I think you are right that there are different numbers on different sites. I guess the problem is with the definition of area, depending on if you take into account lakes, ice sheets, the costal waters etc.
Universal health care? Check.
Lax marijuana laws? Check.
Can marry another man if for some reason I was feeling saucey? Check.
and now freedom to share music?
The problem with Americans saying that they are the freest country is that they
tend to believe it even if it isnt necessarily so. Self denial and delusion
prevents the problem being resolved; ask alcoholics anonymous and why the first
step is admitting there is a problem;).
1 : an act of robbery on the high seas; also : an act resembling such robbery
Those who use the term piracy or theft when talking about copyright infrindgement are usually zealots setting linguistic traps. I don't call cats dogs, I don't call keyboards pencils, and I don't call copyright infrindgement theft, to do is disingenious.
End users who purchase this license are granted the right to use the SCO IP in Linux in binary format only. The license is available immediately and can be obtained by contacting your SCO sales representative or by calling SCO at 1-800-726-8649.
1-800-726-8649
Ask SCO for information about their products, and to send you a copy of their Linux license before you consider paying for it;).
It doesn't matter if plugins are good are not in *your* opinion, what matters is that the software patent system allows for overly broad patents that have the ability to cripple the functioning of how people use the internet. Because of this, software patents must be fought at every turn.
"1. What a member of a community does is the responsibility of that individual. The actions of one person cannot be used to stigmatize a group (or any others at all). . ..
"2. There is considerable evidence that there was in fact no DOS of SCO's machines. If this proves to be the case, SCO will have to be held accountable for it's allegations.
"3. SGI is on record that it's legal team went through the xfs sources to approve the release. The code in question is clean according to this audit... if it is not then that is a mistake. In any case, it was corrected, and the (appropriate, responsible) proceedures followed to insure that intellectual property of others was protected is a matter of public record. Stated another way, it can be clearly shown that the accepted industry process (code audit) was carried out and that it was carred out to respect the rights and property of others.
"4. Making allegations of not respecting intellectual property comes (at least) close to defamation. In light of 3, and knowing that SCO was a party (as all enterprise linux vendors were) to the very public work SGI did to contribute xfs to Linux, one has to hold SCO accountable for knowingly making such false and damaging statements.
"5. If there is code (for instance) in the SMP support which is SCO's property, that code is limited to the code itself. There is no legal theory that can be presented that will stand scrutiny that will allow you to claim 1m lines of code derived from it. Put another way, _calling_ a function cannot make the work that calls it a derived work in the general case or all programs would be a derived work of the platform they run on.
"6. Open Source and Free Software are not business models. They [are a] process and philosophy which is used to generate software for the benefit of everyone. Stated another way, they are designed to make the benefit of the development effort accrue to the public.
"7. There is no such thing as 'Free Open Source' The terms 'Free Software' and 'Open Source' are valid terms, however they are not interchangeable.
"8. SCO spent many years as a member of the Open Source community. It knows that the community hold property and the law in high regard and respects those laws. SCO also knows that the GPL relies on copyright. SCO knows this because lawers for another Canopy company examined the foundations of the GPL in depth and also offered GPL indemnity. This is known to Blake Stowell, who was involved in that effort.
"9. If the Open Source movement is based on anti-establisment principals, SCO must also be based on them because it was one of the first companies to be an 'Open Source' company. It contributed funding and engineering to the development of, and is partly responsible for, the state of the Open Source movement today.
"What SCO is doing is illegal. In the case of this letter, you have come very close to defaming myself and other Linux developers. Seek legal advice before posting such things, we will hold you accountable."
Yes you seem to be right. The courts have realized that all this B.S. is 'high profile' and the court date has been moved way back to this year instead of 2005.
All this B.S. will ending very soon. And in the end, it was just free publicity for Linux.
If labour is being replaced by capital (robots / robotic machines etc.), and that leads to increases in unemployment, then more advanced countries (using more machines / capital) should show a trend upwards in unemployment compared to less developed countries. This has not been observed, according to studies done by *economists*.
A second point, his pie charts showing income (in)equality are better done using a Lorenz curve. If your going to talk economics at least avail yourself of the tools and techniques that are available.
KazaaLite is a hack of Kazaa, and thus blatant piracy.
Not necessarily so. The people of Kazaa Lite could have reversed engineered
Kazaa as to the protocols, and made a program that logs onto their network.
Nothing illegal about that at all.
If people say incorrect stuff like this, forgetting that reverse engineering is
LEGAL, it simply makes it easier for that right to be eroded or taken
away.
I don't think its too late either to protest the DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act).
Perhaps a date should be setup an offical day of protest.
As well, you can help protest in Europe too, don't just count on websites like Slashdot to protest, mail 5 friends, post to the newsgroups, take down your own site. In fact what you can do is create/borrow a protest html template ready to be put up just for such an occasion:).
It was genius to close down sites in protest, esp. regarding software patents in Europe.
The icing on the cake would be if Slashdot would close down, even for a few hours, to protest the up and coming law in Europe.
We live in a globalized economy now, and what goes on in Europe affects what happens in North America. Perhaps if Europe would have helped protest against American software patents, the law would not have passed here. It is time to correct that and help them from repeating the same mistake.
That article is like those tv news ads, like the one from Simpsons where Kent Brockman said: "A leading brand of cola causes cancer, but we won't tell you which one till you watch the show!"
Well, where is the list of CD-R's that will go bad? I couldnt find it on the link, anyone have a quick list?
"If you cannot distribute so as to satisfy simultaneously your obligations under this License and any other pertinent obligations, then as a consequence you may not distribute the Library at all." -Section 11 of GPL
What this means is SCO is forgoing its rights to distribute Linux under the GPL because of breaking many sections the contract (i.e. charging for copies).
Linux is still copyrighted even though it is GPL, the contributors to Linux could choose to sue SCO for using Linux beyond the agreed upon terms.
Slashdot Mirror
I think you are right that there are different numbers on different sites. I guess the problem is with the definition of area, depending on if you take into account lakes, ice sheets, the costal waters etc.
"Second to Russia."
Wrong.
Rubarb Crumble in this thread provides the link in case you are ignorant of country's area:
http://nationmaster.com/graph-T/geo_are_lan
As i said...Canada is 3rd largest country in terms of area not 2nd.
1) Russia
2) China
3) Canada
Universal health care? Check.
9 00-1999.html ).
;).
Lax marijuana laws? Check.
Can marry another man if for some reason I was feeling saucey? Check.
and now freedom to share music?
Canada has always been very free, for example Canada (BC, Quebec) did away with prohibition years (1921 vs. 1933), with the rest of the provinces following soon after, before America ( http://www.sleeman.com/en/heritage/crafthistory-1
The problem with Americans saying that they are the freest country is that they tend to believe it even if it isnt necessarily so. Self denial and delusion prevents the problem being resolved; ask alcoholics anonymous and why the first step is admitting there is a problem
"sure it does canada is just another big US state like Wisconsin or Minnesota...."
Canada is bigger in area then the USA, and the 3rd largest country in the world...so read it and weep.
"Piracy is the theft of information."
Actually piracy is:
1 : an act of robbery on the high seas; also : an act resembling such robbery
Those who use the term piracy or theft when talking about copyright infrindgement are usually zealots setting linguistic traps. I don't call cats dogs, I don't call keyboards pencils, and I don't call copyright infrindgement theft, to do is disingenious.
"Cool idea.... how much *does* 100 tonnes of bullsh*t cost, anyway?"
Its expensive for most people, but Darl McBride gets a daily supply out of his mouth for free.
http://www.sco.com/scosource/linuxlicense.html
;).
End users who purchase this license are granted the right to use the SCO IP in Linux in binary format only. The license is available immediately and can be obtained by contacting your SCO sales representative or by calling SCO at 1-800-726-8649.
1-800-726-8649
Ask SCO for information about their products, and to send you a copy of their Linux license before you consider paying for it
It doesn't matter if plugins are good are not in *your* opinion, what matters is that the software patent system allows for overly broad patents that have the ability to cripple the functioning of how people use the internet. Because of this, software patents must be fought at every turn.
Tell me a time and place, and I will gather there with the rest of the protestors and buy a CD then return it.
Its a very good idea, but we need the follow though now.
There are many eBook libraries available on Freenet, and also eDonkey.
This is only a small set back.
Letter of response posted from Groklaw:
.
http://radio.weblogs.com/0120124/
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"D. Jeff Dionne commented on 8 September 2003:
"1. What a member of a community does is the responsibility of that individual. The actions of one person cannot be used to stigmatize a group (or any others at all). . .
"2. There is considerable evidence that there was in fact no DOS of SCO's machines. If this proves to be the case, SCO will have to be held accountable for it's allegations.
"3. SGI is on record that it's legal team went through the xfs sources to approve the release. The code in question is clean according to this audit... if it is not then that is a mistake. In any case, it was corrected, and the (appropriate, responsible) proceedures followed to insure that intellectual property of others was protected is a matter of public record. Stated another way, it can be clearly shown that the accepted industry process (code audit) was carried out and that it was carred out to respect the rights and property of others.
"4. Making allegations of not respecting intellectual property comes (at least) close to defamation. In light of 3, and knowing that SCO was a party (as all enterprise linux vendors were) to the very public work SGI did to contribute xfs to Linux, one has to hold SCO accountable for knowingly making such false and damaging statements.
"5. If there is code (for instance) in the SMP support which is SCO's property, that code is limited to the code itself. There is no legal theory that can be presented that will stand scrutiny that will allow you to claim 1m lines of code derived from it. Put another way, _calling_ a function cannot make the work that calls it a derived work in the general case or all programs would be a derived work of the platform they run on.
"6. Open Source and Free Software are not business models. They [are a] process and philosophy which is used to generate software for the benefit of everyone. Stated another way, they are designed to make the benefit of the development effort accrue to the public.
"7. There is no such thing as 'Free Open Source' The terms 'Free Software' and 'Open Source' are valid terms, however they are not interchangeable.
"8. SCO spent many years as a member of the Open Source community. It knows that the community hold property and the law in high regard and respects those laws. SCO also knows that the GPL relies on copyright. SCO knows this because lawers for another Canopy company examined the foundations of the GPL in depth and also offered GPL indemnity. This is known to Blake Stowell, who was involved in that effort.
"9. If the Open Source movement is based on anti-establisment principals, SCO must also be based on them because it was one of the first companies to be an 'Open Source' company. It contributed funding and engineering to the development of, and is partly responsible for, the state of the Open Source movement today.
"What SCO is doing is illegal. In the case of this letter, you have come very close to defaming myself and other Linux developers. Seek legal advice before posting such things, we will hold you accountable."
Yes you seem to be right. The courts have realized that all this B.S. is 'high profile' and the court date has been moved way back to this year instead of 2005.
All this B.S. will ending very soon. And in the end, it was just free publicity for Linux.
This guy is talking shit.
If labour is being replaced by capital (robots / robotic machines etc.), and that leads to increases in unemployment, then more advanced countries (using more machines / capital) should show a trend upwards in unemployment compared to less developed countries. This has not been observed, according to studies done by *economists*.
A second point, his pie charts showing income (in)equality are better done using a Lorenz curve. If your going to talk economics at least avail yourself of the tools and techniques that are available.
KazaaLite is a hack of Kazaa, and thus blatant piracy.
Not necessarily so. The people of Kazaa Lite could have reversed engineered Kazaa as to the protocols, and made a program that logs onto their network. Nothing illegal about that at all.
If people say incorrect stuff like this, forgetting that reverse engineering is LEGAL, it simply makes it easier for that right to be eroded or taken away.
I don't think its too late either to protest the DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act).
:).
Perhaps a date should be setup an offical day of protest.
As well, you can help protest in Europe too, don't just count on websites like Slashdot to protest, mail 5 friends, post to the newsgroups, take down your own site. In fact what you can do is create/borrow a protest html template ready to be put up just for such an occasion
It was genius to close down sites in protest, esp. regarding software patents in Europe.
The icing on the cake would be if Slashdot would close down, even for a few hours, to protest the up and coming law in Europe.
We live in a globalized economy now, and what goes on in Europe affects what happens in North America. Perhaps if Europe would have helped protest against American software patents, the law would not have passed here. It is time to correct that and help them from repeating the same mistake.
Close Slashdot in protest of software patents!
Simply post DECSS info / program on Freenet. If the courts will not uphold the first amendment then p2p anonymous technology will.
Freenet P2P is GPL open source and you can download it at:
http://freenet.sourceforge.net/
From Parent:
http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq07.html#S7-4-1
Mod the parent up (AHumbleOpinino), it has good info!
I had the exact same complaint about that article being a teaser.
;).
Can someone get a hold of the full article and give us a quick list of CD's to avoid? Which are the best?
Post the article to freenet if you are scared of getting busted for copyright infrindgement
That article is like those tv news ads, like the one from Simpsons where Kent Brockman said: "A leading brand of cola causes cancer, but we won't tell you which one till you watch the show!"
Well, where is the list of CD-R's that will go bad? I couldnt find it on the link, anyone have a quick list?
The best part about boycotting the MPAA for going against p2p is that you can just watch the movies for free off these networks :).
Easiest boycott I ever participated in!
"Two words: Slave Labor. Robots don't threaten to walk out if working conditions are dangerous."
People anthropomorphize way too much.
Is your toaster doing slave labour? These things are not sentient, and I doubt will be for a very long while, if ever.
"Perhaps instead, the US government should stop cutting funds allocated to education and "liberating" oil-producing countires."
Maybe Canada should run the program then, its the only G7 country whose federal government isn't running a deficit.
Very good comment from parent:
"they don't, the copyright holders have the right to pull the unlimited copy clause and revert to normal copyright policies."
Why doesn't the contributors to Linux launch a class action lawsuit to sue SCO for violating the copyright?
This way it is A) A counter attack and B) If they win they could rack up major $$$ to help fund Linux even more.
You should read the GPL:
"If you cannot distribute so as to satisfy simultaneously your obligations under this License and any other pertinent obligations, then as a consequence you may not distribute the Library at all." -Section 11 of GPL
What this means is SCO is forgoing its rights to distribute Linux under the GPL because of breaking many sections the contract (i.e. charging for copies).
Linux is still copyrighted even though it is GPL, the contributors to Linux could choose to sue SCO for using Linux beyond the agreed upon terms.