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Row Brews Over P2P Advertising
KennyMillar writes "BBC News Online is reporting that advertisers are starting to place ads on P2P networks, because they are so popular. But the owners of paid-for download services are accusing them of "providing 'oxygen' for companies that support illegal downloading.""
Providing oxygen to illegal downloading? Okay the next time you get in a car and drive on a road, you are supporting drunk driving.
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How dare they come up with an innovative business model that directly competes with established companies. This isn't a free market here.
Don't get me wrong though, ads in P2P networks are a huge pain in the ass.
I upgraded my wrt54g to a newer firmware and one of the features in the it has host blocking. I simply added a list of advertisers to the router block. The first one added was doubleclick.net. Mass advertisging I guess will have to be distributed rather than a single company or I will contiue to block single point companies.
As for the advertising. Well my bittorrent client has no images, I can turn adverts off with Mozilla on web pages, so I'm fairly free. There are ads all over the internet now, why is this any different.. Now if they started inserting ad breaks into a film I downloaded that may be a different matter.
...wait until the ads start popping up. Unwanted advertising seems to infect every aspect of our lives. On the other hand, is this a sign that P2P is gradually becoming legitimatized? If major companies start promoting their products on your favorite P2P program, then perhaps the **IA will be less inclined to sue. We can only hope...
Never heard money called "oxygen" before.
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On one side amoral advertisers who will stoop to any measure to get their 'message' across. On the other possibly the greediest most conniving industry in the world. Lets hope they do some serious damage to each other.
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It seems like these ads are likely to push everyone the way they are already headed, more towards bittorrent over centralized P2P networks. geraldkw
"Paul Myers, chief executive of Wippit - a peer to peer service which provides paid-for music downloads - believes it is time advertisers stopped providing 'oxygen' for companies that support illegal downloading.
"You may be surprised to know that current advertisers on the most popular peer to peer service eDonkey who now steadfastly support copyright theft with real cash money include Nat West, Vodafone, O2, First Direct, NTL, and Renault," he said in an open letter to the British Phonographic Industry last month.
He urged people to follow his lead and 'dump' brands associated with companies such as eDonkey.
'Networks like eDonkey, Kazaa and Grokster facilitate illegal filesharing. The BPI strongly believes that any reputable company should look carefully at the support they are giving these networks through their advertising revenue," it said in a statement. "
Self-serving words aside, he's got a point. If advertisers want to place themselves on P2P networks, doesn't that legitimize them? The next time Congress tries to declare P2P an outlaw technology, just say, "But it's got mainstream advertising! It must be legitimate. Money makes the world go round, right Congressman? You wouldn't want to outlaw an outlet for advertising dollars, would you?"
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Not that this would actually work very well.
Think about all the different peer-to-peer systems in use. Gnutella, BitTorrent, Fasttrack, etc... The people using KaZaA Media Desktop are already seeing ads. Same with Limewire Basic. But all the rest, Shareaza on Windows, probably every implentation of BitTorrent, Acquisition on Mac OS X....how the hell are you going to insert ads into these programs?
...Unless these ads are just going to consist of miniscule files with keywords and a URL in the file name, that dominate your search results? That's more just spamming than anything else. I don't see how that'd be much in the way of an effective delivery method for advertisements. It's unreliable, most p2p clients don't have a provision for being able to click a link in a file name in search results window and send that to your browser.
I'd say most people that are smart enough to use various p2p systems in the first place are probably going to go for an open and free network instead of some proprietary bullshit from some dot-com, and avoid all these ads entirely. Bottom line, unethical, impractical, just plain dumb. Never going to happen.
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How is this any different to government adverts on late night tv in the uk? Are the government trying to encourage people to stay up late watching pr0n on channel 5, in order that they watch their adverts? Because, if they are, that's morally reprehensable, and obscene, and the government clearly supports pr0n, so I Object!
I never really used the P2P clients but I like bittorrent but I have noticed that some bittorrent places are now pay sites to get the torrents. Makes you wonder if these will also become legit because they make money.
They do. It's called "product placement." E.g. ever notice how (almost) every computer ever shown in movie or TV show is a Mac?
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I don't see a reason for compaines to try to use ads in p2p, since most of the users are just teenagers getting music and have little money to begin with, most adults are to afraid to use p2p because they see it in the news with the lawsuits going on with the RIAA, In my oppion i'll just stick with torrents its nice, spyware free and the system works a hell of alot beter and you know the file your revieing works unlike the .mp3s going around on kazaa.
The last thing I got via a P2P network was a free application for BSD.. Which was copyrighted of course..
Don't see anything illegal with that.
The last MP3 I got, was from a band sponsored website ' please download these and do what you want with them , share them.. burn them.. and if you like it come back and buy our album " Their music is ALSO copyrighted..
Enough with the 'its all copyright piracy' arguments already..
And this doesnt even touch the argument that even downloading 'restricted' media may actually be legal anyway in many cases, regardless of what the RIAA/MPAA thinks..
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It's interesting to see that advert companies are taking this stance. I'm guessing they've realised that P2P is very unlikely to ever be stamped out properly (especially with millions more people every day gaining access to the net) so why not cash in on something that is theoretically 'legal' (until the users themselves share copyrighted material).
...after all, an advert saying "We can see what you're sharing" would probably scare plenty of the less clueful P2P users. Whether the P2P networks would accept advertising from them would be an interesting question - if, as they claim, their intention is for legitimate file sharing only then they wouldn't really have a leg to stand on if they wanted to refuse it.
I guess it's a bit like fly posting.
It seems that P2P apps are legal, and they look likely to stay that way. Therefore, corporate ethics states that there's no reason not to advertise on them since supporting a legal service through legal means is generally considered to be legal. There's not a lot that the various 'AA's can do about it. They're the last organisations that have the right to criticise others for only caring about the bottom line.
On the plus side, it does mean that the P2P companies have some worthwhile income. The record industry would have much more sympathy if it claimed that it had a right to a percentage of that income.
If their "competition" is the music industry, then their product is something to which they don't own the rights.
If it's not the music industry, then you're talking out your ass.
I can't understand how people wouldn't want advertising added to their P2P, their IM, and their cell phone! I personally get many interesting offers every day and I'm sure to buy things that way, because that's how you get the best deals!!! Just the other day I got a movie popup on AIM and it was all about the Polar Express movie and so I immediately went out and watched it and let me tell you it was quite a good movie for me to watch and touching too! Then I was browsing msnbc.com and I got ads for a new Jeep Liberty which now I want to buy because it is trail rated and that is important to me! I didn't realize there was such a thing as trail rating for cars but apparently there is and my current honda civic that I added a sweet spoiler to is simply not going to cut it on the trails. I can't wait until I get lots of offers on my phone and on my P2P because that's basically all I do is txt people on the phone and then download the coolest songs by aviril lavigne, who is awesome. Her and jessica simpson are my playlist right now ever seence I saw jessica's cd in 7-11 where I hang out when I'm txting and downloading things. I'm gunna go now bcause I want to find any P2P clients with advertising, people please respond with links to them! THanks!
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...by the use of the word "row."
So the obvious solution is for media companies and studios to start building P2P broadcast stations that produce such high-quality entertainment that a) it can generate huge ad revenues and b) it drowns out the illegal stuff... right?
Why they should do this:
1. They're not restricted in terms of media. They can ship any audio, video, text, software, etc. media that the "viewers" can open.
2. They have a leg-up on illegal files because they can provide several stable download points (perhaps even using something like Akamai) that make their files faster to download.
3. There is no uplink lag
4. Uplink equipment cost is trivial by comparison with a broadcast or even cable station.
5. Ad revenues can be tied to more reliable measures of the viewer base than with broadcast or television. Neilsen would love this, as would advertisers.
6. You get to leap-frog HDTV and go to better digital formats long before HDTV telvisions have saturated the market.
There are more, subtler advantages, but I think any Hollywood MBA worth is diploma should be able to see them.
Not that I ever seen big companies put ads on P2P sites but if they do it is a sure sign that the music industry is now considered worthy of being ripped off by both consumers and other industries.
Lets face it. File sharing is good business. ISP's and telecoms make money off it. Recordable CD/DVD makers earn from every burned game/movie/cd. Burner makers profit. HD makers profit. Modem makers profit. Cable companies making the cables being rolled out to support our ever increasing data needs profit. Streetmakers profit because cables go underground.
Everybody is making money of filesharing except the music industry and now even totally unrelated industries are finding ways to make a buck out of it. It makes sense for a mobile phone company to advertise to music file sharers. Kids who don't spend money on overpriced cd's DO spend it on SMS packages.
Music industry wake up. Nobody likes you or your product. Get with the times or die. When the first cars arrived I bet the horse industry held similar pleas and nobody cared back then either.
Want to beat filesharing? I got a very simple solution. Get rid of pre-pressed cd's. Put 1 big central computer in each record labels basement wich contains all their songs ever recorded. Put smaller computers hooked up to the net in each point of sale. Give it a few terrabyte cache with the best sellers. Put up several terminals for people to browse the catalogs and sample songs. On request burn or upload selected songs to the buyer. Songs in the cache cost no extra bandwidth and HD space is cheap. Songs downloaded cost peanuts.
Every point of sale will have an infinite stock and be able to sell to every type of music lover. No longer problems with over or understocking. No stolen cd cases.
A simple business model and one the point of sales people love. They have been suggesting this for a long time and several have tried.
But the music industry doesn't want it. It prefers to cling on to the old model. Some horse cart makers turned to making horseless carriages and survived, some didn't. Do we really care about the losers?
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yeah I saw I, Robot too. but at least product placement isn't taking up a portion of the screen blocking my movie. I have no problems with PP. it's stupid.. but no problems with it. Really good movies will tend not to have PP.
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If advertising on P2P networks is 'oxygen' for piracy, does that mean.....
Advertising on Indy cars encourages drivers to go 200+ MPH?
Advertising on NASCAR cars encourages to only turn left (except for two times a year)?
Advertising in adult magazines encourages people to do everything naked? Ok, that one may be stretching it, but you get my point......
Advertisers want the best bang for the buck. It's only a sensible business model.
Just as Indy wasn't created as an outlet to teach people to speed, P2P networks were not created (well, most of them) to allow people to Pirate.
People do speed, people do pirate software. Evil people will do evil things, regardless of who the advertiser is.
I mean, come one, do you really think that stupid Joe Camel guy was encouraging kids to smoke? I think a half naked lady is more encouraging to a 13 year old than a dromendon with a phallic symbol for a nose.
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If the Artists were approaching P2P Networks with their recordings, and trying to arrange distribution, that would be a competing business model.
That's not what's happening, they're facilitating illegal copyright violations on a massive scale.
So can I pay for the software I am downloading from the P2P network in order to not see the ads at all?
Oh wait...nevermind.
What are the chances that anyone is going to follow an ad in a P2P program? I mean it is probably just as pointless as the links people (like myself) put in our sigs on Slashdot. It's more or less a waste of time 99.99% of the time. It's just something to do for me...I expect no return on it. And neither should the ads in P2P programs, in my opinion.
That's the free market solution, and may I say, I agree with you.
The problem is, larger industries, recording included, tend to favor market intervention and spend a lot of money lobbying Congress to enact it. Rather than seeking to capitalize on an obviously good business model, they want to stick with what they know and try to get some laws passed that will support their ways.
Personally, I think 99 cents a track is a slap in the face to the consumer, because that's still $12-15 an album (and some full albums are good from beginning to end, not just two tracks and a lot of filler). At that price, I might as well go buy it and get the case, liner notes, higher quality recording, etc.
not supporting the web sites.
Jeez Louise.
Since when did advertisers give a shit about supporting the company carrying their adverts?
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ever notice how (almost) every computer ever shown in movie or TV show is a Mac?
I've heard that's really because two button mice confuse actors.
Most of the places that host (or link to) .torrent files sell advertising space. I've seen some surprising companies advertising on suprnova.org recently (eg Halifax)
Another example of the entertainment industry having a bigger mouth than it deserves.
Just how the hell do they manage to shout so LOUDLY!! The games industry is worth ten times that of the movie industry, yet we never hear the gaming companies moning that P2P has taken away 85% of their business unlike the whinging pathetic record labels and movie houses
Screw em, the sooner the big 5 record labels and God knows how many hooooge movie companies go bust and leave room for the small inovative, value for money quality establishments the better.
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This is already in effect in some ways but:
Really, it wouldn't have to work by having ads in the clients, but rather on the network itself. Already we have P2P pollution with a number of misnamed files up for download, how much harder would it be for an advertiser to seed several machines with "Britney Spears - Greatest Hits.mp3" which is really an audio-ad for cosmetics, or "Nude Swedish Maids" which is a video ad for some viagara alternative...
jpegs and other images are even easier to use as ads.
Many P2P programs already have filters and such to stream out the crapulance, but if an onslaught of advertising such as is hitting the email world comes along it will be a lot harder to filter/block.
Why not wrap a tune in a simple ad wrapper with a viewer app that shows you the ad then drops the tune, movie, or pic on your desktop. Sure you could ignore it and sure someone could make a tool to unwrap it but many many people would just watch the ad. If the ad was well focused and for a item of real interest to the user, they might event want to watch it. Good ads work you know. Think about it here is a song with an ad for tickets to the artist's next concert a link to a site with paraphernalia, live feeds or chats, being as the file would be free, legal and make money for the artist I do not see why people would not willingly select them.
Your printer is out of paper. A dialog pops up:
You open the system control folder. Before showing your files, it tells you:
You start writing a letter. A window opens:
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Look, it's another idiot who thinks that because people use a tool for illegal purposes, those who use it legitimately should have their right to do so taken away from them.
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How dare they come up with an innovative business model that directly competes with established companies.
It's not that innovative-- it takes an established business model (radio) and brings P2P one step closer to it.
Radio (and TV) sends content for "free" out to anyone with a receiver. The price is that you have to pay in units of time by listening to (or seeing) ads. The buyers of the ads are the real customers, and the listeners are the product.
In the P2P world, users broadcast stuff to each other. Advertisers buy time/space from the makers of the P2P tools. Now all that's needed is to improve the signal to noise ratio so that you pretty much get the thing you were looking for every time (or nearly so). (It could be already there, I haven't gotten around to trying P2P music). Then have systems in place (e.g. Big Champagne) to track what tracks get moved, report that to ASCAP/BMI and pay the artists from the ad revenues.
Sounds like radio to me, but even more powerful, with the possibility of accurately directed micro ad campaigns...It could also track music use more accurately, so small artists with a steady following might get some return.
Hey, I better patent that and anything related to it so I can serve the RIAA with legal notices once they start doing it...
If major companies start promoting their products on your favorite P2P program, then perhaps the **IA will be less inclined to sue.
Somehow I doubt it. If anything the RIAA or MPAA will then start targeting companies that advertise on the P2P networks. Especially expect to see this if the Induce Act passes. These companies will be a good target simply because they have money which Joe Schmoe file-trader doesn't have. In fact, the **AA might be able to bankroll their lawsuits against Joe Schmoe by suing the larger companies and that way not even take a loss on the hundreds of lawsuits they file against the little guy.
Oh isn't it all just so disgustingly evil?
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Just make popups and banner ads appear on the page hosting all the torrent files.
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Suprnova.org has been doing this for a while.
And who's advertising on Suprnova.org??
Well, since I'm in Canada I keep seeing ads for the famous U.S. Greencard Lottery (yes - just like the first spam on the Internet.....) and for Zip.ca.
Zip.ca is an online DVD rental company like NetFlix.com - but Zip.ca has side banners on Suprnova.org
I think they also have pop-ups but I'm not sure since I have pop-up blocking on
Seeing as every corporate entity would try to stick an advert on the Pope's ass if they could, having a go at people for advertising where their adverts will reach people is abject hypocrisy. Sore losers, the lot of 'em.
I agree fully. Don't know about anyone else, but when I'm downloading, I minimize the window so I can do other things.
Total exposure time to ad: 5 seconds.
Whoop dee doo. Businesses: Advertise all you want. I'll just ignore it.
people still use P2P programs? wow. i don't know a single person who does, mainly because of the RIAA danger, and you can't find what you want anymore... it used to be "Search, click, download" and you're instantly getting what you want, its impossible nowadays on P2P networks (except bittorrent, but i hate the sudden criminalization of it) to get a single song you want in less than half an hour, and if you do, you might have the RIAA sending a legal notice to your door. i think people are shying away from p2p and moving to more legal methods. look at how many people are using rhapsody, napster, and itunes music store. i haven't used a p2p app to download anything copyrighted in over a year, and neither has anyone i know. my friends and i used to trade MP3's, but now we make trips to the local CD store together. maybe because i'm a musician, i realized after the whole P2P hayday with RIAA that its not worth it. but to say that P2P is more widely used now than ever, and growing? i find that hard to believe.
Well, this already happens to some degree - when my Epson printer gets low on, or runs out of ink.
A dialog will appear with a "Clink Here to Buy Ink" button, which oddly enough, takes you right to the Epson online store...
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"Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence." - Charles de Gaulle
I believe the press release read:
Yes, that is correct.Owners of paid-for download services provide a benefit to the community in the same way that SCO is an ethical company.
I think you'd be hard pressed, however, to find someone who sees advertising near the copier to be a serious problem.
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This was in the Daily Nebraskan and other college newspapers today.
Know any of them?
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I was actually getting quite annoyed by this last night. Most of the torrent listing sites don't give much information on what each torrent is. I was trying to downoad some free (hopefully legal) information, but most of the available torrents were merely pdf'd printouts of someone else's website or scanned pamphlet with a PDF advertizement for a casino shoved in. Rather like spam, this just increases the noise to signal ratio. I'd rather not waste my bandwidth sharing an ad for a lottery scam with the world.
"P2P should be banned because there is no potential legal use for it, therefore anyone using it is intending to break the law."
Oh, wait, a legal use for P2P?
"This legal use must stop because it encourages illegal use..."
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Damn, my RAM is full of llamas.
I'm pretty surprised any p2p app that has the potential to be used for illegal filetrading is using ads, as that revenue stream is exactly what got Napster collared and dragged through the courts.
Soulseek was smart enough to use a donation system instead, as that doesn't give the "directly profiting from people using the system" way in the legal bods needed to prosecute the bejesus out of them.
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I have an archive of 20,000 technical books that take up a total of about 150GB, everything from "programming your toaster - the geeks guide" to "PHP, for advanced users". I'll tell you one thing though, it shure kicks googles ass when I am searching for somthing technical....
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I have an archive of 20,000 technical books that take up a total of about 150GB, everything from "programming your toaster - the geeks guide" to "PHP, for advanced users". I'll tell you one thing though, it shure kicks googles ass when I am searching for somthing technical.!!!!!
What they don't get is this, the Internet itself facilitates illegal downloading. It's happening in the ftp, irc and http protocols, as well as in P2P networks.
IMHO p2p is just another, more efficient, method of file downloading that everyone needs to take advantage of, not just the pirates. The pirates just got there first, because they're early adopters of the technologies that shape the Internet.
The Internet has always wanted to be free.
...but I would /kill/ for a government that supports pr0n. The one we have now flips out over a nipple. Hell, I was looking at nipples when I was less than a year old, but then, I don't have the moral sense, as our Fearless Leader (TM) would put it.
Which is your favorite P2P filesharing program:
a) Kazaa
b) eDonkey
c) BitTorrent
d) Other
e) Too scared of the RIAA
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Don't forget bundled with P2P applications like kazza you are installing software like WhenU.
This is NOT NORMAL WEB ADVERTISING in a lot of cases. This is software that normal users install unaware that it is modifying windows and hooking into IE to pop up adverts all the time even when the P2P client is not open, made legal by dodgy clickwrap agreements on the P2P software that no-one reads whilst installing kazza.
So before everyone says that P2P software companies have the right to earn advertising revenue, remember this is often not normal web advertising it's normally thiefware/spyware applications doing the advertising. It's just that most advertisers don't care, they bulk buy their mediaspace through agencies that can buy space on WhenU etc, very cheaply. And now companies like whenU are getting into bed with the spyware removal companies it's going to get even harder to remove all the pop-ups from your friends PCs.
Can't think of any better way to stop illegal p2p networking other than to open up the market for ads... soon enough you'll be the only one on ur p2p network, everyone else will be buying viagra and enlarging their penis.
Years ago, my company bought a lot of ad space on Kazaa. My company is well-known and we were advertising a popular CE device that's done very well in the market. Our ad contract was worth well into the six figures.
The ads did very poorly. The click-through was much lower than it was for the same ads elsewhere on the 'net. We got out of the contract.
While some of that might be attributed to Kazaa Lite or some other apps that counted ad views but didn't show them to the customers (I'm guessing here; not sure if that's how Kazaa Lite works), the analyis was that it was primarily due to it being the wrong audience -- largely teens with no interest in spending money.
Our dealings with the folks at Kazaa were interesting. They're bigger than many people think. They're very smart, drive tough deals and do a huge amount of business. Although they never did admit it in writing, they know darn well that their product, in the marketing sense (please, no "but it's the users who provide the product" retorts) is a vast collection of pirated material.
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I dunno, really... I like it more online, 'cause I can use technological solution to solve problems and they work. In Real World I have to watch on the ads, because I can't walk with my eyes closed. I have to listen to ads on radio when it's playing in public places. But in the comfort of my home, on my PC I am almost completely safe from intrusive ads. AtGuard! and Proxomitron remove all and any adverts. The only drawbacks are that the page layout is mangled sometimes when I remove a huge banner and that ads on some minor sites can get through.
Really, I like it better online. Can't wait for Augmented Reality glasses that would do the same for real world.
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Maybe some advertisers could help host the 'fake' files seen on some p2p networks and instead of silence, they could put in an ad. Then again, it might make people hate the company :)
"You start writing a letter. A window opens:
Writing a business letter? Buy xxxxxxxxx's Business Letter Assistant, and be more productive and more successful! Click here!"
I'd still rather have that message than that f*cking paper clip!!!...
Is this really so difficult? I would think that the demographics would be fairly simply, Females 14-45. If you wanted to be really conservative, you target them from 12 to 55 (puberty keeps occuring earlier and menopause doesn't happen in some women until fairly late in life).
I have taken for granted that advertsiing will always exist. And, for that matter, ways of blocking ads will proliferate just as quickly whether it's TiVo for your television, AdBlock for web-browsing, or KazaaLite for P2P. There are those who argue that the methods for blocking ads just create an arms race where advertisers respond by ramping up their attempts to get our attention, but I say that that they'd ramp these things up due to competition with or without our attempts to escape the ads.
Speaking of which, Phillip K. Dick had it about right when it came to intrusive advertising, his stories involving forced-experience billboards that took control of your synapses or the robot which camped in your house breaking things and then fixing them to show its utility and would not leave until you bought it.
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The movie and music industries are overrun with greedy, whiny Jews, that is the problem.
have you also noticed how in almost every show you see (including porn. because well, you can never forget porn) the apple logo is covered up? i cant tell you HOW many Tibooks ive seen with postits over the apple logo. what the hell? you cant display an apple logo if apple doesent want you to? -nrs
"Illegal file-sharers steal millions of pounds worth of music through these services."
It's in megabytes... 1's and 0's, not actual weight as in pounds!
What a dumbass!
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on the p2p sites. What a surprise.
Like who uses the edonkey client anyway?
Why is the news always a few years out of date.
I guess endorsements aren't just for athletes and movie stars anymore. Now even Clippy has his own endorsement deals.
Only in America.
Remember the days when Republicans were the party of fiscal responsibility?
I never contracted with the P2P networks for them to "distribute" my work. And to play Devil's Advocate to your pro stance on P2P, I have yet to even receive one penny from a P2P network for the product they've "delivered".
eDonkey advertises? Hmmm. How long is it before we see the eDonkey suit against emule and emuleplus? >_
A .wmv file that you can't fast-forward, with an URL at the end that you can visit for free, legal stuff. People would download them like crazy, and if they're only 30 seconds or so, there would be little point to trying to bypass them anyhow. A quiz question about the commercial would help make sure someone actually watched it, especially if everyone gets a different question.
"Watch our commercial, get two free songs." It could work. People aren't going to retain the files, meaning the advertisers would have to host them and have plenty of bandwidth, but that's hardly insurmountable.
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That's why we registered thepiratebay.{com,net,org} etc. :P
I didn't see them! Does anyone have a torrent?
I always figured they used Macs in movies because they don't look as bland as your average PC.. Apple has nearly always had the "wow" factor in its favor as far as glossy designs go.