" Nintendo still makes money off of Super Mario 3, just like Disney still makes money off of Fantasia."
And they will be able to do so for the next 70 years, +20 years each time Disney's Mickey Mouse copyrights are about to expire.
My opinion? They've made their money - time for me to play. I'd need a serious arguement as to how it is *immoral* for me to ignore the artifical monopoly barrier (called copyright) with respect to ROMs.
Interesting...Copyright? Media Databases
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The Music Man
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What is the copyright on all of their material? Databases (with facts, figures, lists) are generally not copyrightable but it would be nice if they had the database available to everyone:).
I was also thinking of making a smiliar database for all media files, with MD5 / SHA hashes so it would automatically hash your files and sort them as well as provide metainformation.
Why not have a Wiki where people can submit prior art, discuss prior art, submit ideas to serve as prior art so they do not have to get a patent to protect their ideas?
I dont mind Wikipedia but I've been reading criticisms of the GFDL, and added some to the GFDL article right on Wikipedia, but hopefully Wikipriorart will be GFDL/Creative Commons type license.
You are wrong, it is an apt analogy. Both P2P and the music industry are 'middle men' / wholesalers whose job is to pair up music creators / artists and music consumers.
If the music companies cannot cope with these new middle men then that is unfortueant, for them. Whether it is unfortuant for artists remains to be seen:).
Why doesn't Novell donate WP to the LGPL so it can be put into OpenOffice? I am sure there must be some part ( the non buggy parts;) ) that could be useful.
If a project is going to go bankrupt might as well replease it as a GPL, you've really have little to lose, which is why I was diapointed that 321 studios didn't release their copying software before shutting down.
According to the EFF's, article
here, on how to
build a PVR, there are no cards
to get High Definition Cable or Satellite. Time is running out to get
these features into a card before next summer;).
Anyone know if they've made a card for HDTV cable or satellite?
"Given that BT requires a link to a.torrent, how hard
is it for companies to send a C&D to the ISP/owner of any site hosting illegal.torrent links? "
A few people are working on an anonymous BT tracker tool system for I2P.*ONLY* the BT tracker will be anonymous in this subtool that is being
worked on
as seen here on an update from 2 days ago. This would allow for
publisher anonymity and should be fast since the tracker only coordinates the
peers, with the peers doing the heavy lifting.
Of course having full anonymity (for the peers as well) would be useful , and
maybe possible, but as your post suggsted - BT is vunerable at the
tracker/publisher source. This is a solution to that vunerability, and in
any event I2P is fully anonymous itself, if you want peer anonymity for a file:).
This BT tool is not ready yet for I2P, but I2P itself is making remarkable progress
so I would not be surprised if it is ready within less than a few months.
For more information you can also find
the #I2P channel, with the #Freenet channel, on irc.freenode.net , I2P's chat
network and IIP (I2P and the Metro IIP are linked).
I wish i could figure out how to publish a site though:). I bugged them to put in the GUI and the current GUI is extremely good. I think they're planning to continue their commitment to usability by working on 'MyI2P' which will be a easy to use GUI that will allow someone to put up their sites easily.
The BitTorrent system on I2P will only be publisher anonymous though, which is still good/necessary as the BT system seems to be particularly vunerable via the trackers. (Trackers are open to being attacked, DDOSed, threatened etc.). As well there should be very little speed loss in I2P-BT as the anonymous tracker just coordinates, the heavy lifting is done by the peers.
A good, and working, anonymous P2P alternative to Freent is
I2P. The creator of I2P has
been around for a while and cross talks with Freenet developers on occasion as
both the Freenet and I2P community channels are on the anonymous irc network IIP, and irc.freenode.net.
A lot of I2P is put into the public domain, with parts of it being GPL.
Try www.i2p.net for more information.
"Disney is surely benefitting from the change, but so are the hard-working individuals who hold the majority of copyrights."
And then there are the losers, a.k.a. the citizens whose culture is up for sale and will be for the forseeable future.
I am sure microsoft and other companies will also benefit greatly when DRM makes it so every word you read must be paid for, and libraries are closed down as copyright infridgement havens. Who is the loser though, the losers are the information starved citizens in society kept eternally ignorant.
I still haven't heard *your* arguement as to why I should respect the artifical barrier known as copyright, why I should respect the RIAA et al who have been convicted of price fixing's, and why I should bother to support idea monopolists' efforts to keep the masses ignorant.
In the end its all moot, the technology to make copies are here and here to stay. Unless we go back to the old Soviet Union style rules where photocopiers were under armed guard, information will flow. Flow dispite the lawsuits, more laws or police crackdowns.
"Slashdot crowd who think that society would be better off if artists and writers knew their place -- give away your stuff for free"
It isn't about their place in society. I would mostly be content with these writiers and artists not turning so called 'society' into a police state so they could squeeze that extra last dollar out of someone who likely was not going to, or able to afford, that song / book etc.
"If somebody violates your copyright, don't fight back too hard"
Copyright is artifical, you do know this? People speak as if it comes from on high, but it is a law and one that can be changed or even repealed.
"If you have the same aspirations of being a millionaire..."...then I suggest you choose another profession other than author since the current state of technology, that allows unlimited copying, means the current structure of making gobs of money off keeping the masses ignorant and information deprived are over.
"A farmer gets to leave a legacy for his children. You don't."
I thought children were peoples' legacy;), anyhow I see no reason why these content makers dont have a legacy. Leaving the world one's ideas that are shared and distributed freely is more of a legacy than having your life's work being sealed away by your children, dispensed out on *their* whim for *their* profit.
We need a WikiPriorArt like
Wikipedia. So when you ask that you know where to go to check up. And if you
do have prior art, you'd go there also and input the prior art.
Also it could be used to publish ideas so they act as prior art against future
patent ideas.
There is already an
example #2 of how a tab format might auto generate the quotations, and then
people can fill in the sources. Click edit to see the tab structure
currently based on comment tabs.
Tim Starling already knows about this, we'd just need a couple lines of code
added to Wikimedia to make some custom tabs.
Wikipedia is currently working to reference all the facts on it. There is a
project set up to do it also here
Fact and Reference Check [wikipedia.org]. Here is a quote:
Not only can we make Wikipedia a more factual, a more reputable, source
of information but perhaps the *most*. Imagine an article in which each
*fact* is referenced with many academic text books, journals and websites!
Wikipedia has the potential to be the *most* crossreferenced body of
knowledge ever created, but to get there it needs help.
There isn't any reason why every fact couldn't be referenced making Wikipedia
one of the most authoritative sources of information ever created.
There is still discussion on how best to do this so feel free to join up.
Also feel free to encourage the people who write the Wikimedia program too add
in this tab feature (don't encourage too hard though, they are volunteers:o) )
" Won't many of the features that make Solaris great be ported to Linux before you can say "Holy GPL, Batman!""
It works the other way too, now that Solaris is going open source, and if its GPL say, then Solaris can port things from Linux and the rest. I suspect Sun thinks it will get a lot of developers to this for free for them;).
The problem is that Sun is late to the party, yet again, and is playing catch up. I think they waited too long but what choice do they have...
This reminds me of a story that Slashdot posted about someone having a new perspective on time which turned out to be a hoax. I bet if you find the story you can get some karma:o).
Wikipedia is currently working to reference all the facts on it. There
is a project set up to do it also here
Fact and Reference Check. Here is a quote:
Not only can we make Wikipedia a more factual, a more reputable, source of
information but perhaps the *most*. Imagine an article in which each *fact* is
referenced with many academic text books, journals and websites! Wikipedia has
the potential to be the *most* crossreferenced body of knowledge ever created,
but to get there it needs help.
There isn't any reason why every fact couldn't be referenced making Wikipedia
one of the most authoritative sources of information ever created.
"When you go to your department store and you buy 10 Cognac glasses and two weeks later you break two of them, the store doesn't give you two backup copies"
Since CDs can stop working with a small scratch, unlike Cognac glasses, and the studios prevent back ups then they are the ones to replace it. Give us the ability to back up our software, Jack, and we won't need to bother you about replacements.
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Your link didn't seem to work, but I am interested in getting together to make an MP3 database if you want. Email me at synfreenet@yahoo.ca .
I don't know MySQL though that well, I've been using Excel.
" Nintendo still makes money off of Super Mario 3, just like Disney still makes money off of Fantasia."
And they will be able to do so for the next 70 years, +20 years each time Disney's Mickey Mouse copyrights are about to expire.
My opinion? They've made their money - time for me to play. I'd need a serious arguement as to how it is *immoral* for me to ignore the artifical monopoly barrier (called copyright) with respect to ROMs.
What is the copyright on all of their material? Databases (with facts, figures, lists) are generally not copyrightable but it would be nice if they had the database available to everyone :).
I was also thinking of making a smiliar database for all media files, with MD5 / SHA hashes so it would automatically hash your files and sort them as well as provide metainformation.
"doing exhaustive prior art searches"
Why not have a Wiki where people can submit prior art, discuss prior art, submit ideas to serve as prior art so they do not have to get a patent to protect their ideas?
I dont mind Wikipedia but I've been reading criticisms of the GFDL, and added some to the GFDL article right on Wikipedia, but hopefully Wikipriorart will be GFDL/Creative Commons type license.
"If their "competition" is the music industry,"
:).
You are wrong, it is an apt analogy. Both P2P and the music industry are 'middle men' / wholesalers whose job is to pair up music creators / artists and music consumers.
If the music companies cannot cope with these new middle men then that is unfortueant, for them. Whether it is unfortuant for artists remains to be seen
Why doesn't Novell donate WP to the LGPL so it can be put into OpenOffice? I am sure there must be some part ( the non buggy parts ;) ) that could be useful.
If a project is going to go bankrupt might as well replease it as a GPL, you've really have little to lose, which is why I was diapointed that 321 studios didn't release their copying software before shutting down.
According to the EFF's, article here, on how to build a PVR, there are no cards to get High Definition Cable or Satellite. Time is running out to get these features into a card before next summer ;).
Anyone know if they've made a card for HDTV cable or satellite?
"Given that BT requires a link to a .torrent, how hard
is it for companies to send a C&D to the ISP/owner of any site hosting illegal .torrent links? "
A few people are working on an anonymous BT tracker tool system for I2P.*ONLY* the BT tracker will be anonymous in this subtool that is being worked on as seen here on an update from 2 days ago. This would allow for publisher anonymity and should be fast since the tracker only coordinates the peers, with the peers doing the heavy lifting.
Of course having full anonymity (for the peers as well) would be useful , and maybe possible, but as your post suggsted - BT is vunerable at the tracker/publisher source. This is a solution to that vunerability, and in any event I2P is fully anonymous itself, if you want peer anonymity for a file :).
This BT tool is not ready yet for I2P, but I2P itself is making remarkable progress so I would not be surprised if it is ready within less than a few months. For more information you can also find the #I2P channel, with the #Freenet channel, on irc.freenode.net , I2P's chat network and IIP (I2P and the Metro IIP are linked).
"If Iran sent me a notice saying that I'm violating so shariat laws, I'd send an equally vocal and Fuck-you letter to them."
:).
I liked your whole letter, but this part especially. Good examples bring it all into focus
I wish i could figure out how to publish a site though :). I bugged them to put in the GUI and the current GUI is extremely good. I think they're planning to continue their commitment to usability by working on 'MyI2P' which will be a easy to use GUI that will allow someone to put up their sites easily.
The BitTorrent system on I2P will only be publisher anonymous though, which is still good/necessary as the BT system seems to be particularly vunerable via the trackers. (Trackers are open to being attacked, DDOSed, threatened etc.). As well there should be very little speed loss in I2P-BT as the anonymous tracker just coordinates, the heavy lifting is done by the peers.
...then will come harassment and demands to look and that will just drive people away from Windows towards Linux.
Bullying people into buying a $15 CD might work, but $200 is a lot more, esp. when there are alternatives.
A good, and working, anonymous P2P alternative to Freent is I2P. The creator of I2P has been around for a while and cross talks with Freenet developers on occasion as both the Freenet and I2P community channels are on the anonymous irc network IIP, and irc.freenode.net.
A lot of I2P is put into the public domain, with parts of it being GPL. Try www.i2p.net for more information.
"Disney is surely benefitting from the change, but so are the hard-working individuals who hold the majority of copyrights."
And then there are the losers, a.k.a. the citizens whose culture is up for sale and will be for the forseeable future.
I am sure microsoft and other companies will also benefit greatly when DRM makes it so every word you read must be paid for, and libraries are closed down as copyright infridgement havens. Who is the loser though, the losers are the information starved citizens in society kept eternally ignorant.
I still haven't heard *your* arguement as to why I should respect the artifical barrier known as copyright, why I should respect the RIAA et al who have been convicted of price fixing's, and why I should bother to support idea monopolists' efforts to keep the masses ignorant.
In the end its all moot, the technology to make copies are here and here to stay. Unless we go back to the old Soviet Union style rules where photocopiers were under armed guard, information will flow. Flow dispite the lawsuits, more laws or police crackdowns.
"..but each of your defenses are ones that have been repeated many times before around here."
;)
Then perhaps it is possible, since everyone is saying the same thing apparently, that these 'defenses' are correct?
If not, feel free to argue why they aren't.
"Slashdot crowd who think that society would be better off if artists and writers knew their place -- give away your stuff for free"
...then I suggest you choose another profession other than author since the current state of technology, that allows unlimited copying, means the current structure of making gobs of money off keeping the masses ignorant and information deprived are over.
;), anyhow I see no reason why these content makers dont have a legacy. Leaving the world one's ideas that are shared and distributed freely is more of a legacy than having your life's work being sealed away by your children, dispensed out on *their* whim for *their* profit.
It isn't about their place in society. I would mostly be content with these writiers and artists not turning so called 'society' into a police state so they could squeeze that extra last dollar out of someone who likely was not going to, or able to afford, that song / book etc.
"If somebody violates your copyright, don't fight back too hard"
Copyright is artifical, you do know this? People speak as if it comes from on high, but it is a law and one that can be changed or even repealed.
"If you have the same aspirations of being a millionaire..."
"A farmer gets to leave a legacy for his children. You don't."
I thought children were peoples' legacy
Try getting VLC (Videolan) it is a free/open source (GPL) video player that I use to play *ALL* of my video files (mpg, divx, avi, xvid, mov, ogm).
I downloaded the torrent and it plays with VLC, and I have divx and xvid installed which may also make a difference.
I find the #1 setback to getting Linux into schools, business and the workplace is employee/user resistance / backlash and resentment.
People don't like having to learn a new operating system, especially if it is forced upon them.
What i'd do is do it piecemeal, first you get rid of office and put in open office or what other Linux suite you'd use. And continue from there.
Anyone else have solutions, or experiences, with user resistance to installing Linux or a new operating system?
"Prior art anyone?"
We need a WikiPriorArt like Wikipedia. So when you ask that you know where to go to check up. And if you do have prior art, you'd go there also and input the prior art.
Also it could be used to publish ideas so they act as prior art against future patent ideas.
Good post Eloquence, you might want to help with this project here that does fact and referencing checks for Wikipedia.
There is already an example #2 of how a tab format might auto generate the quotations, and then people can fill in the sources. Click edit to see the tab structure currently based on comment tabs.
Tim Starling already knows about this, we'd just need a couple lines of code added to Wikimedia to make some custom tabs.
Wikipedia is currently working to reference all the facts on it. There is a project set up to do it also here Fact and Reference Check [wikipedia.org]. Here is a quote:
There isn't any reason why every fact couldn't be referenced making Wikipedia one of the most authoritative sources of information ever created.
There is still discussion on how best to do this so feel free to join up. Also feel free to encourage the people who write the Wikimedia program too add in this tab feature (don't encourage too hard though, they are volunteers :o) )
" Won't many of the features that make Solaris great be ported to Linux before you can say "Holy GPL, Batman!""
;).
It works the other way too, now that Solaris is going open source, and if its GPL say, then Solaris can port things from Linux and the rest. I suspect Sun thinks it will get a lot of developers to this for free for them
The problem is that Sun is late to the party, yet again, and is playing catch up. I think they waited too long but what choice do they have...
This reminds me of a story that Slashdot posted about someone having a new perspective on time which turned out to be a hoax. I bet if you find the story you can get some karma :o).
Wikipedia is currently working to reference all the facts on it. There is a project set up to do it also here Fact and Reference Check. Here is a quote:
There isn't any reason why every fact couldn't be referenced making Wikipedia one of the most authoritative sources of information ever created.
"When you go to your department store and you buy 10 Cognac glasses and two weeks later you break two of them, the store doesn't give you two backup copies"
Since CDs can stop working with a small scratch, unlike Cognac glasses, and the studios prevent back ups then they are the ones to replace it. Give us the ability to back up our software, Jack, and we won't need to bother you about replacements.