As someone who graduated college only a few years ago (2004) and as someone who has a career in the software industry and as someone who is responsible for hiring delevopers, let me offer you the following:
1) I don't believe in CS programs. I feel that they fail to prepare students for the real world. Engineering is one of the few educations which should provide students with pratical experience that prepares the student for 'the real world'. You have learned a lot of therory. In my experience good grades has no corrilation to good developers.
2) College, in general, is important for 'nerds, geeks, engineers, etc'. Sterotypically this group has poor social skills. This can hinder your professional development, as these skills are required in almost any business. Focusing on developing social skills, time management, and group collaboration will pay off.
3) Therory isn't a complete lost cause. Focus on learning how to think, regardless of course of study, college should train you on how use your brain.
4) Be passionet. College can be a great demotivator. I wouldn't be suprised if you loved computers a lot less today than the first day you stepped onto campus. Find time to utilize computers in a way that inspires you. Google Mircosoft's "Coding For Fun". Not only should you find something there that intrests you, it will help guide you into some self study of programming that is applicable to today's business world, which brings me to my next point.
5) Focus on increasing your marketable skills. The utopian academia [and dare I say slashdot?] breeds a lot of technical fringe support. While being a hotshot ruby developer might be cool in this circle, it's not as marketable as being a profficient VB.net/C# web developer. Polish your skills in using technology that is common place, you'll need it being entry level in the job market.
6) Experience is golden. Work for minimum wage, work for food rations if you have to! Finding internships in related industries will give you pressious contacts, and valible work experience to put on your resume.
GPS = Global Positioning System, just because the current system is something else doesn't make "underwater" not GPS. Currently many GPS recievers supplment their satalite singal with something simular to this idea: WAAS (which is just another satellite, but kinda the same idea).
Anyway, I can't wait for "Tom, Tom, bring me to Atlantis."
for everyone out there who has commented that ooooo it doesn't work on my non-admin account, ooo I lock down access to my boot.ini (listen if you really want my boot.ini, email me, I'll send it to you), oooo I run linux.
It's a proof of concept about a focus redirect exploit (bug? that's a misnomar). The example itself (displaying boot.ini) is not the exploit, the exploit is the hijacking of selective typed text in one textbox and applying it to another. The application of this exploit could be much different than displayed in this example.
Usually a clustered server solution is very comprible in cost to a fault tollerant solution. In general your clustered boxes are pretty cheap off the shelf deals, while fault tollerant machines are not. When a critical error occurs with a fault tollerant system, the cost to repair is much greater than in a clustered solution, and downtime can be exponetially higher.
Clustered solutions are designed to maintain uptime even when their is failure.. FT solutions are designed not to fail... I trust things that are designed to keep working when they break more than I trust things that are designed not to break.
When dicussing Fault Tollerant vs. Clustering systems it's extreemly important to dicuss the need for scalibility. Clustered systems are inherintly scalible, while fault tollerant are not (in general).
For my business needs I usually see clustered systems as a much greater solution than fault tollerance. When dealing with systems that require fault tollerance you mostly are concerned with keeping the data they store avalible (database servers, file systems, etc). When dealing with systems where high avalibility is required for data, 99% of the time you are dealing with systems that will need to be responcive to an increased scale.
DFS and HA in SQL 2005 or 10g are examples of where a clustered system really couldn't be replaced with fault tollerance.
In large scale deployments, beta is usually reserved for a very structured testing plan. Pre-Beta means that the software isn't ready for this type of testing plan, but it may be good for marketing to start pushing buzz words. Things like screen shots and non-functioning UI are often used as pre-beta examples... Vaporware should be reserved for theoretical programs in which no code is produced. Vaporware also has a stigma of "it will never be produced" around it; I don't think it applys here.
Thanks for the update on how you're doing. I am throughly impressed about how much money you are making. How'd you do that? Also I'm amazed that you went through 4 years of college as a CS major and that this is your first post to/..
What I find amazing is how little a CS degree gets you on it's own.
Do a little search on monster.com or the liking, pick any tech related job. Look at the requirements. None of them are fufilled by a CS degree.
The ammount of therory in CS is what is killing these programs. What is needed is job training. You can graduate from a school like WPI with a degree in CS without knowing how to write a VB app. It's pretty sickening.
While I sure did enjoy Big O notation, learning how to write perl scripts would have been 3 trillion times more valuible.
I'll be the first to agree that a solid education has it's roots in therory, a solid job in computers has it's roots in application.
Why are we falling behind the Indias, etc? Because a bachelors in CS gives you no solid ground to become a good canidate for the types of programmers that are in demand these days.
As a recent graduate (okay, I graduated over a year ago) and as someone who works at a software company, I have to say that if I could do it all over again I'd do anything but CS. Most universities offer MIS programs, etc, that will put you into the tech field without nessicarly being a programmer, etc. But, heck, if I had skipped the four years of college I'd probably be a junior manager at walmart by now.
With jobs going overseas, and the supply of programmers heavily outweighing the demand, I don't see any reason for anyone to be intrested in CS at all.
When I hear Gates talk about lack of tallent within the US, I really have to say "who cares". The bottom line is that less than 1% of CS majors are going to be of the caliber of programmer that Gates is talking about, but what about the rest of us 99%ers? We have the joy of fighting tooth and nail for a job, then we have the joy of not getting the dream salaries that were touted in the 90s, and then to top it off we get to fight off competition for overseas that can do our work at a third of the cost because of living expenses overseas.
Back in the day it use to be cool to be a programmer. Now when someone says that I have to feel a little bit sorry for me.
I've been using hotmail for years, way before MS ever owned hotmail. At the time I signed up for hotmail everyone was chilling with their @netcom or any simular isp branded e-mail. If you're anything like me you've gone through a couple ISPs over the last 10 years. You also are probably aware what a PITA it is to change e-mail addresses. That's why I've stuck with hotmail all theses years.
I have a g-mail account, it's pretty awesome and probably better then hotmail... but one feature that hotmail has over other web-based e-mails is easy integration with a fat-client e-mail system.
I've yet to see a web-based client that can handle my e-mail needs... Even MS's OWA isn't a replacement for outlook.
I know there will be a flurry of flames about using outlook, etc etc... but the bottom line is that nothing integrates better for my needs, my palm, my blackberry, my non-work hotmail, owa, etc.
My basic point is that there are at least some merrits to using hotmail.
Once you are up and running (this post isn't about setting up machines) a user is going to be most productive in the enviorment that they know the best. Once a user has a grasp of the task at hand, the less things they have to think about doing, the more focus they can be at the problem at hand.
The real question that should be asked is where do you feel the most at home? For many it will be linux, for many it will be Windows, for others it will be Mac. The question is flawed in that it doesn't prove anything about the OS other than what OS the respondants feel the most confortible with, this will be the OS that they have the most experience with.
In other words, the answer to this question, will in general, be the same as the question: Which OS do you use?
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Millions call in sick today to work. Turns out a 'flood' of sickness has struck working america. Might be time to call in master chief on this one.
I hear what you're saying about ATM networks... but I've gone to the bank plenty of times when the ATM has been not working... I live in the US and don't use Bank of America ATMs ever... not saying that I know for sure what OS was running the network, but I have a feeling that simular ATM network outages have occured on networks running software other than Windows... What I'd like to see is a comparison of those when a claim like that is made....
On a further note, your post is a little off subject for me, because we aren't talking about ATM networks, we are talking about ATM platforms. Where's the idea that running an ATM on MS OS will make it more likely to be hit by a worm?
The title of this post says that Windows for ATMs are "Susceptible to Windows Viruses" but as far as I can tell this is just speculation... Is there actually any proof out there that these machines would be any more (or less?) susceptible to viruses? I'm suprised this made it through, no substance and just a lot of name calling at MS.
Wouldn't it be nice if someone called each of these people to let them know their creditcards and private information have been comprimised on the internet. I'd do it but our phone system is down right now.
yeah, I totally believe that. There are a bunch of people out there like that, but that does not give the entire story. For each one of you that just rips mp3s off the net and never buy a CD how many out there discover new music, become more involved with music, buy more CDs, go to concerts, increase a band's image and hype (and marketing value), buy tee-shirts, etc etc... that is how you decide if filesharing hurts or benefits the music industry.
This product fairs well in the coolness department (huge pun intended), but how about pricing? I didn't see anything about how much this technology could possibly cost, and my bet is that it will well over quadupile the cost of current technolgies (big ass refidgerators)... So you gotta ask yourself, would I love a cold beer on my next week long trek through death vallie.... for $20? Okay I would.
"The MPAA, recognizing the damage the advent of digital file-sharing did to the music industry, has waged an aggressive campaign against movie piracy."
I still haven't seen a single piece of documentation that can dirrectly link a damage to the music industry as a result (even in part) by file-sharing.
Sorry you missed out on the whole BackOrafice thing, which had both of the functionalities of this worm. It was a fun time in the computer world... where were you?
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As someone who graduated college only a few years ago (2004) and as someone who has a career in the software industry and as someone who is responsible for hiring delevopers, let me offer you the following:
1) I don't believe in CS programs. I feel that they fail to prepare students for the real world. Engineering is one of the few educations which should provide students with pratical experience that prepares the student for 'the real world'. You have learned a lot of therory. In my experience good grades has no corrilation to good developers.
2) College, in general, is important for 'nerds, geeks, engineers, etc'. Sterotypically this group has poor social skills. This can hinder your professional development, as these skills are required in almost any business. Focusing on developing social skills, time management, and group collaboration will pay off.
3) Therory isn't a complete lost cause. Focus on learning how to think, regardless of course of study, college should train you on how use your brain.
4) Be passionet. College can be a great demotivator. I wouldn't be suprised if you loved computers a lot less today than the first day you stepped onto campus. Find time to utilize computers in a way that inspires you. Google Mircosoft's "Coding For Fun". Not only should you find something there that intrests you, it will help guide you into some self study of programming that is applicable to today's business world, which brings me to my next point.
5) Focus on increasing your marketable skills. The utopian academia [and dare I say slashdot?] breeds a lot of technical fringe support. While being a hotshot ruby developer might be cool in this circle, it's not as marketable as being a profficient VB.net/C# web developer. Polish your skills in using technology that is common place, you'll need it being entry level in the job market.
6) Experience is golden. Work for minimum wage, work for food rations if you have to! Finding internships in related industries will give you pressious contacts, and valible work experience to put on your resume.
GPS = Global Positioning System, just because the current system is something else doesn't make "underwater" not GPS. Currently many GPS recievers supplment their satalite singal with something simular to this idea: WAAS (which is just another satellite, but kinda the same idea).
Anyway, I can't wait for "Tom, Tom, bring me to Atlantis."
for everyone out there who has commented that ooooo it doesn't work on my non-admin account, ooo I lock down access to my boot.ini (listen if you really want my boot.ini, email me, I'll send it to you), oooo I run linux.
It's a proof of concept about a focus redirect exploit (bug? that's a misnomar). The example itself (displaying boot.ini) is not the exploit, the exploit is the hijacking of selective typed text in one textbox and applying it to another. The application of this exploit could be much different than displayed in this example.
and this is the basic premis of clustered servers in the contex of this discussion.
I also wanted to mention cost.
Usually a clustered server solution is very comprible in cost to a fault tollerant solution. In general your clustered boxes are pretty cheap off the shelf deals, while fault tollerant machines are not. When a critical error occurs with a fault tollerant system, the cost to repair is much greater than in a clustered solution, and downtime can be exponetially higher.
Clustered solutions are designed to maintain uptime even when their is failure.. FT solutions are designed not to fail... I trust things that are designed to keep working when they break more than I trust things that are designed not to break.
When dicussing Fault Tollerant vs. Clustering systems it's extreemly important to dicuss the need for scalibility. Clustered systems are inherintly scalible, while fault tollerant are not (in general).
For my business needs I usually see clustered systems as a much greater solution than fault tollerance. When dealing with systems that require fault tollerance you mostly are concerned with keeping the data they store avalible (database servers, file systems, etc). When dealing with systems where high avalibility is required for data, 99% of the time you are dealing with systems that will need to be responcive to an increased scale.
DFS and HA in SQL 2005 or 10g are examples of where a clustered system really couldn't be replaced with fault tollerance.
In large scale deployments, beta is usually reserved for a very structured testing plan. Pre-Beta means that the software isn't ready for this type of testing plan, but it may be good for marketing to start pushing buzz words. Things like screen shots and non-functioning UI are often used as pre-beta examples... Vaporware should be reserved for theoretical programs in which no code is produced. Vaporware also has a stigma of "it will never be produced" around it; I don't think it applys here.
I figured I was pretty well tuned in to the web, but I hadn't heard of about three of those things before?
Is it a poor list, or am I really just out of the loop?
only that's for the nintendo DS.
Migs789,
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Thanks for the update on how you're doing. I am throughly impressed about how much money you are making. How'd you do that? Also I'm amazed that you went through 4 years of college as a CS major and that this is your first post to
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What I find amazing is how little a CS degree gets you on it's own.
Do a little search on monster.com or the liking, pick any tech related job. Look at the requirements. None of them are fufilled by a CS degree.
The ammount of therory in CS is what is killing these programs. What is needed is job training. You can graduate from a school like WPI with a degree in CS without knowing how to write a VB app. It's pretty sickening.
While I sure did enjoy Big O notation, learning how to write perl scripts would have been 3 trillion times more valuible.
I'll be the first to agree that a solid education has it's roots in therory, a solid job in computers has it's roots in application.
Why are we falling behind the Indias, etc? Because a bachelors in CS gives you no solid ground to become a good canidate for the types of programmers that are in demand these days.
As a recent graduate (okay, I graduated over a year ago) and as someone who works at a software company, I have to say that if I could do it all over again I'd do anything but CS. Most universities offer MIS programs, etc, that will put you into the tech field without nessicarly being a programmer, etc. But, heck, if I had skipped the four years of college I'd probably be a junior manager at walmart by now.
With jobs going overseas, and the supply of programmers heavily outweighing the demand, I don't see any reason for anyone to be intrested in CS at all.
When I hear Gates talk about lack of tallent within the US, I really have to say "who cares". The bottom line is that less than 1% of CS majors are going to be of the caliber of programmer that Gates is talking about, but what about the rest of us 99%ers? We have the joy of fighting tooth and nail for a job, then we have the joy of not getting the dream salaries that were touted in the 90s, and then to top it off we get to fight off competition for overseas that can do our work at a third of the cost because of living expenses overseas.
Back in the day it use to be cool to be a programmer. Now when someone says that I have to feel a little bit sorry for me.
$100,000 in parts alone... the sugery, research, and development goes into the millions.
I've been using hotmail for years, way before MS ever owned hotmail. At the time I signed up for hotmail everyone was chilling with their @netcom or any simular isp branded e-mail. If you're anything like me you've gone through a couple ISPs over the last 10 years. You also are probably aware what a PITA it is to change e-mail addresses. That's why I've stuck with hotmail all theses years.
I have a g-mail account, it's pretty awesome and probably better then hotmail... but one feature that hotmail has over other web-based e-mails is easy integration with a fat-client e-mail system.
I've yet to see a web-based client that can handle my e-mail needs... Even MS's OWA isn't a replacement for outlook.
I know there will be a flurry of flames about using outlook, etc etc... but the bottom line is that nothing integrates better for my needs, my palm, my blackberry, my non-work hotmail, owa, etc.
My basic point is that there are at least some merrits to using hotmail.
Once you are up and running (this post isn't about setting up machines) a user is going to be most productive in the enviorment that they know the best. Once a user has a grasp of the task at hand, the less things they have to think about doing, the more focus they can be at the problem at hand.
The real question that should be asked is where do you feel the most at home? For many it will be linux, for many it will be Windows, for others it will be Mac. The question is flawed in that it doesn't prove anything about the OS other than what OS the respondants feel the most confortible with, this will be the OS that they have the most experience with.
In other words, the answer to this question, will in general, be the same as the question: Which OS do you use?
Millions call in sick today to work. Turns out a 'flood' of sickness has struck working america. Might be time to call in master chief on this one.
I hear what you're saying about ATM networks... but I've gone to the bank plenty of times when the ATM has been not working... I live in the US and don't use Bank of America ATMs ever... not saying that I know for sure what OS was running the network, but I have a feeling that simular ATM network outages have occured on networks running software other than Windows... What I'd like to see is a comparison of those when a claim like that is made....
On a further note, your post is a little off subject for me, because we aren't talking about ATM networks, we are talking about ATM platforms. Where's the idea that running an ATM on MS OS will make it more likely to be hit by a worm?
doh, always forget that those greater than and less than signs don't do it on slashdot... it's was a less than 100,000.
look at my user id, 100,000.. but I'd say this is one of the worse because there is actually no article attached.
The title of this post says that Windows for ATMs are "Susceptible to Windows Viruses" but as far as I can tell this is just speculation... Is there actually any proof out there that these machines would be any more (or less?) susceptible to viruses? I'm suprised this made it through, no substance and just a lot of name calling at MS.
Wouldn't it be nice if someone called each of these people to let them know their creditcards and private information have been comprimised on the internet. I'd do it but our phone system is down right now.
yeah, I totally believe that. There are a bunch of people out there like that, but that does not give the entire story. For each one of you that just rips mp3s off the net and never buy a CD how many out there discover new music, become more involved with music, buy more CDs, go to concerts, increase a band's image and hype (and marketing value), buy tee-shirts, etc etc... that is how you decide if filesharing hurts or benefits the music industry.
This product fairs well in the coolness department (huge pun intended), but how about pricing? I didn't see anything about how much this technology could possibly cost, and my bet is that it will well over quadupile the cost of current technolgies (big ass refidgerators)... So you gotta ask yourself, would I love a cold beer on my next week long trek through death vallie.... for $20? Okay I would.
"The MPAA, recognizing the damage the advent of digital file-sharing did to the music industry, has waged an aggressive campaign against movie piracy."
I still haven't seen a single piece of documentation that can dirrectly link a damage to the music industry as a result (even in part) by file-sharing.
Sorry you missed out on the whole BackOrafice thing, which had both of the functionalities of this worm. It was a fun time in the computer world... where were you?