The Star Trek universe is based on ideals over 50 year old. As they use the universe more, more and more stuff gets Retcon into it, often rather sloppily. It is more then just technology and special effect. In "2001 A Space Odyssey" The characters were cool and rational much like Vulcan's in Star Trek. Because we more or less assumed that we would adapt to be rational to work better with technology vs. Having technology designed better to deal with our crazy human nonsense. The humans in Star Trek while not as extreme as Vulcan, still used a lot of this reasoning that we have became smarten and more rational with the use of computers.
Taking a look around... Seems like we hoped the future would be like Star Trek and feared it would be like 1984, turns out that "Idiocracy" was right....
With a third grader kid in TNG complaining that he doesn't want to take Calculus, now I think the point they were making was STTNG was set so far in the future so like how Calculus 300 years ago was only for Math PHD's and today it is taught in High School, that in the next 300 years we can tech this to 3rd graders is kinda silly. But this fits on the vision we will adapt to the changes as fast as the changes expand.
The Orville dumped this universe. While they are smart people, they are also people who are street smart, or just kinda off dull. They may be good at their job, but that is about it.
Yeaaaahhhhkindof... The Enterprise was the flagship filled with the smartest of the smarties and the bravest and best and everything. The question of how normal people would behave in the same universe would still have room for the Orville.
There's too many transgenders!! There's too many Muslims!! There's too many FUCKING BROWN PEOPLE!!! *sniff* *sniff* An' they're all comin' a'git me in my sleep!!
Straw man much?
I don't give a crap about the races of the characters, but I do care when every character that doesn't belong to some minority group is either evil,
I hope that IS a minority....
I don't want to see a gay couple making out in an SF series, but I don't want to see ANYONE who should rather get a room there either. Even the decontamination gel fan service in the Enterprise pilot was unnecessary and misplaces. as are the space mushrooms.
Benjamin Sisko was an awesome protagonist, but apparently somewhere along the way the writers forgot how to write engaging characters and now only make a checklist of diversity requirements without actually making the characters interesting. Diversity is fine, but when that's all that a character has that character becomes a one-dimensional uninteresting caricature.
Yes, but no ST series got that right in a first season. Worf was nothing but aggressive, Q nothing but annoying, Data was the oblig Spock copy. They all started with exactly one character trait Deana Troy even with just one single line: ("Captain! I can sense something here") And in all series they got more complex and interesting. (DS9 mastered this, VOY not so...) so there is still hope for Discovery. What's interesting that they are already bringing their 2nd line of characters into position. Lt. Owesoku and that red haired girl with the metal face implant are ready to replace whoever they killed of in the first season trying to get the G.R.R. Martin Memorial Award
Yes. They had those "wholesome" stories that wanted to make us think about where our society is headed and crime and punishment and live and death... just like Next Generation. ( http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/... being the worst of them!) ST:TNG often has been ridiculed for those type of plots and it was amazing that within a few episodes, The Orville picked up exactly those aspects of Star Trek. And dropped all those penis jokes instead.
The first-ever official Star Trek comedy series has been ordered.
They should just allow The Orvile to use actual Trek artwork and names....
Anyone else thinks that feels more Star Trek than Discovery*?
*which is not bad and there shouldn't be a difference between classical technobabble explaining away everything or some magic mushroom stuff doing the same... but it feels more fantasy than Trek usually was.
...what has happened so fundamentally in our country (US) where people don't care about actual citizenship, and protecting our borders?
If you are here in this country illegally, you have criminally trespassed. You should be deported.
That is the current law.
That has always been the law.
The problem is that it has been ignored for ages.
I haven't heard anyone complaining when illegal immigrants opened shops, paid taxes and even created jobs. In some agricultural areas the economy wouldn't work without cheap labor from illegal immigrants.
There is nothing wrong with setting strict immigration rules and enforcing them. But you can't enforce them at will when it's convenient. Yes, you have to start enforcing it at some point, but if at that point you haven't grandfathered in at least people who have been paying taxes for years (they are willing to contribute, that's the people you WANT to be in your country, no matter where they are from) that backlog will block all your ressources you would need to deal with new immigrants.
Rule 1. First of all, love the Lord God with your whole heart, your whole soul, and your whole strength.
A majority of developers will likely be of some religion that can identify with that statement; However, the statement could disturb atheists who might participate in the project, when the CoC references particular individual practices they disagree with.
On the other hand it's also true that the code doesn't mention any consequences for failing to follow specific rules on individual conduct.
Well, considering that this was designed for a religious organisation whose whole point was to work and pray, it may be translated to commit yourself to whatever cause and goal your organisation has. You don't need to sacrifice all your personal life to your open source hobby, but don't do half-assed what you're doing for it.
Consequences for failing the rules are described in chapters 23 to 27, but that may be referring to the other, more specific and "technical" rules how a monastery should be ran.
Obviously those references terms of a CoC are metaphorical, as you can arbitrarily apply them to the belief system you hold.
However you are wrong about 44, it has no reference to God and is obviously referring to pull request reviews. 45 is about over-long standups.
I though 44 was about project delivery deadlines and getting your customer to sign a successful UAT....
But jokes aside... it may not translate 1:1 to todays IT landscape, but being over 1000 years old it's amazing how well it still would work as a guideline for a modern CoC.
..it's highly probable that you're one of the people that make them necessary.
Which is no contradiction to what a user posted above: The people who you need a CoC for are the ones no one wants to work with anyway.
In other words: As soon as you have, need or should have a CoC, you're going down that road to hell anyway, no matter which good intentions you had to have or have not a CoC.
Well, considering that Marx said that [christian] religion is the ideal partner for capitalism and that the goal of philosophy is to overcome all heavenly and earthly gods*.... you may want to give your own definition of religion to support that. I mean, they are obviously zealots, but looks like you don't need religion for that.
... I thought regulation didn't cost anything, and you could just mandate goodness for free?
I'll gladly not pay Google to not have their spyware built into, unremovable from
Talk to your device manufacturer. They always have the option to use alternatives. But they even can keep on using the android base and use a different store system. Of course running your own here costs money, that's why they are flocking to Google. But as I said: Talk to your manufacturer.
As Banksy is alive and active, he's still in control of the valuation of his works. If he's upset that his art is being sold for millions of dollars, all he has to do is crank out a metric ton more art.
Sounds like something he could indeed have in his pipeline....
I'm sorry and I know that they aren't very popular here, but that's what patents are for.
Afraid of commercializing something and someone reverse-analysing and stealing it? Patent it! It's public knowledge then, but you can sue the crap out of anyone trying to steal it.
If you are presented with 5 different ways a story ends, people would want to know how it really ends or which one is correct.
Those "choose your adventure" books always had one real ending (killing the princess and rescue the dragon.. whatever.. there's a reason why they work well with plain vanilla fantasy) and you had to get to that ending.
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Kes *shudder*
The most boring character ever. And the only idea the producers had to make her a bit less boring were long blonde hair....
And I don't want to argue over Janeways feminity.... I'd rather remember Kiry Nerys in a dress on the piano in Vic Fontaine's bar....
The Star Trek universe is based on ideals over 50 year old. As they use the universe more, more and more stuff gets Retcon into it, often rather sloppily.
It is more then just technology and special effect. In "2001 A Space Odyssey" The characters were cool and rational much like Vulcan's in Star Trek. Because we more or less assumed that we would adapt to be rational to work better with technology vs. Having technology designed better to deal with our crazy human nonsense. The humans in Star Trek while not as extreme as Vulcan, still used a lot of this reasoning that we have became smarten and more rational with the use of computers.
Taking a look around... Seems like we hoped the future would be like Star Trek and feared it would be like 1984, turns out that "Idiocracy" was right....
With a third grader kid in TNG complaining that he doesn't want to take Calculus, now I think the point they were making was STTNG was set so far in the future so like how Calculus 300 years ago was only for Math PHD's and today it is taught in High School, that in the next 300 years we can tech this to 3rd graders is kinda silly. But this fits on the vision we will adapt to the changes as fast as the changes expand.
The Orville dumped this universe. While they are smart people, they are also people who are street smart, or just kinda off dull. They may be good at their job, but that is about it.
Yeaaaahhhhkindof... The Enterprise was the flagship filled with the smartest of the smarties and the bravest and best and everything. The question of how normal people would behave in the same universe would still have room for the Orville.
+1 insightful
Their special effects are great, and their battle scenes are mostly awesome as well.
Or rather good special effects became affordable compared to The Enterprise-B's maiden voyage....
Don't forget that DS9 used an Amiga on steroids for their special effects and that was a step up from TNG....
There's too many transgenders!! There's too many Muslims!! There's too many FUCKING BROWN PEOPLE!!! *sniff* *sniff* An' they're all comin' a'git me in my sleep!!
Straw man much?
I don't give a crap about the races of the characters, but I do care when every character that doesn't belong to some minority group is either evil,
I hope that IS a minority....
I don't want to see a gay couple making out in an SF series, but I don't want to see ANYONE who should rather get a room there either. Even the decontamination gel fan service in the Enterprise pilot was unnecessary and misplaces. as are the space mushrooms.
Benjamin Sisko was an awesome protagonist, but apparently somewhere along the way the writers forgot how to write engaging characters and now only make a checklist of diversity requirements without actually making the characters interesting. Diversity is fine, but when that's all that a character has that character becomes a one-dimensional uninteresting caricature.
Yes, but no ST series got that right in a first season. Worf was nothing but aggressive, Q nothing but annoying, Data was the oblig Spock copy. They all started with exactly one character trait Deana Troy even with just one single line: ("Captain! I can sense something here") And in all series they got more complex and interesting. (DS9 mastered this, VOY not so...) so there is still hope for Discovery. What's interesting that they are already bringing their 2nd line of characters into position. Lt. Owesoku and that red haired girl with the metal face implant are ready to replace whoever they killed of in the first season trying to get the G.R.R. Martin Memorial Award
Yes. They had those "wholesome" stories that wanted to make us think about where our society is headed and crime and punishment and live and death... just like Next Generation. ( http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/... being the worst of them!) ST:TNG often has been ridiculed for those type of plots and it was amazing that within a few episodes, The Orville picked up exactly those aspects of Star Trek. And dropped all those penis jokes instead.
The first-ever official Star Trek comedy series has been ordered.
They should just allow The Orvile to use actual Trek artwork and names....
Anyone else thinks that feels more Star Trek than Discovery*?
*which is not bad and there shouldn't be a difference between classical technobabble explaining away everything or some magic mushroom stuff doing the same... but it feels more fantasy than Trek usually was.
...what has happened so fundamentally in our country (US) where people don't care about actual citizenship, and protecting our borders?
If you are here in this country illegally, you have criminally trespassed. You should be deported.
That is the current law.
That has always been the law.
The problem is that it has been ignored for ages.
I haven't heard anyone complaining when illegal immigrants opened shops, paid taxes and even created jobs. In some agricultural areas the economy wouldn't work without cheap labor from illegal immigrants.
There is nothing wrong with setting strict immigration rules and enforcing them. But you can't enforce them at will when it's convenient. Yes, you have to start enforcing it at some point, but if at that point you haven't grandfathered in at least people who have been paying taxes for years (they are willing to contribute, that's the people you WANT to be in your country, no matter where they are from) that backlog will block all your ressources you would need to deal with new immigrants.
Rule 1. First of all, love the Lord God with your whole heart, your whole soul, and your whole strength.
A majority of developers will likely be of some religion that can identify with that statement; However, the statement could disturb
atheists who might participate in the project, when the CoC references particular individual practices they disagree with.
On the other hand it's also true that the code doesn't mention any consequences for failing to follow specific rules on individual conduct.
Well, considering that this was designed for a religious organisation whose whole point was to work and pray, it may be translated to commit yourself to whatever cause and goal your organisation has. You don't need to sacrifice all your personal life to your open source hobby, but don't do half-assed what you're doing for it.
Consequences for failing the rules are described in chapters 23 to 27, but that may be referring to the other, more specific and "technical" rules how a monastery should be ran.
44. Fear the Day of Judgment.
Obviously those references terms of a CoC are metaphorical, as you can arbitrarily apply them to the belief system you hold.
However you are wrong about 44, it has no reference to God and is obviously referring to pull request reviews. 45 is about over-long standups.
I though 44 was about project delivery deadlines and getting your customer to sign a successful UAT ....
But jokes aside... it may not translate 1:1 to todays IT landscape, but being over 1000 years old it's amazing how well it still would work as a guideline for a modern CoC.
..it's highly probable that you're one of the people that make them necessary.
Which is no contradiction to what a user posted above: The people who you need a CoC for are the ones no one wants to work with anyway.
In other words: As soon as you have, need or should have a CoC, you're going down that road to hell anyway, no matter which good intentions you had to have or have not a CoC.
Yes. No CoC should need to be longer than... "just try to not be a jerk".
That's probably even a condensed version of the decalog, which in itself is already a really good shot at a far reaching CoC with amazing brevity.
Well... think of self organizing groups working together for their common good.
SJWs are religious. Marxism is their religion
Well, considering that Marx said that [christian] religion is the ideal partner for capitalism and that the goal of philosophy is to overcome all heavenly and earthly gods*.... you may want to give your own definition of religion to support that. I mean, they are obviously zealots, but looks like you don't need religion for that.
* roughly translated from https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
the kind of people that need a CoC are the kind of people no one wants to work with.
Amen to that!
I don't think someone outside of clueless internet forums said or expected that. But of course that's where being offended by anything happens.
... I thought regulation didn't cost anything, and you could just mandate goodness for free?
I'll gladly not pay Google to not have their spyware built into, unremovable from
Talk to your device manufacturer. They always have the option to use alternatives. But they even can keep on using the android base and use a different store system. Of course running your own here costs money, that's why they are flocking to Google. But as I said: Talk to your manufacturer.
Uhmm.. no. They still offer their software to the device manufacturers. That's exactly the opposite of packing up and going home.
In your example, the flint is the product.
"Passports are tools of oppression"
Really ?
Yes, that statement is really ironic as one half of Germany remembers very well when NOT giving you a passport was actual opression.
As Banksy is alive and active, he's still in control of the valuation of his works. If he's upset that his art is being sold for millions of dollars, all he has to do is crank out a metric ton more art.
Sounds like something he could indeed have in his pipeline....
Yes. I've been looking for something non-crap but Access like for years.
Like presenting strongly typed tables like worksheets (maybe even with column based formatting) and formulas and then reports on them
I'm sorry and I know that they aren't very popular here, but that's what patents are for.
Afraid of commercializing something and someone reverse-analysing and stealing it? Patent it! It's public knowledge then, but you can sue the crap out of anyone trying to steal it.
as pretty much everyone calls an accumulator a battery.
I mean that's absolutely OK if you define a series as something that is on TV every week.
If you are presented with 5 different ways a story ends, people would want to know how it really ends or which one is correct.
Those "choose your adventure" books always had one real ending (killing the princess and rescue the dragon.. whatever.. there's a reason why they work well with plain vanilla fantasy) and you had to get to that ending.