could be wrong, but I'd like to think that the discussion is simply one of what's possible with this hardware. I think if users are happy to run ChromeOS then they'll do just that. One the other hand, for every 10 happy netizens of user land there's one hardware hacker who will be curious to see what's possible with this crazy new hardware offering...
"But, Larry is an idiot. Periodic flashes of brilliance, followed by long periods of narcissistic retardation disorder."
Well.... I have a hard time equating people who have made their fortunes the way Ellison has with idiocy. On the other hand, he did build himself a samurai castle for a house...
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"Wargames. I re watched it recently. It actually has some of the most realistic representations of hacking and hackers in any movie ever."
You've got to be kidding me. Isn't that the film that is the genesis of the all time bad film cliche phrase "We've got to hack into the mainframe and copy the database"? If not whenever I see that phrase I think of that film. At the risk of sounding "L33t" I think I can only remember one film I thought mimicked any kind of depiction of user/computer interaction with any realism between the 80s and 2000; I THINK that film was "True Lies", I thought the use of the Arabic version of Windows was pretty cool. Otherwise, a computer generated voice asking me if I want to play a game is pretty lame and not even close to reality. Come on.
I don't know, there's probably more detail at openbsd.org.
That's what I'm talking about, I think the fact that a large portion of gawker's users used common passwords that are part of every cracker's dictionary says more about the users than the platform.
It looks to me like de Raadt received an email from this Perry saying that he had some kind of NDA with the FBI that was part of a project the FBI hired Perry to do to add a back door to the OBSD ipsec stack, and the tone *seems* to be "ha ha ha, I screwed you" a little bit, shown by his comment about OBSD's DARPA funding. de Raadt isn't confirming or denying, he's simply saying "Look, this asshole is making claims." Claims that should be easily refuted if the OBSD stack is as heavily audited as the group claims.
Indeed. I'm framin' dat sh*t.
"Because people are not given a choice..."
Yeah, your type desperately wants to paint corp America as being some kind of slave laobor deal. Funny how most seem to make a comfortable enough living. You'd think we were herded into cattle cars and paid slave wages. I think the above poster is on to something more accurate.
I don't know why this was modded down, I think Antoine Dodson's Bed Intruder is very apropos.
If Anon were a Fight Club as soon as Edward Norton gave the signal all combatants would go to neutral corners and start masturbating. I read the xscript of a really funny xchange between some /b/tards and a livejasmin.com girl thje other night though. There's always that.
"In soviet russia the government regulates the companies."
And look where they are now.
Just tired of tired sigs.
"...that's what your mother said, eh Trebek?"
Forget it, they live in it all day every day for 8 months out of the year. Describe what its like to live in constant freezing temperatures and you might get through to them and describe what its like to have total sun all the time and constant, sweaty, sticky, shitty heat at night. Without a break. Never being comfortable, never. Its like a constant, nagging, pain in the ass that never goes away.
...AND the 4channers infiltrate and start mayhem on /.
"Epic lolz at the comments on that Facebook Integration link... SOOO many people think it's real."
Assuming the News Media is populated with real people (I suspect their all animated mannequins) they were fooled into believing Pedobear was an actual symbol used by a cabal of child molesters.I always considered that an epic 4chan win.
Actually, its kind of funny. The users on 4chan are quite an eclectic and interesting blend of anarchists once you get beyond the 14 y-o fanboys and old pederasts who troll the boards.
"Only a small percentage of the world is born in the US and the ability to do business in the US (ie. residency) is a huge factor in global success.
And by the way, what does this really say about the world? That American citizens have some kind of privilege the rest of the world doesn't? If true, how is that? Not because we are hard working and entrepreneurial? If you imagine that 350 million Americans are some dark cabal of controlling aliens denying everyone else a happy life that would seem to contradict the common (nonsensical) European notion that we're all a bunch of self absorbed idiots. Its got to be one or the other, not both.
"You don't consider that to be born in the US is as large a lucky happenstance as to be born into nobility in times past?"
Hardly, I was given NOTHING coming up, no money, no support, my schooling was not paid for, no scholarship, NOTHING. I now own a home, a business, and am doing well. If I had been born into some kind of nobility I wouldn't expect to have had to work as hard as I've had to to have what I currently have. Your notion seems to be that Americans are gifted with some kind of success right after the womb, and I can tell you from personal experience that the only gift I was given was the ability to do with my life as I chose, not some kind of lottery ticket. I'm sorry you were born in some idiotic kingdom were that doesn't appear to be possible for the common man.
You completely missed the point of my reply; your subtle wit was a complete fail. Too subtle for you I guess.
Your sig is idiotic.
In all the world and all the people I've met I've never met a larger collection of people whose view on success is at best a bi-polar nonsense than the middle class; the poor talk about getting money anyway they can, I get that. The rich just do what they do. To know thine own nature and all that. The middle class at times venerate success, and loath it. Rich people are either very hard working and intelligent, or loathsome criminals. One thing I know, everyone wants to be successful to some degree. I've stopped trying to understand that dichotomy.
I've found the only real common denominator of all the people in the world I've met (I've been fortunate in that I've visited many parts of the world) the successful ones in the US are by a larger degree successful due to their own hard work and people elsewhere are "successful" due to the circumstances of their birth. I'm not going to argue the point, I just know in my heart that it's by and large true.
"As a long term atheist, maybe a subtle religious analogy escapes people.
You can be subtle and think you are clever, I hope you are comforted by your own cleverness. Sometimes however you are so subtle and clever you're the only one who knows it. Blunt as a brick usually brings all doubt to a quick halt, as I have done here. Rather than mock me you might take a queue.
Please. If you believe in God, go forth and continue to be comforted in your delusions. I don't need to try hard to believe the things I do. But you can mis-characterize my thoughts all you want. I really don't spend much time thinking about things I've already figured out. You, however, I'm glad I was able to get you thinking.
I believe in knowledge. Belief in myth is only useful if its understood in that context. Mistaking myth for reality is both a personal blinder and lifesaver with a loose tether. Possibly comforting, ultimately useless.
And my response to that is if you are intent on appealing to mythological beings as models for human behavior analysis then you at least should have the honesty within your self to first realize that anything you can imagine you think you might understand about omnipotent behavior is more than likely very wrong; if such beings existed they would be so far out of your experience there's nothing you'd be able to say about them that would even approximate reality. Even if the Bible were some kind of cosmic "Be back later" note. In all likely hood the note would be written on some kind of formless interstellar plasma that would impart the wisdom of the universe to all who touched it. Not start an argument that most humans seem to feel compelled to solve with a knife.
So lets put the religious theories away, shall we?
I could be wrong, but I'd like to think that the discussion is simply one of what's possible with this hardware. I think if users are happy to run ChromeOS then they'll do just that. One the other hand, for every 10 happy netizens of user land there's one hardware hacker who will be curious to see what's possible with this crazy new hardware offering...
"But, Larry is an idiot. Periodic flashes of brilliance, followed by long periods of narcissistic retardation disorder."
Well.... I have a hard time equating people who have made their fortunes the way Ellison has with idiocy. On the other hand, he did build himself a samurai castle for a house...